Lebron 17 free throws in 4 games

[moongaze]

This is a guy that takes it to the hoop a lot. For him to only average 4 free throws a game is mind boggling. And people think this guy gets superstar calls? Lol what are you guys smoking. Golden state fouls on every drive.

[sd3035]

This is a guy that takes it to the hoop a lot. For him to only average 4 free throws a game is mind boggling. And people think this guy gets superstar calls? Lol what are you guys smoking. Golden state fouls on every drive.

pretty hard to foul a guy when you've already been shoved out of the play

[AirFederer]

pretty hard to foul a guy when you've already been shoved out of the play
:roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

[moongaze]

pretty hard to foul a guy when you've already been shoved out of the play

Typical retard response. If he's shoving guys out the way he should be scoring easily at the rim with little resistance, right? Is that what's been happening this series or has it more been highly contested drives? Pick one, retard

[IllegalD]

Typical retard response. If he's shoving guys out the way he should be scoring easily at the rim with little resistance, right? Is that what's been happening this series or has it more been highly contested drives? Pick one, retard


Uhhhh. NO.

If he's shoving guys out of the way then it should be called an offensive foul. The refs are actually doing LeBron a favor (and have been doing it all his career) by not calling all those charging fouls he commits every time he drives.

I'm sure as a LeBron Stanley that's difficult to understand since you don't know what real basketball looks like.

:lebronamazed: :lebroncry:

[warriorfan]

pretty hard to foul a guy when you've already been shoved out of the play

daymn

brutal

[sd3035]

Typical retard response. If he's shoving guys out the way he should be scoring easily at the rim with little resistance, right? Is that what's been happening this series or has it more been highly contested drives? Pick one, retard

no, because he's not very skilled

There's also a thing called help defense. Learn about the game retard

[Fudge]

Golden State Refs.

[moongaze]

Uhhhh. NO.

If he's shoving guys out of the way then it should be called an offensive foul. The refs are actually doing LeBron a favor (and have been doing it all his career) by not calling all those charging fouls he commits every time he drives.

I'm sure as a LeBron Stanley that's difficult to understand since you don't know what real basketball looks like.

:lebronamazed: :lebroncry:

Answer this. Shoving guys out the way should give him easy opportunities at the rim. Has he been getting easy drives to the hoop all series? Has he been shooting a high percentage all series due to easy drives ? No, he's been getting hacked by Green and everyone else and has had a tough time driving.

[moongaze]

no, because he's not very skilled

There's also a thing called help defense. Learn about the game retard

Lol he's not very skilled? Retard he's one of the best finishers in the game. 6'8 250+ with amazing speed and agility. He's skilled enough to convert on drives you claim are aided by shoving opponents. Also what does help defense have to do with anything? You just claimed he shoves people out the way that's why he doesn't get foul calls. By your logic, the help defense would have to be getting shoved also to explain the lack of foul calls on his drives.

[TommyGriffin]

Answer this. Shoving guys out the way should give him easy opportunities at the rim. Has he been getting easy drives to the hoop all series? Has he been shooting a high percentage all series due to easy drives ? No, he's been getting hacked by Green and everyone else and has had a tough time driving.
Getting to the rim will usually get you more foul calls, if you have offensive moves. LeBron does not. He pushes his way to the paint and then goes for an obvious contested layup. He has not been fooling anyone with his basic and predictable play.

[sd3035]

Lol he's not very skilled? Retard he's one of the best finishers in the game. 6'8 250+ with amazing speed and agility. He's skilled enough to convert on drives you claim are aided by shoving opponents. Also what does help defense have to do with anything? You just claimed he shoves people out the way that's why he doesn't get foul calls. By your logic, the help defense would have to be getting shoved also to explain the lack of foul calls on his drives.

You just said he was having trouble. Make up your mind you flip flopping beta bitch

[TommyGriffin]

Lol he's not very skilled? Retard he's one of the best finishers in the game. 6'8 250+ with amazing speed and agility. He's skilled enough to convert on drives you claim are aided by shoving opponents. Also what does help defense have to do with anything? You just claimed he shoves people out the way that's why he doesn't get foul calls. By your logic, the help defense would have to be getting shoved also to explain the lack of foul calls on his drives.
LeBron does not have amazing speed and agility. When was the last time you have seen him take someone off the dribble without using a pick?

[moongaze]

Getting to the rim will usually get you more foul calls, if you have offensive moves. LeBron does not. He pushes his way to the paint and then goes for an obvious contested layup. He has not been fooling anyone with his basic and predictable play.

That would make sense if he lacked the speed, agility, height and explosiveness of the average player. A guy his size and power is able to bulky and overpower guys on drives. He's getting stopped by guys that lack his physical attributes due to getting hacked on every drive.

[CelticBaller]

That would make sense if he lacked the speed, agility, height and explosiveness of the average player. A guy his size and power is able to bulky and overpower guys on drives. He's getting stopped by guys that lack his physical attributes due to getting hacked on every drive.
This is 2016, he does not have those attributes anymore to finish all the time. Maybe in couple of plays but not all the time

[moongaze]

You just said he was having trouble. Make up your mind you flip flopping beta bitch

Lol how did I flip flop idiot? Are you high or do you not posses the intelligence to follow a sequence of replies?

[TommyGriffin]

That would make sense if he lacked the speed, agility, height and explosiveness of the average player. A guy his size and power is able to bulky and overpower guys on drives. He's getting stopped by guys that lack his physical attributes due to getting hacked on every drive.
Why do you keep bringing up how big and fast and strong LeBron is? That isn't what we are talking about. He has no offensive moves. He has nothing to fake out the opponent besides a half assed pump fake. He isn't fast enough to beat anyone off the dribble. LeBron will use a pick and then slam into a defender as he bulldozes deep in the paint. Then he pauses for a few seconds and lets everyone collapse on him, and then goes up for a highly contested point blank shot and misses. This is not because of fouls. This is because LeBron has a virtually non existent offensive repertoire that he got away with for so many years because of his next level athleticism. Now that that his athleticism has faded we are left with some very ugly basketball. Fouls have nothing to do with it.

[moongaze]

This is 2016, he does not have those attributes anymore to finish all the time. Maybe in couple of plays but not all the time

Lol really? That play where he ripped Curry's pass,maintained his dribble and then went up for the alley oop in game 3 is as athletic as anyone in the league. He still possesses more athletic bility than probably anyone in this league. Him only getting 4 free throws a game especially when golden state has been playing drives physical is bs

[tpols]

bron is too predictable. Iggy and Barnes are big enough to not get bullied, plus have great hands for deflections (Green as well if he was allowed to play). bran's been forcing it way too much, and he's pretty one dimensional to guard on defense if his jumper isn't falling. There's your answer.

[Straight_Ballin]

Typical retard response. If he's shoving guys out the way he should be scoring easily at the rim with little resistance, right? Is that what's been happening this series or has it more been highly contested drives? Pick one, retard

Were you born a retard or did your parents just drop you on your head as a kid? Learn to understand that he shoves the defender out of the way with his off hand but as he brings both hands to the ball to protect after the final dribble is where the resistance is at with the help defense. If he wasn't such a bitch he would be shooting from the outside to compensate for it but he can't shoot from the outside for shit and is predictable as hell. Back to the drawing board you go to think up another excuse to justify his failure....:lol

[tpols]

Why do you keep bringing up how big and fast and strong LeBron is? That isn't what we are talking about. He has no offensive moves. He has nothing to fake out the opponent besides a half assed pump fake. He isn't fast enough to beat anyone off the dribble. LeBron will use a pick and then slam into a defender as he bulldozes deep in the paint. Then he pauses for a few seconds and lets everyone collapse on him, and then goes up for a highly contested point blank shot and misses. This is not because of fouls. This is because LeBron has a virtually non existent offensive repertoire that he got away with for so many years because of his next level athleticism. Now that that his athleticism has faded we are left with some very ugly basketball. Fouls have nothing to do with it.

i dont think bron's athleticism has faded much at all. it's just his shot. He used to have defenders at least 3-5 feet on him ready to contest.. now he is given literally like 8 feet of space, no contest, so its impossible to beat a guy to the spot he wants to get to when guy is already sagged waiting in that spot. its pretty much as simple as that. Thats why bran has to use the off arm to clear the defender out of the space he is trying to get to.

[moongaze]

Why do you keep bringing up how big and fast and strong LeBron is? That isn't what we are talking about. He has no offensive moves. He has nothing to fake out the opponent besides a half assed pump fake. He isn't fast enough to beat anyone off the dribble. LeBron will use a pick and then slam into a defender as he bulldozes deep in the paint. Then he pauses for a few seconds and lets everyone collapse on him, and then goes up for a highly contested point blank shot and misses. This is not because of fouls. This is because LeBron has a virtually non existent offensive repertoire that he got away with for so many years because of his next level athleticism. Now that that his athleticism has faded we are left with some very ugly basketball. Fouls have nothing to do with it.

This is bull. Athletic talent usually superceeds moves especially on straight line drives. Kyrie and lebron are a perfect example. Kyrie for all his moves has been a less efficient finisher around the rim than lebron for career. This shows that despite his lack of moves, lebrons finishing ability is still higher due to his athleticism. Now if a guy is converting more at the rim, this means hrs harder to stop, right? Harder to stop should equate more fouls especially when the defense played when said player attempts shots at the rim are being highly contested. Lebron has been getting abused all series and only has 17 free throws to show for it

[TommyGriffin]

This is bull. Athletic talent usually superceeds moves especially on straight line drives. Kyrie and lebron are a perfect example. Kyrie for all his moves has been a less efficient finisher around the rim than lebron for career. This shows that despite his lack of moves, lebrons finishing ability is still higher due to his athleticism. Now if a guy is converting more at the rim, this means hrs harder to stop, right? Harder to stop should equate more fouls especially when the defense played when said player attempts shots at the rim are being highly contested. Lebron has been getting abused all series and only has 17 free throws to show for it
Lumping Kyrie in with LeBron? Stop right there. Kyrie has way better handles, way quicker off the dribble, and has a deadly pull up jump shot to keep his defenders honest. He is actually the complete opposite of LeBron as LeBron does not have great handles and lacks the first step quickness to blow by his opponent, and of course we all know how LeBron has no pull up jump shot for players to respect, so players sag off of him like what we used to see with Rondo, making it even more difficult for LeBron to blow by them.

Your only argument is, "LeBron is so big and fast, it's impossible to stop him with out fouling." :lol

[moongaze]

Were you born a retard or did your parents just drop you on your head as a kid? Learn to understand that he shoves the defender out of the way with his off hand but as he brings both hands to the ball to protect after the final dribble is where the resistance is at with the help defense. If he wasn't such a bitch he would be shooting from the outside to compensate for it but he can't shoot from the outside for shit and is predictable as hell. Back to the drawing board you go to think up another excuse to justify his failure....:lol

:facepalm due said it's hard to foul when your getting shoved out of the way. I responded with if he's shoving people out the way he should be able to score with little resistance. He then brought up the factor of help defense. In his initial post his premise was that he's not getting calls as much because guys are getting shoved out the way. Those guys would have to be helpful defenders also for his response to make sense.

[warriorfan]

It is absolutely excruciating watching this moongaze guy try to talk ball

seriously shut the **** up :roll:

[Straight_Ballin]

It is absolutely excruciating watching this moongaze guy try to talk ball

seriously shut the **** up :roll:

:lol

[Just2McFly]

a dude that's top five in nba playoff ppg doesn't have offensive moves?

lol stop the nonsense, we already know that he's not getting calls, he just has to adjust.

[KungFuJoe]

Moongaze...please...just stop. Go follow another sport, like badminton or miniature golf...basketball is too complicated for your simpleton brain to follow.

[moongaze]

Lumping Kyrie in with LeBron? Stop right there. Kyrie has way better handles, way quicker off the dribble, and has a deadly pull up jump shot to keep his defenders honest. He is actually the complete opposite of LeBron as LeBron does not have great handles and lacks the first step quickness to blow by his opponent, and of course we all know how LeBron has no pull up jump shot for players to respect, so players sag off of him like what we used to see with Rondo, making it even more difficult for LeBron to blow by them.

Your only argument is, "LeBron is so big and fast, it's impossible to stop him with out fouling." :lol

And yet he has a lower career fg average at the rim than lebron. Lol at you disproving your point. Smoke one for me, bro. I'm bout to go to work while the rest of you warrior dingleberries hibernate at home.

[moongaze]

It is absolutely excruciating watching this moongaze guy try to talk ball

seriously shut the **** up :roll:

It's funny watching you idiots post replies that don't make any sense. The best you can come up with are empty statements like kung fu. Not intelligent enough to actually bring substance to the table.

[Gileraracer]

No stiff arm is called? Lebron better keep sucking Refs d!ck

[sd3035]

Moongaze got obliterated in his own thread :roll:

[StephHamann]

So he needs more Free Throws, better teammates AND nobody is allowed to hurt his feelings.

How much more help does he need?

[Hey Yo]

This is 2016, he does not have those attributes anymore to finish all the time. Maybe in couple of plays but not all the time
Can agree with this.

6 straight Finals plus representing the Olympic team during that time would take a toll on any player. Especially when they've been the go to guy for 13 straight years (except for 2011 when it was still Wade's team)

[sd3035]

So he needs more Free Throws, better teammates AND nobody is allowed to hurt his feelings.

How much more help does he need?


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[Mr. Jabbar]

pretty hard to foul a guy when you've already been shoved out of the play

brutal

[GINOBILI!]

OP hasn't been watching the replays of extremely clean strips.

[Blue&Orange]

That would make sense if he lacked the speed, agility, height and explosiveness of the average player. A guy his size and power is able to bulky and overpower guys on drives. He's getting stopped by guys that lack his physical attributes due to getting hacked on every drive.
:roll: :lol :roll:

This is making me remember how Lebrontards were furious how NBA was allowing Hibbert to contest Lebron on the paint. LEbrontards weren't used to see paint protection and even thought that players weren't allow to jump and contest shots within the restricted area. :roll:

Conclusions
Lebrontars are so dumb.
East has been absolute trash, at one point Hibbert was Lebron's biggest competition.


Oh and if rules were enforced to the letter, Lebron would average 10ppg, dunno what dumb op is whinning about.