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Prometheus
06-14-2016, 11:23 AM
Who has played better so far this series? What is working/not working for each? What are we learning about how these two sensational talents match up with and compare to one another?

newbetterbucs07
06-14-2016, 11:30 AM
Kyrie has outplayed Curry this series. Curry has had 1/2 good games, while Kyrie has had 3. Curry has definitely never taken over a game in this series like Kyrie did last night.

plowking
06-14-2016, 11:32 AM
Curry is injured and Kyrie isn't. That is what we have learned.

Curry still attracts a lot of defensive attention though. Credit to him for playing the right way.

feyki
06-14-2016, 11:35 AM
Kyrie with last night .

newbetterbucs07
06-14-2016, 11:41 AM
Curry is injured and Kyrie isn't. That is what we have learned.

Curry still attracts a lot of defensive attention though. Credit to him for playing the right way.

:roll:

The unanimous MVP has been outplayed by the opposing point guard in 2 straight series now. You can make all of the excuses you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that Curry is proving himself to be a fraud and will be 0-22 after the series. :lol

Young X
06-14-2016, 11:42 AM
Kyrie. Curry has had one game this series where he's performed to or near his standards. In his 11 finals games he's had maybe 4-5 good performances. :facepalm

Out of all the shoot first "PG's", I like Irving's game the best because he has an in-between/midrange game. His scoring skillset is superior to guys like Curry or Lillard who are either behind the 3 point line or in the paint.

Lebron23
06-14-2016, 11:48 AM
Irving out played him in the NBA Finals.

lakers_forever
06-14-2016, 11:57 AM
Curry is injured and Kyrie isn't. That is what we have learned.

Curry still attracts a lot of defensive attention though. Credit to him for playing the right way.


Ah, the injury excuse... :no:


Thread: did Kobe overcome the most injuries/set backs out of any all time legend of any sport

It truly is amazing.

I'm not talking about Kobe either. More so that Kobe fans hype up all these injuries, use them as excuses, Kobe sits out a bit, etc.
Yet Lebron gets injuries, barely misses any games, and he gets critiqued for faking injuries by Kobe fans.

Bizarre world.

Thread: 2004 Kobe or 2007 LeBron: worse Finals performance?

Ah yes, the injury excuse works for Kobe, but not Dwyane Wade.

Thread: Kobe NOT to have surgery


All I know, if Kobe isn't shooting well (or up to his regular level) throughout two months or so, Kobe fans will have something to blame his poor form on.

Prometheus
06-14-2016, 01:11 PM
You look like a creepy, weird forum stalker with all of those quotes.

lakers_forever
06-14-2016, 01:18 PM
You look like a creepy, weird forum stalker with all of those quotes.

:lol :lol True. :cheers:

But, to my defense, I had no idea those quotes existed. Just googled "plowking kobe injury site:www.insidehoops.com" Just for the laughs. Don't worry. :lol

PS: Nothing personal against the guy. I don't even know who he is here (to be fair, I don't most people).

plowking
06-14-2016, 01:22 PM
:lol :lol True. :cheers:

But, to my defense, I had no idea those quotes existed. Just googled "plowking kobe injury site:www.insidehoops.com" Just for the laughs. Don't worry. :lol

The difference? Kobe fans act like Kobe was injured every post season. Talking about a sprained finger, a bruised something, a flare up.

Curry f*cked his knee pretty bad. Widely reported, blatantly visible and we all know what happened.

EDIT: And those first two quotes literally don't say shit. They just point out a double standard, and not that they don't count. More so they only conveniently count in one players favor.

stalkerforlife
06-14-2016, 01:23 PM
The difference? Kobe fans act like Kobe was injured every post season. Talking about a sprained finger, a bruised something, a flare up.

Curry f*cked his knee pretty bad. Widely reported, blatantly visible and we all know what happened.

You hate Kobe.

Just be sincere for once in your life.

plowking
06-14-2016, 01:26 PM
You hate Kobe.

Just be sincere for once in your life.

No I don't.

I'd probably hate you if I met you though.

lakers_forever
06-14-2016, 01:28 PM
The difference? Kobe fans act like Kobe was injured every post season. Talking about a sprained finger, a bruised something, a flare up.

Curry f*cked his knee pretty bad. Widely reported, blatantly visible and we all know what happened.

Personally, I think no one is 100%. Curry can be worse than others, but the injury did not prevent him for exploding against the Blazer or from scoring 38 against the cavs. I think it puts him in a win-win situation. If he plays well, he's great. If he doesn't, "well, he is injured".

But again. Nothing against you. I respect your opinion. :cheers:

plowking
06-14-2016, 01:32 PM
Personally, I think no one is 100%. Curry can be worse than others, but the injury did not prevent him for exploding against the Blazer or from scoring 38 against the cavs. I think it puts him in a win-win situation. If he plays well, he's great. If he doesn't, "well, he is injured".

But again. Nothing against you. I respect your opinion. :cheers:

My point is, this is a guy pulling out of his first Olympics. I imagine this is the highest honor for a lot of these guys. More so than winning a championship with their team. Winning a gold for their country is something I'm sure a lot of them would skip a season to be healthy for.

It doesn't put him in a win-win situation. He is playing like shit, but they are probably playing better with him there than they would without him.

Curry is undoubtedly a better player than Kyrie, but Kyrie may just well be breaking through this series to that next level. Kyrie has honestly been the only fun thing to watch this whole series. This whole playoffs has been extremely underwhelming for me aside from the OKC series. Hoping for a game 7 for some excitement, and for Curry to finally start playing.

DukeDelonte13
06-14-2016, 01:52 PM
My point is, this is a guy pulling out of his first Olympics. I imagine this is the highest honor for a lot of these guys. More so than winning a championship with their team. Winning a gold for their country is something I'm sure a lot of them would skip a season to be healthy for.

It doesn't put him in a win-win situation. He is playing like shit, but they are probably playing better with him there than they would without him.

Curry is undoubtedly a better player than Kyrie, but Kyrie may just well be breaking through this series to that next level. Kyrie has honestly been the only fun thing to watch this whole series. This whole playoffs has been extremely underwhelming for me aside from the OKC series. Hoping for a game 7 for some excitement, and for Curry to finally start playing.


Uh no. Winning an NBA chip >>>> winning a gold medal against a bunch of scrubs and the gasol brothers.

Curry isn't injured. Cavs are playing great D on him and are forcing GSW to beat them with their other personnel, just like they did last year. There is no mystery to this. Cavs just aren't letting him get into a rhythm. Let Braymond and Barnes shoot as many open 3's as they want.

CavaliersFTW
06-14-2016, 02:54 PM
http://i.giphy.com/XpU0RmAVxUpyM.gif

hiphopfan777
06-14-2016, 03:10 PM
Playoffs kyrie regular season stephen

Achilleas
06-14-2016, 03:27 PM
http://i.giphy.com/XpU0RmAVxUpyM.gif
do you think this is bad defence;

curry only play bad defence on game 3
game 1 and 2 curry defend kyrie most of the time and i didn't see kyrie
game 4 and 5 klay defend kyrie most of the time and curry when klay was out or when they screen him

kyrie making difficult shots,congrats to him :applause:

Jasper
06-14-2016, 03:33 PM
Everone is injuried at this point , so I would not doubt that Kyrie is injured as bad as Curry.

WHooo out played who is the discussion thread

Kyrie took control of series.

** People that say this game five was fixed , would mean that Curry was told to play shitty .... But yet Klay could score 30 and not play to win :wtf:

SexSymbol
06-14-2016, 03:58 PM
The difference? Kobe fans act like Kobe was injured every post season. Talking about a sprained finger, a bruised something, a flare up.

Curry f*cked his knee pretty bad. Widely reported, blatantly visible and we all know what happened.

EDIT: And those first two quotes literally don't say shit. They just point out a double standard, and not that they don't count. More so they only conveniently count in one players favor.
That's not a weak injury, especially on the shooting hand.
When you have to wrap up your finger in bandage it affects the way you handle the ball dramatically let alone shooting and passing.

to the OP topic
Curry receives twice as much defensive attention as Kyrie does and while the latter has better numbers, Curry is much more valuable and so far, better.

moongaze
06-14-2016, 04:46 PM
Curry vs Kyrie is a fun matchup on paper but Curry's game has been boring so far and Kyrie has totally dominated this matchup. It hasn't even really been that fun to watch the duel outside of game 4

PP34Deuce
06-14-2016, 05:25 PM
I think as far as PG play, Curry is a better PG.

As far as scoring versatility, It's Kyrie. He can do anything offensively with a ball. He's a big headache offensively.

Not as good a 3 point shooter as Curry but he's a legit threat.
Mid range shooter on Curry's level.

Curry's issue is he's scared to get hurt. I've seen Curry rain contested mid range shots in the past. Curry has mental playing problems.

livinglegend
06-14-2016, 05:27 PM
It's not even close. Kyrie by faaaarrrrr!
Kyrie also outplayed curry in game 1 of last year's finals playing hurt.

tpols
06-14-2016, 05:29 PM
http://i.giphy.com/XpU0RmAVxUpyM.gif

this is where the dubs needed draymond green. that was a weak contest from barnes ...

Achilleas
06-14-2016, 05:32 PM
this is where the dubs needed draymond green. that was a weak contest from barnes ...

kyrie and lebron were in the zone scoring everything,i don't think would have stop more than 10 points

barnes was bad on offence :banghead:

Lebron23
06-14-2016, 05:32 PM
http://i.giphy.com/XpU0RmAVxUpyM.gif


I jumped when Kyrie Did that play against the Warriors.

tpols
06-14-2016, 05:52 PM
kyrie and lebron were in the zone scoring everything,i don't think would have stop more than 10 points

barnes was bad on offence :banghead:

basketball is a game of momentum .. if green swats that, warriors leak out, and say klay or curry hit a 3, that's a 5 point swing and pressure gets that much more on them to perserve the lead, crowd gets into it etc. I think he couldve made a big difference.

ArbitraryWater
06-14-2016, 05:59 PM
Plowking so clearly has his favorites, but he acts like he doesn't :oldlol:

And lol at American NBA players giving more of a shit about the Olympics than an NBA Championship.

RedBlackAttack
06-14-2016, 06:13 PM
Curry is injured and Kyrie isn't. That is what we have learned.

Curry still attracts a lot of defensive attention though. Credit to him for playing the right way.
Curry's injuries seem to come and go based on how he plays. An actual injured Kyrie Irving outplayed a 100% Curry in the one Finals game they had against one another last year.

This is no mirage. Kyrie is a beast and now everyone on the floor knows Curry literally cannot defend him... including Steph. Meanwhile, Curry remains just a functional cog in a well oiled machine. Ask him to step out of that role -- the way Kyrie has had to out of pure necessity -- and he becomes much less threatening.

His defense also falls off a cliff when he doesn't have the support of great defensive bigs behind him.


It's not an indictment on Steph. He has not been awful in this series... mostly, he has fulfilled his role. But, Kyrie -- with the season on the line -- is playing transcendent basketball in 11 of the last 12 quarters and that fact can't be argued. And, at just 24... it's pretty freaking incredible.

STATUTORY
06-14-2016, 06:14 PM
so Kyrie has outplayed Curry, but Lebron still needs more help?

Can't have it both ways

RedBlackAttack
06-14-2016, 06:21 PM
do you think this is bad defence
...no, it was actually a foul. Kyrie was also fouled on the 3-pointer he hit to put the final nail in the coffin the next trip down court.

Kyrie clearly hit on the arm as he released that floater...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QGkDBXnLA#t=7m5s


Guy was playing about as aggressively as humanly possible last night and he shot 2 free throws. lol

G0ATbe
06-14-2016, 06:44 PM
Kyrie only because Curry's injured. If Cavs win Kyrie easily snatches FMVP, if Warriors win, Curry.

RedBlackAttack
06-14-2016, 06:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck8VEPuVEAAShoX.jpg

DMAVS41
06-14-2016, 07:02 PM
No doubt about it...Kyrie has clearly outplayed him so far. But hey...apparently the Cavs would be better with an old Jason Kidd. :roll: :roll: :roll:

ArbitraryWater
06-14-2016, 07:08 PM
I jumped when Kyrie Did that play against the Warriors.

lol
no need to clarify brodie

tpols
06-14-2016, 08:27 PM
No doubt about it...Kyrie has clearly outplayed him so far. But hey...apparently the Cavs would be better with an old Jason Kidd. :roll: :roll: :roll:

dang .. that's embarrassing lol. who the hell said that? :lol Kyrie has been on fire.. young kobe out there for sure.

DMAVS41
06-14-2016, 08:33 PM
dang .. that's embarrassing lol. who the hell said that? :lol Kyrie has been on fire.. young kobe out there for sure.

Can't remember. Can't be any worse than that guy (me) 2 years ago that called the Warriors out for not trading Klay for Love...and also called TT a bad defender.

:rockon:

Micku
06-14-2016, 09:25 PM
As people said, I think Curry is the better overall player.

However, these playoffs might be Kyrie breakout moment. He could be going to that next step as a player. He's 24, so he's young.

At this very moment, Kyrie is totally out playing Curry.

I don't know what is exactly wrong with Curry. His shot isn't falling and he is in a shooting stump. He can still attract attention and set up his teammates, but his impact is limited. He is still shooting well, but he isn't the same Curry that we're used to in the regular season. He is getting good looks, but it's not falling. The Cavs are also playing good defense on him by double or triple teaming him sometimes.

Kyrie is just on fire right now. Taking people off the dribble with the isos, making tough contested shots, make moves off the screens. The Warriors are contesting his shots. There are times where he just iso Klay Thompson, takes him off the dribble and shoot a fadeaway or do a spin move jumper and he makes'em. He is just on fire.

He is also getting open due to LBJ drives as well. But for the most part, it's just him isoing I think. Anyhow, it's pretty entertaining. Some of that footwork reminds me of Kobe and him hitting those tough shots. While I wouldn't bet this performance would continue since the Warriors are playing good D, this definitely improves Kyrie confidence.

moongaze
06-14-2016, 09:51 PM
...no, it was actually a foul. Kyrie was also fouled on the 3-pointer he hit to put the final nail in the coffin the next trip down court.

Kyrie clearly hit on the arm as he released that floater...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QGkDBXnLA#t=7m5s


Guy was playing about as aggressively as humanly possible last night and he shot 2 free throws. lol

It's sad that the cavs cant get any calls against golden state. I've watched the replays closely and it looks like steph hits Kyrie's arm on several shots. Kyrie would have had close to 50 points if they called a lot of the dirty stuff that goes on.

Lebron23
06-14-2016, 10:14 PM
dang .. that's embarrassing lol. who the hell said that? :lol Kyrie has been on fire.. young kobe out there for sure.


Better Finals performer than Kobe. When was the last time Kobe averaged 28 ppg on 49 FG% in the NBA Finals??

Vragrant
06-14-2016, 10:31 PM
This is not even an even comparison for two reasons. First, Kyrie is playing spectacular ball, but he doesn't see anything close to the defensive attention Steph does. I think I can count on one hand the number of times he's seen a double, where Steph is doubled every possession. He's one of the best iso players in the league and he's allowed to do just that.

Secondly, Steph is injured. Yeah, he's playing so there's 'no excuses ' or whatever tired cliche you want to throw in there, but anyone who's seen him can see the difference. It's big deal, when you are playing elite comp. I'm a huge D Wade fan, so I know.

IGOTGAME
06-14-2016, 10:37 PM
This is not even an even comparison for two reasons. First, Kyrie is playing spectacular ball, but he doesn't see anything close to the defensive attention Steph does. I think I can count on one hand the number of times he's seen a double, where Steph is doubled every possession. He's one of the best iso players in the league and he's allowed to do just that.

Secondly, Steph is injured. Yeah, he's playing so there's 'no excuses ' or whatever tired cliche you want to throw in there, but anyone who's seen him can see the difference. It's big deal, when you are playing elite comp. I'm a huge D Wade fan, so I know.

Kyrie isn't using screens nearly as much, that's why he isn't doubled. You think Kerr is just going to run a second defender at him while he is isolating 23 feet away from the basket.

CTbasketball92
06-14-2016, 10:39 PM
^^^ this is true, but this GSW defense has looked impenetrable at times. Kyrie is going against at least three great defenders and a legit rim protector every game.

I think Curry is just a bit too one-dimensional as a scorer. I don't think he has the athleticism/burst/body control to make the difficult shots Kyrie is capable of making.

SamuraiSWISH
06-14-2016, 10:54 PM
Kyrie. Curry has had one game this series where he's performed to or near his standards. In his 11 finals games he's had maybe 4-5 good performances. :facepalm

Out of all the shoot first "PG's", I like Irving's game the best because he has an in-between/midrange game. His scoring skillset is superior to guys like Curry or Lillard who are either behind the 3 point line or in the paint.
Agree.

That midrange offensive game and jumper ... Plus some nice footwork and pivots reminiscent of MJ and Kobe on a smaller frame. He's a superior ISO scorer to Steph. Kyrie uses his handle to attack, where Curry purely uses it to step back. Also Curry needs more picks and mismatch switches to do damage. And also, obviously, elite spacing.

Kyrie is killing some quality, athletic and long man defenders. And also getting to the rim finishing over their big men. Much more impressive.

And also why I still consider CP3 the best actual PG in the game due to the diversity in his scoring skill set. And unlike Kyrie who is kind of bad at playmaking, distribution, and defense ... Paul excels.

And just SMH at morons with the convenient injury excuses for when Curry doesn't perform well.

:facepalm

Pointguard
06-14-2016, 11:21 PM
Curry is injured and Kyrie isn't. That is what we have learned.

Do I need to show you how you totally contradict this statement when talking about other players?

TheMarkMadsen
06-14-2016, 11:26 PM
Do I need to show you how you totally contradict this statement when talking about other players?


:roll: :roll:

plowking
06-14-2016, 11:34 PM
Do I need to show you how you totally contradict this statement when talking about other players?

Sure, go ahead.

KiiiiNG
06-14-2016, 11:42 PM
I'd take Kyrie in a finals series. Kyrie is SO MUCH better than Curry at driving/finishing. Irivngs foot-work is so much more advanced...

And Irving's D is better when he's locked in.

Kyrie is just an overall tougher player.. obviously that's not saying much, as Curry is insanely physically and mentally weak.

I'm shocked at Curry's lack of ability to drive and finish. You take away his 3pt. shot and he's a deer in headlights... looks like a middle schooler out there at times with his lack of size, athleticism, and his predictable/unoriginal footwork.

Spurs m8
06-14-2016, 11:56 PM
Steph Curry is scoring 8 less ppg in the finals then he did in the regular season. This is the worst scoring dip by a current NBA MVP in atleast 25 years.

F*cking LOL

Spurs m8
06-15-2016, 04:42 AM
Bump

Dro
06-15-2016, 01:13 PM
Kyrie isn't using screens nearly as much, that's why he isn't doubled. You think Kerr is just going to run a second defender at him while he is isolating 23 feet away from the basket.
EXACTLY. And someone already said it. Kyrie is the better 1 on 1 player, he's probably the best 1 on 1 player in the league. He doesn't need screens. Curry uses more screens, way more. I'm not saying he needs them, I'm just pointing out how much he uses them and its easy to double him that way.

CTbasketball92
06-15-2016, 01:47 PM
What do you guys think of this lol

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/steph-curry-kyrie-irving-nba-finals/

I swear bball writers are kyrie's greatest enemy. I can't believe the way this writer is undermining the obvious statistical advantage Kyrie has in the finals and wants to give credit to Curry's defense on JR smith, while kyrie has guarded 6'7" point guards and Curry himself all series. He wants to talk about the warriors bench alleviating the need for curry to score more, but not about how that should theoretically make his job easier.

IDK now that i see just how reliant Curry is on his 3point shot, i don't look at him the same way. He simply doesn't have the strength, first step and coordination to create easy looks for himself the way CP3, westbrook and Irving can. Still a great player, though. Time for him to stop being a glorified spot-up shooter.

dubnation
06-15-2016, 01:57 PM
What do you guys think of this lol

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/steph-curry-kyrie-irving-nba-finals/

I swear bball writers are kyrie's greatest enemy. I can't believe the way this writer is undermining the obvious statistical advantage Kyrie has in the finals and wants to give credit to Curry's defense on JR smith, while kyrie has guarded 6'7" point guards and Curry himself all series. He wants to talk about the warriors bench alleviating the need for curry to score more, but not about how that should theoretically make his job easier.

IDK now that i see just how reliant Curry is on his 3point shot, i don't look at him the same way. He simply doesn't have the strength, first step and coordination to create easy looks for himself the way CP3, westbrook and Irving can. Still a great player, though. Time for him to stop being a glorified spot-up shooter.

A glorified spot up shooter? Lmfao :roll:

Did you watch the Warriors at all this year?

CTbasketball92
06-15-2016, 02:01 PM
A glorified spot up shooter? Lmfao :roll:

Did you watch the Warriors at all this year?

I meant this post-season, my bad. But seriously, for all the talk about his GOAT level handle and his finishing ability and his midrange jumper (which is excellent) He has been entirely too passive. He is playing like Kyle Korver with handle, when he was a steve nash sort of player a few years ago. This guy can do other things, but instead, he's been what feels like just a really good cog in a flawless system with the roster to make absolutely any adjustment necessary. Westbrook, CP3 and Irving never have that advantage, and yet I could never imagine any of them being such relative non-factors in such an important series.

dubnation
06-15-2016, 02:06 PM
I meant this post-season, my bad. But seriously, for all the talk about his GOAT level handle and his finishing ability and his midrange jumper (which is excellent) He has been entirely too passive. He is playing like Kyle Korver with handle, when he was a steve nash sort of player a few years ago. This guy can do other things, but instead, he's been what feels like just a really good cog in a flawless system with the roster to make absolutely any adjustment necessary. Westbrook, CP3 and Irving never have that advantage, and yet I could never imagine any of them being such relative non-factors in such an important series.

I don't want to make excuses for him, but it's clear he can't get the same separation he could in the regular season. For someone that relies on limited physical advantages, that's going to make a game-changing difference in effectiveness.

Still, I agree 100% he's playing soft and not engaged. He's let this injury affect him mentally and it's clear for everyone to see...

warriorfan
06-15-2016, 02:10 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/maxresdefault.jpg

MJ, KAJ, Bird and Magic have never come back from a knee injury in the playoffs as severe as Curry suffered and maintained or elevated their regular season averages.

Stop demanding something from Curry that was never demanded to any of the other GOATs

CTbasketball92
06-15-2016, 02:12 PM
I don't want to make excuses for him, but it's clear he can't get the same separation he could in the regular season. For someone that relies on limited physical advantages, that's going to make a game-changing difference in effectiveness.

Still, I agree 100% he's playing soft and not engaged. He's let this injury affect him mentally and it's clear for everyone to see...

Yeah, I'd really love to know what's wrong with him after this finals. I saw him do a 360 dunk pretty effortlessly in warmups the other day, and it seems like that requires almost every component of athleticism that'd be compromised by bad leg/knee injuries (acceleration, leaping, landing ... etc). To me he also looks pretty damn fast out there. Maybe he can't start and stop like he usually can. I don't know, but i think we should give credit to the cavs defense focusing entirely on him and letting role players go off, because Curry looks like he's playing the same way he played during the regular season ... just missing shots. I never saw curry split double teams and hit twisting fadeaway jumpers, or willingly explode to the basket over big men as a first option. He doesn't play downhill, he goes east-west seemingly no matter what. I think there's a chance he simply lacks the elite first step, strength and body control to create space in the midrange/rim area like other elite point guards. That's fine, but he's got to do a bit more with his crazy vision and ability to breakdown a defense. Or just start hitting shots, which, knowing steph, is due to happen tomorrow.

CTbasketball92
06-15-2016, 02:17 PM
I don't want to make excuses for him, but it's clear he can't get the same separation he could in the regular season. For someone that relies on limited physical advantages, that's going to make a game-changing difference in effectiveness.

Still, I agree 100% he's playing soft and not engaged. He's let this injury affect him mentally and it's clear for everyone to see...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKHYQTOPnWE

actually, he does look a bit quicker here

Pointguard
06-15-2016, 04:03 PM
Sure, go ahead.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11839101&postcount=21

We'll start here. A career injury - not a two week injury. I got more.

r0drig0lac
06-15-2016, 05:09 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11839101&postcount=21

We'll start here. A career injury - not a two week injury. I got more.
https://media.giphy.com/media/dnP2VxYVlW2NW/giphy.gif

DMAVS41
06-15-2016, 05:23 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11839101&postcount=21

We'll start here. A career injury - not a two week injury. I got more.

Curious...do you still think the Cavs are better without Kyrie?

Also...do you still think the Cavs would have lost to the Hawks last year if Kyrie and Love had been healthy?

For those that don't remember...Kyrie was hurt in that series and only played 2 games and was clearly nowhere near 100%.

The Cavs swept the Hawks.

So...you still think the Cavs go from sweeping the Hawks to losing with health?

Pointguard
06-15-2016, 07:49 PM
Curious...do you still think the Cavs are better without Kyrie?
Did somebody just fart?

ArbitraryWater
06-15-2016, 07:52 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11839101&postcount=21

We'll start here. A career injury - not a two week injury. I got more.

https://media.giphy.com/media/dnP2VxYVlW2NW/giphy.gif

nba_55
06-15-2016, 07:54 PM
Curious...do you still think the Cavs are better without Kyrie?

Also...do you still think the Cavs would have lost to the Hawks last year if Kyrie and Love had been healthy?

For those that don't remember...Kyrie was hurt in that series and only played 2 games and was clearly nowhere near 100%.

The Cavs swept the Hawks.

So...you still think the Cavs go from sweeping the Hawks to losing with health?

I remember him trying to convince everyone Cavs would be better without Kyrie. :roll: :roll: :roll:

SupermanOnSteroids
06-15-2016, 08:05 PM
kyrie much better play in the finals but curry's the better player.

ISHGoat
06-15-2016, 08:18 PM
Just came in here to state that DRose is trash and his MVP, along with Nashs', are the most ill-deserved ones in the history of the award.

DMAVS41
06-15-2016, 08:23 PM
Did somebody just fart?

Yea...and it had more basketball knowledge than anything you've ever said.

warriorfan
06-15-2016, 08:24 PM
Let us remember, Kyrie Irving did not suffer an MCL injury during this postseason

Pointguard
06-15-2016, 08:31 PM
I remember him trying to convince everyone Cavs would be better without Kyrie. :roll: :roll: :roll:

I definitively never tried to convince anybody of that. I said, it takes time to acclimate stars on the same team. And I used every pairing of recent superstars to show my point and the Cavalier problem of acclimating Love after two years. If you want the argument... I have time to laugh at you.

!@#$%Vectors!@#
06-15-2016, 08:40 PM
Kyrie has played really well this playoffs but you can't breath on the guy without him going to the FT line. If only Steph got such treatment.

!@#$%Vectors!@#
06-15-2016, 08:41 PM
I definitively never tried to convince anybody of that. I said, it takes time to acclimate stars on the same team. And I used every pairing of recent superstars to show my point and the Cavalier problem of acclimating Love after two years. If you want the argument... I have time to laugh at you.


Ether

DMAVS41
06-15-2016, 08:53 PM
I definitively never tried to convince anybody of that. I said, it takes time to acclimate stars on the same team. And I used every pairing of recent superstars to show my point and the Cavalier problem of acclimating Love after two years. If you want the argument... I have time to laugh at you.

No...we have time to laugh at you.

Originally Posted by Pointguard
Against GS this year, yes, without question. As a young team they without identity, with Kyrie they would have embraced more of an offensive game because they would have two top 10 scorers. I believe Atlanta would have beat them as well.


We have all the time in the world....:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I want everyone to think about this. The Cavs swept the Hawks last year. He is arguing that the series goes from a sweep in favor of the Cavs...to a loss if their 2nd best player is healthy. I shit you not...and he still, to this day, tries to defend this.

It's the single funniest and dumbest thing I've truly ever heard in my life.

plowking
06-15-2016, 09:57 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11839101&postcount=21

We'll start here. A career injury - not a two week injury. I got more.

How is me commenting about his defense always sucking a dig at his injury?

I said he always sucked on defense.

So show me a post of me expecting a players level of play to be similar immediately after an injury, while they could possibly still be injured.

Pointguard
06-16-2016, 08:19 PM
Yea...and it had more basketball knowledge than anything you've ever said.
Figures you would think your birth canal would produce something with content other than you.