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Wally450
06-29-2016, 03:32 PM
Why does nobody ever say "Kobe can't shoot" or "He can't make that shot consistently"?

People only give sh*t to LeBron.


Both averaged 4 attempts for their career.

Quickening
06-29-2016, 03:34 PM
Top 3 all time gets judged to a higher standard than top 15

NBAGOAT
06-29-2016, 03:39 PM
because Kobe's bad percentages partially come from bad shot selection. Lebron's take bad 3's off the dribble too but they're usually less contested or off balance. Kobe's outside shooting and midrange can be overrated however. He's no MJ or Dirk from midrange. Guys like Pierce or Carter are better 3 pt shooters.

GoatBoy
06-29-2016, 03:40 PM
Why does nobody ever say "Kobe can't shoot" or "He can't make that shot consistently"?

People only give sh*t to LeBron.


Both averaged 4 attempts for their career.
The reason Kobe's percentage is so low is because of his shot selection. You could live with it because of his insane ability to get hot at any time. The dude has the record for 3pt FGM in a game :confusedshrug:

MP.Trey
06-29-2016, 03:43 PM
Kobe makes tough shots. LeBron makes easy ones.

It's a case of skills vs. smarts when it comes to outside shooting for them.

LeBron can't make the shots Kobe can, Kobe can make the shots LeBron can, but he can't get the shots LeBron does because they have to respect LeBron's driving ability much more than they did Kobe.

Keno
06-29-2016, 03:48 PM
im new to basketball and what i got from posts in this thread are, this kobe guy has very low iq and terrible shot selection.

RRR3
06-29-2016, 03:52 PM
Kobe makes tough shots. LeBron makes easy ones.

It's a case of skills vs. smarts when it comes to outside shooting for them.

LeBron can't make the shots Kobe can, Kobe can make the shots LeBron can, but he can't get the shots LeBron does because they have to respect LeBron's driving ability much more than they did Kobe.
LeBron has made a ton of difficult 3s. Just cuz he sucks at 3s now doesn't mean he always did

GoatBoy
06-29-2016, 03:55 PM
LeBron has made a ton of difficult 3s. Just cuz he sucks at 3s now doesn't mean he always did
Compared to Kobe, not so many...

RRR3
06-29-2016, 03:58 PM
LeBrons shot selection isn't as good as people think it is tbh.

34-24 Footwork
06-29-2016, 03:59 PM
So far, no one in this thread has seen kobe play from 2000-2007....which has been confirmed numerous times.

"People didn't respect Kobe's Driving ability":lol :lol

"Kobe can't get the looks and opportunities that Lebron gets":lol :lol


"Kobe and Lebron are pretty much neck and neck from beyond the arc" :roll: :roll:

I mean....how aren't these replies considered as troll bait??



I'll leave you guys with this:

1 guy scored more points in 3 quarters than the other guy scored in his entire career.

lakerspng
06-29-2016, 04:01 PM
Because people usually contest Kobe's 3s much more heavily and they usually give Lebron more space because his drive is far more dangerous than his outside shot.

also near the end of shot clocks, LeBron is more likely to try and find a teammate for a shot and Kobe's much more likely to try and get a shot for himself, so he's taken much more end of shot clock low percentage shots.

Different style of players. As a shooter, Kobe's simply better; better form, better fundamentals, better shot. It's kind of ridiculous to use stats and only stats to judge a player's shooting ability.

The only even ground in that way, no one challenging the shot, standing still, same distance, is free throws... what's their career ft% head to head?

RRR3
06-29-2016, 04:01 PM
Kobe shot a dazzling 25% on 3s in 2001, taking less than 2 a game. GOAT

RRR3
06-29-2016, 04:03 PM
Because people usually contest Kobe's 3s much more heavily and they usually give Lebron more space because his drive is far more dangerous than his outside shot.

also near the end of shot clocks, LeBron is more likely to try and find a teammate for a shot and Kobe's much more likely to try and get a shot for himself, so he's taken much more end of shot clock low percentage shots.

Different style of players. As a shooter, Kobe's simply better; better form, better fundamentals, better shot. It's kind of ridiculous to use stats and only stats to judge a player's shooting ability.

The only even ground in that way, no one challenging the shot, standing still, same distance, is free throws... what's their career ft% head to head?
Kobe is definitely a better shooter than LeBron, but FTs don't necessarily prove much. John Wall is a better FT shooter than JR Smith for instance

34-24 Footwork
06-29-2016, 04:04 PM
I'd never call Kobe a better shooter than Curry or Klay Thompson. He's not even in the same class.

But His ability to create space and being a 2-motion shooter allows kobe to shoot over nearly anyone on the court.

His shooting ability is complemented by his extremely quick first step which leaves the defender naturally "at bay".

Very similar to Kyrie except he's smaller. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw Kyrie drop 75 points or something before anyone else does.

34-24 Footwork
06-29-2016, 04:05 PM
Kobe shot a dazzling 25% on 3s in 2001, taking less than 2 a game. GOAT

You realize that the Kobe from 2001 is MILES different than the Kobe you saw growing up, correct?

SexSymbol
06-29-2016, 04:06 PM
I remember when I had a synergy account I've looked through Kobe shooting from 3 wide open or with late defense and the percentages were always 40+
He's a marksman when he's taking good 3pt shots, but with the attention he's gotten defensively throughout the years that isn't a very common thing.
It's hard to maintain a very high percentage from anywhere when your main role offensively is to bail out the team when the triangle doesn't work

lakerspng
06-29-2016, 04:07 PM
Kobe is definitely a better shooter than LeBron, but FTs don't necessarily prove much. John Wall is a better FT shooter than JR Smith for instance

They kind of do though. All the best % FT shooters in history are also the best 3pt shooters aren't they? I would say it doesn't have complete bearing on a player's ability during a game to be effective, because there are so many other factors, but it does show who is simply; a better shooter.

RRR3
06-29-2016, 04:08 PM
You realize that the Kobe from 2001 is MILES different than the Kobe you saw growing up, correct?
You used Kobe from 00-07 to make your argument. 01 falls in that time period

Klay 3D
06-29-2016, 04:10 PM
Kobe is a dunk champ. Please don't bring Lebron up in the same sentence as the black mamba.

MP.Trey
06-29-2016, 04:14 PM
So far, no one in this thread has seen kobe play from 2000-2007....which has been confirmed numerous times.

"People didn't respect Kobe's Driving ability":lol :lol

"Kobe can't get the looks and opportunities that Lebron gets":lol :lol


"Kobe and Lebron are pretty much neck and neck from beyond the arc" :roll: :roll:

I mean....how aren't these replies considered as troll bait??



I'll leave you guys with this:

1 guy scored more points in 3 quarters than the other guy scored in his entire career.
If you think a defender is as scared to leave LeBron open as they are to leave Kobe open, you're delusional.

If you think a defender is as scared as Kobe driving to the basket on them as LeBron, you're delusional.

I'm giving both great players props, why can't you admit the strengths and weaknesses of both players?

34-24 Footwork
06-29-2016, 04:16 PM
You used Kobe from 00-07 to make your argument. 01 falls in that time period

If you didn't see him play and haven't even bothered to watch FULL games from that Lakers era, just don't comment.

Kobe was a better slasher than Lebron, a forceful finisher and a 2 footed jumper.

He used his jumper to keep the defense from collapsing too much on Shaq and to stretch out the defense.

34-24 Footwork
06-29-2016, 04:21 PM
If you think a defender is as scared to leave LeBron open as they are to leave Kobe open, you're delusional.

If you think a defender is as scared as Kobe driving to the basket on them as LeBron, you're delusional.

I'm giving both great players props, why can't you admit the strengths and weaknesses of both players?

Once again...which Kobe are you talking about? If you're talking about 2008-Retirebe, then I agree with you 10000%


If you're legitimately trying to convince me that defenses werent worried about Kobe driving to the bucket from 2000-2006 as much as Bron, then you, my friend, are delusional.

Bron is one of the best slashers and drivers I've ever seen, by the way.

Lol @ getting to the basket being a weakness for Frobe

Living Being
06-29-2016, 04:31 PM
FT:

Kobe: 83.7%
LeBron: 74.4%

lakerspng
06-29-2016, 04:35 PM
Kobe did not have a weakness shooting or slashing, he had no holes in his game on offense and that's why he was so hard to guard and why teams were petrified when they played him. His first step was lightning and his body coordination on par with anyone, and he had no fear of attacking any player on the floor and it made his drive deadly... his only weakness on offense that they could exploit was his inability to believe anyone could stop him, even double or triple teams. Kobe did make spectacular plays setting up teammates for easy shots throughout his career and was an incredible playmaker but he definitely looked to how he could score first.

LeBron is nearly impossible to stop going to the basket and his ability to find open guys and his willingness and ability to make pin-point accurate passes make him likewise an incredibly deadly player, his only weakness is his shooting touch from outside 15 feet and even though he can hit shots, of all his skills it's the only one you can really exploit.

Both players are so damn gifted and have achieved so much, it's just so f'n lame when people troll on them.

NBAGOAT
06-29-2016, 04:38 PM
younger Kobe might be comparable slashing wise but half of how well you score in the paint is your finishing ability. Kobe was pretty good at finishing but Lebron's one of the best all time at that.

LikeABosh
06-29-2016, 04:47 PM
Kobe took like SICK fadeaway threes though.

RRR3
06-29-2016, 05:20 PM
So Kobe was a better slasher and shooter? How the hell did LeBron still score more then?

Mr Feeny
06-29-2016, 06:27 PM
So Kobe was a better slasher and shooter? How the hell did LeBron still score more then?

Did somebody really say that Kobe was in the same league as lebron when it comes to slashing?:roll: I doubt anyone said that. That might be the dumbest statement ever made on here:oldlol:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-29-2016, 06:53 PM
Because Kobe was a better jumpshooter from midrange, long midrange and the FT line. That and dude was better at creating his own shot.

LeBron is clearly the superior player, but lets not get carried away and start posing silly questions. This topic feels troll-ish as f*ck. :oldlol:

G0ATbe
06-29-2016, 06:54 PM
Because 1 never dares to take full court shots and gets left wide open all the fking time?

What a shitty thread.

ArbitraryWater
06-29-2016, 06:58 PM
Kobe was apparently a better slasher and got better looks, and better from 3, and more skilled, but still somehow, his final tally is 45% for 27 ppg, where as Bron's is 54% for 27 ppg :lol (primes)

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-29-2016, 07:09 PM
Kobe was apparently a better slasher and got better looks, and better from 3, and more skilled, but still somehow, his final tally is 45% for 27 ppg, where as Bron's is 54% for 27 ppg :lol (primes)

Is LeBron a better shooter than Kobe?

A simple yes or no will suffice. :cheers:

Dray n Klay
06-29-2016, 07:11 PM
Is LeBron a better shooter than Kobe?

A simple yes or no will suffice. :cheers:

3-point? slightly


Midrange? Easily

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-29-2016, 07:13 PM
3-point? slightly


Midrange? Easily

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/wtf/wedding-crashers-wtf.gif

NBAGOAT
06-29-2016, 07:17 PM
3-point? slightly


Midrange? Easily

:biggums: wat in the hell. I thought this was obvious to everyone. Lebron's better scoring comes from being a better slasher/all time great finisher and better shot selection. Kobe has the midrange edge and possible 3 pt edge(i take Miami Lebron over Kobe as a 3 pt shooter however).

RRR3
06-29-2016, 07:28 PM
3-point? slightly


Midrange? Easily
:biggums:
LeBron at his best was arguably as good or tiny bit better than Kobe at 3s. 2014 LeBron in particular

But Kobe shits on LeBron in midrange shooting. It's not even remotely close.

Akrazotile
06-29-2016, 07:36 PM
Top 3 all time gets judged to a higher standard than top 15


Here ya go:


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Lebron23
06-29-2016, 09:02 PM
im new to basketball and what i got from posts in this thread are, this kobe guy has very low iq and terrible shot selection.


This

AirBonner
06-29-2016, 09:16 PM
How can kobe be a better shooter when his percentages are so low? You can't use shot selection as an excuse. Basically kobetards think kobe is a better shooter because he is more aesthetically pleasing.

Mr Feeny
06-30-2016, 12:23 PM
How can kobe be a better shooter when his percentages are so low? You can't use shot selection as an excuse. Basically kobetards think kobe is a better shooter because he is more aesthetically pleasing.

Weird logic from the Kobe stans here. Just bizarre.

ArbitraryWater
06-30-2016, 12:56 PM
Is LeBron a better shooter than Kobe?

A simple yes or no will suffice. :cheers:

of course not

that wasnt the issue I had though, as I just stated