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LongLiveTheKing
06-20-2016, 06:09 AM
Kobe - 24 points, 15 rebounds, 2 assists, 6-24 FG, 0-6 3FG
Steph - 17 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 6-19 FG, 4-14 3FG


Both pretty bad performances although Kobe got the W. Neither hit any clutch shots and bricked shots all game.

Who do you guys got? Discuss. :cheers:

JohnFreeman
06-20-2016, 06:09 AM
At least Kobe can play a lick of defense

RoundMoundOfReb
06-20-2016, 06:10 AM
I thought steph scored 17? Anyways, Steph by far. Kobe was pretty decent down the stretch of that game iirc.

LongLiveTheKing
06-20-2016, 06:11 AM
I thought steph scored 17? Anyways, Steph by far. Kobe was pretty decent down the stretch of that game iirc.

Correct he did have 17 :cheers:

LBJ 23
06-20-2016, 06:11 AM
Steph. Kobe was shooting bad but overall he impacted the game way more than Curry.

DMAVS41
06-20-2016, 06:11 AM
Steph much worse...honestly not comparable. Kobe was going against the 08 Celtics defensively and wasn't getting roasted on the other end like Curry was in key situations.

aj1987
06-20-2016, 06:12 AM
Kobe and it's not close.

DMAVS41
06-20-2016, 06:13 AM
Kobe and it's not close.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

SexSymbol
06-20-2016, 06:13 AM
LeBron. Absolutely passive throughout the whole game reminiscent of 2011 finals. Had a few good plays in the 4th but not as many as Kobe and got completely carried by Irving in the 2nd half.

RoundMoundOfReb
06-20-2016, 06:13 AM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
I think he meant Kobe was better.

LongLiveTheKing
06-20-2016, 06:14 AM
LeBron. Absolutely passive throughout the whole game reminiscent of 2011 finals. Had a few good plays in the 4th but not as many as Kobe and got completely carried by Irving in the 2nd half.
The meltdown continues :oldlol:

sportjames23
06-20-2016, 06:20 AM
Kobe and it's not close.

:biggums:

SexSymbol
06-20-2016, 06:25 AM
The meltdown continues :oldlol:
Read the game thread, everybody was calling choke, even his supporters.
He was horrible throughout the whole game, there's no other way to put it.
And this is coming from one of his weakest haters as I like the guy a lot, but he was trash in G7 regardless of the statline. Hesitant, not knowing what to do, missing shots left and right and with staggeringly bad defense

Mr Feeny
06-20-2016, 06:28 AM
They're both awful in finals.

Curry will have a chance to right the ship next year

Kobe's legacy is 6/24. He's a career 25%fg shooter in finals game 7's and a career 41% overall in finals.

He also a shocking 39%fg 21 ppg scorer in elimination games.

aj1987
06-20-2016, 06:32 AM
:biggums:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I meant Kobe was significantly better.

Deuce Bigalow
06-20-2016, 06:32 AM
Kobe 11/15 FT
Steph 1/1 FT

aj1987
06-20-2016, 06:33 AM
Kobe 11/15 FT
Steph 1/1 FT
Yeah, he shouldn't have been jacking up 14 3's.

Mr Feeny
06-20-2016, 06:37 AM
Kobe 11/15 FT
Steph 1/1 FT

Agree. Kobe used 7-8 more possessions. On worse efficiency.

LongLiveTheKing
06-20-2016, 06:37 AM
In the 4th quarter Steph had 3 points on 1-6 shooting and 0 points in the last 6:56 of the game :lol

sportjames23
06-20-2016, 06:40 AM
I meant Kobe was significantly better.

I was about to say, bruh. :oldlol:

Mr Feeny
06-20-2016, 06:40 AM
In the 4th quarter Steph had 3 points on 1-6 shooting and 0 points in the last 6:56 of the game :lol

Wow. That's just awful.

Gileraracer
06-20-2016, 07:10 AM
In the 4th quarter Steph had 3 points on 1-6 shooting and 0 points in the last 6:56 of the game :lol

Lebronesque 4th quarter :facepalm

KingPush
06-20-2016, 07:12 AM
Lebronesque 4th quarter :facepalm
Bron had 11 points in the 4th, leading all players

LongLiveTheKing
06-20-2016, 07:13 AM
Bron had 11 points in the 4th, leading all players
:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:

Gileraracer
06-20-2016, 07:16 AM
Bron had 11 points in the 4th, leading all players

Only thing I remember is him bricking 5 shots in a row to close out the game and Kyrie saving his ass

aj1987
06-20-2016, 07:20 AM
Only thing I remember is him bricking 5 shots in a row to close out the game and Kyrie saving his ass
LeBron made the 3 and 3 FT's in a row, which put them back into the game, warriorfan. What exactly did Curry do in the 4th?

NBASTATMAN
06-20-2016, 07:37 AM
BOTH ARE BAD ,

THAT IS A LONG DISCUSSION... THE KOBE/CURRY FAMILY SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ... :roll: :rockon:

brownmamba00
06-20-2016, 07:38 AM
kobe scored 10 points on 4 shots in that 4th quarter

steph is good but he shouldn't be compared to all time greats like kobe

straight chokejob these last 3 games

the choir boy was shook bullied :facepalm

1Time4YourMind
06-20-2016, 07:49 AM
Lol at least Kobe grabbed rebounds (which secures possessions) and didn't throw needless behind the back passes that went out of bounds in humiliating fashion. 24/15 is a decent statline even tho his shooting was otherwordly horrible.

Curry lost at home. Game 7. Despite the 73 wins. Had more turnovers than assists. If you have someone else on your team put up 32/15/9 on 15 freaking shots the least you can do is not choke the game away with horrible forced 3's.

If you are the 1st unanimous MVP in history you better live up to that title. Which he most resoundingly did not last night.

ImKobe
06-20-2016, 07:54 AM
the discrepancy in points and rebounds alone should tell you who had the better game

plus Kobe had 10 points in the 4th quarter and had the assist on the dagger 3 followed by FTs that iced the game

Curry had what, 3 points in the 4th? and missed his last 4 shots and had a terrible turnover in the last 5 minutes and got the game-winner drilled right in his face

not to mention the fact that Draymond Green put up prime Lebron numbers in the game and scored 32 on 15 shots and you don't get him the ball down the stretch

and then there's the fact that Kobe won

Andrei89
06-20-2016, 08:33 AM
Kobe can defend

ArbitraryWater
06-20-2016, 09:15 AM
Pretty equally shitty... not sure why people slide with Curry as worse.

Kobe's only difference comes in grabbing a bunch of defensive rebounds.

Both low in assists.... Kobe 24 on 6/24, Steph 17 on 6/19... Kobe got to the line, although some of those were just BS calls.

Both were fairly shitty even in the last period... Curry 1-6, Kobe 1-4...

just two facepalm performances. Legacy killing. But Kobe can thank the gods for Gasol and Artest.


Lol at Kobe and the defense argument. Guy just sagged off several feet of Rondo.

West-Side
06-20-2016, 09:23 AM
Only thing I remember is him bricking 5 shots in a row to close out the game and Kyrie saving his ass

Also missed a key free throw.
Dude sucked dick in the final 5 minutes. Ball hogged the ball every possession until Kyrie finally saved his ass.

Im Still Ballin
06-20-2016, 09:25 AM
Also missed a key free throw.
Dude sucked dick in the final 5 minutes. Ball hogged the ball every possession until Kyrie finally saved his ass.
3 FMVPs.

tmacattack33
06-20-2016, 10:57 AM
Steph much worse...honestly not comparable. Kobe was going against the 08 Celtics defensively and wasn't getting roasted on the other end like Curry was in key situations.

Game 7 was in 2010.

In 2008 the Celtics won in 6 I believe.

Thorn
06-20-2016, 11:25 AM
Pretty equally shitty... not sure why people slide with Curry as worse.

Kobe's only difference comes in grabbing a bunch of defensive rebounds.

Both low in assists.... Kobe 24 on 6/24, Steph 17 on 6/19... Kobe got to the line, although some of those were just BS calls.

Both were fairly shitty even in the last period... Curry 1-6, Kobe 1-4...

just two facepalm performances. Legacy killing. But Kobe can thank the gods for Gasol and Artest.


Lol at Kobe and the defense argument. Guy just sagged off several feet of Rondo.
Neither played that well but I really do think Curry's game was quite a bit worse for a few reasons.

-Even though Kobe shot 6/24, he still ended up being the leading scorer. Not efficient at all, BUT no one shot well that game and he still had 10 or so in the 4th. He was still able to put points on the board through FTs even if he went 1/4 in the 4th.

-Rebounding. Game 7 2010 was decided on the rebounding battle and Kobe had 15. Lakers were +13 vs Boston there, Warriors were -9 vs Cavs.

-Circumstances. Unanimous MVP losing a Game 7 at home and blowing a 3-1 lead in a terrible game? That's so unbelievably bad. Yes, I know Bogut was out and Iggy was hurt, but that game was up for grabs basically the entire 4th quarter. Curry had 3 points in the 4th on 1/6 and a careless TO. He had his chances. For what it's worth, the Lakers were down 3-2 and came back to win the series.

-I'd say the supporting casts gave them roughly the same amount of support. Draymond had by far the best performance but Pau/Artest had pretty good games as well, especially for what the Lakers needed vs Boston.

-TOs - even though Curry and Kobe both had 4, their TO% (TO/100 plays) is much more favored towards Kobe in their Game 7. Kobe's usage was higher so his TO% ended up at 11.6% and Curry was at 17.1%.

Also, this is an aside, but I really didn't feel like Curry played with any urgency. Like...all but one of his shots in the 4th were threes. That behind the back turnover garbage... I was just so confused. Get the damn paint man and draw some fouls. It's Game 7 of the Finals. I was honestly just baffled with his 4th quarter. Honestly, the Cavs did really well playing him physical and tight and all that but...Lebron left everything he had on the court (that freaking block was insane) and I didn't see the same effort from Curry. Again, that's just me.

Neither of these games are very good. But Kobe played better by just enough to take the series. I guess I would say that Kobe's game was below average to bad and Curry's was a train wreck :cheers:

I honestly can't believe that the Cavs won that game lol. I really thought the Warriors would blow the game open at some point. Draymond was on fire the entire game, Cavs were terrible from three, but they hung around long enough and made juuuust enough plays to give Kyrie and Lebron the chance to take the series. Tremendous respect for them two. Even Love made that huge play at the end to stay with Curry and not give him an open look. Lebron legitimately won me over with his play as a huge underdog. Seriously amazing.

Honest question - is that Kyrie 3 a bigger shot than the Allen 3? That shot was the ballsiest shot I've ever seen. Ray HAD to take that three, but the game was tied with a minute left when Kyrie made that shot.

aj1987
06-20-2016, 11:31 AM
Also missed a key free throw.
Dude sucked dick in the final 5 minutes. Ball hogged the ball every possession until Kyrie finally saved his ass.
I think you're confusing Kobe and Pau with LeBron and Kyrie.

https://swishnba.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/photo.jpg

SouBeachTalents
06-20-2016, 02:11 PM
Kobes was significantly better. Curry had absolutely no impact last night and was miserable in the 4th

HOoopCityJones
06-20-2016, 02:26 PM
Pretty equally shitty... not sure why people slide with Curry as worse.

Kobe's only difference comes in grabbing a bunch of defensive rebounds.

Both low in assists.... Kobe 24 on 6/24, Steph 17 on 6/19... Kobe got to the line, although some of those were just BS calls.

Both were fairly shitty even in the last period... Curry 1-6, Kobe 1-4...

just two facepalm performances. Legacy killing. But Kobe can thank the gods for Gasol and Artest.


Lol at Kobe and the defense argument. Guy just sagged off several feet of Rondo.


Because what use is that in a series that had been decided handidly by who out rebounded who...:facepalm


Please do us all a favor and quit talking about Basketball because it's been obvious to a lot of us for a long time that you do not watch it more so than watch box scores and ESPN recaps.

ArbitraryWater
06-20-2016, 02:29 PM
Because what use is that in a series that had been decided handidly by who out rebounded who...:facepalm


Please do us all a favor and quit talking about Basketball because it's been obvious to a lot of us for a long time that you do not watch it more so than watch box scores and ESPN recaps.

ESPN recaps would do you a huge favor actually..

every time Kobe had his patented 6-18 performances, theyd show the few makes he had. No word on the misses.

LongLiveTheKing
06-20-2016, 04:46 PM
Consensus is Kobe's game was better