View Full Version : What's your thoughts on this Stanford swimmer convicted of rape?
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 01:30 AM
I see this story every time I turn my head. Everyone hates this kid and is pissed that he got 6 months in jail.
She doesn't remember the incident because she was blacked out drunk and passed out.
People hate me for this, but how can we say this was rape? Drunken blacked out people have sex all the time. How do we know the dude wasn't blacked out, too?
America hates this kid and his life may be ruined, but I stand with him.
Nilocon165
06-12-2016, 01:49 AM
I bought a rape whistle and it really came in handy. It really helped to mask the screams.
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 01:50 AM
I bought a rape whistle and it really came in handy. It really helped to mask the screams.
:biggums:
You have fantasies of rape?
Nilocon165
06-12-2016, 01:54 AM
Whenever I have sex, it's a race to see who comes first.
Me or the police.
oarabbus
06-12-2016, 01:57 AM
I see this story every time I turn my head. Everyone hates this kid and is pissed that he got 6 months in jail.
She doesn't remember the incident because she was blacked out drunk and passed out.
People hate me for this, but how can we say this was rape? Drunken blacked out people have sex all the time. How do we know the dude wasn't blacked out, too?
America hates this kid and his life may be ruined, but I stand with him.
You're tripping dude. He was on top of her behind a dumpster violating her while she was fully unconsious. Two Swedish dude biking by had to TACKLE AND DETAIN Turner until the cops arrived. One of the Swedish dudes was having trouble giving a statement and was in tears about what he had witnessed.
Nah.... normally I'd say this campus sexual assault shit has gone too far (plenty of incidents of innocent guys suspended over an accusation) but not this one, not this time. It's not a he-said she-said when two witnesses were there and literally had to rescue this chick... from behind a dumpster.
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 01:57 AM
Whenever I have sex, it's a race to see who comes first.
Me or the police.
:roll:
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 01:58 AM
You're tripping dude. He was on top of her behind a dumpster violating her while she was fully unconsious. Two Swedish dude biking by had to TACKLE AND DETAIN Turner until the cops arrived. One of the Swedish dudes was having trouble giving a statement and was in tears about what he had witnessed.
Nah.... normally I'd say this campus sexual assault shit has gone too far (plenty of incidents of innocent guys suspended over an accusation) but not this one, not this time. It's not a he-said she-said when two witnesses were there and literally had to rescue this chick... from behind a dumpster.
Why would a rapist rape someone in public?
To me, it sounds like drunken sex and maybe she passed out during the act and he was too drunk to realize.
oarabbus
06-12-2016, 02:01 AM
Why would a rapist rape someone in public?
To me, it sounds like drunken sex and maybe she passed out during the act and he was too drunk to realize.
If you aren't going to trust the eyewitness testimony of the only two sober people involved in the incident then I don't know what to tell you.
DeuceWallaces
06-12-2016, 02:11 AM
He deserves more time. Unfortunately, 6 months is still more than most get and he only digitally raped her, which is a lesser offense in California.
oarabbus
06-12-2016, 02:13 AM
He deserves more time. Unfortunately, 6 months is still more than most get and he only digitally raped her, which is a lesser offense in California.
The US judicial system, where rape gets you 6 months and selling small quantities of cocaine can get you 6 years :applause:
DeuceWallaces
06-12-2016, 02:15 AM
The US judicial system, where rape gets you 6 months and selling small quantities of cocaine can get you 6 years :applause:
Well, at least the tides are changing on both fronts.
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 02:18 AM
My understanding is he only fingered her tho it's still being classified as rape because she was unconscious and therefore unable to consent.
Six months and expulsion from school is (more than) enough for a drunk college kid who went to hookup with a drunk college chick and continued fingering her after she passed out. This is the kind of things that happen when you put a bunch of horny coeds in a party environment and give them alcohol. This wasnt the least bit malicious. Guys get horny af when theyre drunk. If this situation - which is unfortunate, clearly - is such a nightmare for girls, dont get blackout wasted at frat parties. Giving a young male six months in JAIL because he was too drunk to stop in the middle of a hookup when the chick passed out is excessive. He was wasted, she was wasted, he was fingering her and she passed out, he kept going. And some swedish guy cried over this??? Smh :facepalm
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 02:21 AM
He deserves more time. Unfortunately, 6 months is still more than most get and he only digitally raped her, which is a lesser offense in California.
Holy christ you are a wanabe white knight fakkit.
Do you realize how obvious it is that youre trying to compensate for your bottom-tier status on the masculinity totem pole by posturing as a white-knight, feminist, sensitivty crusader? You are ****ing homo dude. Youre the biggest geek in the world.
DeuceWallaces
06-12-2016, 02:27 AM
Holy christ you are a wanabe white knight fakkit.
Do you realize how obvious it is that youre trying to compensate for your bottom-tier status on the masculinity totem pole by posturing as a white-knight, feminist, sensitivty crusader? You are ****ing homo dude. Youre the biggest geek in the world.
So...you're for rape?
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 02:48 AM
My understanding is he only fingered her tho it's still being classified as rape because she was unconscious and therefore unable to consent.
Six months and expulsion from school is (more than) enough for a drunk college kid who went to hookup with a drunk college chick and continued fingering her after she passed out. This is the kind of things that happen when you put a bunch of horny coeds in a party environment and give them alcohol. This wasnt the least bit malicious. Guys get horny af when theyre drunk. If this situation - which is unfortunate, clearly - is such a nightmare for girls, dont get blackout wasted at frat parties. Giving a young male six months in JAIL because he was too drunk to stop in the middle of a hookup when the chick passed out is excessive. He was wasted, she was wasted, he was fingering her and she passed out, he kept going. And some swedish guy cried over this??? Smh :facepalm
:applause:
Jameerthefear
06-12-2016, 02:49 AM
only on ish would people defend this
gigantes
06-12-2016, 02:50 AM
I see this story every time I turn my head. Everyone hates this kid and is pissed that he got 6 months in jail.
She doesn't remember the incident because she was blacked out drunk and passed out.
People hate me for this, but how can we say this was rape? Drunken blacked out people have sex all the time. How do we know the dude wasn't blacked out, too?
America hates this kid and his life may be ruined, but I stand with him.
apparently he has a long history of this shit, as is now coming to light.
"stalkerforlife"... you chose your username quite sincerely, didn't you? :lol
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 02:51 AM
So...you're for rape?
Im for appropriate punishment based on context.
This would have been roughly the appropriate punishment if the act was genital intercourse. I didnt know all that much about this thing previously but I heard people saying the punishment was too light and I was like meh, doesnt seem like it. Then I found out today this 'rape' was a drunk guy fingering a chick who passed out drunk after they met at a frat party? And I was like :wtf:
And you want this guy doing more than SIX MONTHS IN JAIL?
This reaction is simply more nu-age campus culture hysteria of freaking out over everything white males do. There is nothing reasonable, logical about wanting a longer sentence for this guy. But wadda ya know, deuce jenner the human try hard is firmly on the bandwagon. All the sjw's in the news crying about the sentence, so he is too. "Omg! Six months in jail, that's it! This 20 year old drunk kid was fingering this wasted chick when she passed out!!! Where is the justice?? He should be behind bars for years! OH. MY. GOD. Someone hold me. But preferably not a white cisgender, only a racially ambiguous gender queer. I need my safe space and a pacifier NOW!"
You are the most effeminate loser in humanity's history. Your whole motto is since you cant act like a male, it's not natural to you, you try to play up how well you can act like a female. And you think this gives you some kind of cred. Which I guess it does with fat blue haired whales with short bangs and septum nose piercings. I seriously guarantee you were a virgin until you finally met your current chick at like 35 years old. It's painfully clear how unappealing you are to normal women.
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 02:52 AM
apparently he has a long history of this shit, as is now coming to light.
"stalkerforlife"... you chose your username quite sincerely, didn't you? :lol
This is a joke name with a story.
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 02:54 AM
Im for appropriate punishment based on context.
This would have been roughly the appropriate punishment if the act was genital intercourse. I didnt know all that much about this thing previously but I heard people saying the punishment was too light and I was like meh, doesnt seem like it. Then I found out today this 'rape' was a drunk guy fingering a chick who passed out drunk after they met at a frat party?
And you want this guy doing more than SIX MONTHS IN JAIL?
This reaction is simply more nu-age campus culture hysteria of freaking out over everything white males do. There is nothing reasonable, logical about wanting a longer sentence for this guy. But wadda ya know, deuce jenner the human try hard is firmly on the bandwagon. All the sjw's in the news crying about the sentence, so he is too. "Omg! Six months in jail, that's it! This 20 year old drunk kid was fingering this wasted chick when she passed out!!! Where is the justice?? He should be behind bars for years! OH. MY. GOD. Someone hold me. But preferably not a white cisgender, only a racially ambiguous gender queer. I need my safe space and a pacifier NOW!"
You are the most effeminate loser in humanity's history. Your whole motto is since you cant act like a male, it's not natural to you, you try to play up how well you can act like a female. And you think this gives you some kind of cred. Which I guess it does with fat blue haired whales with short bangs and septum nose piercings. I seriously guarantee you were a virgin until you finally met your current chick at like 35 years old. It's painfully clear how unappealing you are to normal women.
Not just six months in jail...he's also now a registered sex offender, America hates him, and he's banned from swimming for life in a professional manner. And of course i'm sure Stanford booted him out.
All over drunken sex in open public...as if a real rapist would put himself in a position to be so easily caught.
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 03:04 AM
Not just six months in jail...he's also now a registered sex offender, America hates him, and he's banned from swimming for life in a professional manner. And of course i'm sure Stanford booted him out.
All over drunken sex in open public...as if a real rapist would put himself in a position to be so easily caught.
Yup. And the left are the ones always saying shit like "prison isnt supposed to be punishment, it's supposed to be rehabilitation."
The guy's life is ruined. He'll do six months in the slammer, be humiliated ever more, and obviously never go to another frat party again. That isnt enough? Thse folks just want blood. They want a witch to burn. Theyre caught up in the 'anti-white-male' mob hysteria zeitgeist and looking for trophy scalps.
The fact that peuce wallace is a 36 year old male and is STILL trying to awkwardly convince everyone he's hip with all the campus cuck millenial white knight act is the saddest, most cringeworthy thing Ive seen. This guy wrote the book on being pathetic. He is the poster child of cringe. He is the anti-male.
DeuceWallaces
06-12-2016, 03:05 AM
Not just six months in jail...he's also now a registered sex offender, America hates him, and he's banned from swimming for life in a professional manner. And of course i'm sure Stanford booted him out.
All over drunken sex in open public...as if a real rapist would put himself in a position to be so easily caught.
He is a real rapist. Multiple eye-witnesses identified him in a court of law. So he will have to register as a sex offender because he is a sex offender.
DeuceWallaces
06-12-2016, 03:06 AM
Im for appropriate punishment based on context.
This would have been roughly the appropriate punishment if the act was genital intercourse. I didnt know all that much about this thing previously but I heard people saying the punishment was too light and I was like meh, doesnt seem like it. Then I found out today this 'rape' was a drunk guy fingering a chick who passed out drunk after they met at a frat party? And I was like :wtf:
And you want this guy doing more than SIX MONTHS IN JAIL?
This reaction is simply more nu-age campus culture hysteria of freaking out over everything white males do. There is nothing reasonable, logical about wanting a longer sentence for this guy. But wadda ya know, deuce jenner the human try hard is firmly on the bandwagon. All the sjw's in the news crying about the sentence, so he is too. "Omg! Six months in jail, that's it! This 20 year old drunk kid was fingering this wasted chick when she passed out!!! Where is the justice?? He should be behind bars for years! OH. MY. GOD. Someone hold me. But preferably not a white cisgender, only a racially ambiguous gender queer. I need my safe space and a pacifier NOW!"
You are the most effeminate loser in humanity's history. Your whole motto is since you cant act like a male, it's not natural to you, you try to play up how well you can act like a female. And you think this gives you some kind of cred. Which I guess it does with fat blue haired whales with short bangs and septum nose piercings. I seriously guarantee you were a virgin until you finally met your current chick at like 35 years old. It's painfully clear how unappealing you are to normal women.
Just so I'm clear on your bullshit thesis, forcible sexual assault with penetration (traditional rape) is worth 6 months in jail?
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 03:13 AM
Just so I'm clear on your bullshit thesis, forcible sexual assault with penetration (traditional rape) is worth 6 months in jail?
Didnt I just tell you it depends hugely on context?
Two college coeds with no criminal records who were both drunk, and both began to hookup, and the chick passes out and the guy continues? Listen, I realize youve never been in a random hookup situation. And dont you even pretend for a SECOND that you have. But when youre shitfaced and partying around girls your hormones are raging. And 20 year olds are not known for their decision making and discretion in the first place. The guy did something stupid which was not intended to hurt anyone, it was simply an inebriated lack of self control. For a college kid with no record and his future ahead of him, hell no I wouldnt give him more than six months.
Would you? And if so, man up and articulate WHY.
DeuceWallaces
06-12-2016, 03:18 AM
Didnt I just tell you it depends hugely on context?
Two college coeds with no criminal records who were both drunk, and both began to hookup, and the chick passes out and the guy continues? Listen, I realize youve never been in a random hookup situation. And dont you even pretend for a SECOND that you have. But when youre shitfaced and partying around girls your hormones are raging. And 20 year olds are not known for their decision making and discretion in the first place. The guy did something stupid which was not intended to hurt anyone, it was simply an inebriated lack of self control. For a college kid with no record and his future ahead of him, hell no I wouldnt give him more than six months.
Would you? And if so, man up and articulate WHY.
Ah, so you're not familiar with the case or the definition of rape. That makes more sense.
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 03:22 AM
I cant come up with anything intelligent to say as usual, so Ill just back my way out with some cliche condescension and hope nobody noticed.
:rolleyes:
tomtucker
06-12-2016, 03:48 AM
You're tripping dude. He was on top of her behind a dumpster violating her while she was fully unconsious. Two Swedish dude biking by had to TACKLE AND DETAIN Turner until the cops arrived. One of the Swedish dudes was having trouble giving a statement and was in tears about what he had witnessed.
Nah.... normally I'd say this campus sexual assault shit has gone too far (plenty of incidents of innocent guys suspended over an accusation) but not this one, not this time. It's not a he-said she-said when two witnesses were there and literally had to rescue this chick... from behind a dumpster.
does not count......swedes are pusssys with no balls or backbone.........feminists and muslim lovers the lot of them
oarabbus
06-12-2016, 03:50 AM
does not count......swedes are pusssys with no balls or backbone.........feminists and muslim lovers the lot of them
That may be, but they were the only sober ones involved in the incident and provided eyewitness testimony.
~primetime~
06-12-2016, 03:59 AM
If just like to say...
Who the fck rapes a girl with their fingers!? What a weird fck, he probably sniffs panties that he steals too.
"Oh she's passed out, can't wait to get my fingers in her..." :biggums:
Just weird
gigantes
06-12-2016, 01:15 PM
Not just six months in jail...he's also now a registered sex offender, America hates him, and he's banned from swimming for life in a professional manner. And of course i'm sure Stanford booted him out.
All over drunken sex in open public...as if a real rapist would put himself in a position to be so easily caught.
i do agree that public justice often doesn't seem to consider all the consequences and ramifications. In his case, those are five pretty f-cking huge negative consequences that he's going to have to live with for life.
most social justice warriors i've known don't really have an 'off' switch. it's more like a 'keep fighting for the cause and never compromise' mindset. even when you're more or less on board with their cause, if you're not 100% with them they can get so easily offended. on the one hand i've learned a lot from such people, but OTOH i've also learned that they can be a massive PITA.
HylianNightmare
06-12-2016, 06:01 PM
Kill him
longtime lurker
06-12-2016, 06:34 PM
Didnt I just tell you it depends hugely on context?
Two college coeds with no criminal records who were both drunk, and both began to hookup, and the chick passes out and the guy continues? Listen, I realize youve never been in a random hookup situation. And dont you even pretend for a SECOND that you have. But when youre shitfaced and partying around girls your hormones are raging. And 20 year olds are not known for their decision making and discretion in the first place. The guy did something stupid which was not intended to hurt anyone, it was simply an inebriated lack of self control. For a college kid with no record and his future ahead of him, hell no I wouldnt give him more than six months.
Would you? And if so, man up and articulate WHY.
She was sexually assaulted without her consent. Doesn't matter if he ****ed her or used his fingers. Why am I not surprised you're excusing the actions of a rapist.
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 06:35 PM
She was sexually assaulted without her consent. Doesn't matter if he ****ed her or used his fingers. Why am I not surprised you're excusing the actions of a rapist.
You sound triggered. Call a hotline.
stalkerforlife
06-12-2016, 06:41 PM
She was sexually assaulted without her consent. Doesn't matter if he ****ed her or used his fingers. Why am I not surprised you're excusing the actions of a rapist.
How the hell do you know something that not even she knows?
She could've consented and then passed out.
longtime lurker
06-12-2016, 06:41 PM
You sound triggered. Call a hotline.
You're clueless about the definition of rape.
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 06:54 PM
You're clueless about the definition of rape.
Bro. Youre triggered right now and I dont want to push you any farther toward the ledge. Just relax, and take it easy. There are people available whom you can reach out to. There are safe spaces where cisgender microaggressions cannot harm you. But just climb on down for now and let's talk. I can look up some numbers for you. I want this to be resolved peacefully.
ISH, please tweet your support for longtime lurker with the hashtag #We'veAllBeenThere.
Together, let's help those whove been triggered.
KyrieTheFuture
06-12-2016, 09:06 PM
Damn. This thread is the most disgusted I've been with this site in a long ****ing time.
bdreason
06-12-2016, 09:16 PM
Some twisted people on this forum. I hope you people don't actually believe some of the shit you type. This guy literally tried to run away when he got caught. He knew exactly what he was doing, which was raping an unconscious girl.
Akrazotile
06-12-2016, 09:31 PM
Some twisted people on this forum. I hope you people don't actually believe some of the shit you type. This guy literally tried to run away when he got caught. He knew exactly what he was doing, which was raping an unconscious girl.
Lookin through the thread, I cant find anybody who said what he did was right, acceptable, or unworthy of punishment.
Just out of curiosity, how badly does his life need to be ruined to satisfy you personally?
bdreason
06-12-2016, 09:41 PM
Lookin through the thread, I cant find anybody who said what he did was right, acceptable, or unworthy of punishment.
Just out of curiosity, how badly does his life need to be ruined to satisfy you personally?
I think a 2 year sentence, which means he would probably actually serve 1 year, makes more sense. Ironically, a more appropriate sentence actually would have made his life easier moving forward. Now, since he's only going to serve 3 months, people will forever treat him as the kid who got away with rape. I think the judge actually did him a disservice with the lenient sentencing.
Brunch@Five
06-13-2016, 01:00 PM
what I think is most difficult about the situation is that persumably the initiatial hook-up was consensual (if you don't agree with the term, use 'totally within bounds of regular social interaction at frat parties) and BOTH were drunk and very far from being able to make reasonable judgements towards their actions.
Which is why agree with a light sentence. The guy was not fully capable of contracting guilt considering all circumstances.
The part where "rape culture" obviously and rightfully comes into play is the fact that he felt it was appropriate to continue sexual (inter)action even with her passing out. It his highly implausible that he didn't notice and if his mind had functioned correctly and with decency he should have stopped right there and taken care of her.
ShawkFactory
06-13-2016, 01:17 PM
what I think is most difficult about the situation is that persumably the initiatial hook-up was consensual (if you don't agree with the term, use 'totally within bounds of regular social interaction at frat parties) and BOTH were drunk and very far from being able to make reasonable judgements towards their actions.
Which is why agree with a light sentence. The guy was not fully capable of contracting guilt considering all circumstances.
The part where "rape culture" obviously and rightfully comes into play is the fact that he felt it was appropriate to continue sexual (inter)action even with her passing out. It his highly implausible that he didn't notice and if his mind had functioned correctly and with decency he should have stopped right there and taken care of her.
The "rape culture" is the real issue.
They need to make an example of this kid to show the thousands of other frat boys who do stuff like this (And worse) every weekend that it's not okay.
Titanball4
06-13-2016, 01:28 PM
Lookin through the thread, I cant find anybody who said what he did was right, acceptable, or unworthy of punishment.
Just out of curiosity, how badly does his life need to be ruined to satisfy you personally?
Time doesn't matter I guess. But maybe if in jail he gets fingered in the ass by another inmate would sound kinda satisfying. I guess I'm ****ed in the head...
Akrazotile
06-13-2016, 01:32 PM
The "rape culture" is the real issue.
They need to make an example of this kid to show the thousands of other frat boys who do stuff like this (And worse) every weekend that it's not okay.
This is purely idealistic thinking. People - men AND women - when theyre shitfaced drunk simply do not think about consequences like these. Their hormones are charged up, their awareness and judgement are low... Youre simply not going to be able to prevent drunk hookups.
The only way to prevent things like this from happening is to not drink at parties. Obv youre not gonna be able to prevent everyone from drinking/partying, so it's up to each person to decide if it's worth the risk. Sex is a man's most basic instinct, especially at that age. If you are going to a party with lots of inebriated men, and willfully choose to lower your own inhibitions with alcohol... Of course you bear SOME responsibility! You went to a party full of drunk 20 year old men, and voluntarily got hammered. But I know, women have a high place on the liberal flow chart of sensitivty, and that's why everyone is afraid to point out that both people share blame in this. Someone else might come along real indignant-like and say "No! It's only the guy!" and then all of a sudden youre the one looking like a jerk, and youre insecure about other people judging you so you just go with the safe general consensus response. "The guy's a monster!!!! Look what he did to that innocent little lamb!!!! Lock him up and Throw. Away. The KEY."
I just dont see it like all that. But to each their own.
Brunch@Five
06-13-2016, 01:42 PM
It most certainly is ver stupid to not expect that something could be happening against what you later postulate as your "will" or "consent" when you're taking drugs to the degree that you're unable to make reasonable judgements or are even passing out.
It doesn't remove responsibility from the perpetrator, but this is clearly different from using "the girl had a short skirt" as an excuse.
When people are drunk, they do stupid and wrong stuff.
Akrazotile
06-13-2016, 01:55 PM
It most certainly is ver stupid to not expect that something could be happening against what you later postulate as your "will" or "consent" when you're taking drugs to the degree that you're unable to make reasonable judgements or are even passing out.
It doesn't remove responsibility from the perpetrator, but this is clearly different from using "the girl had a short skirt" as an excuse.
When people are drunk, they do stupid and wrong stuff.
Yup.
People acting like this guy jumped out the bushes in broad day light and dragged some unsuspecting woman into seclusion to have his way with her. His action was obviously stupid and unacceptable, but the overreactions also indicate some people with logical thinking disconnects.
Overdrive
06-13-2016, 04:50 PM
what I think is most difficult about the situation is that persumably the initiatial hook-up was consensual (if you don't agree with the term, use 'totally within bounds of regular social interaction at frat parties) and BOTH were drunk and very far from being able to make reasonable judgements towards their actions.
Which is why agree with a light sentence. The guy was not fully capable of contracting guilt considering all circumstances.
The part where "rape culture" obviously and rightfully comes into play is the fact that he felt it was appropriate to continue sexual (inter)action even with her passing out. It his highly implausible that he didn't notice and if his mind had functioned correctly and with decency he should have stopped right there and taken care of her.
Was there real conscent or did the simply start making out? I mean why would a girl let herself finger**** behind a trashpin? Weirder things happened, though.
The story made the news here aswell, because the judge gave him a light sentence since a man of his status might be targeted in prison - according to the report.
dkmwise
06-13-2016, 09:50 PM
Was there real conscent or did the simply start making out? I mean why would a girl let herself finger**** behind a trashpin? Weirder things happened, though.
The story made the news here aswell, because the judge gave him a light sentence since a man of his status might be targeted in prison - according to the report.
I think that's the most F'd up part of the story and why it originally became big news. If the judge had just sentenced him light and said the crime wasn't as severe as others then it's just another case. But the judge made it out like the sentence was less about any details on the crime and more about how he feels toward the defendant. Judge is the one who made a mess out of this.
KNOW1EDGE
06-14-2016, 12:59 AM
Stalker, don't be a fuhcking retard.
Dude raped an unconcious girl behind a dumpster. He stuck foreign objects inside her ******. 2 men walking by saw it happening, and chased down rape-boy when he fled the scene.
You need to seriously check yourself right now
Bosnian Sajo
06-14-2016, 02:08 AM
They give minorities 15-25 years for this kind of stuff, that little shit got a slap on the wrist because he is a white boy going to Stanford on daddy's check.
Bosnian Sajo
06-14-2016, 02:21 AM
It most certainly is ver stupid to not expect that something could be happening against what you later postulate as your "will" or "consent" when you're taking drugs to the degree that you're unable to make reasonable judgements or are even passing out.
It doesn't remove responsibility from the perpetrator, but this is clearly different from using "the girl had a short skirt" as an excuse.
When people are drunk, they do stupid and wrong stuff.
Wtf are you arguing, that doesn't excuse his actions. She passed out, even if she was down to **** the entire night, she wasn't conscious at that point and time. She didn't have a say in the matter, he was fingering her while she was out of it. Idc if she is tripping on acid and a molly, she is asleep.
What is the matter with you people? Imagine waking up from a night of drinking only to find out someone had sex with you while you were asleep (what it was leading to). Imagine some nasty ass, drugged up bitch playing with your dick and ****ing you while you asleep outside. It's not about being a white knight, ain't nothing white knight about this shit, it's common sense. You have a yes or a no, he didn't give her a chance, she wasn't conscious.
"When people are drunk, they do stupid and wrong stuff"
You can't seriously be using that as a justification for this, can you? When you compare this sentence to others, it's way too short. And frankly, if you really have that little self control to the point where you are piss drunk fingering and about to have sex with a girl that is UNCONSCIOUS AND LIMP, behind a dumpster? You need to be locked up for a while, **** that.
BigBoss
06-14-2016, 02:23 AM
I don't give a shit to be honest.
Brunch@Five
06-14-2016, 02:47 AM
Wtf are you arguing, that doesn't excuse his actions. She passed out, even if she was down to **** the entire night, she wasn't conscious at that point and time. She didn't have a say in the matter, he was fingering her while she was out of it. Idc if she is tripping on acid and a molly, she is asleep.
What is the matter with you people? Imagine waking up from a night of drinking only to find out someone had sex with you while you were asleep (what it was leading to). Imagine some nasty ass, drugged up bitch playing with your dick and ****ing you while you asleep outside. It's not about being a white knight, ain't nothing white knight about this shit, it's common sense. You have a yes or a no, he didn't give her a chance, she wasn't conscious.
"When people are drunk, they do stupid and wrong stuff"
You can't seriously be using that as a justification for this, can you? When you compare this sentence to others, it's way too short. And frankly, if you really have that little self control to the point where you are piss drunk fingering and about to have sex with a girl that is UNCONSCIOUS AND LIMP, behind a dumpster? You need to be locked up for a while, **** that.
He was rightfully convicted of attempted rape. There is no doubt that engaging in sexual activities with an unconscious person is unacceptable and criminal, even if it was your girlfriend/wife.
That said, I'm arguing about how much guilt he was able to contract by his actions. At (frat) parties in college, kissing/sex is an expected and at times even intended result of social interaction. It is plausible that Brock was assuming consent in this case (somewhat influenced by "rape culture", if you will)
It is also plausible that the woman would have regretted her Actions even if she had not passed out and not engaged in sexual activities with the guy. She was too drunk to consider her actions at the time and unable to give OR refuse consent.
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