Woj: Hassan Whiteside expected to choose between Heat and Mavs

[DirkNowitzki41]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 1h1 hour ago

Sources: As 12:01 AM nears, free agent Hassan Whiteside's focus is centered on Miami and Dallas. Decision could come quickly on July 1.


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[StephHamann]

So he will stay in Miami :lol

[DMAVS41]

Please stay in Miami.

[Cone]

Please stay in Miami.

How come you don't want him in Dallas? I think he'd be great there.

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Mavericks about to get owned again in the off-season. Lol.

[feyki]

Please stay in Miami.

+1

[ArbitraryWater]

stay in MIA, boy

[DMAVS41]

How come you don't want him in Dallas? I think he'd be great there.

he's so over-rated...and not a reliable character guy.

last thing Dallas needs is to max out another guy that doesn't deserve it. just look at the Parsons situation...it was a worse disaster than I ever even imagined.

Do Mavs fans still think Parsons was a good signing? :roll:

[scuzzy]

Mavericks about to get owned again in the off-season. Lol.
Their getting considerations


What are your lakers getting the past four years?


ZIP. ZILTCH. NADDA :lol

[PleezeBehave]

he's so over-rated...and not a reliable character guy.

last thing Dallas needs is to max out another guy that doesn't deserve it. just look at the Parsons situation...it was a worse disaster than I ever even imagined.

Do Mavs fans still think Parsons was a good signing? :roll:

Could you elaborate on that Parsons disaster? There are rumors about the Magic being after him (which I don't want to believe) and throwing a max at him (which I seriously don't want to believe)... so, can you maybe shed some light on this matter? I know so little on his story in Dallas, other than he is injury prone and has weak knee(s?).

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Their getting considerations


What are your lakers getting the past four years?


ZIP. ZILTCH. NADDA :lol

We'll work our way through the draft, bruh. I ain't got no worries.

Gap between off season interest/consideration and championship team is vast.

Cuban is a championship or bust owner.

Lakers/Mavs/Heat/Celtics all in the same boat, tbh.

[DMAVS41]

Could you elaborate on that Parsons disaster? There are rumors about the Magic being after him (which I don't want to believe) and throwing a max at him (which I seriously don't want to believe)... so, can you maybe shed some light on this matter? I know so little on his story in Dallas, other than he is injury prone and has weak knee(s?).


He destroyed our team...not only due to going after him in free agency which broke up a quality team, but with his pathetic play and inability to stay on the court.

It ruined two quality years from Dirk.

The Mavs before Parsons had just taken the champion Spurs to 7. We were only getting better and growing.

We didn't go after a guard in free agency to get him...so then we were left with a huge hole there...which led to the Rondo trade...which means we lost out on Crowder (who happens to be better than Parsons now)...

It was awful for us...never made any sense at all.

Paying Whiteside, in my opinion, would be a similar mistake. Hopefully if he comes he actual plays...but I doubt he comes anyway.

[ArbitraryWater]

He destroyed our team...not only due to going after him in free agency which broke up a quality team, but with his pathetic play and inability to stay on the court.

It ruined two quality years from Dirk.

The Mavs before Parsons had just taken the champion Spurs to 7. We were only getting better and growing.

We didn't go after a guard in free agency to get him...so then we were left with a huge hole there...which led to the Rondo trade...which means we lost out on Crowder (who happens to be better than Parsons now)...

It was awful for us...never made any sense at all.

Paying Whiteside, in my opinion, would be a similar mistake. Hopefully if he comes he actual plays...but I doubt he comes anyway.

https://twitter.com/JoshEberley/status/746069908237123584

this motherfcker is so convinced Parsons is a 'very good' player :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

https://twitter.com/JoshEberley/status/746069908237123584

this motherfcker is so convinced Parsons is a 'very good' player :oldlol:

Maybe in other circumstances, but he was never what the Mavs needed. All he did was take away Dirk's touches (which hurt us because Dirk is way better) and do nothing to help our toughness/defense.

It was a disaster...

Everyone that argued with me on this for the last 2 years should be here admitting I was right.

[Cone]

he's so over-rated...and not a reliable character guy.

last thing Dallas needs is to max out another guy that doesn't deserve it. just look at the Parsons situation...it was a worse disaster than I ever even imagined.

Do Mavs fans still think Parsons was a good signing? :roll:

I do agree there is a risk there. Especially about his character, but I don't know, I feel like the Mavs dont have other options. They have made it clear they want to be competitive as long as Dirk is on the team, and they have a good chance to sign Whiteside.

Who knows, maybe Whiteside signing entices Conley to come as well?

Conley/Wesley/Anderson?/Dirk/Whiteside is pretty good imo.

I do agree about the Parsons signing.. that was a disaster. I loved that Ellis and Dirk pairing, Parsons coming aboard ended that.

[DMAVS41]

I do agree there is a risk there. Especially about his character, but I don't know, I feel like the Mavs dont have other options. They have made it clear they want to be competitive as long as Dirk is on the team, and they have a good chance to sign Whiteside.

Who knows, maybe Whiteside signing entices Conley to come as well?

Conley/Wesley/Anderson?/Dirk/Whiteside is pretty good imo.

I do agree about the Parsons signing.. that was a disaster. I loved that Ellis and Dirk pairing, Parsons coming aboard ended that.

I'm not saying it will be Parsons level bad...it won't.

I just don't want to max that guy out. I'd rather go after different guys.

But with Cuban missing out on every target he's had for a god damn near decade...this is him trying to save face and show he can get a big name free agent. Even if it's a free agent that has no proven track record, is clearly over-rated (Cuban is smart enough to know this), and has character issues that will not mesh well with Rick.

I'd rather have Biyombo. Not saying we can get him, but I'd rather save money if I was a team and go after him than chasing Whiteside.

[Hey Yo]

https://twitter.com/JoshEberley/status/746069908237123584

this motherfcker is so convinced Parsons is a 'very good' player :oldlol:
Parsons answer's random guys question why he thinks he deserves the max.

https://twitter.com/ChandlerParsons/status/747731474749788160

[kentatm]

which led to the Rondo trade

The Mavs traded for Rondo b/c Dirk wanted him. It had nothing to do with Parsons being on the team.

[kentatm]

Maybe in other circumstances, but he was never what the Mavs needed. All he did was take away Dirk's touches (which hurt us because Dirk is way better) and do nothing to help our toughness/defense.

It was a disaster...

Everyone that argued with me on this for the last 2 years should be here admitting I was right.

No, b/c you never based your dislike on him as a Mavs on him being brittle and getting hurt twice. Nobody can predict if a player gets hurt.

Also, the Mavs best lineups last year were when Dirk was at C and Parsons was at PF. So yea, he actually did fit just fine when he was fully healthy.

If he could have stayed healthy they could have done some damage. Since you can't know if a player will get hurt or not you get zero props. :no:

[DMAVS41]

The Mavs traded for Rondo b/c Dirk wanted him. It had nothing to do with Parsons being on the team.

So if the Mavs had signed a starting pg...we still would have made the Rondo trade?

Sorry...just no.

[DMAVS41]

No, b/c you never based your dislike on him as a Mavs on him being brittle and getting hurt twice. Nobody can predict if a player gets hurt.

Also, the Mavs best lineups last year were when Dirk was at C and Parsons was at PF. So yea, he actually did fit just fine when he was fully healthy.

If he could have stayed healthy they could have done some damage. Since you can't know if a player will get hurt or not you get zero props. :no:

The fit never made sense. Hiding behind injury is weak man. Never made sense from a team building standpoint short term or long term.

Remember when I would tell you about the danger of him opting out and just leaving because the contract was so bad?

This is why you don't overpay guys that haven't proven anything when they don't do what you need.

Good fit? Absurd...we needed tough defensive minded wings that could shoot and a pg in free agency that year.

We didn't need Parsons. He never made sense.

If he makes so much sense and he fit so well...why aren't the Mavs making him a priority? Why are they looking at Batum if Parsons is what we need?

This answer should be obvious.

Just tell me this...if you could go back in time;

Would you rather go down my road of going after Thomas/Ariza or sign Parsons?

[StephHamann]

Would you rather go down my road of going after Thomas/Ariza or sign Parsons?

This team would be a 1 round exit regardless

[ROCSteady]

Cuban is obsessed with courting centers

[DMAVS41]

This team would be a 1 round exit regardless

First year...with Tyson as well?

Perhaps, but I'm not so sure.

It would have been last year though that would have changed things...with the kind of cap space we would have had.

We would have wanted to keep Crowder for sure...and potentially Aminu as well.

Look...you guys know your ball. I'm not arguing you don't.

I think I was right on the Parsons move from the jump. And I'm not saying that Parsons himself sucks...I just don't think it was what we needed. I saw a clear path to getting better and it involved making a move like the Tyson trade (which I wrote about and something similar before it happened)...and people killed me when I said I thought fatty Felton could play a role.

And I saw a clear path to getting a better point and sf in here to add to the mix.

We would have essentially traded in Marion/Calderon for IT/Ariza...that is a huge upgrade. We then would have essentially traded in Dalembert for Tyson...another huge upgrade.

For a team that took the champs to 7 and looked as good and smart as we did...I wouldn't write that team off so quickly for winning a round 1 series.

We could have still added Aminu. Crowder would have gotten more burn in and maybe we don't move him. Not sure on that...I never saw the potential in Crowder to be this...and neither did Rick, but maybe Rick trusts him more on a team like the above.

Remember when I was arguing that going after Biyombo was better than DJ anyway? Perhaps making a trade for a guy like Mozgov with Wright and a pick previously?

But...that team is a for sure first round exit? I don't really think that actually. And again...loads of cap the next summer with the ability to go over the cap to retain Tyson...or not bring him back and go the Biyombo route.

We, quite easily, could have built a team that had IT/Ariza/Crowder/Aminu/Harris/Dirk/Biyombo...and still had quite a bit of cap left over last year...and loads this year to retain Biyombo and add pieces. It's absurd how much better that or something similar to that would be. And that is with letting Ellis go...which I wouldn't have wanted to anyway because of the increases coming. I'm not saying it would be exactly that, but it's something along those lines if you did it my way.

All I know is that my way would have yielded better results so far. We all know that.

Doesn't make me right though...maybe if Parsons never gets hurt...we are as good as you and Kentatm say...I just never saw it.

[brownmamba00]

No Lakers tho:(

[DMAVS41]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 3m3 minutes ago
Sources on @TheVertical. Dallas Mavericks emerging as a frontrunner for Miami free agent center Hassan Whiteside. Heat's lost ground on him.

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[feyki]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 3m3 minutes ago
Sources on @TheVertical. Dallas Mavericks emerging as a frontrunner for Miami free agent center Hassan Whiteside. Heat's lost ground on him.

****...

If Conley won't sign with Mavs , ...............

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

DMavs... how about:

Conley/Matthews/Batum/Dirk/Whiteside?

Pipedream, yes. But Mavs are meeting with all 3. In Dallas.

[DMAVS41]

DMavs... how about:

Conley/Matthews/Batum/Dirk/Whiteside?

Pipedream, yes. But Mavs are meeting with all 3. In Dallas.

Yea...that would work.

[Nick Young]

what is this clown Whiteside thinking? In LA we can make him a legend? These lesser teams will do nothing but hold his star back.

[G-train]

Whiteside will be a dominant force for any team, barring injury.

[feyki]

Conley+Bazemore+Biyombo , :rockon:

[DMAVS41]

Conley+Bazemore+Biyombo , :rockon:

Not happening based on all reliable reports.

I wanted us to get Biyombo last year....

I really do hope Dirk leaves if this thing falls apart as usual...Cuban/Nellie should have to pay a price for being this inept at building a team.

[Facepalm]

Dallas gets played again :oldlol: