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UK2K
06-22-2016, 09:52 AM
Make. This. Happen.


Kentucky coach John Calipari says guard Jamal Murray hopes he's drafted by the Wolves, who hold the No. 5 pick in Thursday's NBA draft.

"I'm saying this to you and no one else. He loves Minnesota," Calipari said on a conference call. "As a matter of fact, that's where he'd like to go."

Rubio - 25
Murray - 19
Wiggins - 21
Towns - 20
Dieng - 25

Lavine - 21
Muhammad - 23
Jones - 20

That's a league leading defense, and with the addition of Murray, and sharpshooting, athletic offense.

:bowdown: Milt Newton

Haymaker
06-22-2016, 10:01 AM
:applause: You forgot Thibs.

r15mohd
06-22-2016, 10:03 AM
Make. This. Happen.



Rubio - 25
Murray - 19
Wiggins - 21
Towns - 20
Dieng - 25

Lavine - 21
Muhammad - 23
Jones - 20

That's a league leading defense, and with the addition of Murray, and sharpshooting, athletic offense.

:bowdown: Milt Newton


they're still a bottom of the west playoff team, at best - desperately need a seasoned all-star to superstar player to be considered threatening. Towns has a great upside and can be the leagues next big man, but they still that one star to come on board and lead.

i am excited to see Thibs make this team a defensive demon - top 5 for sure

Achilleas
06-22-2016, 10:09 AM
next year they will be out of the playoffs, they should trade dieng for a power forward ,kat should play center
wiggins,kat and rubio 3 very good defenders + thibs will be good def
when i watch lavine in the start of the season he was the worst player i have seen,every time he touches the ball he shoot 3s and bricks everything ,at the end of the season he starts making them ,i don't know what you can do with him but he shouldn't play pg
shabaz should be the 6th guy from the bench scoring 13 points

Prime_Shaq
06-22-2016, 10:17 AM
Wiggins development has been too slow for my liking, KAT about to set the league on fire though.

Achilleas
06-22-2016, 10:23 AM
Wiggins development has been too slow for my liking, KAT about to set the league on fire though.
kat is superstar
wiggins can't be a superstar,because he can't create his own shoot,he can't be dribble very well,but he is the perfect for 2 role like klay who can't create he own shoot

be very good defender,and score 21-24 points,klay score from post ups and 3s,wiggins can score from post ups and by driving when others have the ball

Akrazotile
06-22-2016, 10:46 AM
Make. This. Happen.



Rubio - 25
Murray - 19
Wiggins - 21
Towns - 20
Dieng - 25

Lavine - 21
Muhammad - 23
Jones - 20

That's a league leading defense, and with the addition of Murray, and sharpshooting, athletic offense.

:bowdown: Milt Newton


It's a great looking squad in terms of talent, but the thing is really that young teams dont win titles, veteran teams do.

The problem with having that much young talent is that it's really hard to keep it all together under the salary cap. Especially in a market like Minny. By the time these 7 or 8 core players are mature, theyre all gonna be on contracts the team cant afford to collectively pay. It's exactly what happened with the Thunder/Harden, and numerous other teams.

You never see title teams with rosters full of guys they drafted. Theyll have 3-4 at most, and then a bunch of other guys who were the right fit and the right contract at the time.

Theyre in good shape because theyve got plenty of talent to choose from, but eventually theyre gonna have to pick 2 or 3 of these young guys to retain and then eventually surround them with veterans on good contracts. Theyd be best off packaging a lot of these other assets for another big name talent before they lose them all in free agency. Theyve still got time to do that, but if you wait too long til they blow up into stars who will command big bucks, teams are gonna know you cant keep them and just wait for free agency, rather than make a trade.

It's a tough tight rope to walk, tbh. Good problem to have I guess, but by no means easy to navigate precisely.

Akrazotile
06-22-2016, 10:48 AM
they're still a bottom of the west playoff team, at best - desperately need a seasoned all-star to superstar player to be considered threatening. Towns has a great upside and can be the leagues next big man, but they still that one star to come on board and lead.

i am excited to see Thibs make this team a defensive demon - top 5 for sure


Youve been watching too much ESPN, methinks.

Klay 3D
06-22-2016, 11:00 AM
Trade Lavine for Jimmy Butler somehow. Lavine, Pek, 2017+2018 1st?
Sign Lin and Noah/Whiteside.

Rubio/Lin/Murray
Butler/Lin/Murray
Wiggins/Muhummad
Towns/Dieng/Bjelica
Noah(and/or Whiteside)/Dieng

Maybe Lee/Afflalo too.

Kiddlovesnets
06-22-2016, 11:04 AM
They will be just a perfect clone of that Blazers team under Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. Superior talents but wont live up to the potential due to injury plague. Difference is that the Blazers team have an inherently injury prone rosters, while the Wolvers' future injury problems will be the cause of Tom Thibodeau running his players to the ground with his excessive training and training.

kurple
06-22-2016, 12:44 PM
Probably good enough to get the 6th or 7th pick next summer


We need to stop this until they actually prove anything. The how good will Minny be threads happen every summer

kurple
06-22-2016, 12:45 PM
They will be just a perfect clone of that Blazers team under Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. Superior talents but wont live up to the potential due to injury plague. Difference is that the Blazers team have an inherently injury prone rosters, while the Wolvers' future injury problems will be the cause of Tom Thibodeau running his players to the ground with his excessive training and training.
Brandon Roy >>>>>>>>> Wiggins

Meticode
06-22-2016, 12:48 PM
Promising.

ralph_i_el
06-22-2016, 01:09 PM
they're still a bottom of the west playoff team, at best - desperately need a seasoned all-star to superstar player to be considered threatening. Towns has a great upside and can be the leagues next big man, but they still that one star to come on board and lead.

i am excited to see Thibs make this team a defensive demon - top 5 for sure

Do they really though? KAT looks like a Tim Duncan- KG level player in the future.

People say that Wiggins can't create his own shot, but I think he'll make great strides as a ball-handler over the next year or two.

All the Wolves need is for their young guys to develop at a realistic pace, and to find a smart guard who can shoot and lead. Rubio may be the guy to run the point, but there's a huge market out there for combo guards with leadership ability, plus they can find one in the draft this year.

The Wolves won't be contenders next season, but the season after that? Maybe

ralph_i_el
06-22-2016, 01:10 PM
They will be just a perfect clone of that Blazers team under Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. Superior talents but wont live up to the potential due to injury plague. Difference is that the Blazers team have an inherently injury prone rosters, while the Wolvers' future injury problems will be the cause of Tom Thibodeau running his players to the ground with his excessive training and training.

Roy had a sick handle and was a meh athlete

Wiggins has a weak handle and is a freak athlete

Current league best comparison for Roy = James Harden (uncanny resemblance, except for Roy used more midrange and footwork whereas Harden forces his way to the rim with the euro-step)

I think Roy was more fundamentally sound than Harden, but both players were large SG's with advanced handles and scoring instincts, and elite shooting skill.


Current league best comparison for Wiggins' potential = Paul George

Paul George is an overwhelming athlete for his size, which he uses on both ends of the floor. Really good off-ball player with an ok handle. Uses his size to get off jumpers easily, and is an above average shooter. Ability to post-up mismatches. Wiggins has the potential to do all this realistically

Akrazotile
06-22-2016, 01:29 PM
Do they really though? KAT looks like a Tim Duncan- KG level player in the future.



They said this about Griffin after his rookie year. He had TD/Shaq level rookie stats. He was the next elite big.

Let's just wait a minute. Let's just chill. Okay? Can we do that? Can we ****ing just wait one ****ing minute bro??? RELAX.

ralph_i_el
06-22-2016, 01:30 PM
They said this about Griffin after his rookie year. He had TD/Shaq level roomie stats.

Let's just wait a minute. Let's just chill. Okay? Can we do that? Can we ****ing just wait one ****ing minute bro??? RELAX.

If you watch KAT he's clearly better than Griffin though...

His footwork is next level and he's a crazy good shooter for his age.

Griffin is extremely talented, but in the end he's a ball-handling forward with a (now) average jumper and short wingspan. There's a ceiling on that player.

KAT has prototypical center length, and already has high level skills that will last (shooting and footwork). This tells me that he's likely to have a much more consistent impact than BG.

KyrieTheFuture
06-22-2016, 01:30 PM
They said this about Griffin after his rookie year. He had TD/Shaq level rookie stats. He was the next elite big.

Let's just wait a minute. Let's just chill. Okay? Can we do that? Can we ****ing just wait one ****ing minute bro??? RELAX.
Yea but again Blake did that shit on pure athleticism and KAT is pure skills

Relinquish
06-22-2016, 01:31 PM
Trade Lavine for Jimmy Butler somehow. Lavine, Pek, 2017+2018 1st?
Sign Lin and Noah/Whiteside.

Rubio/Lin/Murray
Butler/Lin/Murray
Wiggins/Muhummad
Towns/Dieng/Bjelica
Noah(and/or Whiteside)/Dieng

Maybe Lee/Afflalo too.

Why would they trade Lavine for a far inferior player? :biggums:

KyrieTheFuture
06-22-2016, 01:31 PM
kat is superstar
wiggins can't be a superstar,because he can't create his own shoot,he can't be dribble very well,but he is the perfect for 2 role like klay who can't create he own shoot

be very good defender,and score 21-24 points,klay score from post ups and 3s,wiggins can score from post ups and by driving when others have the ball
jesus

Twiens
06-22-2016, 01:34 PM
KAT/Wiggins/Murray/Dieng = KD/Russ/Harden/Ibaka


2-3 years they'll be contending if they take Murray

UK2K
06-22-2016, 02:06 PM
KAT/Wiggins/Murray/Dieng = KD/Russ/Harden/Ibaka


2-3 years they'll be contending if they take Murray

Agreed.

In 3 years those guys are in the mid 20's, and are considered experienced as their second contract approaches.

No different than what OKC did, or what Boston did.

r15mohd
06-22-2016, 02:55 PM
Youve been watching too much ESPN, methinks.


they'll have pretty good defense but they need a all-star level vet leader on the floor - not someone like KG on the bench. without this piece, they'll be the Hawks of the west. great regular season and upended in the playoffs early

r15mohd
06-22-2016, 02:58 PM
Do they really though? KAT looks like a Tim Duncan- KG level player in the future.

People say that Wiggins can't create his own shot, but I think he'll make great strides as a ball-handler over the next year or two.

All the Wolves need is for their young guys to develop at a realistic pace, and to find a smart guard who can shoot and lead. Rubio may be the guy to run the point, but there's a huge market out there for combo guards with leadership ability, plus they can find one in the draft this year.

The Wolves won't be contenders next season, but the season after that? Maybe


i have no doubts in them developing but theres going to be some leadership needed on that team from a active player standpoint - and I don't see any just yet with the Wolves. maybe someone will evolve into one, but just thinking that with the good defense schemes with Thibs coming in that an all-star vet for a pick and one of the youths, or even signed during FA, will be very beneficial in making them a legit contender in the future.