Metta World Peace: "LeBron is the greatest to ever play"

[Fudge]

https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/status/744723325390196738/video/1

:banana:

He's right.

The greatest basketball player EVER. His career resume just needs some touching up, but that comes with time.

He'll get there.

But from a pure basketball/skill standpoint, he's the best to ever do it.

[Ben Simmons]

Top 3

[inclinerator]

this is a guy that played with prime kobe

[FKAri]

"then they went downs" :lol what?

[Fudge]

this is a guy that played with prime kobe
:lol

[Dray n Klay]

this is a guy that played with prime kobe

Exactly :roll:


But to be fair, after seeing Kobe a choke a Finals Game 7, and having to bail his ass out like Artest did that game, its easy to see a GOAT performance like LeBron and appreciate it :oldlol:

[tmacattack33]

His 2009 and 2012 peaks were right there with MJ's best.

The only problem was that back then the experts were too scared to say it.

Some will say it tonight, or tomorrow.

And some will wait for another ring.

[Lebron23]

His 2009 and 2012 peaks were right there with MJ's best.

The only problem was that back then the experts were too scared to say it.

Some will say it tonight, or tomorrow.

And some will wait for another ring.


This

[JohnFreeman]

this is a guy that played with prime kobe
:roll:

[3ball]

But from a pure basketball/skill standpoint, he's the best to ever do it.


Lebron only averages 1 more assist than Jordan in the playoffs - do you think he would have that tiny edge if he was required to score 15 more ppg than anyone on his team like Jordan?.. Of course not - Lebron has many series (even an entire playoff run) where he wasn't his team's leading scorer.

Otoh, the Bulls needed Jordan to be scoring leader for every series of his career by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920), while still leading the team in passing (Jordan led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49), so he assisted on the highest proportion of teammate field goals).

Jordan's FAR superior scoring while STILL leading his team in passing and also best-ever defense at his position is the goat combination of skill

[kamil]

Oh god, not this delusion shit again. LeBron* fans can have their day of glory but holy **** they need to stop with this MJ comparison. LeBron* is NEVER catching up to MJ... NEVER. That ship sailed in 2011.

[plowking]

There really is no splitting them in terms of peak play, at least in my opinion. They are both unstoppable forces, who play the game a different way. I mean Lebron is averaging something like 30/10/8 over his last 5 finals. Jordan went to 6 finals and put up 33/6/6 in that time. How is that not similar?
He is the greatest elimination game performer ever...

Jordan changed the way greatness is measured, but if LeBron wins 6 or 7 and gets ranked ahead, he will too. For now, perfect in the finals is supposedly the measuring stick. Incredible stats is the measuring stick, etc. LeBron fills at least one of those. If he makes his legacy as the greatest ever, maybe not being knocked out in the first round will be the "next requirement" for GOAT? Maybe being the best elimination game player ever will have to be usurped. Maybe making a certain number of finals, and consistently being one of the last two teams will have to be done.

Greatness is as subjective as it is objective. Objectively, Bron has all the stats, and all the individual accolades, and the dominance Jordan has. Subjectively, his narrative and story in the league is a little different.

[sportjames23]

Oh god, not this delusion shit again. LeBron* fans can have their day of glory but holy **** they need to stop with this MJ comparison. LeBron* is NEVER catching up to MJ... NEVER. That ship sailed in 2011.

:cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

Respeck

[kamil]

There really is no splitting them in terms of peak play, at least in my opinion. They are both unstoppable forces, who play the game a different way. I mean Lebron is averaging something like 30/10/8 over his last 5 finals. Jordan went to 6 finals and put up 33/6/6 in that time. How is that not similar?
He is the greatest elimination game performer ever...

Jordan changed the way greatness is measured, but if LeBron wins 6 or 7 and gets ranked ahead, he will too. For now, perfect in the finals is supposedly the measuring stick. Incredible stats is the measuring stick, etc. LeBron fills at least one of those. If he makes his legacy as the greatest ever, maybe not being knocked out in the first round will be the "next requirement" for GOAT? Maybe being the best elimination game player ever will have to be usurped. Maybe making a certain number of finals, and consistently being one of the last two teams will have to be done.

Greatness is as subjective as it is objective. Objectively, Bron has all the stats, and all the individual accolades, and the dominance Jordan has. Subjectively, his narrative and story in the league is a little different.

Stop commenting.

[plowking]

Stop commenting.

Go to your favourite buffet and eat that bag of d!cks bro.

[ArbitraryWater]

then, then, they went down... DOWNS

:oldlol:

[kamil]

Go to your favourite buffet and eat that bag of d!cks bro.

:rolleyes:

[AirTupac]

Plowking posts reak of cringe :facepalm

One of the worst posters by far.

[Fudge]

MJ... LeBron...

Apples... Oranges...

[plowking]

Plowking posts reak of cringe :facepalm

One of the worst posters by far.

We'd be here all week if we spent time bumping the downright dogshit threads and posts you put on here. Especially in relation to Bron and the Cavs. :oldlol:

You take to many losses on here personally. Let me know if you ever figure out if you spell it vertical or verticle too little one. :oldlol:

[DirkNowitzki41]

Amen.

Little off-topic but its something I find hilarious. When LeBron won his rings with Miami, people were like, "Miami rings dont count as much as 1 Cleveland ring". Now that he did it (which the haters thought wasnt a possibility back then), they're going away from that as much as possible. :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

We'd be here all week if we spent time bumping the downright dogshit threads and posts you put on here. Especially in relation to Bron and the Cavs. :oldlol:

You take to many losses on here personally. Let me know if you ever figure out if you spell it vertical or verticle too little one. :oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[kamil]

We'd be here all week if we spent time bumping the downright dogshit threads and posts you put on here. Especially in relation to Bron and the Cavs. :oldlol:

You take too many losses on here personally. Let me know if you ever figure out if you spell it vertical or verticle too, little one. :oldlol:

Fixed spelling and grammar for you.

[plowking]

Fixed spelling and grammar for you.

lol at you proof reading everything and getting hyped because I backspaced one "o" too many accidentally.

Did I use "too" correctly there? Lemme know. :oldlol:

[3ball]

some misinformation itt

[kamil]

lol at you proof reading everything and getting hyped because I backspaced one "o" too many accidentally.

Did I use "too" correctly there? Lemme know. :oldlol:

Stop commenting, please.

[plowking]

Stop commenting, please.

I can't believe how upset you are over this. You talk about mental toughness, and all this other jazz when it comes to Jordan yet you aren't cool headed enough to sit through a message board that you read casually in your off time.

I'm not even religious, but may the lord help you. Baby Jesus weeps for you.

[kamil]

I can't believe how upset you are over this. You talk about mental toughness, and all this other jazz when it comes to Jordan yet you aren't cool headed enough to sit through a message board that you read casually in your off time.

I'm not even religious, but may the lord help you. Baby Jesus weeps for you.

Nobody wants to hear your delusional bullshit.

[3ball]

Nobody wants to hear your delusional bullshit.
he really does make up his own narrative, based on zero facts or stats

[3ball]

Lebron is averaging something like 30/10/8 over his last 5 finals. Jordan went to 6 finals and put up 33/6/6 in that time. How is that not similar?


We don't have to cherry-pick Finals with Jordan - he was great in every Finals and won every Finals.

Lebron falls short of Jordan's playoff or Finals performance, whether you compare statistically, clutch, or any other way.. Unless you cherry-pick, which means you're wrong.





Jordan changed the way greatness is measured, but if LeBron wins 6 or 7 and gets ranked ahead, he will too.


That's a big if.. A highly unlikely one - Vegas would tell you the same.





If he makes his legacy as the greatest ever, maybe being the best elimination game player ever will be the new goat standard. Maybe making a certain number of finals, and consistently being one of the last two teams will have to be done.


You've contradicted yourself - in your previous post above, you said Lebron will be GOAT if he wins 6 or 7 rings.

Now you're saying the definition of GOAT could be some bullshit like elimination game averages.. Sorry bud - you had it right the first time - RINGS is the biggest factor determining goatness for all-time greats - always has and always will





Objectively, Bron has all the individual accolades Jordan has.


Lebron has HALF the Finals MVP's of Jordan.. Half... That's half bud (half)





Objectively, Bron has all the stats, and all the individual accolades, and the dominance Jordan has. Subjectively, his narrative and story in the league is a little different.


Jordan's playoff and Finals stats are better than Lebron's - look it up - Jordan scored far more on better efficiency, while only getting 1 less assist..

And would Lebron still have that tiny assist edge if he was required to average 15 more ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) than anyone on his team like Jordan did for his entire playoff career?... Obviously not - Lebron has many series where he wasn't the team's leading scorer (even an entire playoff run).

Specifically, Jordan scored 5.5 more ppg with better efficiency, which is more valuable, requires more energy, and controls the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge and 1.0 assist edge.. There's never been a #1 option that scored nearly 6 more points on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.. :confusedshrug:

[NBAGOAT]

I have Lebron's peak top 3 or 4. It's not quite Jordan's peak but it's not a bad comparison. Shaqattack thought 90 Jordan vs 09 Lebron was a decent comparison way back and 90 Jordan has a case for Jordan's peak.

[Fudge]

plowking is winning this argument.

FACTS ONLY.

[plowking]

Nobody wants to hear your delusional bullshit.


Your whole shtick on this board was writing Lebron with an *. That was 90% of your material on here.
I casually converse with people on here 90% of the time, while you sit behind your computer fuming.

You literally spend your off time fuming and hate talking on the message board, while I use it for a bit of fun. End of the day, I win.

Keep replying though. I'm at work with not a whole lot to do today. I can keep it up.

[plowking]

he really does make up his own narrative, based on zero facts or stats

You just replied to my post which had statistics in them. How can you even write anything this stupid? :oldlol:
All I did was comment that basketball greatness is largely dominated by narrative. I don't really care for it. My opinion is there have been players as good as Jordan. Bron is one of them. Deal with it. Your shitty posting isn't going to change peoples opinions.

[kamil]

Your whole shtick on this board was writing Lebron with an *. That was 90% of your material on here.
I casually converse with people on here 90% of the time, while you sit behind your computer fuming.

You literally spend your off time fuming and hate talking on the message board, while I use it for a bit of fun. End of the day, I win.

Keep replying though. I'm at work with not a whole lot to do today. I can keep it up.

The asterisk clearly bothers you. Stop fuming. Relax. LeBron* is now in the top 10 category, you can sleep well now.

[3ball]

You just replied to my post which had statistics in them. How can you even write anything this stupid? :oldlol:
All I did was comment that basketball greatness is largely dominated by narrative. I don't really care for it. My opinion is there have been players as good as Jordan. Bron is one of them. Deal with it. Your shitty posting isn't going to change peoples opinions.
you never refute any of my points because you can't - they're all facts, whereas you must cherry-pick to prop up your guy

so i'm fine with you never refuting anything i say, and me refuting all the bs you say

[plowking]

The asterisk clearly bothers you. Stop fuming. Relax. LeBron* is now in the top 10 category, you can sleep well now.

Stop commenting with the *, please. I can't deal with it. I'm fuming.


He is in your top 10?! Really?
Thank f*ck. I thought you still had him outside of the top 10. Your arbitrary list means a lot to me and the basketball community on ISH.

[plowking]

you never refute any of my points because you can't - they're all facts, whereas you must cherry-pick to prop up your guy

so i'm fine with you never refuting anything i say, and me refuting all the bs you say

I know, right?

[Cleverness]

Metta World Peace also called the Warriors the greatest team ever.

[LeBird]

you never refute any of my points because you can't - they're all facts, whereas you must cherry-pick to prop up your guy

so i'm fine with you never refuting anything i say, and me refuting all the bs you say

In just over 2 years you have 12k posts saying the same Jordan jocker shit over and over again. You're actually making him less popular :lol

Kill yourself already.

[Bankaii]

Metta World Peace also called the Warriors the greatest team ever.
Well to be fair the Warriors at their best could easily be argued the GOAT team.
The only issue is that Steph/Klay could go cold at any random point and completely shut down.

[3ball]

In just over 2 years you have 12k posts saying the same Jordan jocker shit over and over again. You're actually making him less popular :lol

Kill yourself already.


That's another reason you know Jordan is the GOAT - he has the goat posters and goat fans advocating on his behalf.

Btw, you mad.. lol

[Dray n Klay]

That's another reason you know Jordan is the GOAT - he has the goat posters and goat fans advocating on his behalf.

Btw, you mad.. lol

How does it feel knowing that Jordan isnt the GOAT anymore? :confusedshrug:

[LeBird]

That's another reason you know Jordan is the GOAT - he has the goat posters and goat fans advocating on his behalf.

Btw, you mad.. lol

GOAT poster...you're consensus worst poster on this website. https://forum.sectioneighty.com/data/emoticons/0/aa8da4e952a8fe52f3668350fba1e3e4.png

I'm mad? Lebron just won another ring and you're here doing damage control https://forum.sectioneighty.com/data/emoticons/0/aa8da4e952a8fe52f3668350fba1e3e4.png

[plowking]

That's another reason you know Jordan is the GOAT - he has the goat posters and goat fans advocating on his behalf.

Btw, you mad.. lol

Is this a copy and pasted post from you or an actual on the fly post?

Just wondering?

[NBAGOAT]

Is this a copy and pasted post from you or an actual on the fly post?

Just wondering?

:roll: this might be the most hilarious shit I've seen from 3ball.

[3ball]

Is this a copy and pasted post from you or an actual on the fly post?

Just wondering?


Off the cuff - I'm relaxed and free as a bird - the more accolades Lebron accumulates, the greater it makes Jordan look, since his accolades are greater.

Lebron has half the Finals MVP's, and half the championships, so he has half the individual and team accomplishments... that's half son

[3ball]

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Jordan's playoff and Finals stats are much better than Lebron's - look it up - Jordan scored far more with better efficiency, while only getting 1 less assist..

And would Lebron have the tiny assist edge if he was required to lead his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career by an average 15 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) like Jordan did?... Obviously not - Lebron has many series where he wasn't the team's leading scorer (even an entire playoff run).. Furthermore, NO all-time great led his team in scoring for every playoff series of their career, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan (let that sink in).

Specifically, Jordan scored 5.5 more ppg with better efficiency, which is more valuable, requires more energy, and controls the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge and 1.0 assist edge.. There's never been a #1 option that scored nearly 6 more points on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.. :confusedshrug:

Btw, in addition to Jordan's goat scoring load, he also led his team in passing, just like Lebron - Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49), so he assisted on the highest proportion of teammate field goals.. Ultimately, Jordan's goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the goat performance and biggest load ever carried.
.

[alleykat]

That's another reason you know Jordan is the GOAT - he has the goat posters and goat fans advocating on his behalf.

Btw, you mad.. lol

Hahah...MJ wouldn't mean a thing without them goat posters :applause:

Guess Bron gotta get a street team like that to be considered relevant...