Why did 09' Cavs win 19 more games than 89' Bulls....

[3ball]

when LBJ and MJ's stats were same?

[Dray n Klay]

When Jordan's teams lose to teams of equal or lesser talent, his stats are "empty", since it was his suboptimal style that allows opponents the opportunity to play a better brand of basketball

Jordans style promoted bad chemistry with Pippen.. Their well-publicized on-off stats showed the Bulls were better when they were not on the floor together - suboptimal chemistry and brand of basketball between the two stars left the team open to being upset by equal or less-talented teams playing a better brand of basketball.. Anytime this happened, Jordans stats were "empty", since his suboptimal style created the opportunity for the opponent to play a better style and overcome any talent factor.

[Ben Simmons]

....cause Lebron is better than MJ?

[FKAri]

Because Lebron plays a more efficient brand of basketball. Maximizing his teammates to their full potential. Getting the most out of scrubs like Mo Williams. While MJ ball as we all know results in 1-9. Only with $tacked teams and a man known to tame psychopaths in Phil can Jordan win in the NBA (not srs about any of this)

Here are some color coded and stylized stats to prove it:
OP is a phaggit

Sorry too lazy to do a full 3ball imitation :lol

[RoundMoundOfReb]

LeBron James.

[3ball]

When Jordan's teams lose to teams of equal or lesser talent


This never happened in the playoffs - Jordan never lost as the favorite or to any less talented team.

You're getting Jordan confused with Lebron's losses as the favored 1 seeds in 2009, 2010 and 2011 playoffs.





his stats are "empty", since it was his suboptimal style that allows opponents the opportunity to play a better brand of basketball


We know Jordan's 1989 Bulls played a better brand of basketball than the 2009 Cavs because the the Bulls' brand was more successful in the playoffs..

The 6th-seeded Bulls defeated higher seeds in every round and took the champs to 6 games in ECF, while Lebron's favored 1 seed saw their brand of basketball exposed in the 2nd Round by the Magic.

So brand of basketball had nothing to do with Lebron's 19 more wins, which means the only reasons remaining are better supporting cast and inferior competition - obviously, the 19 wins can't be ONLY be due to inferior competition - it must be due to better supporting cast as well.
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[aj1987]

Because LeBron >>>> Ordan.

[3ball]

Because LeBron >>>> Ordan.


Actually, there's only 3 possible reasons that the Cavs won 19 more games despite inferior stats from Lebron: superior brand of basketball, superior supporting cast and/or worse competition.

We can eliminate brand of basketball as a possible reason - we know Jordan's 1989 Bulls played a better brand of basketball because their brand was more successful in the playoffs.. The 6th-seeded Bulls defeated higher seeds in every round and took the champs to 6 games in ECF, while Lebron's favored 1 seed saw their brand of basketball exposed by the Magic.

So with brand of basketball not an option, the only reasons remaining are better supporting cast and inferior competition.. Obviously, the 19 wins can't be ONLY be due to inferior competition - it must be due to better supporting cast as well.

Basically, Lebron's 2009 Cavs had a much better supporting cast than the 1989 Bulls

[Lebron23]

Why are you so insecure bro?

[Gileraracer]

Cause Lebron always needs more help

[aj1987]

Ordan sucks.

LeBron >>>>>>>>>>> Curry >>>>>>>>> Derozan >>>>>>> Ordan
Agreed! :cheers:

[ShawkFactory]

You've made this exact thread literally like 6 times

[AintNoSunshine]

Because Jordan without Pippen is just another stat padder with very limited impact. He's like a Westbrook in a weak competition era.

Lebron on the other hand transforms his talent into wins despite there is close to no help