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BallsOut
06-12-2016, 04:51 PM
I guess this should have been a flagrant 1 too

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oYE2tAcbn9w/maxresdefault.jpg

http://en.francais-express.com/upload/images/real/2016/06/03/andre-iguodala-matthew-dellavedova__617926_.jpg

Delladova has a history of making dirty plays and was assessed just a common foul for that Groin hit while Green gets a flagrant 1 foul. The fact that the NBA is calling the Delladova Groin hit and Green's differently definitely damages the integrity of the game. Seems like they're doing their best to ensure this finals series extends to 7 games to help Lebron and the Cavs.

scm5
06-12-2016, 04:56 PM
Victory will be so much sweeter that the Warriors will win despite the obvious favoritism of the NBA.

Rake2204
06-12-2016, 05:09 PM
I thought Dellavedova could have easily received a flagrant on that play. However, he at least has a semi-convincing looking alibi. Freeze frames usually only tell the story one wishes to convey but in real time, it did kind of look like a swing at the rock and a miss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_dMUgt-Pxc

That said, even if he meant to do it, the fact that it even vaguely looks like a happenstance basketball play (with the story being he was trying to strip the ball and/or wrap Iguodala up to cease an advantage) was likely enough to create doubt as to whether the play was reckless and unnecessary or whether it was an attempted strip that went awry.

In Green's case, there's no real explaining his arm to the groin. Even his kick had a better case for being circumstantial (he's been proven to be a leg kicker when jumping or flailing).

But with James, he wasn't trying to brace himself when falling, wasn't boxing out, wasn't reaching for a steal. He reached out and looked to make contact with James. It was relatively harmless (easy for me to say) and maybe he didn't mean to target the groin, but that's what happened and there's not much room for him to hide behind it being a false narrative of it being basketball play.

ILLsmak
06-12-2016, 05:15 PM
I thought Dellavedova could have easily received a flagrant on that play. However, he at least has a semi-convincing looking alibi. Freeze frames usually only tell the story one wishes to convey but in real time, it did kind of look like a swing at the rock and a miss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_dMUgt-Pxc

That said, even if he meant to do it, the fact that it even vaguely looks like a happenstance basketball play (with the story being he was trying to strip the ball and/or wrap Iguodala up to cease an advantage) was likely enough to create doubt as to whether the play was reckless and unnecessary or whether it was an attempted strip that went awry.




With his fist? Not convinced.

What's with this nut punch culture in the NBA?

-Smak

tpols
06-12-2016, 05:17 PM
I thought Dellavedova could have easily received a flagrant on that play. However, he at least has a semi-convincing looking alibi.
yea, he does, but it's too much of a look away. You can tell he's purposely looking away to embellish the situation.

BallsOut
06-12-2016, 07:35 PM
I thought Dellavedova could have easily received a flagrant on that play. However, he at least has a semi-convincing looking alibi. Freeze frames usually only tell the story one wishes to convey but in real time, it did kind of look like a swing at the rock and a miss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_dMUgt-Pxc

That said, even if he meant to do it, the fact that it even vaguely looks like a happenstance basketball play (with the story being he was trying to strip the ball and/or wrap Iguodala up to cease an advantage) was likely enough to create doubt as to whether the play was reckless and unnecessary or whether it was an attempted strip that went awry.

In Green's case, there's no real explaining his arm to the groin. Even his kick had a better case for being circumstantial (he's been proven to be a leg kicker when jumping or flailing).

But with James, he wasn't trying to brace himself when falling, wasn't boxing out, wasn't reaching for a steal. He reached out and looked to make contact with James. It was relatively harmless (easy for me to say) and maybe he didn't mean to target the groin, but that's what happened and there's not much room for him to hide behind it being a false narrative of it being basketball play.

We're not talking about what couldn't happened. We're talking about what did. The end result was Matthew Delladova getting a common foul and Draymond Green getting a flagrant foul. Why is it not the same result?

Sarcastic
06-12-2016, 07:39 PM
Dellavadova can use the excuse that Green used when he kicked Adams in the nuts: he was in the act of making a basketball play and was swinging for the basketball to knock it loose.

There is no basketball play in what Green did with Lebron.