Criminals pick the wrong McDonalds to rob

[rezznor]

CNN)Two hapless criminals picked the wrong place when they held up a McDonald's in France.

Eleven armed members of an elite paramilitary force happened to be eating inside.
The pair allegedly burst into the Ecole-Valentin branch of the fast-food restaurant in the eastern French city of Besancon on Sunday. They fired a shotgun at the ceiling, yelling at the customers inside to get on the floor, the city's prosecutor Edwige Roux-Morizot told CNN.
One of the robbers then stole about 2000 euros ($2,269) from the registers before the men ran away, she said.
Unfortunately for them, among the 40-odd customers grabbing burgers at the time were 11 members of the GIGN (National Gendarmerie Intervention Group), an elite special operations unit of the national gendarme which specializes in counter-terror and hostage situations.
Nine of them, who were wearing plain clothes but carrying weapons, chased the robbers, said Roux-Morizot.
They caught one when he stumbled on stairs.
But the other robber, armed with the shotgun, kept running. At one point he took aim at the crack special forces officers, said the prosecutor.
Big mistake.
The GIGN officers yelled at him to stop and fired warning shots to deter him, she said. But when he took aim again, they responded with a "neutralization shot" to his abdomen.
The suspects -- both of whom were born in 1991 and were known to police -- were then taken to hospital and charged with armed robbery, Roux-Morizot said.
She said the officers had delayed intervening earlier in the robbery because of the threat posed to the customers. None of the staff or customers were injured in the robbery.
No doubt the robbers are ruing their trip to the Golden Arches that day. But, as they say, we're lovin' it.

ohhh shiitttt.....:oldlol:

[UK2K]

Saw this...

A gun saves the day again.


The GIGN officers yelled at him to stop and fired warning shots to deter him, she said. But when he took aim again, they responded with a "neutralization shot" to his abdomen.

Guess they won't be robbing anyone else anytime soon.

[NumberSix]

Good guys with guns can be useful for stopping criminals? Who could have guessed?

[Jameerthefear]

"Lets start a firefight over $2,000!"
Wow good choice :applause:

[NumberSix]

"Lets start a firefight over $2,000!"
Wow good choice :applause:
Translation: "when criminals demand money, you should have to give it to them. All robberies should be a guaranteed success."

[rufuspaul]

"Lets start a firefight over $2,000!"
Wow good choice :applause:

Typical bleeding heart idiot response. It isn't the money dumbass, it's the fact that people can't go to a ****ing McDonalds without becoming victims of armed criminals. That's a form of terrorism.

A man attempted to abduct a 13 year old girl in broad daylight and was apprehended by an off duty security guard with a concealed carry. Probably not worth the life of an innocent girl though. :rolleyes:

[Jameerthefear]

Translation: "when criminals demand money, you should have to give it to them. All robberies should be a guaranteed success."
You should reread my post. You're a little slower so make it will take a couple more times.

[Jameerthefear]

Typical bleeding heart idiot response. It isn't the money dumbass, it's the fact that people can't go to a ****ing McDonalds without becoming victims of armed criminals. That's a form of terrorism.

A man attempted to abduct a 13 year old girl in broad daylight and was apprehended by an off duty security guard with a concealed carry. Probably not worth the life of an innocent girl though. :rolleyes:
$2,000 = little girl

You got me dude. I've been exposed.

[NumberSix]

$2,000 = little girl

You got me dude. I've been exposed.
$1 > criminal's life

[rufuspaul]

$2,000 = little girl

You got me dude. I've been exposed.


Innocent people forced to the ground, fearing for their lives as armed thugs steal their money=no big deal, just give to them, no problem here

[Jameerthefear]

Innocent people forced to the ground, fearing for their lives as armed thugs steal their money=no big deal, just give to them, no problem here
Innocent people potentially getting shot or hurt in a situation that could have been avoided, no problem there I guess.

I just hope the officers chose an appropriate place to start a firefight. Good no one got hurt, you know McDonalds couldn't afford a loss of $2,000.

[NumberSix]

Innocent people potentially getting shot or hurt in a situation that could have been avoided, no problem there I guess.

I just hope the criminals chose an appropriate place to start a firefight. Good no one got hurt, you know McDonalds couldn't afford a loss of $2,000.
fixed.

[warriorfan]

if they were american cops they would of shot the guy 25 times in the chest and head :roll:

[senelcoolidge]

They should have killed the criminals. There's no need for vermin in this world.

[rezznor]

Saw this...

A gun saves the day again.



Guess they won't be robbing anyone else anytime soon.


I think you forgot the part about them being highly trained police officers. If it was a random red neck with a chl, he probably would have started shooting inside the restaurant with a likelihood of harming civilians....an action that these french officers explicitly chose not take.

[rezznor]

by the way, i'm not anti gun. i have a few and my friends are huge gun enthusiasts. i am, however all for stricter gun laws and background checks.

[rufuspaul]

Innocent people potentially getting shot or hurt in a situation that could have been avoided, no problem there I guess.

I just hope the officers chose an appropriate place to start a firefight. Good no one got hurt, you know McDonalds couldn't afford a loss of $2,000.


Because there should be no deterrent to crime, especially if the victim can afford to lose money. :rolleyes:

[UK2K]

"Lets start a firefight over $2,000!"
Wow good choice :applause:

Had they gotten away, and tried to rob again, and blown someone away with that shotgun in the process, you'd be screaming 'BAN ALL GUNS!'

Anyone willing to rob a McDonalds with a shotgun probably doesn't need to be around anyway, but you knew that.

[DeuceWallaces]

I think you forgot the part about them being highly trained police officers. If it was a random red neck with a chl, he probably would have started shooting inside the restaurant with a likelihood of harming civilians....an action that these french officers explicitly chose not take.

Yeah, no one has a problem if a SWAT team or off duty cop with a conceal permit opens up on a burglar. It's our resident vigilantes we'd prefer not starting firefights in public. If I'm eating at a Five Guys getting robbed I'd much rather (s)he takes the money and leaves than UK2K starting a fire-fight so he can make the front page of Breitbart.

[UK2K]

I think you forgot the part about them being highly trained police officers. If it was a random red neck with a chl, he probably would have started shooting inside the restaurant with a likelihood of harming civilians....an action that these french officers explicitly chose not take.

Based on... what exactly? Your wild theories about what happens during an armed robbery?

Tell me more about rednecks spraying and praying in crowded areas. Make sure you provide evidence too, I want to hear all about the times when rednecks attempted to stop an armed robbery and shot others.

I'll wait.

[NumberSix]

Yeah, no one has a problem if a SWAT team or off duty cop with a conceal permit opens up on a burglar. It's our resident vigilantes we'd prefer not starting firefights in public. If I'm eating at a Five Guys getting robbed I'd much rather (s)he takes the money and leaves than UK2K starting a fire-fight so he can make the front page of Breitbart.
What happens when you realize the gunmen aren't there to rob the place when they start screaming "allahu Akbar"? Will you be hoping that nobody else there has a gun? I'll be hoping that literally EVERYBODY there has one.

[DeuceWallaces]

What happens when you realize the gunmen aren't there to rob the place when they start screaming "allahu Akbar"? Will you be hoping that nobody else there has a gun? I'll be hoping that literally EVERYBODY there has one.

That has literally never happened in the US.

[highwhey]

Saw this...

A gun saves the day again.



Guess they won't be robbing anyone else anytime soon.
i like the sound of that..."neutralization shot". sure wish US cops would train with their weapons so every shot they took wouldn't be fatal :facepalm

[highwhey]

i like how everyone seemingly skipped over the part where these brave men fired warning shots...unheard of in the US. god forbid we let our criminals live.

[TheGreatDeraj]

That has literally never happened in the US.


Less than a year ago actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack


On December 2, 2015, 14 people were killed and 22 were seriously injured in a terrorist attack at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, which consisted of a mass shooting and an attempted bombing.

[DeuceWallaces]

Less than a year ago actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack

:lol That was a mass murder at a workplace; not a suicide bomber in a public place.

[~primetime~]

That has literally never happened in the US.
It happened right here in Dallas...and a civilian with a gun shot him.

[UK2K]

i like the sound of that..."neutralization shot". sure wish US cops would train with their weapons so every shot they took wouldn't be fatal :facepalm
I believe it was fatal.
You aim center mass for a reason. Sometimes they live, sometimes not.

[UK2K]

i like how everyone seemingly skipped over the part where these brave men fired warning shots...unheard of in the US. god forbid we let our criminals live.
Also another ridiculously stupid thing to do...

Your argument is gonna be 'but they're special forces' and my argument will be at that point they were civilians and didn't want to shoot someone. No instruction booklet on the planet will tell you to fire a warning shot first.

Had that shot scared one of the gunmen and he turned and started blasting, or had his round bounced off a metal sign and hit someone in the face (I've seen it happen on the range), he'd be in jail right now.

[~primetime~]

How many innocent lives have been taken by 'rednecks trying to kill criminals but missed their target' ???

I feel like if someone in the US tried to rob a McDonalds and redneck with a gun tried to shoot him and save the day BUT INSTEAD killed a little girl or something, that story would be dominating CNN for a whole month.

[Jameerthefear]

Had they gotten away, and tried to rob again, and blown someone away with that shotgun in the process, you'd be screaming 'BAN ALL GUNS!'

Anyone willing to rob a McDonalds with a shotgun probably doesn't need to be around anyway, but you knew that.
I own guns jackass :oldlol: My dad is literally a retired marine.

[UK2K]

How many innocent lives have been taken by 'rednecks trying to kill criminals but missed their target' ???

I feel like if someone in the US tried to rob a McDonalds and redneck with a gun tried to shoot him and save the day BUT INSTEAD killed a little girl or something, that story would be dominating CNN for a whole month.

It would.

But when a gun saves a life.... not a word. Even the White House study (which I'm sure was wanting different results) agrees:

[QUOTE]But a new report commissioned by the White House titled Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-related Violence suggests what many self defense gun proponents have been saying for years. The report, ordered under one of President Obama

[TheGreatDeraj]

i like the sound of that..."neutralization shot". sure wish US cops would train with their weapons so every shot they took wouldn't be fatal :facepalm

I guess you have never seen any shootout involving cops, because many have notoriously bad accuracy.

Also, the cops in the USA are trained to shoot at center mass to get the highest chance at ending the threat.

Besides that, why in the world would you not shoot to kill?

A criminal is pointing a deadly weapon at you, how do you know he is not going to shoot? If you shoot a "neutralizing shot", how do you know he is not still a danger? He could still pull the trigger or maybe he has a bomb on him, or many other scenarios. Are you willing to take that risk to your life? What happens to your wife, kids, parents, friends etc if you take that risk?

[UK2K]

I own guns jackass :oldlol: My dad is literally a retired marine.

And....? Hillary has lots of guys with guns.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/03/27/california-democrat-and-gun-control-advocate-charged-with-arms-trafficking/#11a9d03e5e20

^This dude was actually SMUGGLING guns yet wanted stricter gun laws.

Are you even old enough to own a gun?

[TheGreatDeraj]

:lol That was a mass murder at a workplace; not a suicide bomber in a public place.

Hate to say this, but either you are clueless or trolling. Even our president who abosultey hates to say Islamic terrorism agrees with the rest of us.




Obama: 'This was an act of terrorism'
(http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/06/politics/obama-oval-office-address-isis-terror/)

Obama, speaking in the symbolic surroundings of the Oval Office, unequivocally told millions of television viewers in prime-time that last week's mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, was a terrorist attack by a couple who had gone down the "dark path of radicalization" and embraced a "perverted" form of Islam.
"This was an act of terrorism designed to kill innocent people," Obama said. "Here's what I want you to know. The threat from terrorism is real, but we will overcome it. We will destroy ISIL and any other organization that tries to harm us."

Also it was an attempted bombing as well.

FBI is now convinced that couple tried to detonate bomb in San Bernardino terror attack (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-fbi-san-bernardino-bombs-20160115-story.html)


The FBI's top investigator in the San Bernardino terrorist attack said Friday that the husband and wife who shot and killed 14 people on Dec. 2 intended to detonate an explosive device inside the room, though the exact timetable of the plot remains unclear.

[DeuceWallaces]

Hate to say this, but either you are clueless or trolling. Even our president who abosultey hates to say Islamic terrorism agrees with the rest of us.

I'm quite familiar with the incident. You just have a reading comprehension problem.

[UK2K]

DW trying to call it workplace violence? :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Levity]

9 dudes chillin inside a mcdonalds, all packing heat. :lol

[UK2K]

i like how everyone seemingly skipped over the part where these brave men fired warning shots...unheard of in the US. god forbid we let our criminals live.

I thought this was really, really stupid... come to find out:

The robbers fired a warning shot, not the off duty police.

Now that makes more sense.

Which leads back to my point that I've never heard anyone, ever, say to fire a warning shot first.

[TheGreatDeraj]

I'm quite familiar with the incident. You just have a reading comprehension problem.

Guess so, please clarify what you are trying to say?

Also, 12 times mass shooting stopped by good guys with guns/ (http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/)

[UK2K]

Guess so, please clarify what you are trying to say?

Also, 12 times mass shooting stopped by good guys with guns/ (http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/)

Ironically, this came out today:

[QUOTE]Detroit Police Chief James Craig says his suggestion last January that law-abiding residents should arm themselves has helped cut crime in his struggling city.

Craig pointed out that crime statistics have dropped overall, but admitted there is no way to know for certain how many crimes were not committed because a potential criminal feared facing an armed citizen.

There have been 37 percent fewer robberies so far in 2014 than the same period in 2013, 22 percent fewer break-ins, and 30 percent fewer carjackings, The Detroit News reports.

Studies have differed on whether armed citizens deter crime, the News reported.

Detroit resident Al Woods told the paper he believes guns in people's homes deter crime. Woods says he is a reformed criminal and now an anti-violence advocate.

"If I was out there now robbing people these days, knowing there are a lot more people with guns, I know I

[Jameerthefear]

And....? Hillary has lots of guys with guns.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/03/27/california-democrat-and-gun-control-advocate-charged-with-arms-trafficking/#11a9d03e5e20

^This dude was actually SMUGGLING guns yet wanted stricter gun laws.

Are you even old enough to own a gun?
Yes.

[TheGreatDeraj]

Ironically, this came out today:



At a time when crime is on the rise everywhere... Go figure.

Makes sense to me. Criminals know that police will not be able to respond to robberies, car jackings and break ins fast enough and many times there is not even an investigation afterwards. The biggest deterrents to robbers, break ins and car jackings are dogs and knowledgeable, well practiced, armed gun owners.

It is not possible for the cops or the government to protect you at all times. Sometimes it is up to you.