Love only averaged 8 ppg?.. That's partly why MJ would've beaten GSW much easier

[3ball]

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Pippen and Grant played between 90-100% capacity alongside Jordan, compared to their stats without Jordan:



PIPPEN 1992:. 21.0 ppg.. 7.7 rpg.. 7.1 apg.. 50.6 fg
PIPPEN 1994:. 22.0 ppg.. 8.7 rpg.. 5.6 apg.. 49.1 fg

GRANT 1992:. 14/10 on 57.8 fg
GRANT 1994:. 15/11 on 52.4 fg



That's a big difference from Love being reduced from a 26/13 superstar to an 8 ppg scrub alongside Lebron.. :confusedshrug:

Love would've played much better alongside Jordan just like Grant did, so Jordan would've destroyed these Warriors worse than Lebron did

[Nilocon165]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEjHNQ2nkJB74VwFW/giphy.gif

From the bottom of my heart, go **** yourself :rockon:

[bigkingsfan]

Jordan lost to the Pistons three straight times, let that sink in.

[SouBeachTalents]

So when LeBron's teammates play well, you make this thread http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=411790

And when they don't, you make this one

Just FYI, Jordan never did this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClX-sSOUsAE3Dlg.jpg

[Dray n Klay]

OP keeps rambling on about ambiguous topics and stuff, but the only clear facts we know is that Jordan went 1-9 with a roster identical to this years Cavs.

[plowking]

Bron just had a better finals than Jordan ever had.

https://67.media.tumblr.com/cbd2a715ac8b9e7b7b6303aa6e0b3876/tumblr_nt004ngflC1rdutw3o1_400.gif

[Lebronxrings]

List if 70 win teams Jordan beat:

[Segatti]

1-9

[Black Magic]

1-9

6/6

[Alan]

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Pippen and Grant played between 90-100% capacity alongside Jordan, compared to their stats without Jordan:



PIPPEN 1992:. 21.0 ppg.. 7.7 rpg.. 7.1 apg.. 50.6 fg
PIPPEN 1994:. 22.0 ppg.. 8.7 rpg.. 5.6 apg.. 49.1 fg

GRANT 1992:. 14/10 on 57.8 fg
GRANT 1994:. 15/11 on 52.4 fg



That's a big difference from Love being reduced from a 26/13 superstar to an 8 ppg scrub alongside Lebron.. :confusedshrug:

Love would've played much better alongside Jordan just like Grant did, so Jordan would've destroyed these Warriors worse than Lebron did
Those are post-Jordan numbers. If you want to compare, show pre-Jordan numbers or wait until there is post-LeBron Kevin Love numbers.

[Segatti]

6/6

0/0 without Pippen.

[3ball]

Jordan went 1-9 with a roster identical to this years Cavs.


His supporting cast was one of the worst ever - the numbers tell the story - Jordan's 1989 cast added enough help on top of his 33/8/8 to win 47 games - compare that to Lebron's cast in 2009, which added enough help on top of his 28/8/7 to win 66 games..

The only possible reasons for the Cavs winning 19 more games despite Lebron's inferior production is that his supporting cast was better and/or they played inferior competition.. Obviously, the 19 additional wins isn't ONLY due to inferior competition - it's due to better supporting cast as well.

Brand of basketball isn't an issue - we know Jordan's 1989 team played a better brand of basketball because his brand was more successful in the playoffs.. Jordan's 6th seeded Bulls beat higher seeds in every round and took the champs to 6 games in ECF, while Lebron's heavily-favored 1 seed saw their brand of basketball exposed in the 2nd Round by the Magic.

Also, there's another reason Jordan's cast might've been the worst ever - no all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their career, let alone by 15 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) like Jordan.. Let that sink in

And Jordan's impact on his horrible cast is clearly evident - in 1989, the 47-win Bulls would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without Jordan's 33/8/8.. So without Jordan, that roster was a LOTTERY roster and headed nowhere going into the 1990 season - but WITH Jordan, they were ECF veterans and about to begin a 6-peat dynasty.. Essentially, Jordan led that same lottery roster from 1989 to a 3-peat beginning 2 seasons later - that's the goat impact on a lottery team.

[FKAri]

"Someone on Lebron's team played poor?"
-OP makes this thread

"Someone on Lebron's team played well?"
OP makes this thread:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=411790

I see you got your bases covered OP. Good night.

[Black Magic]

0/0 without Pippen.

he only played like 3 seasons as a bull without him and those were his first few seasons :roll:

nice try tho

6/6

[3ball]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClX-sSOUsAE3Dlg.jpg


Jordan can't do this


Lebron can't be the goat scorer by averaging an 5.5 more points in the playoffs with only 1 less assist like Jordan (this means Jordan was far superior - he scored WAY more with nearly the same assists)..

Nor can Lebron lead his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career by an average of 15 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) - he has many series where he wasn't the leading scorer, including an entire playoff run.. Infact, NO all-time great ever led their team in scoring for every series, let alone by an average of 15 ppg like Jordan.

Ultimately, Jordan averaged a whopping 5.5 more points in the playoffs with better efficiency across the board (ts, fg, ortg) - this is more valuable, requires more energy, and controls the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge and 1.0 assist edge.. There's never been a #1 option that averaged 5.5 more points on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.
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[3ball]

"Someone on Lebron's team played poor?"
-OP makes this thread

"Someone on Lebron's team played well?"
OP makes this thread:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=411790


ALL of Jordan's key teammates played to full capacity alongside him (as shown in the OP), whereas some of Lebron's don't (usually PF's).

In Kyrie's case - he played to full capacity, which proved to be a greater contribution than Pippen ever provided (27/4/4 on 47%).

Otoh, Love was reduced from 26/13 superstar to 8 ppg scrub because PF's can't play with Lebron like they can with Jordan, likely because Lebron's point-guard-style and abnormally high time of possession from the SF position usurps the PF's time with the ball.. :confusedshrug:

[AintNoSunshine]

Fact number 1: Jordan never won without Pippen.

Fact number 2: Jordan even struggled to do anything meaningful except for stat padding without Pippen and arguably the GOAT coach.

Fact number 3: Jordan never faced a team like the 73-9 Warriors.

Fact number 4: Jordan never "led everyone in everything"

Fact number 5: You have no life.

[3ball]

Fact number 1: Jordan never won without Pippen.


Lebron never won without 2 all-stars.. Otoh, Jordan won 6 rings with just 1 all-star, which is why he needed to average 5.5 more points on better efficiency in the playoffs, with only 1 less assist.





Fact number 3: Jordan never faced a team like the 73-9 Warriors.


Jordan never beat a 73-win team, but he beat Shaq and Magic, who are better players than Lebron ever faced, let alone defeated.

Against Magic, Jordan guarded him for 14 of 20 quarters (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12376705&postcount=45) and dominated the matchup with 33/7/11 on 56%, to Magic's 19/7/12 on 43%.. The closest Lebron had to this type of two-way challenge is Durant, who outscored him 33 to 29 and outshot him 55% to 50%.

Jordan also significantly outplayed Drexler with 36 ppg on 51%, compared to Drexler's 25 ppg on 43%.. Given the massive gaps between MJ and Magic/Drexler, what would he do to Lebron?.. Magic and Drexler looked pretty good too before Jordan started whizzing by them.





Fact number 4: Jordan never "led everyone in everything"


Jordan averaged a whopping 5.5 more points in the playoffs with better efficiency across the board (ts, fg, ortg) - this is more valuable, requires more energy, and controls the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge and 1.0 assist edge.

There's never been a #1 option that averaged 5.5 more points on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.





Fact number 5: You have no life


says the guy who is responding to my posts with 5 neatly put together "facts"

[LeBird]

Fact number 1: Jordan never won without Pippen.

Fact number 2: Jordan even struggled to do anything meaningful except for stat padding without Pippen and arguably the GOAT coach.

Fact number 3: Jordan never faced a team like the 73-9 Warriors.

Fact number 4: Jordan never "led everyone in everything"

Fact number 5: You have no life.

:applause: