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SpaceJam
06-17-2016, 03:34 AM
I don't think there was a blatant rigging as some people are saying, as there was just dumb dumb calls called against both teams.

What I'm pissed about is how the refs just take over the game, you could tell they were being influenced by the crowd, calling petty sh^t etc.

It's irritating as a fan to watch

Also why was Scott Foster (Voted worst ref by NBA players/coaches) reffing a Game 6 of the Finals :facepalm

Prime_Shaq
06-17-2016, 03:36 AM
It was pretty bad but not the reason the Warriors lost tbh.

SpaceJam
06-17-2016, 03:37 AM
It was pretty bad but not the reason the Warriors lost tbh.

Yeah like I said I don't believe there was a bias towards any team, just as a fan watching, it was a badly called game

Shaq said it best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-BoeBedZ3k

red1
06-17-2016, 03:37 AM
some shitty ass calls but not enough to actually complain about. warriors lost because they got wrecked in the first quarter when they were bricking everything. cant expect to come back every game

Quickening
06-17-2016, 03:37 AM
Refs always tend to be a little biased towards the home team, one of the reasons teams have a better record at their arena. I thought it was officiated fair enough on the whole.

Sarcastic
06-17-2016, 03:38 AM
It was called fair. For instance I'm watching the replay right now, and at 36-16 they just called a phantom call on Love as Draymond drove to the basket. Both teams got 25 fouls, and free throws were very close. Warriors getting so many free throws as a three point shooting team, shows they weren't biased against them. The Cavs were just better.

Mr. Jabbar
06-17-2016, 03:42 AM
refs rig it in a non obvious way, fts and fouls raw numbers dont mean shit. These guys are not stupid. key plays and momentum swingers is were u look at. curry early foul trouble and that shit that went on in the 4th when the lead was 7 was hideous

fourkicks44
06-17-2016, 03:43 AM
It was utter shit.

plowking
06-17-2016, 03:45 AM
It was fine.

Springsteen
06-17-2016, 05:38 AM
refs rig it in a non obvious way, fts and fouls raw numbers dont mean shit. These guys are not stupid. key plays and momentum swingers is were u look at. curry early foul trouble and that shit that went on in the 4th when the lead was 7 was hideous

Yea, they've defenitely gotten better at it since Lakers-Kings.

Spurs m8
06-17-2016, 06:23 AM
Was nowhere near as bad as these little Golden State bitches are claiming.

Nice to see things evened out a bit after they got helped through the whole season.

Funny how the meltdowns become so heavy once they aren't getting weak calls their way.

Suck a fat d*ck, Warriors

Hey Yo
06-17-2016, 06:37 AM
Nice to see Vareflop get called for his bullshit acting

2swift4u
06-17-2016, 06:53 AM
some questionable calls against the Warriors but they have been playing with fire the whole series with all their reachin' in and slapping away balls (half of the time they hit more arm than ball) etc. They often got away with it but not last night.

Prime_Shaq
06-17-2016, 08:11 AM
Was nowhere near as bad as these little Golden State bitches are claiming.

Nice to see things evened out a bit after they got helped through the whole season.

Funny how the meltdowns become so heavy once they aren't getting weak calls their way.

Suck a fat d*ck, Warriors
You're always angry bruh

MintBerryCrunch
06-17-2016, 08:14 AM
Refs were bad. Did all they could to try to help a Warriors comeback. Luckily Irving and James are cold blooded.

Jon_Koncak
06-17-2016, 08:14 AM
i thoiught it was the worst reffed game of the finals.Except for Love's foul no3 Cavs got EVERYHTING.

Boogaboog
06-17-2016, 08:30 AM
some questionable calls against the Warriors but they have been playing with fire the whole series with all their reachin' in and slapping away balls (half of the time they hit more arm than ball) etc. They often got away with it but not last night.

This. And I'll be fair, T. Thompson needs to plant his feet on those screens.

Vragrant
06-17-2016, 08:49 AM
Bad officiating on both ends. When you have so many key players in foul trouble, something is wrong. So many cheap fouls were called, and it compromises the game when you have so many guys concerned about fouling out.

Spurs m8
06-17-2016, 09:48 AM
You're always angry bruh

Mate...I've been laughing all day at the epic meltdowns...haven't seen anything like it for years.

Some people confuse harsh truths with anger.

kamil
06-17-2016, 10:00 AM
refs rig it in a non obvious way, fts and fouls raw numbers dont mean shit. These guys are not stupid. key plays and momentum swingers is were u look at. curry early foul trouble and that shit that went on in the 4th when the lead was 7 was hideous

They've been doing this to Curry almost EVERY game in the 1st quarter. Didn't the refs pull this kind of shit on OKC in 2012, by getting them into early foul trouble?

sfballa13
06-17-2016, 10:02 AM
Lebron in games 5 AND 6 combined

84 minutes

82 points

THREE turnovers

end thread

fourkicks44
06-17-2016, 10:02 AM
Bad officiating on both ends. When you have so many key players in foul trouble, something is wrong. So many cheap fouls were called, and it compromises the game when you have so many guys concerned about fouling out.

Very well said. :applause:

HurricaneKid
06-17-2016, 10:04 AM
The two debated Curry fouls were both CLEARLY fouls. He fouled LeBron, then LeBron regathered, he fouled him again, on the other arm this time, then hit his leg. So for him to go ballistic on that call is hilarious.

Watch Love's 1st and 3rd foul. THOSE are phantom calls.

BlazerRed
06-17-2016, 10:10 AM
Why was Scott Foster taken off the roster against OKC in game 6 but not this game? Oh right, because the NBA wanted the Warriors in the finals and they wanted 7 games.

Also officiating was terrible both ways.

ClipperRevival
06-17-2016, 10:13 AM
They were a little too ticky tacky. This is the finals, you have to let guys play a little and not get them in foul trouble.

Klay 3D
06-17-2016, 10:17 AM
The two debated Curry fouls were both CLEARLY fouls. He fouled LeBron, then LeBron regathered, he fouled him again, on the other arm this time, then hit his leg. So for him to go ballistic on that call is hilarious.

Watch Love's 1st and 3rd foul. THOSE are phantom calls.
You don't call dumb shit like that even though Curry was going for a dumb steal. Lebron fouls on 75% of his drives but none of that stuff is called. TT fouls on every other offensive rebound but he's rewarded for hustling. Those are fine because I'm a fan of letting them play, but to call things like that steal attempt on Kyrie was dumb as hell. Handcheck call when Klay and Curry gets held/pushed off ball all the time. :facepalm

konex
06-17-2016, 10:20 AM
I didn't see any rigging. Some bad calls both ways but GS just got beat

hateraid
06-17-2016, 10:23 AM
Personally I thought Cleveland got more non call but GS got more phantom fouls against them.

All in all poor officiating but non bias

HurricaneKid
06-17-2016, 10:27 AM
You don't call dumb shit like that even though Curry was going for a dumb steal. Lebron fouls on 75% of his drives but none of that stuff is called. TT fouls on every other offensive rebound but he's rewarded for hustling. Those are fine because I'm a fan of letting them play, but to call things like that steal attempt on Kyrie was dumb as hell. Handcheck call when Klay and Curry gets held/pushed off ball all the time. :facepalm

I don't actually disagree with a lot of what you are saying (outside of the idiocy about LeBron charging on 75% of his drives). But there are things that simply HAVE to be called.

Kyrie had a step on him and Curry grabbed him TWICE before Ky turned the corner. He was literally fouling him for 25 feet, was WAY out of position and reached across Ky's body. He did get the ball clean but that is going to be a foul in every game of basketball anywhere. You can't do that on the ball and expect to get away with it. Dray stuck his arm into LeBron and moved him 25 feet at half court and threw a tantrum when they finally called it. You can't do that on ball. Never.

Curry and Klay aren't being allowed to run free. That's off the ball stuff and is completely different. Watch a game and count the on ball fouls vs the off ball fouls. They let a LOT go off ball, and in the playoffs they let far more go.

Derka
06-17-2016, 10:32 AM
People calling it a rig job are just being salty. Refs missed plenty of calls against both teams and made up for it by calling shit that just wasn't there. In other words, same ol' story with NBA officiating.

The Warriors flat out got beat. They missed a ton of good shots and their defense was not great. Curry's head doesn't seem to be in it either. Dude led the league in steals this year and he's now playing like a total liability on that end of the floor.

The meltdown about Curry's ejection is right on par with what happened when Lebron fouled out against the Celtics in the ECFs a few years back.

Klay 3D
06-17-2016, 11:04 AM
I don't actually disagree with a lot of what you are saying (outside of the idiocy about LeBron charging on 75% of his drives). But there are things that simply HAVE to be called.

Kyrie had a step on him and Curry grabbed him TWICE before Ky turned the corner. He was literally fouling him for 25 feet, was WAY out of position and reached across Ky's body. He did get the ball clean but that is going to be a foul in every game of basketball anywhere. You can't do that on the ball and expect to get away with it. Dray stuck his arm into LeBron and moved him 25 feet at half court and threw a tantrum when they finally called it. You can't do that on ball. Never.

Curry and Klay aren't being allowed to run free. That's off the ball stuff and is completely different. Watch a game and count the on ball fouls vs the off ball fouls. They let a LOT go off ball, and in the playoffs they let far more go.
Ok I exaggerated on the 75% but if you look at his off arm, he's pushing guys out of the way a lot when he's manned up without a screen.

I don't disagree that it was a foul, but it's wrong to me when the call was made after the ball was poked loose and Kyrie goes diving on the floor. For how the series has been called, that was a bad call.

I'm not going to argue about the Dray foul. It was pointless and the game was basically out of reach.

If Lebron gets denied the ball like how Curry and Thompson does, they're calling those fouls.

Remember when the ref was standing right in front of Kyrie stepping out of bounds, but he acknowledge the timeout anyway?

Stringer Bell
06-17-2016, 06:15 PM
I thought they were favoring the Warriors in the first half and then the Cavs in the second half. Didn't like some of those fouls on Curry, and especially that offensive foul on Thompson.

Being a ref is obviously difficult and what must be frustrating as a player (and a fan) is knowing what is really a foul and what is not. Technically, fouls are committed all the time. LeBron pushes off when he goes to the hoop, so does Curry (he's sneakier with it, but you can see it if you're watching carefully), LeBron gets hacked a lot too. Players frequently give little pushes with their left hands when they are driving right, and vice versa. So what exactly should be called and what shouldn't be? You could be playing a game where they are allowing physical play, and then the refs start calling touchy fouls.

And travelling too, that always gets ignored. If they didn't, you might see some of that basic looking ball-handling back in the 60s that people nowadays make fun of and say looks primitive.

HurricaneKid
06-17-2016, 06:37 PM
Ok I exaggerated on the 75% but if you look at his off arm, he's pushing guys out of the way a lot when he's manned up without a screen.

I don't disagree that it was a foul, but it's wrong to me when the call was made after the ball was poked loose and Kyrie goes diving on the floor. For how the series has been called, that was a bad call.

I'm not going to argue about the Dray foul. It was pointless and the game was basically out of reach.

If Lebron gets denied the ball like how Curry and Thompson does, they're calling those fouls.

Remember when the ref was standing right in front of Kyrie stepping out of bounds, but he acknowledge the timeout anyway?

And they call the off hand on drives for everyone? Or is this something you think should JUST be called on LeBron?

I would have been fine with a no call on that play too. But the call is almost always made because it can never be a wrong call. Players at every level whine about that call without understanding that if you are out of position and reach on a player with the ball you are going to get called. That's just the way it works.

You can't deny LeBron the ball because he is bigger and stronger and can jump higher. And he happily takes the ball at 30 feet. What you want is for your shooters to run free around moving picks and get open shots. And when the opposition chucks cutters and defenders fight through screens you cry about it being unfair. Its pretty comical from my perspective.

We are talking about a team that basically had a cheat code in getting the best shooters that ever walked the earth open looks. And now that Cle is forcing them out farther and putting them under duress you are whining. Curry is throwing spit at fans on a foul call that was very clearly the correct call.