View Full Version : Michael Jordan never had a game 7 in finals unlike Lebron James
hiphopfan777
06-14-2016, 12:14 PM
Nothing special if James wins finals 2016. Got a glue guy suspended and a game 7. Jordan doesnt even know what that is. Also andrew bogut is injured and Steph Curry is hurt
Prometheus
06-14-2016, 12:15 PM
You seem like someone who really lives in the moment.
KyrieTheFuture
06-14-2016, 12:16 PM
Nothing special if a team becomes the first to win down 3-1, on the road, against one of the top 3 teams ever. Alright.
SouBeachTalents
06-14-2016, 12:18 PM
ISH attracts the dumbest people
LBJ 23
06-14-2016, 02:12 PM
Here's a new one. 2/7 is not attractive anymore, now it's ''it doesn't count for Lebron, he had to play game 7!!!''
Priceless:oldlol:
Nothing special if James wins finals 2016. Got a glue guy suspended and a game 7. Jordan doesnt even know what that is. Also andrew bogut is injured and Steph Curry is hurt
What does Jordan have to do with Lebron being down 3-1 in the Finals and possibly making a great comeback?
The Cavs still have to win 2 more games with Green in the lineup, one a game 7. If the Cavs win, I'd give Lebron and all those guys all the credit in the world...But AGAIN...I'm a GROWN UP.
LBJFTW
06-14-2016, 04:39 PM
What does Jordan have to do with Lebron being down 3-1 in the Finals and possibly making a great comeback?
The Cavs still have to win 2 more games with Green in the lineup, one a game 7. If the Cavs win, I'd give Lebron and all those guys all the credit in the world...But AGAIN...I'm a GROWN UP.
If my hometown wins Kyrie is walking away with the FMVP. They won't win though and lebron will go down in history as the guy who went 2/7 and lost back to back to back finals. ESPN will be castrated for ranking him 3rd all time by every media outlet. Interesting times. Interesting times indeed.
StrongLurk
06-14-2016, 04:50 PM
Nothing special if James wins finals 2016. Got a glue guy suspended and a game 7. Jordan doesnt even know what that is. Also andrew bogut is injured and Steph Curry is hurt
This poster is on minimum wage, for sure.
LBJFTW
06-14-2016, 04:54 PM
This poster is on minimum wage, for sure.
At least he has a job unlike yourself.
Wally450
06-14-2016, 04:56 PM
Damn, reaching. Now we're gonna start grasping at game 7s in Finals? (If Cleveland forces it)
:facepalm
LBJFTW
06-14-2016, 05:08 PM
Damn, reaching. Now we're gonna start grasping at game 7s in Finals? (If Cleveland forces it)
:facepalm
Please.... if Jordan did have a game 7 and Lebron was 2/7 with never having played in a game 7 bron stans would somehow try to twist that like they do everything else and use that as justification that Bron was a better finals performer. :rolleyes:
livinglegend
06-14-2016, 05:11 PM
Please.... if Jordan did have a game 7 and Lebron was 2/7 with never having played in a game 7 bron stans would somehow try to twist that like they do everything else and use that as justification that Bron was a better finals performer. :rolleyes:
Jordan is 1-9. That's all that matters.
LBJFTW
06-14-2016, 05:16 PM
Jordan is 1-9. That's all that matters.
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1-9 was already debunked awhile ago. Try to keep up.
Time to put this 1-9 thing to bed:
1984-85 Bulls (38-44) faced (59-23) Bucks and lost (1-3). Win differential (21 games). Bucks of the mid 80's were a very good team.
1985-86 Bulls (30-52) faced (67-15) Celtics and lost (0-3). Win differential (37 games). This Celtics team is widely regarded as the GOAT team ever.
1986-87 Bulls (40-42) faced (59-23) Celtics and lost (0-3). Win differential (29 games). This Celtics team made the finals.
MJ's numbers during these 10 playoff games:
35.5 PPG, 27.4 PER 6.3 RPG, 6.9 APG, 2.4 SPG, 1.5 BPG
How can anyone in their right mind expect a rookie, 2nd and 3rd year MJ with utterly no help to beat an elite team (Bucks) and a GOAT level team (Celtics)? And yes, I can openly admit that early years MJ didn't exactly play championship level ball (taking what the D gives you and getting others involved). But even if he had played perfect, team ball, it still wouldn't have mattered because of the HUGE gap in talent between his team and the teams he faced were way too large.
livinglegend
06-14-2016, 05:18 PM
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1-9 was already debunked awhile ago. Try to keep up.
Empty stats. 1-9 without Pippen and GOAT coach Phil.
If you make the first round and you are a superstar, you are expected to win. NO EXCUSES.
bigkingsfan
06-14-2016, 05:23 PM
Jordan was better off losing to the Magic in the previous round.
Dray n Klay
06-14-2016, 05:23 PM
Empty stats. 1-9 without Pippen and GOAT coach Phil.
If you make the first round and you are a superstar, you are expected to win. NO EXCUSES.
Get his ass :lol :banana:
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 05:46 PM
Empty stats. 1-9 without Pippen and GOAT coach Phil.
If you make the first round and you are a superstar, you are expected to win. NO EXCUSES.
If you're a superstar you're expected to make the playoffs, so why didn't Lebron do so in 2005? NO EXCUSES.
Hey Yo
06-14-2016, 05:56 PM
If you're a superstar you're expected to make the playoffs, so why didn't Lebron do so in 2005? NO EXCUSES.
Cavs went 42-40 and missed the 8th seed via tiebreaker with New Jersey.
If James played in the East in 1986 that record prob. would have got him the 3 seed considering Jordan got in with a 30-52 record.
NBAGOAT
06-14-2016, 05:59 PM
Cavs went 42-40 and missed the 8th seed via tiebreaker with New Jersey.
If James played in the East in 1986 that record prob. would have got him the 3 seed considering Jordan got in with a 30-52 record.
:wtf: you can't be serious with this when it's that easy to check the standings. 42-40 would've been a 6th seed.
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:11 PM
Cavs went 42-40 and missed the 8th seed via tiebreaker with New Jersey.
If James played in the East in 1986 that record prob. would have got him the 3 seed considering Jordan got in with a 30-52 record.
First, you're assuming that the Cavs would win 42 in 1986. 1986 and 2005 are worlds apart. The top 5 seeds in 1986 were all above 46 wins. In 2005, the third seed had 45 wins. There were two great teams, Miami and Detroit, and a glut of mediocrity. If Lebron couldn't lead the Cavs to the playoffs in 2005, he's not doing it in 86.
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:13 PM
:wtf: you can't be serious with this when it's that easy to check the standings. 42-40 would've been a 6th seed.
He's also acting like the Cavs would have the same record in 1986. If they could only muster 42 in 2005, how the hell are they doing that in 86? The Bulls were only a 30 win team because MJ missed 64 games, they're probably a 5th seeded team with him playing the entire year. Hell, the Cavs in 2005 couldn't even win more games than the fcuking Bulls led by Hinrich, Gordon and Eddie fcukin Curry.
Hey Yo
06-14-2016, 06:16 PM
:wtf: you can't be serious with this when it's that easy to check the standings. 42-40 would've been a 6th seed.
That's why I said "probably".... not stating as fact, no big deal. But making the playoffs with 30 wins is pathetic.
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:26 PM
That's why I said "probably".... not stating as fact, no big deal. But making the playoffs with 30 wins is pathetic.
These are the records of the top 5 east teams in 1986:
67-15 Celtics
59-23 Bucks
54-28 Sixers
50-32 Hawks
46-36 Pistons
The east was top-heavy and loaded in the mid 80's, not complete shit like throughout Lebron's career. Hence why the lower 3 seeds were all sub .500. Of course, the Bulls with a healthy Jordan obviously win more than 30 games but you already knew that.
Hey Yo
06-14-2016, 06:28 PM
First, you're assuming that the Cavs would win 42 in 1986. 1986 and 2005 are worlds apart. The top 5 seeds in 1986 were all above 46 wins. In 2005, the third seed had 45 wins. There were two great teams, Miami and Detroit, and a glut of mediocrity. If Lebron couldn't lead the Cavs to the playoffs in 2005, he's not doing it in 86.
And that isn't assuming? ^^^^^
Like I said, they missed out via tiebreaker and they were 4 wins away from a 3 seed. MJ's Bulls in 86 were 24 wins away from a 3 seed.
Missing the playoffs with 42 wins and a winning record >>>>>> getting in with a 30-52 record as an 8 seed with no chance of winning whatsover/ getting swept.
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:32 PM
And that isn't assuming? ^^^^^
Like I said, they missed out via tiebreaker and they were 4 wins away from a 3 seed. MJ's Bulls in 86 were 24 wins away from a 3 seed.
Missing the playoffs with 42 wins and a winning record >>>>>> getting in with a 30-52 record as an 8 seed with no chance of winning whatsover/ getting swept.
It's a more reasonable assumption or opinion than simply transporting Lebron's Cavs in 1986 and assuming they'll win 42 games in a tough east, when they couldn't even achieve that in an unarguably weaker mid 2000's East. And let's not act like the Bulls weren't missing MJ for 64 games. A healthy MJ AT THE LEAST leads them to the same record than Lebron did in 2005, only in a much tougher conference.
livinglegend
06-14-2016, 06:35 PM
If you're a superstar you're expected to make the playoffs, so why didn't Lebron do so in 2005? NO EXCUSES.
I'm not making excuses. Lebron didn't make it that year, but he got his team to the finals after.
Jordan NEVER won more than 1 playoffs game without Pippen and Phil.
1-9
NBAGOAT
06-14-2016, 06:37 PM
He's also acting like the Cavs would have the same record in 1986. If they could only muster 42 in 2005, how the hell are they doing that in 86? The Bulls were only a 30 win team because MJ missed 64 games, they're probably a 5th seeded team with him playing the entire year. Hell, the Cavs in 2005 couldn't even win more games than the fcuking Bulls led by Hinrich, Gordon and Eddie fcukin Curry.
hey hey don't forget Ben Gordon and young Tyson Chandler. They were no contender but had a decently balanced roster(Curry was actually decent lol). Skiles wasn't bad as a poor man's Thibodeau. You're right about the MJ stuff ofc(i'm thinking 40-45 wins). I don't see much reason Lebron couldn't get his Cavs to 35-40 wins however and get a 8 seed however.
LBJFTW
06-14-2016, 06:38 PM
But he went 1-9 until he had enough help like anyone else who's ever been successful in the NBA.
Well no shit. :roll:
Making haters meltdown for days living rent free and handing out L's.
What else is new.
What a time!
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/6/005/09b/04b/358a0d2.jpg
Now the haters are shook about a stat that's been around for over 18 years...MJ never having a game 7. :oldlol:
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:38 PM
I'm not making excuses. Lebron didn't make it that year, but he got his team to the finals after.
Jordan NEVER won more than 1 playoffs game without Pippen and Phil.
1-9
A superstar should lead his team to the playoffs, especially in a shitty conference. The end.
6/6> 2/6
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:39 PM
hey hey don't forget Ben Gordon and young Tyson Chandler. They were no contender but had a decently balanced roster(Curry was actually decent lol). Skiles wasn't bad as a poor man's Thibodeau. You're right about the MJ stuff ofc(i'm thinking 40-45 wins). I don't see much reason Lebron couldn't get his Cavs to 35-40 wins however and get a 8 seed however.
Gordon was the second name I posted.
livinglegend
06-14-2016, 06:42 PM
A superstar should lead his team to the playoffs, especially in a shitty conference. The end.
6/6> 2/6
If your team is good enough to make the playoffs and you are a superstar, you should make the 2nd round. 1-9 is not good enough.
1/10 <<< 2/6
1-9
NBAGOAT
06-14-2016, 06:45 PM
Gordon was the second name I posted.
ah srry I meant Deng but he was definitely a role player that year.
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:45 PM
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES ETC ETC
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES 2/7 INCOMING EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES
Agreed.
livinglegend
06-14-2016, 06:47 PM
Agreed.
I win.
NEXT
Dragonyeuw
06-14-2016, 06:47 PM
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES ETC ETC
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES 2/7 INCOMING EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES
Yep. :applause:
SouBeachTalents
09-18-2016, 12:55 AM
If my hometown wins Kyrie is walking away with the FMVP. They won't win though and lebron will go down in history as the guy who went 2/7 and lost back to back to back finals. ESPN will be castrated for ranking him 3rd all time by every media outlet. Interesting times. Interesting times indeed.
Hard to believe someone could be wrong about so many things in one post
3ball
09-18-2016, 01:56 AM
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Imagine if Kawhi Leonard averaged 33 ppg on 50% within that Spurs system.
That's what Jordan did - he averaged those stats in a Spurs-like, equal-opportunity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=23m40s) system.
And btw - if Kawhi could average 33 efficiently within the Spurs system, than consider how much more control and execution the Spurs would have in the clutch MORE THAN THEY ALREADY HAVE.
Popovich has already likened (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11875185&postcount=49) Kawhi to Jordan (without the scoring ability of course).
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