Switch Kyrie Irving and UMVP Steph, GSW wins in 5.

[LakersDaBEst]

Kyrie dropped 27ppg while hitting high 40s in fg and 3s.

Meanwhile , Curry couldnt do sht

Im happy that Dray Klay and Barnes finally get to play mvp level pg on big stage. Olympics 2016

[aj1987]

Kyrie dropped 27ppg while hitting high 40s in fg and 3s.

Meanwhile , Curry couldnt do sht

Im happy that Dray Klay and Barnes finally get to play mvp level pg on big stage. Olympics 2016
Pretty much the same as replacing Kobe with Derozan in '10 and expecting the Lakers to sweep.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Warriors in 6

[Smoke117]

Eh...I highly doubt this. Kyrie Irving has become so massively overrated over a 20 game sample size that it's laughable...he's a fringe top 5 pg in the league.

[LakersDaBEst]

Eh...I highly doubt this. Kyrie Irving has become so massively overrated over a 20 game sample size that it's laughable...he's a fringe top 5 pg in the league.

He came thru when it matters the most.

27 ppg in the Finals nigguh

[RedBlackAttack]

Eh...I highly doubt this. Kyrie Irving has become so massively overrated over a 20 game sample size that it's laughable...he's a fringe top 5 pg in the league.
There's just no talking with some people. He did in these playoffs exactly what was expected of him in last year's postseason before the injuries started to mount up. He was an All NBA player at 22 last year and that was under a new coach with an entirely new team.

This regular season he spent trying to get right for the playoffs after suffering a broken kneecap, the same injury that knocked Blake Griffin out for an entire calendar year. And, it worked. He was the second best player in the entire playoffs and had clutch moment after clutch moment.

It's really bizarre how some people are so dug in on their opinion of him that they're unwilling to even consider the possibility that they've been wrong about him. We call that confirmation bias.

If anything he's underrated.

[Orlando Magic]

Haha this thread trolls Currystans and LeBronstans alike. Approved.

[tpols]

possibly .. but the question is with warrior's second option (klay) playing like shit and cavs second option obviously having a real nice Finals, would kyrie be able to replicate his performance with an inferior second option? because bron was pretty damn good for him ...

and then there's the whole issue of kyrie liking to dribble and iso a lot.. thats not really the warriors game, so the fit might be off.

[moongaze]

Eh...I highly doubt this. Kyrie Irving has become so massively overrated over a 20 game sample size that it's laughable...he's a fringe top 5 pg in the league.

You act like those 20 games were meaningless games and oh, it was just a small sample size. No, it was a big sample size. 21 postseason games, especially 7 in the finals tells you a lot about a player. They're going up against greater competition and effort each night.

With posts like yours, there's no way that Kyrie is overrated. I think he's the most underrated player I've ever seen, infact. How many times have we heard that he's not a top 5 pg, not even a top 10 pg? During the season, people on this site were seriously arguing that Matthew dellavedova is a better pg than him. Even after the finals a lot of the credit in the media has gone to lebron. It's almost as if Kyrie had no impact on the series the way the narrative has been that "lebron came back down 3-1". "lebron leads the cavs down 3-1" and now it's that " the block was more important than the shot"

I don't agree with ops post, as it's retarded, but Kyrie is far from overrated

[aj1987]

possibly .. but the question is with warrior's second option (klay) playing like shit and cavs second option obviously having a real nice Finals, would kyrie be able to replicate his performance with an inferior second option? because bron was pretty damn good for him ...

and then there's the whole issue of kyrie liking to dribble and iso a lot.. thats not really the warriors game, so the fit might be off.
Are you implying that LeBron was the second option on the Cavs?

[tpols]

Are you implying that LeBron was the second option on the Cavs?


are you starting to trigger .. ?

[aj1987]

are you starting to trigger .. ?
Are you still melting?

That response pretty much answered my question anyways.

[ShawkFactory]

Are you implying that LeBron was the second option on the Cavs?
Offensively, especially in the half court, he very well might have been.

That doesn't mean that Kyrie > Lebron as a player.

Bird was the second option offensively in the 1986 finals. Don't think anyone would ever consider McHale > Bird because of it. Ditto with Dumars/Isiah in 1989.

Kyrie was matched up with a somewhat hobbled guy while Lebron was matched up with two of the premier SF defenders in the league. Kyrie SHOULD have been the first option, and he proved that he could be.

Obviously, overall, Lebron was the better player.

[RedBlackAttack]

Offensively, especially in the half court, he very well might have been.

That doesn't mean that Kyrie > Lebron as a player.

Bird was the second option offensively in the 1986 finals. Don't think anyone would ever consider McHale > Bird because of it. Ditto with Dumars/Isiah in 1989.

Kyrie was matched up with a somewhat hobbled guy while Lebron was matched up with two of the premier SF defenders in the league. Kyrie SHOULD have been the first option, and he proved that he could be.

Obviously, overall, Lebron was the better player.
Klay Thompson spent the majority of the series on Kyrie... not that it mattered. He went off on every guy on the team at some point in the series. But, the primary defender was Klay, not Steph. That's what makes it even more impressive.

[tpols]

Kyrie was matched up with a somewhat hobbled guy while Lebron was matched up with two of the premier SF defenders in the league. .

iggy was far more hobbled than curry ever was by the end of the series.. the man could barely run up the court, couldnt hit FTs, couldnt finish anything on the break or around the rim .. he was basically a statue whose sole purpose was to shade off bron and use quick hands to poke at the ball.. but he was a shell compared to curry.

besides, kyrie was klay's assignment, who is the best perimeter defender on the team and took all the tough assignments throughout the playoffs

[CTbasketball92]

I don't agree with this post, but I do think Irving could thrive in the GSW system, but he'd probably alter it significantly.

I think Kyrie is overrated if you put him in the top 5, but he should be considered a definite top 5 pg. I'd say if Kyrie can replicate his postseason run within a few points -- so let's say 24 ppg and 5.5 assists on 48% shooting and 40%> three, he's definitely a top 10 player. No other player I can think of can take over against any player except people in the top 5.

[Pointguard]

I agree with the statement primarily because penetrating is a more reliable quality than shooting. But Curry is likely to have an incredible shooting streak one year that will make this statement look silly. It just wasn't his year. Kyrie is under-rated to me. But I love exciting players because I go to games to watch them. But I don't know if Kyrie or Curry could carry a team just yet.

[moongaze]

Steph Curry's playoff averages through 58 games:

44.4 % fg.
40.8 % 3pt

25.7 ppg

Kyrie Irving playoff averages through 34 games:

46.4 % fg
44.3 % 3pt

22.9 ppg