Cavs lobbied to have Draymond suspended for TWO games

[tpols]

link (https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/743461657372811266)

:facepalm

[miggyme1]

Might be the saddest thing ive heard in my life. So desperate to win a ring the easy way. Its been the story of lebrons career. smh


Nba has to change this rule

[Ben Simmons]

He should have been.

A shot at the nuts is usually a flagrant and suspension. They only gave him a flagrant, but he was suspended because of his flagrant point count. He should have been suspended for the shot at the nuts and then again for his flagrant points.

I know people hate Lebron, but really the league has been giving Draymond too many chances they didnt give anyone else.

[Haymaker]

I know people hate Lebron, but really the league has been giving Draymond too many chances they didnt give anyone else.

This

[warriorfan]

leshortcut

lebaby

lecry

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[oh the horror]

I don't care what any of you say. This is absolutely pathetic.



Think about that for a moment.

[riseagainst]

the fix is in.

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[STATUTORY]

triple asterisks imo

[ImKobe]

lmfao, can't win it the honest way

last year you went 6 games and I thought it was "but but Kyrie and Love were injured"

now you want Warriors to lose their FMVP for 2 games?

pathetic

[Gileraracer]

honorless b itches

[bigkingsfan]

They'll settle for game 7 suspension.

[scuzzy]

I'm the first poster who isn't a crying Kobe/Laker fan in this thread :lol :lol :roll:

[hold this L]

Cavs are pathetic. Hopefully Warriors close it out at the Q again. Same time last year, all over again.

[warriorfan]

I'm the first poster who isn't a Non-crying Kobe/Laker fan in this thread :lol :lol :roll:

First virgin too :applause:

[Gileraracer]

First virgin too :applause:

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[scuzzy]

First virgin too :applause:


Yo Momma jokes :applause:


"pee pee"

"poo poo"

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[STATUTORY]

Yo Momma jokes :applause:


"pee pee"

"poo poo"

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somebody's feeling's hurt :lol

[dazzer87]

First virgin too :applause:
:lol

[Unreal234]

Lebron's solution to adverse circumstances? Cry and complain until the league gives you what you want: less adverse circumstances. I lost a lot of respect for him.

[NBAGOAT]

well when you're down 3-1, you're going be pretty desperate. Pathetic move but other teams have called for suspensions before in playoff series so it's not that new.

[HurricaneKid]

They pushed the league for two in an attempt to make sure they at least got 1. No one thinks the league was EVER going to give multiple games for that.

But LOL at everyone saying he shouldn't have been suspended. He should have been suspended 2 games for the ridiculous kick and another game for the dirtiest play I've ever seen where he tried to rip Adams arm out of the socket on the play later in the series.

When you are the dirtiest player of a generation you don't ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt. The fact that he had up to G4 was comical. And the folks defending the dick hunter is comical.

[miggyme1]

He should have been.

A shot at the nuts is usually a flagrant and suspension. They only gave him a flagrant, but he was suspended because of his flagrant point count. He should have been suspended for the shot at the nuts and then again for his flagrant points.

I know people hate Lebron, but really the league has been giving Draymond too many chances they didnt give anyone else.

Maybe but you don't suspend a key player in a nba finals. Nba loses its integrity when they do crap like that. If its supposed to be fair and square...


I have no problem fining draymond a hefty price and making him sit out half of next season if need be but a nba finals game??? what if the warriors were down 3-1???? Its stupid....hell what if it was 2-2....we all know game 5s are very pivotal in the playoffs.

I just don't agree with gimping a team and now look, bogut out for the rest of the series. Its so many variable that have to go your way to win a ring like being healthy so for the league to think that its a good idea to suspend a player which can potentially change the outcome of a series......is trash.

[Jameerthefear]

The NBA didn't go out and suspend Draymond. They gave him a flagrant foul that auto-suspended him. I have no idea why people are so upset about this after all the antics Green has been up to during the playoffs.

[NuggetsFan]

I don't care what any of you say. This is absolutely pathetic.



Think about that for a moment.

It's pathetic that some NBA fans treat the game like it's fcking wresting or some soap opera. LeBron is whiny and self entitled no doubt. Everyone knows that. Says hilariously stupid shit at times. Green tho has been dirty all season. He took a swipe at a dudes package AFTER he got away with the same bullshit a series earlier. If this wasn't the finals he would get 2 games. 1 game suspension and 1 for the bullshit flagrant rule the NBA has.

I know the hate/obsession is strong with guys like LeBron, Kobe, MJ, Curry etc. etc. but when the fck did people start getting upset that nut shots get punished? .. that use to be like the one no go no matter where the game was. Park, gym, NBA, college. You don't take shots at that area, period.

It's actually kinda hilarious it happened between the NBA's love child. The Warriors and LeBron James. OKC fans are the one's who should feel pissed off because apparently there not important enough for the NBA to give a shit.

[Ben Simmons]

Maybe but you don't suspend a key player in a nba finals. Nba loses its integrity when they do crap like that. If its supposed to be fair and square...


I have no problem fining draymond a hefty price and making him sit out half of next season if need be but a nba finals game??? what if the warriors were down 3-1???? Its stupid....hell what if it was 2-2....we all know game 5s are very pivotal in the playoffs.

I just don't agree with gimping a team and now look, bogut out for the rest of the series. Its so many variable that have to go your way to win a ring like being healthy so for the league to think that its a good idea to suspend a player which can potentially change the outcome of a series......is trash.
They didnt suspend him like they were suppose to.

They gave him a flagrant foul. He was suspended because of flagrant foul points.

If the nba was consistent he should have been suspended for the nut shot and then again for the flagrant points.

The nba let him off and yet idots are talking about rigged. :facepalm

[tpols]

It's pathetic that some NBA fans treat the game like it's fcking wresting or some soap opera. LeBron is whiny and self entitled no doubt. Everyone knows that. Says hilariously stupid shit at times. Green tho has been dirty all season. He took a swipe at a dudes package AFTER he got away with the same bullshit a series earlier. If this wasn't the finals he would get 2 games. 1 game suspension and 1 for the bullshit flagrant rule the NBA has.

I know the hate/obsession is strong with guys like LeBron, Kobe, MJ, Curry etc. etc. but when the fck did people start getting upset that nut shots get punished? .. that use to be like the one no go no matter where the game was. Park, gym, NBA, college. You don't take shots at that area, period.

It's actually kinda hilarious it happened between the NBA's love child. The Warriors and LeBron James. OKC fans are the one's who should feel pissed off because apparently there not important enough for the NBA to give a shit.


all bets are off when you put your nuts on another mans back as he tries to get up .. be real. that's the thing about you guys, you act like green just socked bran in the nuts out of nowhere like he did adams. he didnt, it was provoked by the other team when desperation and reality of 1-3 hit.. and has been used as a cheap bargaining chip to swing the series.

[HurricaneKid]

Maybe but you don't suspend a key player in a nba finals. Nba loses its integrity when they do crap like that. If its supposed to be fair and square...


I have no problem fining draymond a hefty price and making him sit out half of next season if need be but a nba finals game??? what if the warriors were down 3-1???? Its stupid....hell what if it was 2-2....we all know game 5s are very pivotal in the playoffs.

I just don't agree with gimping a team and now look, bogut out for the rest of the series. Its so many variable that have to go your way to win a ring like being healthy so for the league to think that its a good idea to suspend a player which can potentially change the outcome of a series......is trash.

No, the NBA loses credibility when it allows a player to target the nuts of the opposition. Repeatedly. Without penalty.

The NBA is the only league that actually looks forward. Having to explain to kids why a guy was able, on multiple occasions, to hit the opposition in the nethers is bad for the game.

For my money he should have been suspended for several OTHER games as well.

[hold this L]

They didnt suspend him like they were suppose to.

They gave him a flagrant foul. He was suspended because of flagrant foul points.

If the nba was consistent he should have been suspended for the nut shot and then again for the flagrant points.

The nba let him off and yet idots are talking about rigged. :facepalm
Are you another one of the idiots whose made yet another alt? I can understand if you're a fan of Lebron why you would write two game suspension, but you would have to be a special kind of a moron to believe that otherwise.

[NBAGOAT]

Maybe but you don't suspend a key player in a nba finals. Nba loses its integrity when they do crap like that. If its supposed to be fair and square...


I have no problem fining draymond a hefty price and making him sit out half of next season if need be but a nba finals game??? what if the warriors were down 3-1???? Its stupid....hell what if it was 2-2....we all know game 5s are very pivotal in the playoffs.

I just don't agree with gimping a team and now look, bogut out for the rest of the series. Its so many variable that have to go your way to win a ring like being healthy so for the league to think that its a good idea to suspend a player which can potentially change the outcome of a series......is trash.

technically, suspending someone during a playoff game would hurt them just as much. Quite a few teams have actually been screwed by suspensions in the playoffs. Suns in 07 and both Knicks and Heat in the 90's. Unless you were a fan of one of those teams, the uproar pretty much died after a few weeks.

[NuggetsFan]

all bets are off when you put your nuts on another mans back as he tries to get up .. be real. that's the thing about you guys, you act like green just socked bran in the nuts out of nowhere like he did adams. he didnt, it was provoked by the other team when desperation and reality of 1-3 hit.. and has been used as a cheap bargaining chip to swing the series.

LeBron stepped over him. Iverson stepped over Lue. Tons of players step over people through out the season, sometimes by accident even. LeBron stepped over and no doubt he's a punk. After the fact Green swiped at his nuts. Get up and get upset, call him on his bullshit or whatever most NBA players and people just in general would do. Green isn't most tho, he's dirty and swiped at nuts and got suspended. I mean there's clear video. After the OKC series what was the NBA suppose to do? Green got too greedy. He got away with one earlier and this time he didn't. Had it not been game 5 of the finals he'd probably be sitting for 2 games.

People are just blinded by the obsession of individuals on this site. I don't like either parties. LeBron or the Warriors. Takes a special kinda of dude to defend or justify an attempt at hitting someone in the sack tho :oldlol:

[Ben Simmons]

Are you another one of the idiots whose made yet another alt? I can understand if you're a fan of Lebron why you would write two game suspension, but you would have to be a special kind of a moron to believe that otherwise.
Im not an alt. And this has nothing to do with Lebron.

You guys are letting Lebron cloud your judgment.

Anytime you swing at a players nuts you get a suspension and a flagrant. Even if it is on accident. Draymond not only has done this about 3 times, this is the third time he wasnt actually punished. Luckily he accumulated points, but really they let him off. AGAIN.

[riseagainst]

First virgin too :applause:


savage....

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[Ben Simmons]

all bets are off when you put your nuts on another mans back as he tries to get up .. be real. that's the thing about you guys, you act like green just socked bran in the nuts out of nowhere like he did adams. he didnt, it was provoked by the other team when desperation and reality of 1-3 hit.. and has been used as a cheap bargaining chip to swing the series.
What are you even arguing? Lebron stepping over him doesnt mean he still shouldnt be punished like every other nut shot

[tpols]

LeBron stepped over him. Iverson stepped over Lue. Tons of players step over people through out the season, sometimes by accident even. LeBron stepped over and no doubt he's a punk. After the fact Green swiped at his nuts. Get up and get upset, call him on his bullshit or whatever most NBA players and people just in general would do. Green isn't most tho, he's dirty and swiped at nuts and got suspended. I mean there's clear video. After the OKC series what was the NBA suppose to do? Green got too greedy. He got away with one earlier and this time he didn't. Had it not been game 5 of the finals he'd probably be sitting for 2 games.

People are just blinded by the obsession of individuals on this site. I don't like either parties. LeBron or the Warriors. Takes a special kinda of dude to defend or justify an attempt at hitting someone in the sack tho :oldlol:


yup..

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"tons of players" dont do this throughout the season. I'd be shocked if you could show me even one video of somebody doing this out of frustration and in this particular manner. lmao. that is an extreme exxageration. And it could be taken from that gif that all green was trying to do was push bron off of him.. as any man would do if confronted with that situation.

there's a reason all ex-players are calling bron and the cavs out for this.. they understand the context. you guys dont, at all.

[NuggetsFan]

all bets are off when you put your nuts on another mans back as he tries to get up .. be real. that's the thing about you guys, you act like green just socked bran in the nuts out of nowhere like he did adams. he didnt, it was provoked by the other team when desperation and reality of 1-3 hit.. and has been used as a cheap bargaining chip to swing the series.

By the way it's pretty much the most common tactic across all sports. Try and get a reaction out of the opposition and get them to do something stupid. CB's do it to WR's, happens in hockey etc. NBA happens less IMO because there's no flags or a penalty box. Just fouls during actual game play.

All Green had to do is avoid the sack area and he wins. LeBron looks like a punk. No momentum change. Instead he took a swing at the one area that 90% of dude's agree isn't cool and got himself suspended. LeBron was trying to mess with Curry at the end and Curry played it smart like most. Green is just an idiot who's use to getting away with everything including bullshit screens. If it was Irving instead of LeBron we'd all be agreeing Green was an idiot. LeBron/Kobe/MJ/Wilt or whatever superstar makes some people irrational.

[miggyme1]

They didnt suspend him like they were suppose to.

They gave him a flagrant foul. He was suspended because of flagrant foul points.

If the nba was consistent he should have been suspended for the nut shot and then again for the flagrant points.

The nba let him off and yet idots are talking about rigged. :facepalm


omfg I wrote a paragraph and yet this idiot comprehended NOTHING. let me simplify it.



SUSPENSIONS DURING PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE HELD UNTIL THE FOLLOWING SEASON.......SHOULD BE A HEFTY FINE FOR THE TIME BEING THEN THE FOLLOWING SEASON...............I REPEAT......THE FOLLOWING SEASON THE PLAYER SHOULD SERVE THEIR SUSPENSION.

:facepalm :facepalm

[Just2McFly]

LeBron stepped over him. Iverson stepped over Lue. Tons of players step over people through out the season, sometimes by accident even. LeBron stepped over and no doubt he's a punk. After the fact Green swiped at his nuts. Get up and get upset, call him on his bullshit or whatever most NBA players and people just in general would do. Green isn't most tho, he's dirty and swiped at nuts and got suspended. I mean there's clear video. After the OKC series what was the NBA suppose to do? Green got too greedy. He got away with one earlier and this time he didn't. Had it not been game 5 of the finals he'd probably be sitting for 2 games.

People are just blinded by the obsession of individuals on this site. I don't like either parties. LeBron or the Warriors. Takes a special kinda of dude to defend or justify an attempt at hitting someone in the sack tho :oldlol:

Well said.

[IcanzIIravor]

I've no problem with this. Draymond realistically should have been suspended a game in the OKC series for his antics. If I am a Cavs player I am shopping for a good solid cup to wear for game 6. Draymond has touched so many nuts this playoff I imagine he is makes NBA groupies take notes.

[NuggetsFan]

yup..

http://i.giphy.com/YIRGSovpVlhxS.gif


"tons of players" dont do this throughout the season. I'd be shocked if you could show me even one video of somebody doing this out of frustration and in this particular manner. lmao. that is an extreme exxageration. And it could be taken from that gif that all green was trying to do was push bron off of him.. as any man would do if confronted with that situation.

there's a reason all ex-players are calling bron and the cavs out for this.. they understand the context. you guys dont, at all.

I don't have videos because plays like that without a reaction aren't important enough for people to search for them. It's the finals and LeBron/Green so it's a big deal. Nurkic does tons of shit like that to players. Iverson did it to Lue and everyone loved it. Guys walk over players on the court after fouls and it's usually an accident. LeBron did it intentionally because he's a punk. Green should have just confronted him. Not played into his bullshit. It's Green tho so he pulled something even dirtier and fcked his team.

That's one angle. A pretty ****ing poor one. Nobody should deny he swung at his package. There's multiple angles that show him doing it.

[hold this L]

Im not an alt. And this has nothing to do with Lebron.

You guys are letting Lebron cloud your judgment.

Anytime you swing at a players nuts you get a suspension and a flagrant. Even if it is on accident. Draymond not only has done this about 3 times, this is the third time he wasnt actually punished. Luckily he accumulated points, but really they let him off. AGAIN.
I'm not letting Lebron cloud my judgement, your argument is just awful. If we go 1:1 for every rule, the game would be played extremely differently. Especially in the playoffs. If handchecking worked as it did, Steph would probably shoot around 10 FTs more. Lebron would get a few fouls inside the paint, and would get travel calls on top of offensive fouls. Trashtalking would mean players would get fouls on a regular basis etc etc. It would be an awful sport to watch. You sound like the Spok dude from Star Trek that doesn't understand anything unless it's the literal term.

[tmacattack33]

Good.

Coaches every year make comments lobbying to the refs to get them to make certain calls every year.

Nash wanted Bowen/Horry or whoever it was that hip checked him suspended.

The Colts want Tom Brady suspended to start next year.



The OP making this thread is just proof of what Lebron can do to someone's brain.

[HurricaneKid]

all bets are off when you put your nuts on another mans back as he tries to get up .. be real. that's the thing about you guys, you act like green just socked bran in the nuts out of nowhere like he did adams. he didnt, it was provoked by the other team when desperation and reality of 1-3 hit.. and has been used as a cheap bargaining chip to swing the series.

If Kobe had done it, you would have called it alpha for picking on a weak minded opponent.

[Ben Simmons]

I'm not letting Lebron cloud my judgement, your argument is just awful. If we go 1:1 for every rule, the game would be played extremely differently. Especially in the playoffs. If handchecking worked as it did, Steph would probably shoot around 10 FTs more. Lebron would get a few fouls inside the paint, and would get travel calls on top of offensive fouls. Trashtalking would mean players would get fouls on a regular basis etc etc. It would be an awful sport to watch. You sound like the Spok dude from Star Trek that doesn't understand anything unless it's the literal term.

Stupid. There is a difference between in game calls and ones that the league reviews and checks.

It would be an awful sport to watch if the nba was consistent in how they assign punishments after a game? So basically you want them to rig it based on whim? That's basically what they have done to Draymond. Give him pass after pass after pass. They even gave him another 1 by suspending him for flagrant points instead of the suspension that they give other players for nut shots.

[hold this L]

Stupid. There is a difference between in game calls and ones that the league reviews and checks.
The only stupid thing is the mental gymnastics you go through.

[Tarik One]

I mean, I'm sure they did. Why wouldn't they?

[Ben Simmons]

The only stupid thing is the mental gymnastics you go through.
You're the one making mental gymnastics. You basically argued you want the nba to review a foul and then rig the outcome instead of being consistent.

[Nilocon165]

DAMN This thread is swarming with top notch retards.

Bottom line is Draymond shouldn't have even been suspended for one game.

[Ben Simmons]

DAMN This thread is swarming with top notch retards.

Bottom line is Draymond shouldn't have even been suspended for one game.
Why? Every nut shot is assigned a flagrant whether on purpose or on accident.

Draymond only got a flagrant. He would have been fine, but he committed too many flagrants.

What's the logic for trying to rig the league for Draymond and the Warriors? Why is it everyone else gets suspended but he only consistently gets flagrants?

[bdreason]

First it was, "if you can't beat them, join them".

Now it's, "if you can't beat them, get them suspended."


Whatever happened to just playing your best, and living with the results? I guess the pressure of the social media era is just too much for some athletes to handle.

[SexSymbol]

Childish.
All champions talk a bout wanting to beat the competition at their very best.
Meanwhile, Cavs hope for injuries and suspensions.
This is pathetic in every way.

[kamil]

LeBron* is the ULTIMATE SCUMBAG.

Just wow, what a piece of shit.

[Tarik One]

Why? Every nut shot is assigned a flagrant whether on purpose or on accident.

Draymond only got a flagrant. He would have been fine, but he committed too many flagrants.

What's the logic for trying to rig the league for Draymond and the Warriors? Why is it everyone else gets suspended but he only consistently gets flagrants?
People don't understand the concept of "skating on thin ice".

If you have a track record of offenses, that means if you commit even the slightest of an offense there will be severe consequences.

[kamil]

Childish.
All champions talk a bout wanting to beat the competition at their very best.
Meanwhile, Cavs hope for injuries and suspensions.
This is pathetic in every way.

LeBron* not only doesnt want to beat the competition, he JOINS IT.

#LeBitch

[SexSymbol]

LeBron* not only doesnt want to beat the competition, he JOINS IT.

#LeBitch
the sad thing is that some people consider this hating, when this is just stating a clear fact

[Lebron23]

He's a dirty player.

[Hey Yo]

Maybe but you don't suspend a key player in a nba finals. Nba loses its integrity when they do crap like that. If its supposed to be fair and square...


I have no problem fining draymond a hefty price and making him sit out half of next season if need be but a nba finals game??? what if the warriors were down 3-1???? Its stupid....hell what if it was 2-2....we all know game 5s are very pivotal in the playoffs.

I just don't agree with gimping a team and now look, bogut out for the rest of the series. Its so many variable that have to go your way to win a ring like being healthy so for the league to think that its a good idea to suspend a player which can potentially change the outcome of a series......is trash.
Silver was on the Dan Patrick show this morning. He said just the opposite.

First said that getting deliberately hit in the head or nuts, the league treats that differently than other body parts.

Second, said that with all that's gone on with Drayfag, they had no choice to upgrade the James nut shot to a flagrant cause the ref's didn't see it on the court. So if they DIDN'T suspend him, then the league would have lost integrity by not following the rules and been accused of favortism towards GSW.

[Hey Yo]

DAMN This thread is swarming with top notch retards.

Bottom line is Draymond shouldn't have even been suspended for one game.
Your schtick has run it's course.......a week ago.

[hold this L]

You're the one making mental gymnastics. You basically argued you want the nba to review a foul and then rig the outcome instead of being consistent.
The NBA has never been consistent. My point is clearly that they never make calls 1:1 as they should otherwise the sport would be as awful to watch as baseball. You're an idiot and an alt though, which is why you're purposely ignoring my point. At least this time around, you're not spelling like you haven't gotten out of elementary school, so it's an improvement. :applause:

[bdreason]

Silver was on the Dan Patrick show this morning. He said just the opposite.

First said that getting deliberately hit in the head or nuts, the league treats that differently than other body parts.

Second, said that with all that's gone on with Drayfag, they had no choice to upgrade the James nut shot to a flagrant cause the ref's didn't see it on the court. So if they DIDN'T suspend him, then the league would have lost integrity by not following the rules and been accused of favortism towards GSW.


Then the league needs to review entire games for missed calls. LeBron landed a forearm to Curry's throat that was not a basketball play. It should have been called an offensive foul, and it was easily more dangerous than DrayGod's swipe at LeBron after getting tea-bagged. That means LeBron should have been assessed 2 technicals for game 4, and he should have been suspended for game 5.

Like I said about the NBA's final 2-minute report; it's a slippery slope when you start trying to retroactively officiate games.

[HurricaneKid]

SUSPENSIONS DURING PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE HELD UNTIL THE FOLLOWING SEASON.......SHOULD BE A HEFTY FINE FOR THE TIME BEING THEN THE FOLLOWING SEASON...............I REPEAT......THE FOLLOWING SEASON THE PLAYER SHOULD SERVE THEIR SUSPENSION.

:facepalm :facepalm

I've long thought this was the best way forward. The problem is that a lot of F1s and F2s lead to injuries. So you are literally REWARDING players for taking out the opposition and giving them a little time off in November.

You just have to use the leverage of missing playoffs in order to make sure guys don't tackle players in the air, kick them in the nethers, or hitting them in the nethers (and that's just Dray!).

[kamil]

Silver was on the Dan Patrick show this morning. He said just the opposite.

First said that getting deliberately hit in the head or nuts, the league treats that differently than other body parts.

Second, said that with all that's gone on with Drayfag, they had no choice to upgrade the James nut shot to a flagrant cause the ref's didn't see it on the court. So if they DIDN'T suspend him, then the league would have lost integrity by not following the rules and been accused of favortism towards GSW.

Right.... deliberately.

[bdreason]

I've long thought this was the best way forward. The problem is that a lot of F1s and F2s lead to injuries. So you are literally REWARDING players for taking out the opposition and giving them a little time off in November.

You just have to use the leverage of missing playoffs in order to make sure guys don't tackle players in the air, kick them in the nethers, or hitting them in the nethers (and that's just Dray!).


And so the new strategy is to have role-players take cheap shots at star players until they retaliate. There's a reason the Cavs added Dahntay Jones right before the playoffs started, and it wasn't because he's good at basketball. Not surprisingly he punched Biyombo in the nuts, and then LeBron paid his fine.

[HurricaneKid]

Right.... deliberately.

So he "accidentally" kneed, punted, and punched players in the nuts in the last 3 weeks?

That's either really really bad luck or the dirtiest SOB ever. And its not luck.

[HurricaneKid]

And so the new strategy is to have role-players take cheap shots at star players until they retaliate. There's a reason the Cavs added Dahntay Jones right before the playoffs started, and it wasn't because he's good at basketball. Not surprisingly he punched Biyombo in the nuts, and then LeBron paid his fine.

BTW, if we are combining the Dray cheap shots with the jones one, the Jones is at best #5. So saying that Dray shouldn't have gotten any suspension at all is pretty absurd.

[kamil]

So he "accidentally" kneed, punted, and punched players in the nuts in the last 3 weeks?

That's either really really bad luck or the dirtiest SOB ever. And its not luck.

Explain how that's relevant.

[Hey Yo]

First it was, "if you can't beat them, join them".

Now it's, "if you can't beat them, get them suspended."


Whatever happened to just playing your best, and living with the results? I guess the pressure of the social media era is just too much for some athletes to handle.
:rolleyes:

From the link in post #1

[QUOTE]The league got it right. The retroactively assigned flagrant 1 triggered a one-game suspension due to Green

[HurricaneKid]

Explain how that's relevant.

How are prior facts in evidence relevant?

Is that a serious question?

[bdreason]

BTW, if we are combining the Dray cheap shots with the jones one, the Jones is at best #5. So saying that Dray shouldn't have gotten any suspension at all is pretty absurd.


Players should be suspended based on the calls during the game. DrayGod wasn't even called for a foul in the game, yet the league reviewed that particular play, and changed it from NO foul, to a flagrant.

All I'm saying is you can't pick and choose what plays you're going to review and change. If I reviewed every second of every game, I could call fouls, flagrants, and technicals on lots of different plays. Like I said earlier, an elbow that LeBron landed to Curry's throat in game 4 was clearly a more dangerous foul. That would have been 2 technicals against LeBron in a single game, and since he wasn't ejected, he should have been suspended for game 5.

I'm not saying I wanted LeBron suspended. In fact, the last thing I would want is LeBron suspended in a Finals game. What I'm saying is it's a slippery slope to start retroactively officiating games.

[HurricaneKid]

Players should be suspended based on the calls during the game. DrayGod wasn't even called for a foul in the game, yet the league reviewed that particular play, and changed it from NO foul, to a flagrant.

All I'm saying is you can't pick and choose what plays you're going to review and change. If I reviewed every second of every game, I could call fouls, flagrants, and technicals on lots of different plays. Like I said earlier, an elbow that LeBron landed to Curry's throat in game 4 was clearly a more dangerous foul. That would have been 2 technicals against LeBron in a single game, and since he wasn't ejected, he should have been suspended for game 5.

I'm not saying I wanted LeBron suspended. In fact, the last thing I would want is LeBron suspended in a Finals game. What I'm saying is it's a slippery slope to start retroactively officiating games.

No. This is just ridiculous. On every level.

You have no idea how hard it is to officiate at this level. The players know when they are out of your cone of vision and they often pull **** when they think they can get away with it. Retroactive enforcement allows the league to say "you are never out of our cone of vision".

You don't know the difference between a tech and a flagrant. Do yourself a favor and before you enter a conversation about them have a clue.

And LeBron wouldn't be suspended for two retroactive techs any more than Dray was suspended for his F2 (punting Adams' nuts). And that's for giving LBJ a tech for defending how the officials were allowing them to defend all game (never gonna get it).

[oh the horror]

Players should be suspended based on the calls during the game. DrayGod wasn't even called for a foul in the game, yet the league reviewed that particular play, and changed it from NO foul, to a flagrant.

All I'm saying is you can't pick and choose what plays you're going to review and change. If I reviewed every second of every game, I could call fouls, flagrants, and technicals on lots of different plays. Like I said earlier, an elbow that LeBron landed to Curry's throat in game 4 was clearly a more dangerous foul. That would have been 2 technicals against LeBron in a single game, and since he wasn't ejected, he should have been suspended for game 5.

I'm not saying I wanted LeBron suspended. In fact, the last thing I would want is LeBron suspended in a Finals game. What I'm saying is it's a slippery slope to start retroactively officiating games.



Bingo. If they're going to start officiating this way, especially to hand out suspensions after the fact then this is just bad for the league all the way around. NBA has to have the worst officiating in all of American sports.

[ArbitraryWater]

Players should be suspended based on the calls during the game. DrayGod wasn't even called for a foul in the game, yet the league reviewed that particular play, and changed it from NO foul, to a flagrant.

All I'm saying is you can't pick and choose what plays you're going to review and change. If I reviewed every second of every game, I could call fouls, flagrants, and technicals on lots of different plays. Like I said earlier, an elbow that LeBron landed to Curry's throat in game 4 was clearly a more dangerous foul. That would have been 2 technicals against LeBron in a single game, and since he wasn't ejected, he should have been suspended for game 5.

I'm not saying I wanted LeBron suspended. In fact, the last thing I would want is LeBron suspended in a Finals game. What I'm saying is it's a slippery slope to start retroactively officiating games.

some strong mental gymastics by you Warrior fan geeks

enjoy a title-less summer and retrospectively getting stripped of your '15 asterisk :rockon:

[Hey Yo]

Players should be suspended based on the calls during the game. DrayGod wasn't even called for a foul in the game, yet the league reviewed that particular play, and changed it from NO foul, to a flagrant.

So if the ref's didn't see Artest cave in the side of Harden's head with that elbow...nothing should have happened? It would be considered stupid and such bullshit that the league suspended Artest for that act...after the fact?

That's what the league should be? Anything goes......as long as the ref's don't see it??

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What I'm saying is it's a slippery slope to start retroactively officiating games.

Bingo.

it is too prone to lobbying and corruption.

[chazzy]

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[stalkerforlife]

Nothing surprising.

Bran is the biggest coward in the league.

Soft as baby shit.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

They need to end the practice of officiating games after the game is done.

Lebitch instigated the whole thing by stepping over the man. Why is this not considered a Flagrant 2, because he instigated a fight.

[kamil]

How are prior facts in evidence relevant?

Is that a serious question?

Yes it's a serious question. Now answer it. How is it relevant?

[HurricaneKid]

Yes it's a serious question. Now answer it. How is it relevant?

Penalties ESCALATE. It becomes clear that prior instances were not "accidents" but merely the beginning of a pattern of behavior. Get a DUI, maybe it was an oversight. Get 3 of them and the justice system will own you. Kick a guy in the nuts, maybe it was an accident. 3 times in two weeks? NOT AN ACCIDENT. TIME TO SIT.

[kamil]

Penalties ESCALATE. It becomes clear that prior instances were not "accidents" but merely the beginning of a pattern of behavior. Get a DUI, maybe it was an oversight. Get 3 of them and the justice system will own you. Kick a guy in the nuts, maybe it was an accident. 3 times in two weeks? NOT AN ACCIDENT. TIME TO SIT.

You're being selective.

The other offences warranted a suspension. The last one didn't.

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[ImKobe]

Penalties ESCALATE. It becomes clear that prior instances were not "accidents" but merely the beginning of a pattern of behavior. Get a DUI, maybe it was an oversight. Get 3 of them and the justice system will own you. Kick a guy in the nuts, maybe it was an accident. 3 times in two weeks? NOT AN ACCIDENT. TIME TO SIT.

but he didn't kick Lebron in the nuts, he simply reacted to Lebron stepping over him...

Let's be real.. if this happened in Game 6 against KD or Westbrook in the WCF, you think he would have been suspended for Game 7 then?

This move was simply about extending the Finals... yeah let's just suspend one of the key guys that covers Lebron for at least half of the game and anchors the GS defense.. :rolleyes: They wouldn't have suspended him if it was a Game 7, period. This series was going to end in 5 and now it ends in 6.

[Ca$H]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2646664-cavaliers-reportedly-wanted-draymond-green-suspended-for-2-games

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[Bankaii]

but he didn't kick Lebron in the nuts, he simply reacted to Lebron stepping over him...

Let's be real.. if this happened in Game 6 against KD or Westbrook in the WCF, you think he would have been suspended for Game 7 then?

This move was simply about extending the Finals... yeah let's just suspend one of the key guys that covers Lebron for at least half of the game and anchors the GS defense.. :rolleyes: They wouldn't have suspended him if it was a Game 7, period. This series was going to end in 5 and now it ends in 6.
How many times does it have to be explained to you idiots?

The NBA didn't suspend Draymond, he was suspended due to exceeding the limit of flagrants/techs.
The flagrant they gave him they are extremely consistent about because of the area he hit in and the fact he's a repeat offender.

Seriously what do you know about basketball?

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Wow, this has never happened before.

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[Lebron23]

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[MP.Trey]

Try to get him suspended the whole year, why not? Don't act like OKC wasn't lobbying for a suspension or GSW wouldn't be if Curry got hit in the nuts. That's what teams and front offices do, they bitch and moan about the refs and try to get their way.

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First virgin too :applause:

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[ImKobe]

How many times does it have to be explained to you idiots?

The NBA didn't suspend Draymond, he was suspended due to exceeding the limit of flagrants/techs.
The flagrant they gave him they are extremely consistent about because of the area he hit in and the fact he's a repeat offender.

Seriously what do you know about basketball?

But it wasn't ruled a flagrant foul in the game. Heck, they didn't whistle anything when it actually happened. :roll:

It wasn't until Lebron and the Cavs spoke out that they took any action on this matter. If it was such a big deal it would have been called during the game. It wasn't. They just looked at the outcome and wanted to give the Cavs a chance to extend the series for more ratings. Only an idiot would not understand that. It made sense financially for the NBA to do this.

[Smoke117]

But it wasn't ruled a flagrant foul in the game. Heck, they didn't whistle anything when it actually happened. :roll:

It wasn't until Lebron and the Cavs spoke out that they took any action on this matter. If it was such a big deal it would have been called during the game. It wasn't. They just looked at the outcome and wanted to give the Cavs a chance to extend the series for more ratings. Only an idiot would not understand that. It made sense financially for the NBA to do this.

Why are you even trying to debate this? No matter what you would take the side against Lebron...it doesn't matter the circumstance...that's what you haters do. If it was Lebron in Green's position you would be talking non stop shit and you know it.

[Bankaii]

But it wasn't ruled a flagrant foul in the game. Heck, they didn't whistle anything when it actually happened. :roll:

It wasn't until Lebron and the Cavs spoke out that they took any action on this matter. If it was such a big deal it would have been called during the game. It wasn't. They just looked at the outcome and wanted to give the Cavs a chance to extend the series for more ratings. Only an idiot would not understand that. It made sense financially for the NBA to do this.
You act like the NBA doesn't ALWAYS review calls like that to upgrade them.
They did the exact same thing with the Dahntay Jones incident.

Again,mother are consistent in giving flagrants for contact in that specific region. Period.

Just stop it. You look like an idiot right now.

[DukeDelonte13]

why wouldn't they?

[ImKobe]

You act like the NBA doesn't ALWAYS review calls like that to upgrade them.
They did the exact same thing with the Dahntay Jones incident.

Again,mother are consistent in giving flagrants for contact in that specific region. Period.

Just stop it. You look like an idiot right now.

What was flagrant about that sequence?

Lebron was the one who pushed Green down and stepped over him, Green reacted to his actions but didn't physically hurt him or even hit his groin area. Green should have been suspended in the OKC series but he wasn't because the league wanted that series to be closer.

this is what they ruled a flagrant 1 in the OKC series

http://images.follownews.com/2184/2184740/draymond-green-kicks-steven-adams-in-the-nuts-again_1.jpg

how is that the same as what happened between him and Lebron in Game 4? :biggums:

this was actually called a foul during the game and it was UPGRADED

when him and Lebron had their sequence they didn't call anything and the play continued

you say the NBA reviews calls

yes, they review calls to see if they need to be upgraded, but in this case there was NO call.

how do you upgrade something that wasn't called in the first place?

[Sarcastic]

They need to end the practice of officiating games after the game is done.

Lebitch instigated the whole thing by stepping over the man. Why is this not considered a Flagrant 2, because he instigated a fight.

If they did that Draymond would have 0 flagrant fouls. None of his FFs were called during the game, including his body slam of Michael Beasley.

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[bdreason]

What was flagrant about that sequence?

Lebron was the one who pushed Green down and stepped over him, Green reacted to his actions but didn't physically hurt him or even hit his groin area. Green should have been suspended in the OKC series but he wasn't because the league wanted that series to be closer.

this is what they ruled a flagrant 1 in the OKC series

http://images.follownews.com/2184/2184740/draymond-green-kicks-steven-adams-in-the-nuts-again_1.jpg

how is that the same as what happened between him and Lebron in Game 4? :biggums:

this was actually called a foul during the game and it was UPGRADED

when him and Lebron had their sequence they didn't call anything and the play continued

you say the NBA reviews calls

yes, they review calls to see if they need to be upgraded, but in this case there was NO call.

how do you upgrade something that wasn't called in the first place?

The Adams play was actually called a foul on Adams. So the league changed a foul on Adams to a flagrant on Green. Adams also elbowed Livingston in the head in that series, but I guess the league decided not to review that play.

Like I said, it's a slippery slope when the league starts picking and choosing what calls they want to review.

[Bankaii]

What was flagrant about that sequence?

Lebron was the one who pushed Green down and stepped over him, Green reacted to his actions but didn't physically hurt him or even hit his groin area. Green should have been suspended in the OKC series but he wasn't because the league wanted that series to be closer.

this is what they ruled a flagrant 1 in the OKC series

http://images.follownews.com/2184/2184740/draymond-green-kicks-steven-adams-in-the-nuts-again_1.jpg

how is that the same as what happened between him and Lebron in Game 4? :biggums:

this was actually called a foul during the game and it was UPGRADED

when him and Lebron had their sequence they didn't call anything and the play continued

you say the NBA reviews calls

yes, they review calls to see if they need to be upgraded, but in this case there was NO call.

how do you upgrade something that wasn't called in the first place?
There's is no way you're this stupid.

First off, Lebron didn't push anyway down. Both were locked up and Draymond flopped looking for a foul.

Second, how the league handled the OKC situation is irrelevant to him getting suspended. Point is 99% of situations in which a player intentionally swings and hits another player in the groin will result in a flagrant.

Also the foul was called on Adams dumbass. The play was reviewed AFTER the game and switch to a flagrant on Draymond. Thanks for proving my point.

If this was Lebron getting suspended I'm willing to bet your perspective on the would change drastically.

[Bankaii]

They need to end the practice of officiating games after the game is done.

Lebitch instigated the whole thing by stepping over the man. Why is this not considered a Flagrant 2, because he instigated a fight.
A flagrant 2 for stepping over someone?:roll:

Whose dumbass alt is this?

[ImKobe]

There's is no way you're this stupid.

First off, Lebron didn't push anyway down. Both were locked up and Draymond flopped looking for a foul.

Second, how the league handled the OKC situation is irrelevant to him getting suspended. Point is 99% of situations in which a player intentionally swings and hits another player in the groin will result in a flagrant.

Also the foul was called on Adams dumbass. The play was reviewed AFTER the game and switch to a flagrant on Draymond. Thanks for proving my point.

If this was Lebron getting suspended I'm willing to bet your perspective on the would change drastically.

You're a ****ing retard. There was an actual call on the sequence between Green and Adams that was reviewed, yeah it was initially called on Adams but there was an actual call made to be reviewed.

In Game 4, there was NO CALL on what was later ruled a flagrant foul. What was flagrant about Green reacting to someone stepping over him? Look at the damn replay, he didn't even come close to hurting Lebron, he simply tried to get up and swung his arms around but no harm was done, how is that a flagrant?

I compared it to the OKC situation because he got a flagrant 1 then because it was actually warranted (and should have been a flagrant 2 = suspension), he blatantly kicked Adams, he hurt him. In this case there was nothing flagrant about it. He talked shyt to Lebron but last time I checked that does not warrant a suspension in the damn Finals :facepalm

[Lebron23]

Dear ImKobe,

Just stop posting in this thread,

Thank You.

[ImKobe]

Dear ImKobe,

Just stop posting in this thread,

Thank You.

eat shit and die :kobe:

[knicksman]

A flagrant 2 for stepping over someone?:roll:

Whose dumbass alt is this?


Reading comprehension ftw. Bran stans gonna dumb

[Bankaii]

Reading comprehension ftw. Bran stans gonna dumb
Should've figured such a retarded alt would come from you

[Detroit]

This dude apparently seems to not have control of his hands and legs. He kicks the fu*k out of Adams' nuts and then says that his legs just go their own way when he jumps :oldlol: then as he gets off the floor, somehow his hands swing and hit ol dude in the nuts:oldlol: COME ON MAN!

[Bankaii]

You're a ****ing retard. There was an actual call on the sequence between Green and Adams that was reviewed, yeah it was initially called on Adams but there was an actual call made to be reviewed.

In Game 4, there was NO CALL on what was later ruled a flagrant foul. What was flagrant about Green reacting to someone stepping over him? Look at the damn replay, he didn't even come close to hurting Lebron, he simply tried to get up and swung his arms around but no harm was done, how is that a flagrant?

I compared it to the OKC situation because he got a flagrant 1 then because it was actually warranted (and should have been a flagrant 2 = suspension), he blatantly kicked Adams, he hurt him. In this case there was nothing flagrant about it. He talked shyt to Lebron but last time I checked that does not warrant a suspension in the damn Finals :facepalm
Yep you're definitely retarded.

It doesn't matter what happened. He hit Lebron in the nuts. The NBA has and always will review ANY contact to that area and hand out a flagrant. Period.

I'm not explaining it to you again. So just stop trying to prove your biased, dumb point.

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