Ex Warrior legend Stephen Jackson comments on NBA finals being rigged

[PistonsFan#21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b62ib72IaIs

the homie speaks the truth

[nightlight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b62ib72IaIs

the homie speaks the truth

I'm with capt. jack on this. :applause:

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

That was the worst possible matchup for Dallas that year. Avery didn't care though. Avery had a chance in the regular season to knock them out. He refused. He allowed GS to win a game by resting all his players.

Combine that with the fact that:

GS was hot at the end of that year. They got back a couple of their players from injury and were the hottest team in the second half after the all star break. Then Avery had the bright idea to change the lineup and go "small" against GS. And it was lights out.

Matchups in he NBA are more important than any other sport. The Lakers/Spurs won against the Nets in the Finals. But nearly every good WCF team those two years (Sac/Dallas) could have beaten the Nets those two years.

[NBAGOAT]

the last part is just fantastic. Being mad as a team fan is one thing and pretty normal right after a game but now people are just hating on the refs just because of players they stan or hate.

[plowking]

A lot on here could use his advice.

We all complain about bad calls, but acting as if this shit is rigged is ridiculous.

[highwhey]

some would say he is the best stephen to play for GS

[hateraid]

Amen!
Being rigged is something both teams need to be involved in. Players win games!

[stalkerforlife]

So the biggest thug in NBA history is now the voice of reason?

Or maybe he's trying to get in the good graces of the league so he can have a career.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/david-price-officially-weighed-in-on-the-nba-s-credibility-005135109.html

[hateraid]

Ron Artest says so too

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKFVD4YXzeI

[stalkerforlife]

Ron Artest says so too

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKFVD4YXzeI

Wow...you guys have some credible sources.

No way these guys are trying to stay in the league in some fashion.

[hateraid]

So the biggest thug in NBA history is now the voice of reason?

Or maybe he's trying to get in the good graces of the league so he can have a career.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/david-price-officially-weighed-in-on-the-nba-s-credibility-005135109.html

I think it's the exact opposite. Guys like Jax and Metta have their images tarnished anyways so they can speak without filters because it won't harm them.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Very well said.

I get bad officiating and superstar treatment, but "rigging"? Its only uttered by whiny fans that can't handle their favorite teams and players losing.

I mean, why watch if you feel its predetermined. :confusedshrug:

[PistonsFan#21]

So the biggest thug in NBA history is now the voice of reason?

Or maybe he's trying to get in the good graces of the league so he can have a career.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/david-price-officially-weighed-in-on-the-nba-s-credibility-005135109.html

which good graces are you talking about? hes clearly stated NBA f*cked him over a lot. Get your excuses outta this thread

[stalkerforlife]

Very well said.

I get bad officiating and superstar treatment, but "rigging"? Its only uttered by whiny fans that can't handle their favorite teams and players losing.

I mean, why watch if you feel its predetermined. :confusedshrug:

I can handle a game or two being fixed, but not an entire series. (Even though the idea of any fixing is disgusting)

I will be done with the league if Cavs win game 7.

[Andrei89]

Stalker for life is such a salty loser :lol :lol

[plowking]

I will be done with the league if Cavs win game 7.

This is the funniest thing I've ever read on the forums. :oldlol:

[stalkerforlife]

This is the funniest thing I've ever read on the forums. :oldlol:

True, though.

I won't watch anymore.

[NBAGOAT]

True, though.

I won't watch anymore.

what if the Cavs win by 30 with no controversial calls at all. :confusedshrug:

[HeyMarkus]

True, though.

I won't watch anymore.
Just go now, bro. No one cares.

Objective viewers know and can clearly see that this has been a closely and FAIRLY contested series. The officiating has been mostly on point and when it's bad, it's bad both ways. This is clear shit.

[ALBballer]

"The Nba F*cked With Me A Lot"

Guy made almost $70 million in his career.

[West-Side]

My gangsta! Love that dude.
Puts shit in perspective.

[Papaya Petee]

True, though.

I won't watch anymore.
Just go now, be free, stay home dad.

[West-Side]

My gangsta! Love that dude.
Puts shit in perspective.

[Duderonomy]

Stephen is right the Players themselves are not in on it. The higher ups might instruct refs to blow the whistle at certain points to dictate the game, that's plausible. Yes, it's about the money. The NBA Finals has been a ratings bonanza. ABC wants this to go a full seven games.

But I firmly believe, now that is the final game...that the refs will call it down the middle and let the true deserving better team win.

[ShawkFactory]

Wow...you guys have some credible sources.

No way these guys are trying to stay in the league in some fashion.
Your credible source isn't even a basketball player :lol

[hateraid]

True, though.

I won't watch anymore.

So if the Warriors win then the NBA is legit but if they lose its fixed?

Think about what you're saying if you heard this from any other sports fan from any other sport. Doesn't it sound salty?

[r0drig0lac]

some would say he is the best stephen to play for GS
boom

[stalkerforlife]

what if the Cavs win by 30 with no controversial calls at all. :confusedshrug:

They fixed game 5 and i'm willing to overlook it, as disgusting as it is...but if it leads to the entire series being ruined because of that, I will stop watching.

I can only stomach the BS if the right thing inevitably happens.

[stalkerforlife]

Just go now, bro. No one cares.

Objective viewers know and can clearly see that this has been a closely and FAIRLY contested series. The officiating has been mostly on point and when it's bad, it's bad both ways. This is clear shit.

What's clear is this series would've been over in 5 had Dray not been suspended.

You don't suspend such an important player in the NBA FINALS over reacting to a man stepping over his face. AND THEN DO NOTHING TO THE ONE WHO INITIATED IT.

The series was CLEARLY prolonged by the NBA.

[stalkerforlife]

So if the Warriors win then the NBA is legit but if they lose its fixed?

Think about what you're saying if you heard this from any other sports fan from any other sport. Doesn't it sound salty?

This series would've been over in 5 if Dray hadn't been suspended.

Grow up, man.

[NBAGOAT]

They fixed game 5 and i'm willing to overlook it, as disgusting as it is...but if it leads to the entire series being ruined because of that, I will stop watching.

I can only stomach the BS if the right thing inevitably happens.

how the hell did you stomach the suspensions from spurs-suns or how bad the refs were in game 6 of kings-lakers. Ik, it's because you were fine with who won those series which is all that matters in the end. If the Cavs were being screwed you say absolutely nothing. :confusedshrug:

[hateraid]

This series would've been over in 5 if Dray hadn't been suspended.

Grow up, man.

How does not thinking it's fixed make me not grown up? Lol
I'm just saying, look at what you're saying objectively. You sound bitter.

[R.I.P.]

Dallas shot four more FTs over the whole six game series.

GS shot 43/33/77 in Game One. 25-22 FT edge to Dallas in Dallas. Obviously the NBA tried everything to rig that specific opening game and couldn

[stalkerforlife]

how the hell did you stomach the suspensions from spurs-suns or how bad the refs were in game 6 of kings-lakers. Ik, it's because you were fine with who won those series which is all that matters in the end. If the Cavs were being screwed you say absolutely nothing. :confusedshrug:

The Lakers/Kings myth has been debunked because the NBA deliberately fixed the previous game for the Kings.

In the end, the right thing happened.

You do have a point with the Suns/Spurs series, though...absolutely disgusting.

[stalkerforlife]

And by the way, the Warriors were allowed to MANHANDLE Dirk in that series.

The NBA wanted to stick it to Cuban.

I don't recall enough of the series to call an absolute fix, though.

[NBAGOAT]

The Lakers/Kings myth has been debunked because the NBA deliberately fixed the previous game for the Kings.

In the end, the right thing happened.

You do have a point with the Suns/Spurs series, though...absolutely disgusting.

there was maybe a couple questionable calls in game 5, that's it. No one including Laker fans believe the NBA fixed game 5 for the Kings. I'm not even saying game 6 was fixed either but it was easily the worst officiated game of all time and you should've been disgusted by that if you're being consistent.

[HeyMarkus]

What's clear is this series would've been over in 5 had Dray not been suspended.

You don't suspend such an important player in the NBA FINALS over reacting to a man stepping over his face. AND THEN DO NOTHING TO THE ONE WHO INITIATED IT.

The series was CLEARLY prolonged by the NBA.
First of all, no matter who you support or what you think, Draymond certainly and without doubt initiated that. Watch that play again. objectively, Draymond initiated that incident and the contact.

Secondly, Draymond would not have been suspended if he wasn't a habitual line stepper and habitual ball smacker. The guy does it all the time, he flails and aims for the nuts in the regular season and he did it twice in the playoffs before lebron. He made his own bed, he put himself in a position to be suspended and he took responsibility for it. Maybe you should listen to the man himself and concede that the suspension was WITHOUT DOUBT warranted and necessary. I don't even think the nba had a choice at that point, they had to suspend him after all the dirty shit he did

[stalkerforlife]

there was maybe a couple questionable calls in game 5, that's it. No one including Laker fans believe the NBA fixed game 5 for the Kings. I'm not even saying game 6 was fixed either but it was easily the worst officiated game of all time and you should've been disgusted by that if you're being consistent.

I am always disgusted when the players aren't the reason for the outcome.

Like I said, though, i'll overlook the immoral behavior if the right thing happens in the end.

This has gone on too long.

The NBA has to pay for undermining the integrity of competition and for also calling the fans complete morons to their face.

[HurricaneKid]

What's clear is this series would've been over in 5 had Dray not been suspended.

You don't suspend such an important player in the NBA FINALS over reacting to a man stepping over his face. AND THEN DO NOTHING TO THE ONE WHO INITIATED IT.

The series was CLEARLY prolonged by the NBA.

They didn't suspend him for it. They gave him a flagrant for intentionally hitting a man's groin.

He knew after the Adams punt he was on thin ice. The league allowed him to play after he dragged Adams down, tucking his arm in an attempt to INJURE, and told him he was not going to get the benefit of the doubt any more. So when he hit a man in the junk he EARNED his suspension.

If you are told what will happen if you misbehave, then do it anyways, and are punished exactly how they told you they would punish you, its on YOU.

Feel free not to wait for G7 to leave here. You contribute nothing positive anyhow.

[warriorfan]

some would say he is the best stephen to play for GS

some would say you are an obese mexican who is a posterchild for type 2 diabetes

[stalkerforlife]

They didn't suspend him for it. They gave him a flagrant for intentionally hitting a man's groin.

He knew after the Adams punt he was on thin ice. The league allowed him to play after he dragged Adams down, tucking his arm in an attempt to INJURE, and told him he was not going to get the benefit of the doubt any more. So when he hit a man in the junk he EARNED his suspension.

If you are told what will happen if you misbehave, then do it anyways, and are punished exactly how they told you they would punish you, its on YOU.

Feel free not to wait for G7 to leave here. You contribute nothing positive anyhow.

Just STFU.

[R.I.P.]

And by the way, the Warriors were allowed to MANHANDLE Dirk in that series.

The NBA wanted to stick it to Cuban.

I don't recall enough of the series to call an absolute fix, though.

Exactly. Dirk is probably the least protected superstar since Shaq.

To pick this series as evidence is simply idiotic. It

[NBAGOAT]

I am always disgusted when the players aren't the reason for the outcome.

Like I said, though, i'll overlook the immoral behavior if the right thing happens in the end.

This has gone on too long.

The NBA has to pay for undermining the integrity of competition and for also calling the fans complete morons to their face.

so what you're saying is the Lakers winning in an inarguable badly officiated game was the right thing happening but the Cavs winning with really only a few disputed calls is the wrong thing happening. This is you being a Kobe stan/Lebron hater and the definition of hypocrisy.

[stalkerforlife]

so what you're saying is the Lakers winning in an inarguable badly officiated game was the right thing happening but the Cavs winning with really only a few disputed calls is the wrong thing happening. This is you being a Kobe stan/Lebron hater and the definition of hypocrisy.

This series ends in 5 if the 2nd or 3rd most important player in the series isn't suspended.

THAT is what i'm saying.

Pay attention.

[NBAGOAT]

This series ends in 5 if the 2nd or 3rd most important player in the series isn't suspended.

THAT is what i'm saying.

Pay attention.

the Kings win game 6 if the refs even make a few more correct calls. That is what I'm saying. Ofc game 5 wasn't too close, why are you stating it like it's a guarantee GS would've won.

[Sarcastic]

Pretty sure he knows more about it than Ayesha Curry.

[HeyMarkus]

This series ends in 5 if the 2nd or 3rd most important player in the series isn't suspended.

THAT is what i'm saying.

Pay attention.
Well then that player shouldn't have got himself suspended, which he did. Himself. No one else. Take responsibility for your guys actions

[warriorfan]

Pretty sure he knows more about it than Ayesha Curry.

u are a porzingus fan...u dont know shit about anything

:roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

This series would've been over in 5 if Dray hadn't been suspended.

Grow up, man.
He played game 6 :confusedshrug:

[Replay32]

The NBA isn't rigged. Basketball refs are shitty on all levels of ball. The NBA has the best refs IMO. Especially watching college and now that my son is playing HS ball.

This is what tends to happen and why home court advantage exists in basketball. It has been this way forever.

1) Role players usually play better at home. Stars play the same for the most part. Players are used to shooting on their home court. And the fans give the home team energy. The refs can be effected just like the players. We are all human.

2) The refs can swing momentum at times and make mistakes through out a game just like the players. The refs more often then not will favor the home team. Allowing them to get away with a little more. The road team usually has to be mentally tough and play through contact a bit more. Again nothing new. Especially in the playoffs. To offset the refs bs, all you have to do is one thing....

3) Make shots. Despite the refs, if players make shots, don't turn the ball over excessively, and play through contact they will have a great chance to win. But the bottom line is you have to get buckets It's a make or miss league that offsets the refs mistakes more often than not.

The NBA is not rigged. Golden State missed shots and turned the ball over too much allowing the Cavs to get easy points in transition. Steph took too many chances by reaching in unnecessarily and fouling when he was in foul trouble. Lebron was hot the whole game. All this rig talk is disturbing. Game 6 wasn't even terrible officiating. I've seen a lot worse. The cavs just kicked the warriors ass the last 2 games.

Steph needs to check his wife. She needs to stay off twitter. :lol

[Replay32]

This series would've been over in 5 if Dray hadn't been suspended.

Grow up, man.


But he got suspended. How do you know GS would of won game 5? You sound silly. Can I get the winning lotto numbers?

[kamil]

Tim Donaghy and the FBI disagree.

[jimmy77x]

Tim Donaghy and the FBI disagree.

Exactly :lol league has 0 credibility after that. They pushed for this series to go 7 its so obvious.

[SexSymbol]

tbh there's a lot of people both in power positions and just regular fans who dislike the way G6 was reffed

[bdreason]

I don't think the officiating has decided any game in this series.

That said, it's ironic he used Dirk as an example, because Curry and Dirk are probably the two most disrespected (by the refs) MVP's I've ever seen.

[Relinquish]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Dallas shot four more FTs over the whole six game series.

GS shot 43/33/77 in Game One. 25-22 FT edge to Dallas in Dallas. Obviously the NBA tried everything to rig that specific opening game and couldn

[Relinquish]

I don't think the officiating has decided any game in this series.

That said, it's ironic he used Dirk as an example, because Curry and Dirk are probably the two most disrespected (by the refs) MVP's I've ever seen.

The also are the 2 MVPs who go inside the least in recent memory, hence the fewer foul calls.

[bdreason]

The also are the 2 MVPs who go inside the least in recent memory, hence the fewer foul calls.

It's not about getting FT's. I don't expect Curry to get many FT's. It's about letting the defense grab and hold and handcheck Curry consistently, while simultaneously calling ticky tack fouls on the other side. I'm all for physical basketball, but it needs to be called the same both ways.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

The also are the 2 MVPs who go inside the least in recent memory, hence the fewer foul calls.

Dirk posted up more than a lot of people. Even nowadays, at 37-38, Dirk posts up more than a lot of people. The problem was the rules they enforced for guys Duncan, they didn't enforce it for Dirk.

For example:

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M3d1eff92ef2b24e8a2d04c7135c435a9o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=226&h=170


That is a foul. But that was rarely called when Dirk got the ball. Two hands in the back, etc... were allowed on Dirk, as opposed to people like Duncan, Kobe, etc.

[ILLsmak]

A lot on here could use his advice.

We all complain about bad calls, but acting as if this shit is rigged is ridiculous.

They def have storylines in the game, like giving x player fouls. That shit has been happening. It happened to Iverson in the Finals vs LAL, it is happening to Steph. There are definite momentum affecting calls that are not just 'random.'

However, Stephen is right in that you can ball out above it, especially if you are making shots. I have always believed there is a story line but dudes know when to ease up when something historic is happening. Like say they are going to saddle Curry with fouls and they get him on the bench with 2... if he comes out in the 2nd Q and hits 8 3s, they are probably not going to hate and be like nahhh, get back on the bench with 3 fouls.

It's entertainment, and there is influence. Rigged is a hard word to use because it means different things to different people. I don't think every game is decided... but I do think the NBA influences. I think they have been really bad with their influence this year... as proved by the amount of blow outs. They need to practice some finesse in controlling the games instead of creating these 25 point blow outs every game.

I just hope they can have a legit game 7 without ****ing w/ calls. Call it correct. Let the shit go that they had been letting go, call what they have been calling... don't start imposing new rules in game 7. And hopefully have a historic game. If it's a blowout, that's gonna suck, no matter who wins. Esp if it's because some dude got fouls or a team got in the penalty with 10 minutes left in the quarter.

-Smak

[Euroleague]

The mere fact that Jackson is the one defending the NBA, pretty much solidifies that the NBA is WWE entertainment.

No one with an IQ over 80 could believe one single word that clown says.

[kamil]

Exactly :lol league has 0 credibility after that. They pushed for this series to go 7 its so obvious.

Yup.

[Euroleague]

Ron Artest says so too

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKFVD4YXzeI

A known head case....right, his word is so believable.

[SexSymbol]

A known head case....right, his word is so believable.
artest been one of the realest dudes in the league for a long time, man has no filter and says stuff as he sees it.
We need more people like him character wise aside from elbowing people in the back of the head of course

[Euroleague]

artest been one of the realest dudes in the league for a long time, man has no filter and says stuff as he sees it.
We need more people like him character wise aside from elbowing people in the back of the head of course

Anyone that trusts what guys like Jackson or Artest says is without any doubt either retarded, or has been doing some serious...

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[SexSymbol]

Anyone that trusts what guys like Jackson or Artest says is without any doubt either retarded, or has been doing some serious...

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c'mon man, most of this forum would take artest or Jackson over you in a sanity contest without thinking about it.
Jackson is actually a pretty chill guy, sure he's from the streets and all that, but the dude is smart.
Same with Artest, just because guys have no filter and say what they think, doesn't make them retards, they just don't give a fck.

[masonanddixon]

Man Stephen Jackson has a hardcore ******nose