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DonDadda59
06-26-2016, 03:48 PM
Iraqi Commander Declares Fallujah 'Fully Liberated' From ISIS

BAGHDAD

Akrazotile
06-26-2016, 04:00 PM
TAKE.

THE OIL.

:crazysam:

IcanzIIravor
06-27-2016, 05:56 AM
On to Mosul now. The Iraqi's led the way so let's cross our fingers that with them fighting and dying for their country this is the road to the end of these militia groups having significant sway over any region in the country.

dunksby
06-27-2016, 06:54 AM
Great news but not surprising if one had been following the situation for the last few months as ISIS took loss after loss were pushed back greatly in both Iraq and Syria. Now if the evil trinity of Turkey, Saudi and Qatar would stop giving the terrorists a leg up, nowadays especially Turkey, this whole thing would wrap up quicker and less bloodier.

UK2K
06-27-2016, 08:17 AM
Great news but not surprising if one had been following the situation for the last few months as ISIS took loss after loss were pushed back greatly in both Iraq and Syria. Now if the evil trinity of Turkey, Saudi and Qatar would stop giving the terrorists a leg up, nowadays especially Turkey, this whole thing would wrap up quicker and less bloodier.

Bin Laden called it years ago...

He dreamed of an Islamic caliphate, but he also warned (in his personal writings) that uprising and claiming all this territory too quickly and pissing off everyone on earth was not a recipe for success. He was right.

Thanks to the US bombing campaign, the Iraqi army has been successful. I will say from watching videos from over there, the Iraqis seem to be.... more competent? It seems like they are actually fighting now and not doing stupid shit like abandoning their armored vehicles and throwing down their weapons.

Winning cures all ills, it seems. The real question is once the communal threat of ISIS is gone, do they go back to killing each other?

nathanjizzle
06-27-2016, 09:52 AM
obama stays winning.

FillJackson
06-27-2016, 10:00 AM
Bin Laden called it years ago...

He dreamed of an Islamic caliphate, but he also warned (in his personal writings) that uprising and claiming all this territory too quickly and pissing off everyone on earth was not a recipe for success. He was right.

Thanks to the US bombing campaign, the Iraqi army has been successful. I will say from watching videos from over there, the Iraqis seem to be.... more competent? It seems like they are actually fighting now and not doing stupid shit like abandoning their armored vehicles and throwing down their weapons.

Winning cures all ills, it seems. The real question is once the communal threat of ISIS is gone, do they go back to killing each other?

The Iraqi army under Maliki was basically a corrupt and hollow army especially in the Sunni areas. He took care of the troops around Baghdad, but up in Mosul? The troops who threw down their weapons did so because their officers had stolen the supply money and left them without a supply of water and food. ISIS didn't even plan to take Mosul, they just wanted to attack it.

Iran is basically not letting that happen again. The head of their QODS force, Qassim Suleimani, was very involved in this battle.

rufuspaul
06-27-2016, 10:24 AM
What a great victory for Obama. After prematurely pulling all of our troops out of Iraq and ignoring the threat of ISIS Fallujah has been liberated. After a mere 2 1/2 years of brutal ISIS occupation. They will worship Barry as a great liberator now.

Dresta
06-27-2016, 10:51 AM
What a great victory for Obama. After prematurely pulling all of our troops out of Iraq and ignoring the threat of ISIS Fallujah has been liberated. After a mere 2 1/2 years of brutal ISIS occupation. They will worship Barry as a great liberator now.
I also like the propaganda that portrays this as a victory for the Iraqi army, when without the aid of Shia militia that army may well not even have been capable of defending the capital, let alone retake parts of the country.

dunksby
06-27-2016, 10:55 AM
Bin Laden called it years ago...

He dreamed of an Islamic caliphate, but he also warned (in his personal writings) that uprising and claiming all this territory too quickly and pissing off everyone on earth was not a recipe for success. He was right.

Thanks to the US bombing campaign, the Iraqi army has been successful. I will say from watching videos from over there, the Iraqis seem to be.... more competent? It seems like they are actually fighting now and not doing stupid shit like abandoning their armored vehicles and throwing down their weapons.

Winning cures all ills, it seems. The real question is once the communal threat of ISIS is gone, do they go back to killing each other?
I found Iraqis and Afghans very cowardly, most of their troops are there to collect a paycheck, I'd say American and Russian airstrikes, in Iraq and Syria, plus the backing of Iranian forces and the Kurds on the ground have given Iraqi and Syrian army the push to fight. And yes, as you put it, victory cures all type of cowardice.

UK2K
06-27-2016, 11:05 AM
The Iraqi army under Maliki was basically a corrupt and hollow army especially in the Sunni areas. He took care of the troops around Baghdad, but up in Mosul? The troops who threw down their weapons did so because their officers had stolen the supply money and left them without a supply of water and food. ISIS didn't even plan to take Mosul, they just wanted to attack it.

Iran is basically not letting that happen again. The head of their QODS force, Qassim Suleimani, was very involved in this battle.

Some did...

Most Sunnis brought their weapons with them to the other side:


The battle for Ramadi, in Iraq’s western Anbar province, is illustrative of this duplicity. The city’s Sunni officials, in a series of interviews conducted over a period of five months, told International Business Times that Sunni tribal leaders, funded by Gulf businessmen, helped ISIS take over the provincial capital in May. Seven months later, ISIS controls an area stretching from the Syrian border, east of Iraq's second-largest city, Mosul, to the outskirts of Baghdad.

U.S. military advisors are training local Sunni forces to recapture the strategic city, but those efforts have so far failed to expel the group, which is one of the best equipped and wealthiest in the region. The tribal leaders provide ISIS with intelligence, cash and weapons that help it to stave off U.S.-backed Iraqi military forces and ensure the group retains the upper hand in battle. Many leaders have formally pledged allegiance to the militant group.

We should bring in more Sunni refugees to the US. That's a good idea.

UK2K
06-27-2016, 11:08 AM
I found Iraqis and Afghans very cowardly, most of their troops are there to collect a paycheck, I'd say American and Russian airstrikes, in Iraq and Syria, plus the backing of Iranian forces and the Kurds on the ground have given Iraqi and Syrian army the push to fight. And yes, as you put it, victory cures all type of cowardice.

For a people who have been at war for hundreds of years, they absolutely suck at anything related to combat. I mean, suck. Balls.

Many times we'd have been better off without them.

FillJackson
06-27-2016, 11:22 AM
Some did...

Most Sunnis brought their weapons with them to the other side:


The people you are speaking of are not the people I am speaking of.

The Iraqi army does not equal Sunni tribes.