25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg 41.2 FG%, 50.7 TS% - Guess who's Finals stats?

[TrueBlue89]

I had no idea Kobe's stats were so mediocre. How the hell did he go 5/7?

Even Curry who's getting killed right now is a much better performer in the Finals.

[Nilocon165]

I had no idea Kobe's stats were so mediocre. How the hell did he go 5/7? Even Curry's a better performer in the Finals.
:biggums:

Now that's some retarded shit

[Lebron23]

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[IllegalD]

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http://www.diariogol.com/es/img2/2015/10/odom-gasol-kobe-jackson-41289.jpg

Can't wait until tomorrow when you disappear again :applause:

Most insecure, weak-minded beta on this board.

[Smook A.]

I had no idea Kobe's stats were so mediocre. How the hell did he go 5/7?

Even Curry who's getting killed right now is a much better performer in the Finals.
Well Kobe did have one of THE most dominant players in history alongside him for the majority of his finals appreances :confusedshrug:

[scuzzy]

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:cheers: :oldlol: :applause:

[ShawkFactory]

If you didn't exist that would be cool

[Prime_Shaq]

Not everyone can be MJ.

[SouBeachTalents]

I had no idea Kobe's stats were so mediocre. How the hell did he go 5/7?

Even Curry who's getting killed right now is a much better performer in the Finals.

:lol

[jstern]

Those are low numbers for Kobe who for some reason always under performed in the Finals. But when you have Shaq, the most dominant ever, and played the Olando Magics of the world, and a 5th seeded Boston team, you can afford to play under par. You can shoot 6/24 and still win.

[GrapeApe]

25/6/5 in 7 finals appearances is mediocre? I know the efficiency isn't great but that's all-time great production. The only other guards to produce at a comparable or better level in 25+ finals games are Jordan, Magic, West, and Wade. Including Kobe those are arguably the 5 greatest guards ever. I'd hardly call Kobe a "mediocre" finals performer.

[Smoke117]

https://m.popkey.co/268c58/grZAZ.gif

[KiiiiNG]

Not everyone can be LeBron.

[warriorfan]

Not everyone can be LeBron.

True some of us lucked out and dont have small units like you and LeShriveled

[Human Error]

Didn't know he shot over 40% in Finals. :eek:

He was always going 6 for 33 or something as far as I can remember.

The most overrated and luckiest dude in sports history.

[SouBeachTalents]

25/6/5 in 7 finals appearances is mediocre? I know the efficiency isn't great but that's all-time great production. The only other guards to produce at a comparable or better level in 25+ finals games are Jordan, Magic, West, and Wade. Including Kobe those are arguably the 5 greatest guards ever. I'd hardly call Kobe a "mediocre" finals performer.

It's honestly subpar for a player of Kobe's caliber. Many times his Finals averages would fall below his regular season & playoff numbers.

2001
RS: 29/6/5 46%
PO: 32/7/6 49%
F: 25/8/6 42%

2004
RS: 24/6/5 44%
PO: 25/5/6 42%
F: 23/3/4 38%

2008
RS: 28/6/5 46%
PO: 32/6/6 51%
F: 26/5/5 41%

Ditto his averages from 2000-10 for the regular season, postseason, and Finals

RS: 28/6/5 46%
PO: 28/6/5 45%
F: 25/6/5 41%

[Mr Feeny]

Depends on the usage but those are are some really subpar numbers for anyone with a high usage rate.
Horrific shooting percentage as well.

[IllegalD]

It's honestly subpar for a player of Kobe's caliber. Many times his Finals averages would fall below his regular season & playoff numbers.

2001
RS: 29/6/5 46%
PO: 32/7/6 49%
F: 25/8/6 42%

2004
RS: 24/6/5 44%
PO: 25/5/6 42%
F: 23/3/4 38%

2008
RS: 28/6/5 46%
PO: 32/6/6 51%
F: 26/5/5 41%

Ditto his averages from 2000-10 for the regular season, postseason, and Finals

RS: 28/6/5 46%
PO: 28/6/5 45%
F: 25/6/5 41%

Nice cherry picking stats you insecure little f*ggot.


2002:

RS: 25/6/6 47% FG, 54% TS
PO: 27/5/6 43% FG, 51% TS
F: 27/5/6 51% FG, 62% TS


2009:

RS: 27/5/5/ 47% FG, 56% TS
PO: 30/6/5 46% FG, 56% TS
F: 32/7/6/ 43% FG, 53% TS


2010:

RS: 27/5/5/ 46% FG, 55% TS
PO: 29/6/6, 46% FG, 57% TS
F: 29/4/8 41% FG, 53% TS



BTW, all your numbers are off. So it's mad obvious that you've tweaked the numbers a bit to fit your insecure agenda. Exposed.

[IllegalD]

Depends on the usage but those are are some really subpar numbers for anyone with a high usage rate.
Horrific shooting percentage as well.

Not as horrific as LeBron's Finals record % :lebroncry: :lebronamazed:

[Mr Feeny]

Sorry I don't speak team accomplishments.

As far as Kobe goes, he's a horrific finals performer.
A career 41% finals a shooter, a 25% game 7 finals scorer and a 39% elimination game player.
:banana:

[SouBeachTalents]

Nice cherry picking stats you insecure little f*ggot.


2002:

RS: 25/6/6 47% FG, 54% TS
PO: 27/5/6 43% FG, 51% TS
F: 27/5/6 51% FG, 62% TS


2009:

RS: 27/5/5/ 47% FG, 56% TS
PO: 30/6/5 46% FG, 56% TS
F: 32/7/6/ 43% FG, 53% TS


2010:

RS: 27/5/5/ 46% FG, 55% TS
PO: 29/6/6, 46% FG, 57% TS
F: 29/4/8 41% FG, 53% TS



BTW, all your numbers are off. So it's mad obvious that you've tweaked the numbers a bit to fit your insecure agenda. Exposed.

Lol, cue the defensive crying Kobe stan. I didn't say he ALWAYS underperformed in the Finals, but it happened more often than not, as shown by the clear decline in his Finals averages from 2000-10 compared to his regular season & postseason numbers. And those numbers weren't off, the playoff numbers I posted didn't include the Finals, only the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

[NBAGOAT]

Nice cherry picking stats you insecure little f*ggot.


2002:

RS: 25/6/6 47% FG, 54% TS
PO: 27/5/6 43% FG, 51% TS
F: 27/5/6 51% FG, 62% TS


2009:

RS: 27/5/5/ 47% FG, 56% TS
PO: 30/6/5 46% FG, 56% TS
F: 32/7/6/ 43% FG, 53% TS


2010:

RS: 27/5/5/ 46% FG, 55% TS
PO: 29/6/6, 46% FG, 57% TS
F: 29/4/8 41% FG, 53% TS



BTW, all your numbers are off. So it's mad obvious that you've tweaked the numbers a bit to fit your insecure agenda. Exposed.

there's only one person here who's insecure and that's you. Your numbers don't even help Kobe's case that much. 51 TS% while playing with Shaq just isn't that good even if the production is good. Finals were great ofc so I guess that helps your case. 09 and 10 are great playoff runs but there was an obvious dropoff in the Finals. Also curious which numbers he listed were off, be nice of you to point them out.

[IllegalD]

Lol, cue the defensive crying Kobe stan. I didn't say he ALWAYS underperformed in the Finals, but it happened more often than not, as shown by the clear decline in his Finals averages from 2000-10 compared to his regular season & postseason numbers. And those numbers weren't off, the playoff numbers I posted didn't include the Finals, only the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.


You spend more time posting about Kobe than you do about your Wade County f*ggot mancrush. Think about how sad your life is. Good to know that a retired player is still living rentfree in your head and has ruined you psychologically.

:yaohappy:

[IllegalD]

there's only one person here who's insecure and that's you. Your numbers don't even help Kobe's case that much. 51 TS% while playing with Shaq just isn't that good even if the production is good. Finals were great ofc so I guess that helps your case. 09 and 10 are great playoff runs but there was an obvious dropoff in the Finals. Also curious which numbers he listed were off, be nice of you to point them out.


There's no obvious dropoff. You're literally bickering about a couple of % points. Kobe has completely mind****ed you. I know you punched your TV screen and got grounded for yelling at your mom the night he scored 60 in his farewell.

:yaohappy: :lebronamazed:

[NBAGOAT]

There's no obvious dropoff. You're literally bickering about a couple of % points. Kobe has completely mind****ed you. I know you punched your TV screen and got grounded for yelling at your mom the night he scored 60 in his farewell.

:yaohappy: :lebronamazed:

haha I was pretty damn excited and happy when Kobe scored 60 so nice assumption there. Fine not a dropoff in 09, 10 was there however. Jeez what a terrible deflection :oldlol:. When people say "some of the dumbest basketball fans ik are Kobetards" they're talking about people like you.

[Mr Feeny]

Folks let's not forget that Kobe is a 41% finals shooter, a 25% finals game 7 scorer and a 39% elimination game scorer:roll:

[tpols]

It's honestly subpar for a player of Kobe's caliber. Many times his Finals averages would fall below his regular season & playoff numbers.

2001
RS: 29/6/5 46%
PO: 32/7/6 49%
F: 25/8/6 42%

2004
RS: 24/6/5 44%
PO: 25/5/6 42%
F: 23/3/4 38%

2008
RS: 28/6/5 46%
PO: 32/6/6 51%
F: 26/5/5 41%



examine those years you just listed ... thats two larry brown GOAT level defenses and a tom thibadeu defense anchored by KG. Shouldnt be hard to see why the numbers decreased. Lebron had the worst statistical series of his career against 08 boston and that team wasnt as good defensively as the larry brown squads.


Now.. imagine if Kobe got to face the spurs over and over in the Finals, whom he routinely destroyed, or the mavericks who he hung 63 through 3 quarters on when they were a peak contender, or OKC, who he was dropping 40 pt playoff games on despite being a shell of himself. We would be having a totally different discussion.

[catzhernandez]

I had no idea Kobe's stats were so mediocre. How the hell did he go 5/7?

Even Curry who's getting killed right now is a much better performer in the Finals.
I hope you're sitting in a corner right now feeling like the schmuck troll you are. Be gone.

[Smoke117]

examine those years you just listed ... thats two larry brown GOAT level defenses and a tom thibadeu defense anchored by KG. Shouldnt be hard to see why the numbers decreased. Lebron had the worst statistical series of his career against 08 boston and that team wasnt as good defensively as the larry brown squads.


Now.. imagine if Kobe got to face the spurs over and over in the Finals, whom he routinely destroyed, or the mavericks who he hung 63 through 3 quarters on when they were a peak contender, or OKC, who he was dropping 40 pt playoff games on despite being a shell of himself. We would be having a totally different discussion.

lol...the 2001 sixers weren't a GOAT level defensive team. They were very good, but that's just reaching to boost kobe.

[aj1987]

examine those years you just listed ... thats two larry brown GOAT level defenses and a tom thibadeu defense anchored by KG. Shouldnt be hard to see why the numbers decreased. Lebron had the worst statistical series of his career against 08 boston and that team wasnt as good defensively as the larry brown squads.


Now.. imagine if Kobe got to face the spurs over and over in the Finals, whom he routinely destroyed, or the mavericks who he hung 63 through 3 quarters on when they were a peak contender, or OKC, who he was dropping 40 pt playoff games on despite being a shell of himself. We would be having a totally different discussion.
What happened in '09 when he shot 43% or in '10, when he shot 40%. Lets also not forget that he shot 37% in '00 and 41% in '01.

[raprap]

Y'all hating. Top 12 goat haters :pimp:

[toprange]

I had no idea Kobe's stats were so mediocre. How the hell did he go 5/7?

Even Curry who's getting killed right now is a much better performer in the Finals.
Kobe, Shaq and Phil, SACRIFICING NUMBERS, MVPS, COACH OF THE YEAR AWARDS in order to PREPARE their teams to WIN IT ALL multiple times :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ArbitraryWater]

25/6/5 in 7 finals appearances is mediocre? I know the efficiency isn't great but that's all-time great production. The only other guards to produce at a comparable or better level in 25+ finals games are Jordan, Magic, West, and Wade. Including Kobe those are arguably the 5 greatest guards ever. I'd hardly call Kobe a "mediocre" finals performer.

:biggums:

Kobe is by FAR the worst ATG performer in the NBA finals.. I thought this was established? How is he not a bad finals performer? Whats up with the caping for his underwhelming play, always chucking because he wanted the FMVP's so bad? I dont understand fans like you


:lol

yea, thats wrong, Curry too often stays passive throughout the relevant parts of the game and later goes pile up the stat sheet.

[West-Side]

Philly, Nets, Pacers, Pistons, Celtics x2, Magic

That's some ****ing incredible defensive teams he faced!

[Dray n Klay]

Philly, Nets, Pacers, Pistons, Celtics x2, Magic

That's some ****ing incredible defensive teams he faced!



I hope you're f*cking joking...

[West-Side]

I hope you're f*cking joking...

Honestly you should seriously get banned.
Your stupidity is infecting the rest of the posters.

Philly - 5th
Nets - 1st
Pistons - 2nd
Celtics - 1st (2008)
Magic - 1st
Celtics - 2nd

That is Kobe's opponents DRTG ranking during the years he faced them.
Pacers were ranked 13th but Kobe was injured in that series. He twisted his ankle in like the 2nd game and played hurt for the rest of the series, even missed a game.

Look at how good the rest of his opponents were.

So no, I'm not ****ing "joking"... please educate yourself about the NBA.

[SouBeachTalents]

Philly, Nets, Pacers, Pistons, Celtics x2, Magic

That's some ****ing incredible defensive teams he faced!

But I thought the 2000's East was the "worst conference of all time"?

[West-Side]

But I thought the 2000's East was the "worst conference of all time"?

The east during James prime has been weak as hell (10' to 16').
James had his shit pushed in by the same Celtics, Kobe faced. James did play great against Orlando but couldn't beat them. Kobe finished them off in 5 games while putting up great all around numbers too.

Funny how he never managed to make the NBA finals from 08-10'; surprisingly, it was the 08' Celtics, 09' Magic & 10' Celtics. :roll:

I'm exhausted from kicking people's shit in on this forum.

You guys just have weak comprehension skills.

All I'm trying to do is educate some of you young fans about the level of competition Kobe actually faced in the finals. 5/7 of those teams were either 1st or 2nd in DRTG in the league. :facepalm

[Magic 32]

losing the championship at home 4 times.

yikes

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kobe's always been an average/below average finals performer (for his standards), although has been great against some of the powerhouse teams out West like the Spurs who many individuals struggle against.

Of all the top 10-12 greats, I'm pretty sure he's the worst FINALS player. Jerry West has the worst W/L percentage but his individual numbers are pretty solid.

[Derivative]

The east during James prime has been weak as hell (10' to 16').
James had his shit pushed in by the same Celtics, Kobe faced. James did play great against Orlando but couldn't beat them. Kobe finished them off in 5 games while putting up great all around numbers too.

Funny how he never managed to make the NBA finals from 08-10'; surprisingly, it was the 08' Celtics, 09' Magic & 10' Celtics. :roll:

I'm exhausted from kicking people's shit in on this forum.

You guys just have weak comprehension skills.

All I'm trying to do is educate some of you young fans about the level of competition Kobe actually faced in the finals. 5/7 of those teams were either 1st or 2nd in DRTG in the league. :facepalm


Against the 09 Orlando Magic in the playoffs:

Lebron averaged 38.5ppg, 8.3rpg, 8.0apg, 1.2spg, 1.2bpg, on 48.7%FG

Kobe averaged 32.4ppg, 5.6rpg, 7.4apg, 1.4spg, 1.4bpg on 43.0% FG


it's a team game

[West-Side]

Kobe's always been an average/below average finals performer (for his standards), although has been great against some of the powerhouse teams out West like the Spurs who many individuals struggle against.

Of all the top 10-12 greats, I'm pretty sure he's the worst FINALS player. Jerry West has the worst W/L percentage but his individual numbers are pretty solid.

I remember rhythmic posting Jordan, LeBron & Kobe's competition in their respective final match-ups and absolutely roasted every one of you haters.

I don't have the patience to do what he did, byt just take my word for it. Kobe faced WAY tougher defensive teams than either LeBron & Jordan did.

And the sad part is LeBron's #'s are pretty damn pathetic in the finals, despite facing easier defensive teams.

The 07' Spurs and the 08' Celtics absolutely ripped his asshole apart. That's about the same caliber of defense Kobe faced 5 out of the 7 finals.

One of them he was injured as well (2000).

[West-Side]

Against the 09 Orlando Magic in the playoffs:

Lebron averaged 38.5ppg, 8.3rpg, 8.0apg, 1.2spg, 1.2bpg, on 48.7%FG

Kobe averaged 32.4ppg, 5.6rpg, 7.4apg, 1.4spg, 1.4bpg on 43.0% FG


it's a team game

What part of "too" did you not understand?
I never blamed LeBron's performance against Orlando. It was one of his best series of his career. It was unfortunate he didn't get to face Kobe in the NBA finals that year. Would have been a much closer series, IMO.

Both Kobe & LeBron put up great numbers against a pretty solid defensive squad in Orlando.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I remember rhythmic posting Jordan, LeBron & Kobe's competition in their respective final match-ups and absolutely roasted every one of you haters.

I don't have the patience to do what he did, byt just take my word for it. Kobe faced WAY tougher defensive teams than either LeBron & Jordan did.

And the sad part is LeBron's #'s are pretty damn pathetic in the finals, despite facing easier defensive teams.

The 07' Spurs and the 08' Celtics absolutely ripped his asshole apart. That's about the same caliber of defense Kobe faced 5 out of the 7 finals.

One of them he was injured as well (2000).

I remember that thread too.

After posting bullsh*t you ran away with your tail tucked between your legs, "rhythmic". :oldlol:

[West-Side]

I remember that thread too.

After posting bullsh*t you ran away with your tail tucked between your legs, "rhythmic". :oldlol:

Oh god, now I'm rhythmic. :roll:
Can you ever get anything right on this forum?

One of the biggest morons on here, no doubt.
With your post count, it's amazing how much of your stupidity your spread to others on here.

Welcome to ignore.

[ImKobe]

lol he was injured in 2000 and 2004 and his team got annihilated in 2008 because the Lakers were missing Bynum and Ariza

the Finals he did win and when he was healthy:

2001 25/8/6 42%FG
2002 27/6/5 51%FG 55% 3PT
2009 32/6/7 43%FG
2010 29/8/4 41%FG

2000 he was obviously injured, but still had an impact in big moments that go beyond his boxscore averages, like when he sealed a 3 - 1 series win on the road with Shaq fouled out or when he hit one clutch shot/ft after another in Game 6 after a slow start to close out the series.

His best Playoff games/moments usually came in the WCF, when he faced superior teams like Duncan's Spurs or Webber's Kings or the years he went up against Melo and Billups and Deron/Boozer in their primes.

that being said, he had 1-2 bad shooting nights in his Finals so his average FG% is low, 2010 he has 26/11/3 with 4 stls on 47% shooting in Game 6 (also an elimination game for the Lakers) but no one remembers that, or how he had 38/5/4 on 48% shooting the previous game or 33 on 46% the game before that, they only remember his worst shooting night

plus, he played with injuries both in 2009 and 2010, 2009 Lebron broke his finger 2010 he had his knee drained mid-playoffs

if Wade had the same career as Kobe he would be loved more.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Oh god, now I'm rhythmic. :roll:
Can you ever get anything right on this forum?

One of the biggest morons on here, no doubt.
With your post count, it's amazing how much of your stupidity your spread to others on here.

Welcome to ignore.

Judging by the number of accounts you have on here, I'm surprised you're not locked up in a padded cell. :oldlol:

lol @ giving yourself a pat on the back. Goofy motherf*cker.

[Wade's Rings]

examine those years you just listed ... thats two larry brown GOAT level defenses and a tom thibadeu defense anchored by KG. Shouldnt be hard to see why the numbers decreased. Lebron had the worst statistical series of his career against 08 boston and that team wasnt as good defensively as the larry brown squads.


Now.. imagine if Kobe got to face the spurs over and over in the Finals, whom he routinely destroyed, or the mavericks who he hung 63 through 3 quarters on when they were a peak contender, or OKC, who he was dropping 40 pt playoff games on despite being a shell of himself. We would be having a totally different discussion.

The East usually has the best defenses in the League, if Kobe was out East he would've been facing much better defenses.

Just using Wade as an example, in '05 he faced the 4th & 5th best defense, in '06 he faced the 4th, 5th, and 6th best defenses, in '07 he faced the best defense in the league, in '10 he faced the 5th best defense, in '11 he faced the best, 2nd best, and the 10th ranked defense out East.

Also, only the '04 Pistons and '08 Celtics were GOAT level defenses. The '01 Sixers, '02 Nets, and the '10 Celtics were good/great defenses but not GOAT level.

Could you imagine if Wade was facing the Mavs, the Suns, Jazz, etc out west?

[riseagainst]

Not everyone can be LeBron.


who would want to go 2/7 in the finals instead of 5/7?

:biggums:

[NBASTATMAN]

Sorry I don't speak team accomplishments.

As far as Kobe goes, he's a horrific finals performer.
A career 41% finals a shooter, a 25% game 7 finals scorer and a 39% elimination game player.
:banana:


I HAVE HIM TOP 10 IN MY ALL TIME LIST.. I MAY HAVE TO RECONSIDER... I knew the he had low shooting percentages in finals but not the other stats... :facepalm

Maybe that is why they rated him 12th... In all fairness LEBRON should not be top 5 if Kobe is around 12th... More like 10-13 for lebron

[branslowski]

The fact that non Kobe fans continue to make Kobe threads to bash him is all you need to know. The Greater you are...

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe fans and excuses that the Pacers/Sixers/Nets/Magic were too good defensively :lol

Even against the Pistons he got locked down in single coverage by Rip and Tayshaun Prince :lol

[TrueBlue89]

Kobe fans and excuses that the Pacers/Sixers/Nets/Magic were too good defensively :lol

Even against the Pistons he got locked down in single coverage by Rip and Tayshaun Prince :lol


:applause:

[Hoopz2332]

yuck:milton

[Mr Feeny]

My God those are horrific numbers:roll:

[Dray n Klay]

LeBrons 3 worst Finals stats (including his 2007 and 2011):

22/9/7 on 45%




Don't know about you, but 22/9/7 on 45% >>> 25/6/5 on 41%




HOLY SHIT, LEBRONS 3 WORST FINALS STATS ARE BETTER THAN KOBE'S CAREER!!


:roll: :roll: :roll: :banana: :banana:





Kobe stans have NO answer to this lmao.









But then again, LeBron had more 40 point Finals in 3 days than Kobe had in 20 years, the gap between them is MASSIVE

[Mr Feeny]

LeBrons 3 worst Finals stats (including his 2007 and 2011):

22/9/7 on 45%




Don't know about you, but 22/9/7 on 45% >>> 25/6/5 on 41%




HOLY SHIT, LEBRONS 3 WORST FINALS STATS ARE BETTER THAN KOBE'S CAREER!!


:roll: :banana: :banana:





Kobe stans have NO answer to this lmao.









But then again, LeBron had more 40 point Finals in 3 days than Kobe had in 20 years, the gap between them is MASSIVE

This can't be true:roll: :roll:

[Dray n Klay]

This can't be true:roll: :roll:


Lebrons 3 worst finals, including his 2007 as a 22 year old with 0 help and the 2011 finals where people say he 'choked' is STILL better than Kobe's career :roll:




THERES NOTHING KOBE STANS CAN SAY TO COME BACK FROM THIS




:yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:

[Dray n Klay]

KOBE IS SOOO BAD LMAO :roll:

[Jasper]

shaq carried him = OP :oldlol: :oldlol:

[feyki]

27 , 6 , 5 , 1.9 , 0.8 , 3.6 , %52

In his prime against toughest opponents other than any superstar since 80's .

[SwayDizzle]

Sorry I don't speak team accomplishments.

As far as Kobe goes, he's a horrific finals performer.
A career 41% finals a shooter, a 25% game 7 finals scorer and a 39% elimination game player.
:banana:
shut up feeny