According to this board, when Durant wins going 1/2 will he be better than Bron 2/7?

[oarabbus]

This is the kinda shit I see on this board. Do people really believe this?

[NBAGOAT]

unfortunately some do.

[Old Man River]

obviously not, i mean the 1/2 isn't as good as the 2/7, only rings matter and 2>1

[Genaro]

2/7 only matters comparing Lebron to other all time greats. Durant isn't in the conversation yet.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Everything finals related durant did or does is coming from the west. Never compare him with leshortcut

[3ball]

This is the kinda shit I see on this board. Do people really believe this?


No, people don't believe thbat.

But based on historical fact, people KNOW that Kobe/Hakeem/Duncan would do better than 2/4 or 2/7 if they teamed up and made a Big 3, and therefore are better than Lebron.. As it was, they all did better WITHOUT teaming up.

Certainly, if Hakeem teamed up with Drexler and Shawn Kemp, he'd do much better than 2/4, especially considering he beat Shaq and Penny with just Drexler.. :eek:

Similarly, Duncan is 5/9 and Kobe is 5/7, while Lebron is a 2/7 despite colluding - 2/7 is the kind of disappointing win rate we'd expect from someone of Karl Malone's caliber, not a real top 10 player.

[DMAVS41]

Nobody actually believes losing earlier in the playoffs is a good thing.

Here are the problems for Lebron though;

1. Making 7 finals to begin with is incredibly inflated just based off his conference.

2. Since the 09 season...Lebron has had legit chances (some better than others) to win the title. His team has won twice assuming he loses this series.

We can get into EV and all that, but at the end of the day...having 8 title chances in 8 years just when you are starting your peak/prime...and coming away with only 2 titles is not a good look for a player trying to make a case with the best handful of players ever.

Is it fair? In some cases yes and in some cases no.

But all of that is just the results...the cause of at least some of those results have been Lebron's inept shooting and off ball impact.

He is without a doubt one of the best players in NBA history, but that does not mean (unlike Jerry West's BS claim) that he is immune to criticism. He has glaring flaws in his game that not only hurt his overall value, but hurt his teams production as well.

So it's silly to boil his career down to 2/7 or whatever...but it's also silly to pretend like there aren't reasons for that 2/7 as well...beyond his help that is. Lebron is responsible, often in large ways, for his teams losing. Ignoring that just because he's great is the epitome of lazy analysis.

We all agree he's great...the question is how great. And his flaws that show...especially in the finals against elite competition...prevent him, at least at this point, from being mentioned at the top of the all time list imo.

[BlazerRed]

Yes, because if so Dursnt didn't have to collude to win a ring.

[MP.Trey]

Yes, because if so Dursnt didn't have to collude to win a ring.
I'd wait until you see what he does in free agency before saying that. There's already players openly admitting that they're trying to recruit Durant to their team. If Durant leaves, that's collusion by your standards.

Then again, who needs to go anywhere when you got a top 5 player right beside you along with one of the top 3 most talented rosters in the league?

[SyRyanYang]

No because 2>1. But if Durant goes 2/3 or even 2/4 I'd out him ahead of Lebron.

[stalkerforlife]

This is the kinda shit I see on this board. Do people really believe this?

As if Durant wouldn't be going to the finals every season with Bran's teammates and competition?

Winning a title coming out of the west is far more impressive.

Grow up.