Going To Be Scary When Cleveland Has A Bench this Offseason

[SilkkTheShocker]

They won the title with only really RJ and Frye (pre-Finals) giving them anything off the bench. Wait until they replace some of their bench with ring chasing vets. I honestly would be absolutely shocked to see CLE not repeat. As we know, GS can't win the title without Cleveland missing their #2 and #3 best players. And the Spurs will win 60+ games and lose in the 2nd round. Rested LeBron over the summer. Irving reaching clutch-God form during the Finals. And anything they get from Love is f.ucking gravy. I don't think they will push for 70 wins, but will coast to 55+ and proceed to slap around the East again. And than beat whichever soft ass, no defense playing team that come from the West

[Im Still Ballin]

Here...

We...

Go.

[SamuraiSWISH]

proceed to slap around the East again. And than beat whichever soft ass, no defense playing team that come from the West
:applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't forget the Western Conference and their choking retards (OKC)

[francesco totti]

Cavs dont need much of bench. they can go through east like is... and rely on the scheduling of the finals being 3 days each.

[SilkkTheShocker]

:applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't forget the Western Conference and their choking retards (OKC)

Agreed. People talk about how great the West and great it is. But it's a bunch of f.aggy finesse teams. Spurs will get hyped before the season and will lose in the first or second round. OKC is a guarantee to choke because their basketball IQ is always going to hold them back. And the Warriors would have no titles at all with their current core if Irving/Love played last season. Hell, just even Irving they would had won still. Aside from Cavs winning it this year, second best part was the fact the title came back to the East. :applause:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Cavs dont need much of bench. they can go through east like is... and rely on the scheduling of the finals being 3 days each.

A lot of it will be on Shumpert getting back to last year's form. He was terrible this year, but had some good defensive games in the Finals. They should add another shooter though to replace some of the dead weight on the bench. Getting Barbosa would be a perfect pickup. Cavs don't need to go crazy. Not like GS f.aggots wanting a top 5 player for a 73 win team :oldlol:

[Lebronxrings]

The prophet has spoken. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[moongaze]

Jordan McCrae needs to get more playing time. In the short time he's played he's looked a lot better than shumpert on the offensive side of the ball. I've never really been a big Delly fan. I understand he was hurt and that's why he didn't play much down the stretch, but the cavs just won the ship with him playing limited minutes. I'd look to see if I can get a better backup point guard. I you can't, I'd keep him with the knowledge that he'll be healthier next year . Delly is a good shooter at times and can run the offense well but he has limited ISO skills when things break down. I tll He hasn't shot the ball well in months. Mozgov can be replaced also.

I like this bench:

C/PF-Frye
SG/SF-McCrae
Whatever position -Shumperts replacement
C-Mozgovs replacement
PG-dellys replacement or Delly
SF- Richard Jefferson

Oh, and, golden state can't beat a healthy cavs

[tpols]

Richard Jefferson had the best defensive rating on the team in the Finals after bron.. he was pretty damn good. I dont see much what much more depth is going to do .. except maybe shump finding his shot again, that might help. otherwise staying pat, gaining experience.

[Terahite]

:applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't forget the Western Conference and their choking retards (OKC)

Don't forget LAC who also choked a 3-1 lead last year against HOU

though I would love to see this Cavs team destroy a healthy Clippers team in the Finals :applause:

[SamuraiSWISH]

The Western "superior" Conference ... where 67 win teams get booted in first round (Dirk 2007) And The second round (16 Spurs)

Also let us not forget the West where they choke away 3 games to 1 leads

OKC and GSW Best Team Ever Omgz 73-9 !!!

:oldlol:

[Cap'n Obvious]

I'm pretty sure Cavs had a bench every season.

[imdaman99]

I don't know how anyone can assume the cavs would have won last year if they were full strength, when they needed Bogut going down and Draymond suspended for 1 game to barely beat the Warriors this year.

Cavs need more players, it's not as if they aren't the most expensive team already :lol

[nineiron]

They won the title with only really RJ and Frye (pre-Finals) giving them anything off the bench. Wait until they replace some of their bench with ring chasing vets. I honestly would be absolutely shocked to see CLE not repeat. As we know, GS can't win the title without Cleveland missing their #2 and #3 best players. And the Spurs will win 60+ games and lose in the 2nd round. Rested LeBron over the summer. Irving reaching clutch-God form during the Finals. And anything they get from Love is f.ucking gravy. I don't think they will push for 70 wins, but will coast to 55+ and proceed to slap around the East again. And than beat whichever soft ass, no defense playing team that come from the West

if they had no bench this season, why did they have the highest payroll in the league?

doesn't matter, they're going to lose next year. they should have lost this year but they got HELLA lucky and everyone knows it.

[scuzzy]

if they had no bench this season, why did they have the highest payroll in the league?

doesn't matter, they're going to lose next year. they should have lost this year but they got HELLA lucky and everyone knows it.

Because they have 3 max players :hammerhead:

[Meticode]

if they had no bench this season, why did they have the highest payroll in the league?

doesn't matter, they're going to lose next year. they should have lost this year but they got HELLA lucky and everyone knows it.
Oh, you mean like the Warriors did last year when they played every team with an injured point guard in the playoffs?

Please, drop this logic.

[scuzzy]

I don't know how anyone can assume the cavs would have won last year if they were full strength, when they needed Bogut going down and Draymond suspended for 1 game to barely beat the Warriors this year.

Cavs need more players, it's not as if they aren't the most expensive team already :lol

And Love didn't miss a game?

And what if Irving + Love didn't shoot 2-35 the first two games

And what if Cavs bench didn't get outscored 39-5

We could go back n forth all day with what ifs

Fact is

Bogut was a net negative the entire series and along with Barnes will be gone next season

Not to mention their top perimeter defender has a rusty back and ages another year

Unless GSW picks up a banger, their window is closing, fast

OKC is Clevelands only threat

And as OP stated, their IQ will be the downfall

Not to mention the absence of Durant when he's guarded by Lebron

[nineiron]

Because they have 4 max players :hammerhead:

you need to learn how to count, here are the top paid players on the Cavs:

LeBron James $22,971,000
Kevin Love $19,500,000
Kyrie Irving $14,746,000
Tristan Thompson 25 $14,260,870

just because the coaching staff doesn't know how to utilize their bench does not mean they don't have a bench.

the GSW bench 'looks' better because the coaching is better and because they have better players that know how to move the ball and space the floor.

Lebron doesn't make players around hi better, he usually makes them worse. he's lucky to play with Kyrie since Kyrie doesn't rely on others to get himself looks.

[nineiron]

Oh, you mean like the Warriors did last year when they played every team with an injured point guard in the playoffs?

Please, drop this logic.

i don't remember the Cavs ever going up 3-1.

[tpols]

And Love didn't miss a game?


yea and cavs won by like 30 :biggums:


bran stans are DUMB. Love going down was a turning point in the series as it allowed Richard Jefferson to be a sparkplug defensively and part of the reason the whole series flipped around as Cleveland was locking golden state down with Love out and RJ in. His athleticism around the cup as compared to Love's was also extremely invaluable.

The warriors dealt with more injuries and missed time this year than the Cavs did.. the Cavs dealt with more of that last year. Both have been banged up and took advantage of each other. You guys are pathetic that you cant admit that.



add this jordan groupie Samurai to that list.. spouting off about West not being better since 2007.. what a joke you are bro.:lol

[scuzzy]

you need to learn how to count, here are the top paid players on the Cavs:

LeBron James $22,971,000
Kevin Love $19,500,000
Kyrie Irving $14,746,000
Tristan Thompson 25 $14,260,870

just because the coaching staff doesn't know how to utilize their bench does not mean they don't have a bench.

the GSW bench 'looks' better because the coaching is better and because they have better players that know how to move the ball and space the floor.

Lebron doesn't make players around hi better, he usually makes them worse. he's lucky to play with Kyrie since Kyrie doesn't rely on others to get himself looks.


Nope

Kerr is overrated and got exposed in the WCF and Finals

Trusted his team too much

Let them hoist contested 30 footers, instead of creating efficient shots

Walton 37-3 record or whatever proved this

Kerr + staff are a product of his talented roster

[moongaze]

I don't know how anyone can assume the cavs would have won last year if they were full strength, when they needed Bogut going down and Draymond suspended for 1 game to barely beat the Warriors this year.

Cavs need more players, it's not as if they aren't the most expensive team already :lol

Bogut is insignificant. He plays 12 minutes a game and the warriors came back down 2-1 against the cavs in the 2015 finals AFTER benching him.
The draymond green suspension was insignificant in many ways. It was only one game of a seven game series and the cavs beat golden state by only one less point the next game he played. Lebron also scored as many points as he did in game 5. While you bring up draymond green and bogut, you fail to realize that Kevin love also missed a game and was dealing with a concussion for most of the series. Matthew dellavedova was also banged up.Those excuses you brought up are insignificant at best.

Cleveland dominated the series the last 5 games. Games one and two are throwaway games where they had been on a losing streak to golden state and lacked confidence against them. They didn't know if they could beat them. Once they regained their confidence in game 3 first quarter and played like the team throughout the playoffs we knew, Cleveland dominated. The cavs lead for all but 14 minutes in games 3,5 and 6. Even in the game 4 loss they led till late in the third quarter.


Last year golden state was nowhere near as good as the 73 win team. They lost two games to a team missing the guy that hit the game winner in the following years series and the opponent's third best player for multiple games. Its logical to assume that had those guys played that the cavs would have won in. I think the cavs would have win in 5 games

[nineiron]

yea and cavs won by like 30 :biggums:

bran stans are DUMB. Love going down was a turning point in the series as it allowed Richard Jefferson to be a sparkplug defensively and part of the reason the whole series flipped around as Cleveland was locking golden state down with Love out and RJ in. His athleticism around the cup as compared to Love's was also extremely invaluable.

The warriors dealt with more injuries and missed time this year than the Cavs did.. the Cavs dealt with more of that last year. Both have been banged up and took advantage of each other. You guys are pathetic that you cant admit that.

add this jordan groupie Samurai to that list.. spouting off about West not being better since 2007.. what a joke you are bro.:lol


of course they are, they like to imitate their hero!

"over-dog" LMFAO

[scuzzy]

yea and cavs won by like 30 :biggums:


bran stans are DUMB. Love going down was a turning point in the series as it allowed Richard Jefferson to be a sparkplug defensively and part of the reason the whole series flipped around as Cleveland was locking golden state down with Love out and RJ in. His athleticism around the cup as compared to Love's was also extremely invaluable.

The warriors dealt with more injuries and missed time this year than the Cavs did.. the Cavs dealt with more of that last year. Both have been banged up and took advantage of each other. You guys are pathetic that you cant admit that.


add this jordan groupie Samurai to that list.. spouting off about West not being better since 2007.. what a joke you are bro.:lol



Doesn't matter if the Cavs won or lost

Love was injured just as Bogut was, that's the point

Cavs adjusted and GSW didn't

"Next man up" was nowhere to be found on GSW

Fact is, Cavs beat the Warriors, Warriors didn't beat themselves, period

[tpols]

Doesn't matter if the Cavs won or lost

Love was injured just as Bogut was

Cavs adjusted and GSW didn't

"Next man up" was nowhere to be found on GSW

Fact is, Cavs beat the Warriors, Warriors didn't beat themselves, period


Exactly because the next man up was Festus Ezeli and Varejo who were both god awful, and being exploited every minute they were on the court. Where as the next man up for Cleveland, RJ stepped up in a huge way. Thank you for conceding that Cavs supporting cast stepped up and warriors didnt? lol.. that doesnt help your argument.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Butthurt GS fans begging for KD. I talk about adding guys like f.ucking Barbosa and the waterworks start. LeBron got you shook. :bowdown:

[tpols]

Butthurt GS fans begging for KD. I talk about adding guys like f.ucking Barbosa and the waterworks start. LeBron got you shook. :bowdown:

lmao.. saying KD is a good fit is begging for him? you too funny bro. They need to make sure Bogut comes back most of all, get a few more big bodies to set screens, and clog the paint.

[Koresh]

if they had no bench this season, why did they have the highest payroll in the league?

doesn't matter, they're going to lose next year. they should have lost this year but they got HELLA lucky and everyone knows it.


How do you get lucky coming back from a 3-1 deficit?:roll:

All the Warriors had to do was win ONE GAME. They couldn't even win on their home floor TWICE.

Your salty tears are delicious.

[SilkkTheShocker]

lmao.. saying KD is a good fit is begging for him? you too funny bro. They need to make sure Bogut comes back most of all, get a few more big bodies to set screens, and clog the paint.

You were talking about GS adding Durant like he was some role player. You know you would be crying a storm if the talk was KD going to CLE. You can spin it all you want, but we both know that's true. :oldlol:

[tpols]

You were talking about GS adding Durant like he was some role player. You know you would be crying a storm if the talk was KD going to CLE. You can spin it all you want, but we both know that's true. :oldlol:

Bran might still have that up his sleeve.. shit, you're right. :eek:

KD would still be the b!tch in that case tho for leavin and jumping ship.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lol at ppl saying KD is a "good fit" for gsw like he's Ryan Anderson filling some stretch 4 role or some shit. This is a top 5 player :oldlol:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Btw, sensational thread. We. Will. Win. Again.

[tpols]

Lol at ppl saying KD is a "good fit" for gsw like he's Ryan Anderson filling some stretch 4 role or some shit. This is a top 5 player :oldlol:

so.. saying somebody is a good fit, automatically means they have to be a ryan anderson level player?

:wtf:

you guys take the cake .. dummies

[Koresh]

so.. saying somebody is a good fit, automatically means they have to be a ryan anderson level player?

:wtf:

you guys take the cake .. dummies

You've been spewing shit for the last few days about KD on the Warriors like he's Ryan Anderson. The dude was an MVP 2 years ago. A top 5 player in the league. Durant doesn't need to go to GSW. GSW doesn't need KD. It would be the biggest bitch move in NBA history that is 200 times worse than the Big 3 Heat, which you were crucifying like everyone else here did. It's double standards. Like you said (paraphrasing: No one thinks KD is a top player, so if he goes to GSW no one would care. Yeah right....If LeBron did this your tune would be different much different. Call a spade a spade. No one respects KD as a top player or an all-time great, so he can just go to GSW but if LeBron went to GSW you will never hear the end of it.

KD to GSW is the true definition of "Can't beat them? Join 'em!"

[Mr Feeny]

You've been spewing shit for the last few days about KD on the Warriors like he's Ryan Anderson. The dude was an MVP 2 years ago. A top 5 player in the league. Durant doesn't need to go to GSW. GSW doesn't need KD. It would be the biggest bitch move in NBA history that is 200 times worse than the Big 3 Heat, which you were crucifying like everyone else here did. It's double standards. Like you said (paraphrasing: No one thinks KD is a top player, so if he goes to GSW no one would care. Yeah right....If LeBron did this your tune would be different much different. Call a spade a spade. No one respects KD as a top player or an all-time great, so he can just go to GSW but if LeBron went to GSW you will never hear the end of it.

KD to GSW is the true definition of "Can't beat them? Join 'em!"I don't get why you care what a Kobe stan has to say.

He just watched James absolutely WRECK his idol's legacy and will do anything g he can to diminish James' accomplishments and apply double standards.

Why would you NOT expect that from a - as per your own admission- salty kid.

[tpols]

You've been spewing shit for the last few days about KD on the Warriors like he's Ryan Anderson. The dude was an MVP 2 years ago. A top 5 player in the league. Durant doesn't need to go to GSW. GSW doesn't need KD. It would be the biggest bitch move in NBA history that is 200 times worse than the Big 3 Heat, which you were crucifying like everyone else here did. It's double standards. Like you said (paraphrasing: No one thinks KD is a top player, so if he goes to GSW no one would care. Yeah right....If LeBron did this your tune would be different much different. Call a spade a spade. No one respects KD as a top player or an all-time great, so he can just go to GSW but if LeBron went to GSW you will never hear the end of it.

KD to GSW is the true definition of "Can't beat them? Join 'em!"

you're off on most this.. I have said over and over you can hate on KD for jumping ship. Same way it would be if he went to the Cavs. Of course there's the whole fact that the east is already uncompetitive so that would destroy the conference more than it would out west, where there are at least still some contenders lurking, but nvm that.


and I literally gave a one sentence reply in a KD to GSW rumor thread, stating kevin durant's midrange would compliment dub's 3 pt shooting.. one sentence.. and somehow I'm saying KD is a role player? You guys are making huge inferences.. big time reaching. If I say Kyrie is a great fit next to Bron because of his shooting and floor spacing, does that mean I'm calling him JR smith? lol .. Memorizing my posts word for word, yet still cant comprehend it. amazing.

[IllegalD]

The Western "superior" Conference ... where 67 win teams get booted in first round (Dirk 2007) And The second round (16 Spurs)

Also let us not forget the West where they choke away 3 games to 1 leads

OKC and GSW Best Team Ever Omgz 73-9 !!!

:oldlol:


:wtf: you actually just made the point for them.

A 67 win team can get beat in the 1st or second rounds because that's how stacked the Western Conference is.

The fact that LeBron beat the Warriors just highlights the fact that LeBron's teams the last 6 seasons have been on par with the best Western Conference teams. Except no one else in the Least is... What's hard to understand about that...? :confusedshrug: