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RoundMoundOfReb
06-26-2016, 07:07 AM
Since he entered the league:

04: Garnett
05: Duncan
06: LeBron/Kobe
07: LeBron/Kobe
08: LeBron/Kobe
09: LeBron
10: LeBron
11: LeBron
12: LeBron
13: LeBron
14: LeBron
15: LeBron
16: LeBron

That's 8 straight years where he's been the clear best and then 3 pre-prime years more when he was only slightly better than prime Kobe...those are somewhat debatable.

Simply LeGendary.

Dray n Klay
06-26-2016, 07:12 AM
Never, best player in the league for an entire damn decade





Think about it, LeBrons been the best player in the league for more seasons than Shaq/Duncan/Kobe/Tmac combined

bobopenguin
06-26-2016, 07:21 AM
Never, best player in the league for an entire damn decade





Think about it, LeBrons been the best player in the league for more seasons than Shaq/Duncan/Kobe/Tmac combined

someone pls send this guy to hospital. he's smoking too much weed, high as fk. :facepalm

Dray n Klay
06-26-2016, 07:23 AM
someone pls send this guy to hospital. he's smoking too much weed, high as fk. :facepalm

Weed doesnt hospitalize people


:dancin

RoundMoundOfReb
06-26-2016, 07:33 AM
someone pls send this guy to hospital. he's smoking too much weed, high as fk. :facepalm
It's debatable.

Most people will give Shaq: 99 00 01 02, Duncan 03, KG 04, Duncan 05, 06-08 is debatable between LeBron and Kobe and then 09-present is a sweep for LeKing.

So That's 7-10 for Shaq/Kobe/KG/Duncan vs 8-11 for the King.

Im Still Ballin
06-26-2016, 08:17 AM
Pretty extraordinary

He's been doing this shit for over a decade now

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2016, 08:25 AM
Definitely not in '06 or '07...

Still, only Kareem, and there wasn't a single other top 20 player ever during the 70's.

RoundMoundOfReb
06-26-2016, 08:43 AM
Definitely not in '06 or '07...

Still, only Kareem, and there wasn't a single other top 20 player ever during the 70's.

Who was the best in '06? You can't really say it was Kobe while saying "definitely not" for LeBron. LeBron had better numbers and carried an equally bad team to a similar result. I suppose Wade would make sense if you're valuing playoffs highly.



But the point still stands. Minimum 8, Maximum 11.

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2016, 08:55 AM
Who was the best in '06? You can't really say it was Kobe while saying "definitely not" for LeBron. LeBron had better numbers and carried an equally bad team to a similar result. I suppose Wade would make sense if you're valuing playoffs highly.



But the point still stands. Minimum 8, Maximum 11.

Wade would probably go ahead of Bron, but I'd easily take Dirk.. perhaps Kobe too.

And in '07 I'd take all those but maybe also Nash and Duncan.

RoundMoundOfReb
06-26-2016, 08:58 AM
Wade would probably go ahead of Bron, but I'd easily take Dirk.. perhaps Kobe too.

And in '07 I'd take all those but maybe also Nash and Duncan.

In 07:

Wade - injured
Kobe - maybe
Dirk - warriors but still maybe/probably yes
Nash - No

feyki
06-26-2016, 09:19 AM
Definitely not in '06 or '07...

Still, only Kareem, and there wasn't a single other top 20 player ever during the 70's.

:biggums:

Erving,Hondo,West,Moses and Wilt says hi :coleman:

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2016, 10:38 AM
:biggums:

Erving,Hondo,West,Moses and Wilt says hi :coleman:

Wilt played 3 years in the 70's, West 4.. at the back end of their careers :oldlol:

Moses is right, Havlicek and Erving aren't top 20.

feyki
06-26-2016, 11:09 AM
Wilt played 3 years in the 70's, West 4.. at the back end of their careers :oldlol:

Moses is right, Havlicek and Erving aren't top 20.

:crazysam: :durantunimpressed:

SwayDizzle
06-26-2016, 11:19 AM
the straight forward answer would be kobe. since overtaking shaq in 01, he held the reigns up until 11 when dirk assumed the title as best. after dirk it was lebron's time to shine

Orlando Magic
06-26-2016, 11:26 AM
the straight forward answer would be kobe. since overtaking shaq in 01, he held the reigns up until 11 when dirk assumed the title as best. after dirk it was lebron's time to shine

So basically either you're completely trolling OR human beings would benefit from your rapid departure from sucking up resources.

SwayDizzle
06-26-2016, 11:28 AM
So basically either you're completely trolling OR human beings would benefit from your rapid departure from sucking up resources.
u seem kinda mad tho

Spurs5Rings2014
06-26-2016, 11:56 AM
Havlicek and Erving aren't top 20.

Dr. J isn't top 20?

Someone dig up that dumbest posts thread.

:oldlol:

SexSymbol
06-26-2016, 12:04 PM
he was the best in 12 13 and 15.
A lot of players have been the best in 3 seasons

SexSymbol
06-26-2016, 12:05 PM
Wilt played 3 years in the 70's, West 4.. at the back end of their careers :oldlol:

Moses is right, Havlicek and Erving aren't top 20.
:facepalm

Keno
06-26-2016, 12:12 PM
unbelievable longetvity and durability. always the best player end of the season. Lebron is the true goat.

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2016, 12:23 PM
Dr. J isn't top 20?

Someone dig up that dumbest posts thread.

:oldlol:

These are the guys Id have ahead of him:

West/Oscar/Kobe/Dirk/Moses/Chuck/Malone/D-Rob/KG/Pettit

seems reasonable

3ball
06-26-2016, 12:29 PM
.
Even though Curry had a goat regular season, he isn't the best because of his postseason failures, right?... So the same standard must apply to Lebron - you can't excuse Lebron's playoff failures - so here's a real list:


2004: missed playoffs
2005: missed playoffs
2006: numerous guys were better
2007: woat Finals performance - Duncan, Kobe would've done better
2008: Kobe won MVP, made Finals, saved Olympics, and was better
2009: Kobe creamed the Magic in Finals, while Lebron ballhogged and lost to them as #1 seed
2010: lost as #1 seed and choked vs. Celtics
2011: goat choke
2012: best in the world
2013: best in the world
2014: best in the world (or durant?)
2015: best in the world
2016: best in the world


By my count, I have 4-5 years where he's the best, which is less than Jordan's 9 years (1988-1993, 1996-1998)
.

Gileraracer
06-26-2016, 12:34 PM
Your opinion isn't worth that much cause you stan lebron. If someone un biased would say this we could argue about it.

aj1987
06-26-2016, 12:37 PM
Wade would probably go ahead of Bron, but I'd easily take Dirk.. perhaps Kobe too.

And in '07 I'd take all those but maybe also Nash and Duncan.
How the **** was Dirk better than Wade in '06? Wade was better in the RS and significantly better in the PO'S, AutisticWater.

3ball
06-26-2016, 12:41 PM
Your opinion isn't worth that much cause you stan lebron. If someone un biased would say this we could argue about it.


You guys are all biased because you claim that Curry's goat regular season isn't the best this year since he failed in the playoffs, but you say Lebron is the best in years where his playoffs were embarrassments..

My list above is accurate - I gave him credit for being the best for 5 straight years (even 2014, when Durant probably has a better case).. And if you think about it - it's very logical to say he's the best once he starts winning rings, which is the way my list worked out.

SexSymbol
06-26-2016, 12:42 PM
So he has no argument for 03-08
09-10 are clearly Kobe, superior playoff performances and rings, similar in the regular season. In 09 LeBron himself admitted that Kobe was the best player in the league.
11 it's probably Dirk, most people had Wade over LeBron too.
12 it's definitely LeBron
13 LeBron again
14 Durant overall the best
15 Curry clearly
16 LeBron again

So three years if we're being completely unbiased

aj1987
06-26-2016, 12:45 PM
So he has no argument for 03-08
09-10 are clearly Kobe, superior playoff performances and rings, similar in the regular season. In 09 LeBron himself admitted that Kobe was the best player in the league.
11 it's probably Dirk, most people had Wade over LeBron too.
12 it's definitely LeBron
13 LeBron again
14 Durant overall the best
15 Curry clearly
16 LeBron again

So three years if we're being completely unbiased
I think you're extremely retarded, TBH.

'08-'16. That's a solid 9 seasons being the best in the world. I would expect a Chokebe Stan to know that though.

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2016, 12:46 PM
How the **** was Dirk better than Wade in '06? Wade was better in the RS and significantly better in the PO'S, AutisticWater.

wow... you Wade stans are getting way out of line nowadays man...

feyki
06-26-2016, 01:05 PM
.
Even though Curry had a goat regular season, he isn't the best because of his postseason failures, right?... So the same standard must apply to Lebron - you can't excuse Lebron's playoff failures - so here's a real list:


2004: missed playoffs
2005: missed playoffs
2006: numerous guys were better
2007: woat Finals performance - Duncan, Kobe would've done better
2008: Kobe won MVP, made Finals, saved Olympics, and was better
2009: Kobe creamed the Magic in Finals, while Lebron ballhogged and lost to them as #1 seed
2010: lost as #1 seed and choked vs. Celtics
2011: goat choke
2012: best in the world
2013: best in the world
2014: best in the world (or durant?)
2015: best in the world
2016: best in the world


By my count, I have 4-5 years where he's the best, which is less than Jordan's 9 years (1988-1993, 1996-1998)
.

I adding 2009 plus with his offensive force , impact wise . But Kobe was great too for sure .

2009,2012,2013,2014,2015 and 2016 , he will probably done with around between 6/8 .

2006,2007 and 2008 were top 5 for him , arguably top 3 . But just not the best . I would give him 11 and 10 too , if he didn't choke b2b years .

SexSymbol
06-26-2016, 01:08 PM
I think you're extremely retarded, TBH.

'08-'16. That's a solid 9 seasons being the best in the world. I would expect a Chokebe Stan to know that though.
Even the biggest LeBron stan didn't have him as the best in 08, that's just idiotic.
Is curry the best this year? Because by your logic, Lebron being better than kobe in 09 and 10 for his regular season accolades instead of the part of the season that actually matters, Curry should be the best this year and by a landslide, right? righttt?

Odinn
06-26-2016, 02:03 PM
2003-04; No.
2004-05; No.
2005-06; No.
2006-07; No. (3rd after Duncan and Bryant)
2007-08; No. (2nd after Bryant)
2008-09; Yes. (but it's not clear-cut, Bryant or Wade can be named the best as well)
2009-10; Yes. (but if you value po over rs, Bryant can be your choice)
2010-11; No. (***)
2011-12; Yes.
2012-13; Yes.
2013-14; Yes.
2014-15; Yes.
2015-16; Yes.

LeBron has been one of top 3 players in the league since 2006-07 season. 10 straight season as one of top 3.
7 times #1. If 2010-11 weren't like that, it could've been 8 straight seasons.

BTW;
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102569
According to this thread; LeBron still needs one or couple more seasons to match MJ, which I agree.

SexSymbol
06-26-2016, 02:42 PM
2003-04; No.
2004-05; No.
2005-06; No.
2006-07; No. (3rd after Duncan and Bryant)
2007-08; No. (2nd after Bryant)
2008-09; Yes. (but it's not clear-cut, Bryant or Wade can be named the best as well)
2009-10; Yes. (but if you value po over rs, Bryant can be your choice)
2010-11; No. (***)
2011-12; Yes.
2012-13; Yes.
2013-14; Yes.
2014-15; Yes.
2015-16; Yes.

LeBron has been one of top 3 players in the league since 2006-07 season. 10 straight season as one of top 3.
7 times #1. If 2010-11 weren't like that, it could've been 8 straight seasons.

BTW;
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102569
According to this thread; LeBron still needs one or couple more seasons to match MJ, which I agree.
just laughable

RoundMoundOfReb
06-26-2016, 02:52 PM
just laughable
Just reality.

NBAGOAT
06-26-2016, 03:05 PM
Even the biggest LeBron stan didn't have him as the best in 08, that's just idiotic.
Is curry the best this year? Because by your logic, Lebron being better than kobe in 09 and 10 for his regular season accolades instead of the part of the season that actually matters, Curry should be the best this year and by a landslide, right? righttt?

the difference is Lebron was great in the playoffs in 09, like the best playoff run of all time for someone who didn't win a championship. Anyway to answer the question MJ has 88-93 and 96-98 so 9 years. Kareem has like 10 from 70-81.

SamuraiSWISH
06-26-2016, 03:14 PM
If MJ didn't retire twice, I'd say he would've been the best from '87 - '99. 13 years. LeBron has been the best since like 2009, so like a solid 8 years. With players competing for the throne here and there during brief stretches just like any other king of an era.

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 03:52 PM
how can lebronies say lebron was the best in 2009 and 2010 when his team didn't even make the finals while kobe won the chip those years because of bron's regular season but then come back and say lebron was the best this year despite Curry being the unanimous MVP? how can say they bron was the best in 2015 when Curry was the MVP and won the chip over Bron and played better in the playoffs as well?

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 03:54 PM
If MJ didn't retire twice, I'd say he would've been the best from '87 - '99. 13 years. LeBron has been the best since like 2009, so like a solid 8 years. With players competing for the throne here and there during brief stretches just like any other king of an era.

how can you say lebron is the best in 2010 when he lost round 2 and kobe won the chip and then turn around and say lebron was better than Curry in 2015 and 2016?

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 03:54 PM
I adding 2009 plus with his offensive force , impact wise . But Kobe was great too for sure .

2009,2012,2013,2014,2015 and 2016 , he will probably done with around between 6/8 .

2006,2007 and 2008 were top 5 for him , arguably top 3 . But just not the best . I would give him 11 and 10 too , if he didn't choke b2b years .
Who was the best in 07?

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 03:55 PM
Who was the best in 07?

not the guy who averaged 22 ppg on 42% TS and had 6 turnovers per game in the finals. only reason LeBron even made the finals was because the east was garbage. if he was in the west he would've got swept by the spurs round 1 instead of in the finals. you realize the cavs beat one team with a winning record in the playoffs that year right?

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 03:55 PM
how can you say lebron is the best in 2010 when he lost round 2 and kobe won the chip and then turn around and say lebron was better than Curry in 2015 and 2016?
How can you say Kobe was the best in 06 and 07 when he lost in the 1st round including choking a 3-1 lead?

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 03:58 PM
not the guy who averaged 22 ppg on 42% TS and had 6 turnovers per game in the finals. only reason LeBron even made the finals was because the east was garbage. if he was in the west he would've got swept by the spurs round 1 instead of in the finals. you realize the cavs beat one team with a winning record in the playoffs that year right?
I didn't say a single thing about Lebron.
Again, who was the best in 07?

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 03:59 PM
How can you say Kobe was the best in 06 and 07 when he lost in the 1st round including choking a 3-1 lead?

because there was nobody better than Kobe those years. there was nobody who dominated both the regular season and the led their team to a chip.

feyki
06-26-2016, 03:59 PM
Who was the best in 07?

Duncan at the top . And then Nash,Lebron,Kobe debatable .

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 04:00 PM
I didn't say a single thing about Lebron.
Again, who was the best in 07?

kobe averaged over 30 in both the regular season and playoffs on good efficiency. kobe has the edge since the league mvp dirk embrassed himself and lost round 1

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 04:00 PM
Duncan at the top . And then Nash,Lebron,Kobe debatable .
So you agree Dirk isn't anywhere near top 3?

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 04:01 PM
Duncan at the top . And then Nash,Lebron,Kobe debatable .

duncan didn't even win league mvp or finals mvp. heck dude barely averaged 20 ppg. he didn't even average 20 ppg in the finals. he also was very inefficient in the finals.

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 04:03 PM
because there was nobody better than Kobe those years. there was nobody who dominated both the regular season and the led their team to a chip.
That's the most hypocritical statement ever:oldlol:

You say Lebron wasn't the best in 2010 because he lost in the 2nd round but the say Kobe was the best even though he lost in the 1st round.

Try to be somewhat objective because right now you just look dumb.

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 04:04 PM
if you want to say LeBron is better than Curry this year because he had won the chip despite Curry having a 100x better regular season then you can't say LeBron was the best 2009 and 2010 when Kobe was winning rings and LeBron wasn't even making the finals. Again, same concept in 2008 Kobe made the finals and was the league MVP while LeBron lost round 2 so how was LeBron better?

BeastMode24
06-26-2016, 04:06 PM
That's the most hypocritical statement ever:oldlol:

You say Lebron wasn't the best in 2010 because he lost in the 2nd round but the say Kobe was the best even though he lost in the 1st round.

Try to be somewhat objective because right now you just look dumb.

lebron wasn't the best in 2010 because somebody who had a comparable regular season had a much better playoff run and won a chip. If somebody who had a comparable regular season to Kobe in 06 and 07 had a much better playoff run and won the chip then they would be considered the best player in the league. But no such guy existed. duncan 2007 barely averaged 20 ppg and in the finals averaged 18 ppg on 48% TS. he didn't have a dominant season. he was an afterthought when it came to league mvp and he didn't win the finals mvp or lead his team in scoring in the finals

tmacattack33
06-26-2016, 04:11 PM
Lebron's had this locked since 2009.

2014 is debatable with Durant. Durant reg season = 10, playoffs = 8.5 vs Lebron's 9.5 and 9

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 04:14 PM
lebron wasn't the best in 2010 because somebody who had a comparable regular season had a much better playoff run and won a chip. If somebody who had a comparable regular season to Kobe in 06 and 07 had a much better playoff run and won the chip then they would be considered the best player in the league. But no such guy existed. duncan 2007 barely averaged 20 ppg and in the finals averaged 18 ppg on 48% TS. he didn't have a dominant season. he was an afterthought when it came to league mvp and he didn't win the finals mvp or lead his team in scoring in the finals
If that's your standard then 06 Wade > 06 Kobe.
Please don't try to use Kobe shooting 8 more FGA To have 8 more points as better.

And Lebron was pretty clearly better in both the 2010 RS and PO.

SouBeachTalents
06-26-2016, 04:15 PM
'04 & '05 aren't even worth discussing since he missed the playoffs, '06-'08 imo he never truly established himself as the leagues best player, you could make arguments for the following players

'06: Kobe/Wade/Dirk
'07: Kobe/Duncan/Dirk
'08: Kobe/CP3

'09 on I'd say he was the best player in the world, but other players would have reasonable arguments the following seasons

'09: Kobe
'10: Kobe
'11: Dirk/Wade/Dwight
'14: Durant
'15: Curry

Curry was clearly the best player in the league during the regular season this year, but after the Finals LeBron once again cemented himself as best player in the world

feyki
06-26-2016, 04:17 PM
So you agree Dirk isn't anywhere near top 3?

Of course , he wasn't ; like 2004 Kobe or 11 Lebron .


duncan didn't even win league mvp or finals mvp. heck dude barely averaged 20 ppg. he didn't even average 20 ppg in the finals. he also was very inefficient in the finals.

:facepalm

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 04:20 PM
Of course , he wasn't ; like 2004 Kobe or 11 Lebron .



:facepalm
You can't be this stupid.:facepalm
One series does not define an entire season.

Dirk was top 3 in 07 and Lebron was top 3 in 2011.
That's like saying Curry wasn't the top 3 in 2016 because he choked in the Finals.

tmacattack33
06-26-2016, 04:20 PM
if you want to say LeBron is better than Curry this year because he had won the chip despite Curry having a 100x better regular season then you can't say LeBron was the best 2009 and 2010 when Kobe was winning rings and LeBron wasn't even making the finals. Again, same concept in 2008 Kobe made the finals and was the league MVP while LeBron lost round 2 so how was LeBron better?


It's real simple..


Player: Reg season - Playoffs - Total

Curry 2016: 10 - 7 - 17
Lebron 2016: 9 - 9.5 - 18.5


Kobe 2009: 9 - 9 - 18
Lebron 2009: 10 - 9.5 - 19.5

Kobe 2010: 8.5 - 8.5 - 17
Lebron 2010: 10 - 7 - 17



And that's being generous. Lebron had a great first round against Chicago in 2010 and his Boston series was great for half of the series. So I'd give it a 8 in total if it was me, but i'll be nice and give you a 7.

feyki
06-26-2016, 04:26 PM
You can't be this stupid.:facepalm
One series does not define an entire season.

Dirk was top 3 in 07 and Lebron was top 3 in 2011.
That's like saying Curry wasn't the top 3 in 2016 because he choked in the Finals.

But Lebron can be the best with a series , that self contradictory :applause: .

Bankaii
06-26-2016, 05:00 PM
But Lebron can be the best with a series , that self contradictory :applause: .
They're not the same at all.
Having a phenomenal season and one bad series shouldn't completely diminish everything you did.
Having a great season then a GOAT level series can put you over the top.
How do you not understand the difference?

Besides Where did I say one series made lebron the best:facepalm

3ball
06-26-2016, 05:03 PM
I like how there's a ton of debate on this issue - it isn't clear-cut like when Jordan was the best player for 9 years from 1988-1993 and 1996-1998

tmacattack33
06-26-2016, 05:08 PM
I like how there's a ton of debate on this issue - it isn't clear-cut like when Jordan was the best player for 9 years from 1988-1993 and 1996-1998

We're 20 years removed from it.

I bet in 93 there was some debate about a few of those years.

Dray n Klay
06-26-2016, 05:08 PM
I like how there's a ton of debate on this issue - it isn't clear-cut like when Jordan was the best player for 9 years from 1988-1993 and 1996-1998


Jordan wasn't the best player in 1988, 1990, and 1997

NBAGOAT
06-26-2016, 05:11 PM
I like how there's a ton of debate on this issue - it isn't clear-cut like when Jordan was the best player for 9 years from 1988-1993 and 1996-1998

88 Bird
93 Hakeem

3ball
06-26-2016, 05:13 PM
88 Bird
93 Hakeem


In 1988, Jordan won MVP, scoring title and DPOY - best offensive and defensive player, and most valuable, which means he's > Bird easily

In 1993, Hakeem was ringles, whereas Jordan 3-peated with his 3rd FMVP, while breaking the Finals scoring record (41/9/6).

keep dreaming bud

NBAGOAT
06-26-2016, 05:28 PM
In 1988, Jordan won MVP, scoring title and DPOY - best offensive and defensive player, and most valuable, which means he's > Bird easily

In 1993, Hakeem was ringles, whereas Jordan 3-peated with his 3rd FMVP, while breaking the Finals scoring record (41/9/6).

keep dreaming bud

Half of your accolades are double standards :oldlol:. I think you know who went ringless in 88 and didn't win MVP in 1993. Who won DPOY in 1993? I think you know who won that year too but your agenda made you not mention it. MVP isn't everything, notice how I didn't mention 89 or 90 even though Jordan didn't win MVP either since he was definitely the best players those years(also ringless).

3ball
06-26-2016, 05:33 PM
Half of your accolades are double standards :oldlol:. I think you know who went ringless in 88 and didn't win MVP in 1993. Who won DPOY in 1993? I think you know who won that year too but your agenda made you not mention it. MVP isn't everything, notice how I didn't mention 89 or 90 even though Jordan didn't win MVP either since he was definitely the best players those years(also ringless).
I merely shot down the 2 names you gave me with facts

it's funny - you want to say Lebron is the best this year with his 1-peat, but Jordan 3-peated and set the Finals record in 1993, yet you're trying to hate on him and say someone else is better - it's pathetic.

Fudge
06-26-2016, 05:38 PM
2008 - LeBron
2009 - LeBron
2010 - LeBron
2011 - LeBron
2012 - LeBron
2013 - LeBron
2014 - LeBron/Durant
2015 - LeBron/Curry
2016 - LeBron

3ball
06-26-2016, 05:41 PM
2008 - LeBron
2009 - LeBron
2010 - LeBron
2011 - LeBron
2012 - LeBron
2013 - LeBron
2014 - LeBron/Durant
2015 - LeBron/Curry
2016 - LeBron
Joke list obviously.

Lebron quit in 2010 after his mom got banged by one of his teammates, and Lebron was the 3rd leading scorer on his team in the 2011 Finals (only 17 ppg with the GOAT choke).

He was CAPABLE of that kind of shrinkage - Delonte and Dirk did it to him, just imagine what Jordan would do

NBAGOAT
06-26-2016, 05:45 PM
I merely shot down the 2 names you gave me with facts

it's funny - you want to say Lebron is the best this year with his 1-peat, but Jordan 3-peated and set the Finals record in 1993, yet you're trying to hate on him and say someone else is better - it's pathetic.

or I could say you're hating on Bird in 88 when he was a proven champion and was still in his prime. I never even said Lebron was the best this year so nice strawman there.

Fudge
06-26-2016, 05:56 PM
Joke list obviously.

Lebron quit in 2010 after his mom got banged by one of his teammates, and Lebron was the 3rd leading scorer on his team in the 2011 Finals (only 17 ppg with the GOAT choke).

He was CAPABLE of that kind of shrinkage - Delonte and Dirk did it to him, just imagine what Jordan would do
Meltdown much?

Dray n Klay
06-26-2016, 05:57 PM
Meltdown much?


:lol :lol

scuzzy
06-26-2016, 05:59 PM
Meltdown much?
Can confirm:lol

Trollsmasher
06-26-2016, 06:07 PM
Meltdown much?
3ball destroyed:roll:

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2016, 06:12 PM
Meltdown much?

:roll: :roll:

Young X
06-26-2016, 06:25 PM
I don't think he was the best last year.

Spurs m8
06-26-2016, 06:27 PM
2014 - Durant

bobopenguin
06-26-2016, 07:39 PM
Meltdown much?

:roll: :roll:

a retarded kid one line reply. :lol

Hey Yo
06-26-2016, 07:51 PM
Joke list obviously.

Lebron quit in 2010 after his mom got banged by one of his teammates, and Lebron was the 3rd leading scorer on his team in the 2011 Finals (only 17 ppg with the GOAT choke).

He was CAPABLE of that kind of shrinkage - Delonte and Dirk did it to him, just imagine what Jordan would do
That was still Wade's team...who then gave up the captaincy to LeBron the following season. Which led to B2B titles while leading the team, in every series of those posteason's,......in pts, rebounds and assists.

K Xerxes
06-26-2016, 07:54 PM
In my book he was the best overall player in 09, 10, 12, 13, 15 and 16.

14 is debatable with Durant. 11 is very debatable with Wade, Dirk and Howard.

So I got him best player for 6-8 years. A very impressive run.

SouBeachTalents
06-26-2016, 07:56 PM
That was still Wade's team...who then gave up the captaincy to LeBron the following season. Which led to B2B titles while leading the team, in every series of those posteason's,......in pts, rebounds and assists.

Even after his 3rd FMVP still can't admit LeBron choked that series

DirkNowitzki41
06-26-2016, 07:59 PM
Since he entered the league:

04: Garnett
05: Duncan
06: LeBron/Kobe
07: LeBron/Kobe
08: LeBron/Kobe
09: LeBron
10: LeBron
11: LeBron/Dirk
12: LeBron
13: LeBron
14: LeBron
15: LeBron
16: LeBron

That's 8 straight years where he's been the clear best and then 3 pre-prime years more when he was only slightly better than prime Kobe...those are somewhat debatable.

Simply LeGendary.

fixed.

but LeGendary indeed

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-26-2016, 08:00 PM
I would give Bron;

2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016.

You could make an argument in 2011, but his PUTRID finals stood out like a sore thumb. Wade made the debate close ALL YEAR and probably gets the nod. Either him or Dirk anyway.

2008 is also close. Kobe won MVP and had the stronger team, but LeBron had better individual stats, both in impact (non team) and box score. The game @ Staples where LBJ hit a game-winner over Kobe was a nice little 'you better recognize' statement too.

Hey Yo
06-26-2016, 08:07 PM
Even after his 3rd FMVP still can't admit LeBron choked that series
He referred to Miami as "his team." It wasn't LeBron's team till the following season.

If Miami would have won it all, the stats stayed the same and Wade won FMVP...who would be referred to as "leader/captain of that 2011 team" right now?

chazzy
06-26-2016, 08:19 PM
In 07:

Kobe - maybe

Lol

aj1987
06-27-2016, 03:55 AM
not the guy who averaged 22 ppg on 42% TS and had 6 turnovers per game in the finals. only reason LeBron even made the finals was because the east was garbage. if he was in the west he would've got swept by the spurs round 1 instead of in the finals. you realize the cavs beat one team with a winning record in the playoffs that year right?
You realize that LeBron had a worse supporting cast than what Kobe had in '06, right?

CAstill
06-27-2016, 04:07 AM
You realize that LeBron had a worse supporting cast than what Kobe had in '06, right?

You're full of $hit and a garbage poster. 06 lakers were the worst supporting cast ever. Get your head out LeBrons ass.

aj1987
06-27-2016, 04:16 AM
You're full of $hit and a garbage poster. 06 lakers were the worst supporting cast ever. Get your head out LeBrons ass.
Get Kobe's D out of your mouth and wipe that *** off your face. You might be able to see things more objectively.