3balls excuse for 1-9 is that Jordan had 0 all-star teammates

[Dray n Klay]

WELL LEBRON JUST WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 0 ALL STAR TEAMMATES




So 1-9 vs winning a championship against a 73 win team?? :lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:

[Bawkish]

2015 Cavs?

[theaussieguy]

agreed, Lebron just put himself head and shoulders over Jordan

[KiiiiNG]

WELL LEBRON JUST WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 0 ALL STAR TEAMMATES




So 1-9 vs winning a championship against a 73 win team?? :lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:
****ing savage!

[3ball]

3balls excuse for 1-9 is that Jordan had 0 all-star teammates


That's PART of the excuse, since Lebron missed the playoffs twice despite having an all-star center - so obviously, Jordan is superior since he never missed the playoffs despite having no all-star teammates like Lebron always did.

But the OTHER reason is that Jordan simply played in a much tougher conference that required him to defeat THREE TIMES as many 50-win teams during his playoff career, as ESPN pointed out (http://i.imgur.com/yz8FH5x.jpg).

So while Lebron didn't have to play championship-level teams until the Finals, Jordan was playing the champs in the first round... For example, 22-year old Lebron didn't have to play the Spurs championship team and #1 defense until the Finals (22 ppg on 35%), whereas 22-year old Jordan played the champion 86' Celtics and their #1 defense in the 1st Round (44 ppg on 50%).. yikes

[Dray n Klay]

That's PART of the excuse, since Lebron missed the playoffs twice despite having an all-star center - so obviously, Jordan is superior since he never missed the playoffs despite having no all-star teammates like Lebron always did.

But the OTHER reason is that Jordan simply played in a much tougher conference that required him to defeat THREE TIMES as many 50-win teams during his playoff career, as ESPN pointed out (http://i.imgur.com/yz8FH5x.jpg).

So while Lebron didn't have to play championship-level teams until the Finals, Jordan was playing the champs in the first round... For example, 22-year old Lebron didn't have to play the Spurs championship team and #1 defense until the Finals (22 ppg on 35%), whereas 22-year old Jordan played the championship Celtics and their #1 defense in the 1st Round (44 ppg on 50%).. yikes


Why did Jordan lose in the 1st round with 0 all-star teammates, while LeBron won a championship with 0 all star teammates vs a 73 win team?

:confusedshrug:



Winning a championship vs 1-9 with an identical roster

[3ball]

Why did Jordan lose in the 1st round with 0 all-star teammates, while LeBron won a championship with 0 all star teammates vs a 73 win team?


Playing dumb makes you look bad - everyone knows that Kyrie and Love are in their prime and were all-stars when Lebron arrived in Cleveland - you're not fooling anyone.. Otoh, Jordan's 1-9 was alongside guys who were never all-stars.

Also, Jordan won his first ring without any "current" all-stars (like Lebron this year) and he won 2 more rings with just 1 all-star (Pippen) - whereas Lebron has always needed at least 2 all-stars (Wade/Bosh or Love/Kyrie).





Why did Jordan lose in the 1st round with 0 all-star teammates


Lebron missed the playoffs twice WITH an all-star, while Jordan never missed the playoffs despite not having an all-star.

And again - Jordan simply played in a much tougher conference that required him to defeat THREE TIMES as many 50-win teams during his playoff career, as ESPN pointed out (http://i.imgur.com/yz8FH5x.jpg).

So while Lebron didn't have to play championship-level teams until the Finals, Jordan was playing the champs in the first round... For example, 22-year old Lebron didn't have to play the Spurs championship team and #1 defense until the Finals (22 ppg on 35%), whereas 22-year old Jordan played the championship Celtics and their #1 defense in the 1st Round (44 ppg on 50%).. yikes

[LongLiveTheKing]

WELL LEBRON JUST WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 0 ALL STAR TEAMMATES




So 1-9 vs winning a championship against a 73 win team?? :lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:

WHAT A TIME :rockon:

[sportjames23]

Playing dumb makes you look bad - everyone knows that Kyrie and Love are in their prime and were all-stars when Lebron arrived in Cleveland - you're not fooling anyone.. Otoh, Jordan's 1-9 was alongside guys who were never all-stars.

Also, Jordan won his first ring without any "current" all-stars (like Lebron this year) and he won 2 more rings with just 1 all-star (Pippen) - whereas Lebron has always needed at least 2 all-stars (Wade/Bosh or Love/Kyrie).



Lebron missed the playoffs twice WITH an all-star, while Jordan never missed the playoffs despite not having an all-star.

And again - Jordan simply played in a much tougher conference that required him to defeat THREE TIMES as many 50-win teams during his playoff career, as ESPN pointed out (http://i.imgur.com/yz8FH5x.jpg).

So while Lebron didn't have to play championship-level teams until the Finals, Jordan was playing the champs in the first round... For example, 22-year old Lebron didn't have to play the Spurs championship team and #1 defense until the Finals (22 ppg on 35%), whereas 22-year old Jordan played the championship Celtics and their #1 defense in the 1st Round (44 ppg on 50%).. yikes


It's like talking to a brick wall with that one, 3ball. :banghead:

[Dray n Klay]

1-9 makes me so mad :banghead:

I know, I know

[NBAGOAT]

It's like talking to a brick wall with that one, 3ball. :banghead:

these 2 guys arguing is the definition of an unstoppable force vs an immovable object.

[Gileraracer]

But Lebron had an extra teammate, the refs

[Poetry]

Didn't Kyrie just average over 27 PPG in the Finals?

[rodman91]

WELL LEBRON JUST WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 0 ALL STAR TEAMMATES




So 1-9 vs winning a championship against a 73 win team?? :lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ki2obCyAQS5WhFe/giphy.gif

[fourkicks44]

WELL LEBRON JUST WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 0 ALL STAR TEAMMATES




So 1-9 vs winning a championship against a 73 win team?? :lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:

You had a win today, boy. Why are you trying so hard to chase a L? :oldlol:




http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/cavaliers/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/150129-ky-all-star-1.jpg

[Dray n Klay]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/dam/assets/160128192007-20160128-inside-east-allstar-reserves-00020605.1200x672.jpg

http://checkmyathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/lineup-1024x1024.jpg


These were the all-stars this year.


None were LeBrons teammates

[fourkicks44]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/dam/assets/160128192007-20160128-inside-east-allstar-reserves-00020605.1200x672.jpg

http://checkmyathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/lineup-1024x1024.jpg


These were the all-stars this year.


None were LeBrons teammates

Kyrie is an All-Star MVP. He out played the two time league MVP in 7 games. Give him some credit.

Please do yourself a favour, go out and celebrate and quit posting shit.

[Poetry]

These were the all-stars this year.


None were LeBrons teammates

If you're going by those standards, then Jordan won two titles without all-stars.

[sekachu]

WELL LEBRON JUST WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 0 ALL STAR TEAMMATES




So 1-9 vs winning a championship against a 73 win team?? :lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :hammertime: :hammertime:



:facepalm Irving is playing damn great in the final.

[diamenz]

“I mean, it’s always difficult to deal with me,” James said after finishing with 23 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists in 34 minutes in Thursday’s win. “I think it adds even more when you have two all-stars with you, two guys that command multiple eyes any possession. I’ve been able to just pick my spots and do other things to help us try and win ballgames while those guys take the load.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/05/20/no-one-in-the-east-can-nor-will-measure-up-to-cleveland-cavaliers-any-time-soon/

straight from james' mouth. gg dray.

[Dray n Klay]

Why did Jordan lose in the 1st round with 0 all-star teammates, while LeBron won a championship with 0 all star teammates vs a 73 win team?





Winning a championship vs 1-9 with an identical roster

[3ball]

It's easy to prove that Lebron's supporting cast was superior: Lebron won 19 more games in 2009 than Jordan won in 1989, even though their individual stats were equal.. The only way Lebron's equal production can yield 19 more wins is due to a better supporting cast, and probably inferior competition as well.

Lebron didn't benefit from brand of basketball - we know Jordan's brand was better because it thrived and was more successful in the higher-competition playoffs.. Jordan's 6th seeded Bulls beat higher seeds in every round and took the champs to 6 games in ECF, whereas Lebron's favored 1 seed saw their brand of basketball exposed by Howard's underdog Magic.

And we saw Jordan's goat impact on that 1989 team - the 47-win Bulls would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without Jordan's 33/8/8.. So they were a LOTTERY roster without Jordan in 1989, that Jordan led a 3-peat beginning in 1991 - that's the goat impact on a lottery team.

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron had 0 all-stars on his roster this season, and won the championship vs a 73 win team.



Otoh, MJ also had no all-stars from 1985-1987, but instead went 1-9 in the first round.





Championship + FMVP vs. 1-9 in the first round with identical rosters.




Thats the difference between LeBron and Jordan.

[TheWinningFam]

It's easy to prove that Lebron's supporting cast was superior: Lebron won 19 more games in 2009 than Jordan won in 1989, even though their individual stats were equal.. The only way Lebron's equal production can yield 19 more wins is due to a better supporting cast, and probably inferior competition as well.

Lebron didn't benefit from brand of basketball - we know Jordan's brand was better because it thrived and was more successful in the higher-competition playoffs.. Jordan's 6th seeded Bulls beat higher seeds in every round and took the champs to 6 games in ECF, whereas Lebron's favored 1 seed saw their brand of basketball exposed by Howard's underdog Magic.

And we saw Jordan's goat impact on that 1989 team - the 47-win Bulls would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without Jordan's 33/8/8.. So they were a LOTTERY roster without Jordan in 1989, that Jordan led a 3-peat beginning in 1991 - that's the goat impact on a lottery team.

It is required that lebron be the team's best Scorer passer rebounder and defender, we know this because when he doesn't they lose,and when he does if his teammates play to a decent level at best, they always win. in otoh jordan has never had this task and at most had to score more which is much easier to do.

Think about it, Lebron had to Lead both teams in every statistical category for 2 straight finals to go 1/2 against a team (73-9) better than any team jordan faced in his 6 finals, all with ZERO all stars, ordan didn't accomplish this feat once, this was due to having a superior supporting cast + facing weaker competition.

So you're saying jordan would lead both teams in every statistical category against a tougher team than any he's faced, when he couldn't do it with a better team and weaker competition in a faster paced era?:roll: :roll:

[Hey Yo]

It's easy to prove that Lebron's supporting cast was superior: Lebron won 19 more games in 2009 than Jordan won in 1989, even though their individual stats were equal.. The only way Lebron's equal production can yield 19 more wins is due to a better supporting cast, and probably inferior competition as well.

Lebron didn't benefit from brand of basketball - we know Jordan's brand was better because it thrived and was more successful in the higher-competition playoffs.. Jordan's 6th seeded Bulls beat higher seeds in every round and took the champs to 6 games in ECF, whereas Lebron's favored 1 seed saw their brand of basketball exposed by Howard's underdog Magic.

And we saw Jordan's goat impact on that 1989 team - the 47-win Bulls would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without Jordan's 33/8/8.. So they were a LOTTERY roster without Jordan in 1989, that Jordan led a 3-peat beginning in 1991 - that's the goat impact on a lottery team.
Yes....the biggest postseason game in his career to date in 1989 was game 5 against Detroit in the ECF with the series tied at 2.

MJ takes 8 total FGA, the Bulls lose by 9 and go on the lose the series.

Goat impact alright....:rolleyes:

[Trollsmasher]

let's not forget that Jordan is 194-198 in his career without Pippen

that's right

the "GOAT" couldn't get a winning record without an all star, TOP 5 SF of all time teammate:lol

[imdaman99]

So Lebron has his 'non all star' teammate hit the series winning 3? Wow, so impressive!!!!! :roll:

[KG215]

Didn't Kyrie just average over 27 PPG in the Finals?
Yes, and the only reason he wasn't an All-Star is because he missed 25 games, most which came before the All-Star break. Not to mention both Kyrie and Love were All-Stars the previous three seasons. But let the OP have his fun. He's trolling fanboy and those type of posters tend to ignore all context and logic.

[diamenz]

bron stans are such simpletons it just blows my mind. i forgive ya'll though - your brains aren't fully developed yet and probably never will be.