As a Democrat I'm ashamed of Hilary

[Duderonomy]

I lean left on 70% of the issues but I find it appalling Hilary is the nomination. Her criminal behavior should be frowned upon and she should be a pariah in those circles. Instead they praise her for playing the political"finance" game so well. Never saying no to any special interest and spending hundreds of millions because she is so unlikable and couldn't get any vote without constant paid for press. As much as it pains me I'm going to vote for Trump. Clean it up In 2020 DNC.

[nathanjizzle]

ban any persons named Hilary until we find out what the HELL is going on!

[FillJackson]

Thanks, ConcernTroll. I will take this into consideration.

Also, is there a newsletter I may subscribe to to get more information?

[SilkkTheShocker]

stopped reading at "As a Democrat".

[Duderonomy]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0f/26/07/0f26074df2d50153f7930285b2435fc8.jpg

Just like how Obama had a huge Republican fan base, I think alot of Democrat voters will be against Hilary. Alot of Voters under 30 are automatically Democratic but if Hilary (or like wise corrupt politicians)are the (D) representative I could see them switching their voting habits .

[sammichoffate]

What's her appeal? Someone please logically explain it without referencing Trump please.

[Akrazotile]

What's her appeal? Someone please logically explain it without referencing Trump please.


Dumb people believe the name 'Clinton' can "make the economy gooder."


That's pretty much..... it.

[sammichoffate]

Dumb people believe the name 'Clinton' can "make the economy gooder."


That's pretty much..... it.The voters don't care about the federal investigation, political dynasties that go against their own interests, or selling out their own votes to corporations? Am I getting this right?

[Akrazotile]

The voters don't care about the federal investigation, political dynasties that go against their own interests, or selling out their own votes to corporations? Am I getting this right?


That is correct. These things are complex and give many voters headaches.

However, what these voters lack in rational thinking development, they make up for in spades with emotionally-driven pity complexes. Their hearts ACHE on behalf of transgenders who are not given enough mainstream attention and symbolic pats on the back. If only someone like Obama, or Hillary could come along and say some nice things that will make transgenders smile... well then they can do whatever else they damn well please in Washington. Because they deserve it.

Also, the "let's make everyone equal" game is HIGHLY effective. Realistic, sustainable plans are never presented, but remember... That's not the point. The issue is that they at least SAY they understand what makes the liberal soul burn slow, ie the idea of one guy not having everything his neighbor has and his feelings being hurt as a result.


"REMEMBER THE FEELINGS!!!!"
This, is the call of the liberal...

[DukeDelonte13]

not really a Hillary fan but the email stuff is just so dumb. She's not going to be indicted and she's not going to jail. It's an overly politicized non-scandal.


Meanwhile George W. Bush and Dick Cheney made sh*t up and got the country involved in two wars costing the country trillions.


BUT HILLARY SENT EMAILS FROM A PRIVATE SERVER THOUGH!!

[Kblaze8855]

She has little appeal to me aside from not being Trump. But given two realistic options why does anyone need a different reason? I cant believe more people didnt step up to stop her. You know Uncle Joe is pissed off. He might literally sweep every state that doesnt still wish it was in the confederacy.

Ive never been less enthusiastic about the democratic nominee...which is hard to say considering we had Kerry and Gore. Nobody seems to be voting for anyone aside from the big Trump fans. Normal republicans are voting against Clinton not for Trump and normal democrats are voting against Trump not because they love Clinton. considering how many middle of the road people also hate trump and how many of his own hate him.....it seems clear who wins.

But really....nobody wins. Clinton is just gonna lose by less the way I see it.

Mccain or Romney would probably have killed her.

[Akrazotile]

not really a Hillary fan but the email stuff is just so dumb. She's not going to be indicted and she's not going to jail. It's an overly politicized non-scandal.


Meanwhile George W. Bush and Dick Cheney made sh*t up and got the country involved in two wars costing the country trillions.


BUT HILLARY SENT EMAILS FROM A PRIVATE SERVER THOUGH!!


Which the left promptly lost their shit over.

And who voted for those wars?

Big Hill Dawg.


So they should (and some are) being consistent and losing their shit over Hillary. But many still dont care, SIMPLY bc she has a (D) in front of her name. Ultimately they believe she's more likely to give them handouts than a Republican and that's the main, selfish difference.

Know what I mean, DD?

[Facepalm]

She has little appeal to me aside from not being Trump. But given two realistic options why does anyone need a different reason? I cant believe more people didnt step up to stop her. You know Uncle Joe is pissed off. He might literally sweep every state that doesnt still wish it was in the confederacy.

Ive never been less enthusiastic about the democratic nominee...which is hard to say considering we had Kerry and Gore. Nobody seems to be voting for anyone aside from the big Trump fans. Normal republicans are voting against Clinton not for Trump and normal democrats are voting against Trump not because they love Clinton. considering how many middle of the road people also hate trump and how many of his own hate him.....it seems clear who wins.

But really....nobody wins. Clinton is just gonna lose by less the way I see it.

Mccain or Romney would probably have killed her.

Summed up my feelings on the matter perfectly. I know many others that feel this way as well.

Republicans really ****ed up by not stopping Trump. Think about it, they could have easily owned the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches...but instead, they offer up Trump and will lose the Judicial and Executive..and maybe give up control of Congress as well. What a colossal failure of epic proportions.

[Akrazotile]

She has little appeal to me aside from not being Trump. But given two realistic options why does anyone need a different reason? I cant believe more people didnt step up to stop her. You know Uncle Joe is pissed off. He might literally sweep every state that doesnt still wish it was in the confederacy.

Ive never been less enthusiastic about the democratic nominee...which is hard to say considering we had Kerry and Gore. Nobody seems to be voting for anyone aside from the big Trump fans. Normal republicans are voting against Clinton not for Trump and normal democrats are voting against Trump not because they love Clinton. considering how many middle of the road people also hate trump and how many of his own hate him.....it seems clear who wins.

But really....nobody wins. Clinton is just gonna lose by less the way I see it.

Mccain or Romney would probably have killed her.



Were you just excited for Obama because black?

Gore was infinitely more qualified.

[Facepalm]

But many still dont care, SIMPLY bc she has a (D) in front of her name. Ultimately they believe she's more likely to give them handouts than a Republican and that's the main, selfish difference.




Nope, it's because the Republicans offered up a moronic orangutan as the alternative.

[Facepalm]

Were you just excited for Obama because black?

Gore was infinitely more qualified.
McCain would have beaten Obama if he didn't pick Palin as the VP. Another example of Republicans shooting themselves in the foot.

[Akrazotile]

Summed up my feelings on the matter perfectly. I know many others that feel this way as well.

Republicans really ****ed up by not stopping Trump. Think about it, they could have easily owned the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches...but instead, they offer up Trump and will lose the Judicial and Executive..and maybe give up control of Congress as well. What a colossal failure of epic proportions.


Except most Republicans were sick of Republican politicians. Apparently they can figure out what they want without suggestive party labels. Republicans were sick of the kinds of candidates they get.

Dems still lap up whatever is given to them. Thats why Republicans got their outsider even if hes not perfect. Dems got force fed Shillary through a corrupt process and shes lightyears from perfect.

And dems bragging about it :oldlol:


:facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

Were you just excited for Obama because black?

Gore was infinitely more qualified.
...and Clinton is more qualified than both of them if you want to use that argument.

[Akrazotile]

...and Clinton is more qualified than both of them if you want to use that argument.


Yeah but he said hes not excited about Hillary. Nor was he about Kerry, or Gore.

Just Obama :ohwell:

[Facepalm]

Except most Republicans were sick of Republican politicians. Apparently they can figure out what they want without suggestive party labels. Republicans were sick of the kinds of candidates they get.

Dems still lap up whatever is given to them. Thats why Republicans got their outsider even if hes not perfect. Dems got force fed Shillary through a corrupt process and shes lightyears from perfect.

And dems bragging about it :oldlol:


:facepalm

Hillary is still light years better than Trump no matter what way you try to slice it.

[DonDadda59]

Yeah but he said hes not excited about Hillary. Nor was he about Kerry, or Gore.

Just Obama :ohwell:

Barry O is the GOAT hype man. Interpersonal and connectivity skills off the charts. :applause:


...and Clinton is more qualified than both of them if you want to use that argument.

Yup. First and only female member of the board of directors of the largest company in America. Was integral in getting 8 million kids health coverage as first lady and was the first to attempt to get comprehensive health insurance change during the HillaryCare saga. 2 term Senator, Secretary of State.

Easy to see why many people, including the incumbent President, consider her the most qualified candidate ever.

[Duderonomy]

Yup. First and only female member of the board of directors of the largest company in America. Was integral in getting 8 million kids health coverage as first lady and was the first to attempt to get comprehensive health insurance change during the HillaryCare saga. 2 term Senator, Secretary of State.

Easy to see why many people, including the incumbent President, consider her the most qualified candidate ever.
Hilarycare didn't get passed in a majority Democratic Congress and ended up costing tens of millions in tax dollars. I know you like to troll Trump supporters but at this point you are just making yourself look bad :(

Hilary is sh** show. And there is only so much lipstick you can put on a pig.

[Nick Young]

What's her appeal? Someone please logically explain it without referencing Trump please.
Because it's 2016 and it's about time we have a woman as our president!

[DonDadda59]

Hilarycare didn't get passed in a majority Democratic Congress and ended up costing tens of millions in tax dollars.

And those Democrats were wiped out during subsequent elections for a reason. The Conservatives and insurance industry spent far more money on their smear campaign (much like the $7 million just wasted the on the latest pointless Benghazi wild goose chase). This is what Bill Kristol said in '93 (same Bill Kristol who is now leading the Never Trump movement):


The long-term political effects of a successful... health care bill will be even worse—much worse.... It will revive the reputation of... Democrats as the generous protector of middle-class interests. And it will at the same time strike a punishing blow against Republican claims to defend the middle class by restraining government.

— William Kristol, "Defeating President Clinton's Healthcare Proposal", December 1993


Purely political. And many of the provisions that are now protecting Americans via Obamacare were originally components of Hillarycare, preexisting conditions being a barrier to health coverage being a prime example.

She was also integral in getting 8 million children covered by health insurers via SCHIP.



I know you like to troll Trump supporters but at this point you are just making yourself look bad :(

Meanwhile, earlier today...

Trump Taj Mahal Workers Strike Over Lost Healthcare and Pension (http://www.telegram.com/news/20160701/union-goes-on-strike-against-trump-taj-mahal-casino)

A few weeks ago: Hundreds of Workers claim Drumpf Never Paid Them (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282933-report-trump-has-refused-to-pay-hundreds-of-workers)

The King of Debt. Mr. Bankruptcy himself. :applause:

Can you give me the particulars of his health plan? I remember something about 'lines' when he was describing it during a debate.


And there is only so much lipstick you can put on a pig.

Amen, bruh. A-F*cking-Men.

http://www.steveaoki.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Trump.jpg

[~primetime~]

Hillary knows what she is doing, Trump doesn't...it is THAT simple

Hillary is infinitely more qualified to run this country than Trump, who constantly says outlandish shit showing how clueless he is to reality.


If Hillary said "We need to ban all muslims"...people would flip the fck out because retarded outlandish statements are not expected from her, she knows better. Stupid comments like that are expected from Trump but somehow excused because that's the norm with him.

Hillary has a grasp on how the world works, she has a legit 8-year internship in the White House. Trump knows reality TV.

This is the absolute biggest no-brainer of an election I have ever witnessed in my life. Qualified politician, or Clueless Egocentric Reality TV star?

[Nanners]

you arent the only person who feels that way OP.

the decision to throw the entire democrat establishment weight behind a corrupt warmongering corporate puppet like Hillary is going to come back to haunt the democrats for years to come.

[Nick Young]

Hillary knows what she is doing, Trump doesn't...it is THAT simple

Hillary is infinitely more qualified to run this country than Trump, who constantly says outlandish shit showing how clueless he is to reality.


If Hillary said "We need to ban all muslims"...people would flip the fck out because retarded outlandish statements are not expected from her, she knows better. Stupid comments like that are expected from Trump but somehow excused because that's the norm with him.

Hillary has a grasp on how the world works, she has a legit 8-year internship in the White House. Trump knows reality TV.

This is the absolute biggest no-brainer of an election I have ever witnessed in my life. Qualified politician, or Clueless Egocentric Reality TV star?
Hillary has experience. Experience at doing a shit job and ****ing up and letting Americans get slaughtered in Benghazi.

[DeuceWallaces]

You people need to get a grip. I'm not her biggest fan, but jesus christ. She's been raked over the coals for 2 straight years and pretty much nothing has come of it. She's no different than any other career politician working in our fundraising system.

[Akrazotile]

Hillary knows what she is doing, Trump doesn't...it is THAT simple

Hillary is infinitely more qualified to run this country than Trump, who constantly says outlandish shit showing how clueless he is to reality.


If Hillary said "We need to ban all muslims"...people would flip the fck out because retarded outlandish statements are not expected from her, she knows better. Stupid comments like that are expected from Trump but somehow excused because that's the norm with him.

Hillary has a grasp on how the world works, she has a legit 8-year internship in the White House. Trump knows reality TV.

This is the absolute biggest no-brainer of an election I have ever witnessed in my life. Qualified politician, or Clueless Egocentric Reality TV star?


Of course she knows what she's doing. :oldlol: She's selling out her country to fill her coffers and pad the pockets of her cronies. She's the definition of a 'qualified politicians.' That's not an actual good thing bro.


It's like saying you hired Bernie Madoff to be your financial advisor, because, "He's got experience! Cant teach that!"

Hillary doesnt care about doing what's best for America. That should be your first criteria, and for those whom it is, she is disqualified immediately.

[Akrazotile]

You people need to get a grip. I'm not her biggest fan, but jesus christ. She's been raked over the coals for 2 straight years and pretty much nothing has come of it. She's no different than any other career politician working in our fundraising system.


You were, until the other lefties started calling her out. Now youre playing the fence trying to figure out how best to align yourself to fit in with the sjw crowd.

You have zero opinions of your own. Youre scrambling to keep up with the SJW crowd and not be left out again as the misfit you were all through adolescence. You are the ultimate fit-in/compensator.

[nathanjizzle]

because shes my homie that will continue driving my liberal agenda. I would fucc her too if i could.

[Kblaze8855]

If we are talking the kind of people you would build if you could sculpt a president from scratch....the most qualified president of my life was the first Bush.

This guy is a legit war hero, graduated from Yale with an economics degree, did a lot of the heavy lifting to make himself rich(his father helped but he had success), was a congressman and chairman of the RNC, ambassador to the UN and director of the CIA....all before being vice president for 8 years. You cant get more qualified to be president. Military background, intelligent, successful businessman, legislative and executive experience, with time spent dealing with international diplomacy and running the CIA? Sounds like a dream candidate.

But....people were hardly enthusiastic. He fought like hell to stop Reagan but couldnt....then fell in line and won off being the heir apparent before being kicked out because Clinton played the sax on Arsenio and everyone loved him. Hed probably lose an election to his own son if they went at it in their primes and Bush Jr isnt half the man his father was.

Qualified candidates dont always produce enthusiasm or make people like them. Gore never figured that out and Kerry didnt either. Mccain had some of it but he ****ed himself with Palin. He was one of the only republicans I felt I could vote for before her. Just felt too irresponsible from him to have that woman so close to running the country.

Clinton is miles more qualified than Trump....was more qualified than Obama...id say of the major contenders lately shes right behind Mccain far as the kind of background, personality, and experience id be looking for out of someone to run a country.

That doesnt mean shes likable. In the end.....people have to want you to be their president.

I dont want her to be president. But Trump? That it even got this far is shameful. Shes gonna win. And thats fine considering the alternative. But I dont have to be enthusiastic about it.

[Jameerthefear]

Seriously though the Dems need to clear house and get some new, young people in there. Tired of all these old f*cks. At least the Republicans tried with Cruz and Rubio, though they both kind of sucked

[Kblaze8855]

It's like saying you hired Bernie Madoff to be your financial advisor, because, "He's got experience! Cant teach that!"

He went from cutting grass to having 17 billion dollars. I suspect he has more useful information than most. Being a crook doesnt make him incompetent.

[BigBoss]

What's her appeal? Someone please logically explain it without referencing Trump please.

Bill Clinton. He left the Presidency with the country in an economic surplus. They are hoping for that again.

[Akrazotile]

He went from cutting grass to having 17 billion dollars. I suspect he has more useful information than most. Being a crook doesnt make him incompetent.


:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:



Yeah, he's a brilliant scam artist.

And you would hire him to manage YOUR savings, based on that?? :wtf:

[Kblaze8855]

As I said...being a crook doesnt make him stupid. You flip 5,000 dollars, a landscaping job, and a small business loan to 17 billion I wont assume youre incompetent either. He got locked up at 70 something. You build an empire like that and get away with it for that long? You have some guile about you.

[Akrazotile]

As I said...being a crook doesnt make him stupid. You flip 5,000 dollars, a landscaping job, and a small business loan to 17 billion I wont assume youre incompetent either. He got locked up at 70 something. You build an empire like that and get away with it for that long? You have some guile about you.


So YOU WOULD TRUST HIM with YOUR savings?

That's all I wanna know.

[Facepalm]

Seriously though the Dems need to clear house and get some new, young people in there. Tired of all these old f*cks. At least the Republicans tried with Cruz and Rubio, though they both kind of sucked


Cruz is pretty dangerous. In some ways he's worse than Trump. He's also almost as punchable.

[Facepalm]

Hillary has experience. Experience at doing a shit job and ****ing up and letting Americans get slaughtered in Benghazi.

http://static.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Poster_Terrorist-Attacks-Bush_Deaths-at-Embassy-Consulates_List_zps6c5a5a5e.jpg


Where was your outrage back then?

[Duderonomy]

you arent the only person who feels that way OP.

the decision to throw the entire democrat establishment weight behind a corrupt warmongering corporate puppet like Hillary is going to come back to haunt the democrats for years to come.
You are right.

John Stewart

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_gIWAaQVI

Louis Farrakhan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cu41CPQw0hg

Cornel West
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72-dEItC1pk

[Akrazotile]

You are right.

John Stewart

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_gIWAaQVI

Louis Farrakhan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cu41CPQw0hg

Cornel West
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72-dEItC1pk


OP gets his opinions from these people :roll:


They (and consequently he) happens to be right about "Hilary" in this instance, but still......


:roll:

[Xoush]

because shes my homie that will continue driving my liberal agenda. I would fucc her too if i could.
:biggums::biggums::biggums::biggums:

[Duderonomy]

OP gets his opinions from these people :roll:


They (and consequently he) happens to be right about "Hilary" in this instance, but still......


:roll:

No these are impressions across the board.

Stewart has interviewed Hilary and said she isn't authentic.

Farrakhan said don't vote for him just because you like Obama .

West is pointing out how corrupt she is and how the MSM doesn't keep it 100%.

[Jasper]

I lean left on 70% of the issues but I find it appalling Hilary is the nomination. Her criminal behavior should be frowned upon and she should be a pariah in those circles. Instead they praise her for playing the political"finance" game so well. Never saying no to any special interest and spending hundreds of millions because she is so unlikable and couldn't get any vote without constant paid for press. As much as it pains me I'm going to vote for Trump. Clean it up In 2020 DNC.
Hillary a criminal :confusedshrug:
Last time I read she is running for President.
Don't worry OP , if she doesn't pick Sanders as a running mate , she watch Trump run the country.

We aren't voting for a garbage man OP ... Hillary is a lawyer, and Trump a real estate tycoon. Both very intelligent.
It's our government that is broken , not the people that are in it.

[NumberSix]

http://static.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Poster_Terrorist-Attacks-Bush_Deaths-at-Embassy-Consulates_List_zps6c5a5a5e.jpg


Where was your outrage back then?
Did Bush lie about it being caused by YouTube videos because he didn't want to hurt his reelection and accuse the family members of the dead of being liars?

[Duderonomy]

Did I not call it? The release of Clinton Cash documentary and the wikilinks DNC hacks confirmed things were as (if not more corrupt ) than we thought. Bernie fed his followers a bunch of mountain dew and now wants them to go to bed. Good luck get them to fall inline much less mods and Independences to vote for Hilary :roll: :oldlol:

I thought the Republican party would fall first. But still I called this months ago. Tear it down to build it back up. Will we see a true Democratic party election in 2020 with more transparency will yet to be determined.

#pray4Dondadda

[Nanners]

Did I not call it? The release of Clinton Cash documentary and the wikilinks DNC hacks confirmed things were as (if not more corrupt ) than we thought. Bernie fed his followers a bunch of mountain dew and now wants them to go to bed. Good luck get them to fall inline much less mods and Independences to vote for Hilary :roll: :oldlol:

I thought the Republican party would fall first. But still I called this months ago. Tear it down to build it back up. Will we see a true Democratic party election in 2020 with more transparency will yet to be determined.

#pray4Dondadda

this thread is only 24 days old tho :confusedshrug:

[Duderonomy]

Atleast I wasn't a sheep like *cough (Dondadda) and disavowed Criminal Hillary before it hurt my credibility.

Don't Hillary supporters feel any shame?

And Left leaning voters have you ever considered if Hillary loses this year. Cory Booker can run in 2020. Wouldn't he represent the Democratic party better ?

[ILLsmak]

It's like saying you hired Bernie Madoff to be your financial advisor, because, "He's got experience! Cant teach that!"



Made me laugh the first time, time to revisit.

-Smak

[BarberSchool]

As a dual wing extremist who tends to favor democratic socialism domestically in labor and social issues, but who is staunchly pro-2a, and against fiat currency and privately owned central banks, I find both of these candidates completely and totally repulsive. As well as bernie's beating and subsequent "i'mWithher" bullsh!t. Jill Stein seems nice and all but my #1girl spoke with her personally at the convention in philly and walked away very underwhelmed.

F#@k mainstream corporate owned politics on ALL(not both) sides.

#F#@kingNader2016

[TheMan]

Both candidates suck, real talk.

But IN MY OPINION, Trump is wholly unfit to be leader of the world's biggest superpower.

It's that simple.

I would've considered the GOP candidate over Hillary but Trump??? GMAB. :facepalm

He's so bad, Clinton is going to easily win on Nov 8, something that she didn't deserve because she's a very flawed candidate as well.

[Duderonomy]

Both candidates suck, real talk.

But IN MY OPINION, Trump is wholly unfit to be leader of the world's biggest superpower.

It's that simple.

I would've considered the GOP candidate over Hillary but Trump??? GMAB. :facepalm

He's so bad, Clinton is going to easily win on Nov 8, something that she didn't deserve because she's a very flawed candidate as well.
Trump is alot better than your average GOPer . He is the American dream look at his wife and beautiful daughter, he says what he feels like and isn't afraid to go after the establishment. Yeah he says dumb sh** sometimes but we can't all pick our heroes. The Bible has all types of assholes who benefitted their people or did the will of God.
Here in 2016 , it is no different.

[NumberSix]

Both candidates suck, real talk.

But IN MY OPINION, Trump is wholly unfit to be leader of the world's biggest superpower.

It's that simple.

I would've considered the GOP candidate over Hillary but Trump??? GMAB. :facepalm

He's so bad, Clinton is going to easily win on Nov 8, something that she didn't deserve because she's a very flawed candidate as well.
Crooked Hillary should be in prison, but the rigged system is protecting her. Sad!

[BarberSchool]

Both candidates suck, real talk.

But IN MY OPINION, Trump is wholly unfit to be leader of the world's biggest superpower.

It's that simple.This is crazy for me to say since most politicians I have voted for in my first few cycles have been liberals/socialists, but I think once we look into details of how wholly corrupt and war mongering the Clintons have been, I think Hilary is actually more unfit than Trump.

Bare with me,

Trump is a sexist, racist, blowhard who is used to using inherited wealth as leverage in business, which isn't particularly redeemable or skilled. He has promised to enact policies which will be biased against muslims and latinos and as someone who is themselves mixed, with entire sides of my family which are muslim, black, and latino (no asian tho sorry half of ish), I should just OFF GP reject the idea of a trump presidency.

But more than likely none of those racist bits of policy would be enacted, since the house and seante will neuter Trump and pence, much to the dismay of the low info right wing base which thought this red meat was real.

What else he has promised, and was the first to do so against the advice of all advisors.... was to be against the TPP. And since he wants 300-some new aircraft carriers in the water, to enforce new trade agreements, I tend to believe this is something where he could get some traction in the house especially. It would benefit many lower income and middle income families to abort TPP, and renegotiate NAFTA. So thats a positive.

Trump was also against the Iraq War from the beginning, and against invading syria. Hilary took part in starting both wars.

So Hilary actually has a much more hawkish, REPUBLICAN, pro-military-industrial-complex war record than Trump would have. Shocking that in this election the democrat is the pro-war one. But such is the case. Even harder to believe when the republican "seems like the type" to be pro-war.

Hilary has so much blood on her hands from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. She is a monster, serving her own interests, not the peoples'.

Both of these candidates are unfit. But as a socially liberal voter, who thinks much in line with what one thinks of as "Scandinavian socialism", I think trump is actually slightly less unfit than hilary, for the US presidency in 2016, given the global economic and military climate.

But ideally, Bernie would in charge of domestic social policy, Nader in charge of all consumer and economic policy, Pat Buchanan as secretary of the treasury, and Jim Webb as secretary of defense, thats where my team would start.

F#@K the whole system. It badly needs a reboot and to have money removed from the equation.

[TommyGriffin]

Atleast I wasn't a sheep like *cough (Dondadda) and disavowed Criminal Hillary before it hurt my credibility.

Don't Hillary supporters feel any shame?

And Left leaning voters have you ever considered if Hillary loses this year. Cory Booker can run in 2020. Wouldn't he represent the Democratic party better ?
Duderonomy, this is embarrassing, you are acting like a naive young child. Every politician in Capitol Hill is a criminal. Every single one. Hilary just has been doing it longer so she is deeper in the thick of things. No one has more experience than her and after these new leaks it looks like no one has more balls than her either.

[NumberSix]

This is crazy for me to say since most politicians I have voted for in my first few cycles have been liberals/socialists, but I think once we look into details of how wholly corrupt and war mongering the Clintons have been, I think Hilary is actually more unfit than Trump.

Bare with me,

Trump is a sexist, racist...
How?

[Akrazotile]

As a dual wing extremist who tends to favor democratic socialism domestically in labor and social issues, but who is staunchly pro-2a, and against fiat currency and privately owned central banks, I find both of these candidates completely and totally repulsive. As well as bernie's beating and subsequent "i'mWithher" bullsh!t. Jill Stein seems nice and all but my #1girl spoke with her personally at the convention in philly and walked away very underwhelmed.

F#@k mainstream corporate owned politics on ALL(not both) sides.

#F#@kingNader2016


I empathize with ya and I think Nader is a good candidate. But just voting for Nader, or for anyone, simply isnt enough. We are stuck in a consumer cycle where sustaining our lifestyle means financially supporting interests that go against ours.

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A couple people have taken the chance, taken the bold step and to my knowledge have been very pleased. Im gonna try to keep it movin, keep pushin it forward. Im all-in on it because Ive analyzed it very closely and this is the approach wherein I believe the mechanism for change lies.

Check it out if ya want to:

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[Akrazotile]

Lol @ some cornball mod deleting my shit.

Ban me instead. Cause Im gonna keep posting what I feel is important.

[Duderonomy]

Duderonomy, this is embarrassing, you are acting like a naive young child. Every politician in Capitol Hill is a criminal. Every single one. Hilary just has been doing it longer so she is deeper in the thick of things. No one has more experience than her and after these new leaks it looks like no one has more balls than her either.
She's the biggest criminal politician by far ever . Only Mitch McConnell on the Republican side is close but his net worth is only $20 mil he would be a mid-level boss. Dick Chaney is up there too was his war mongering.

One thing I detest is her lack of core beliefs her actions make her a Neo-liberal , then she supports Neo-con foreign policies (which Bill avoided btw) Then she tell voters she will enforce Socialist policies. Which is it ? She's a elite, corrupt puppet nothing more.

[TommyGriffin]

She's the biggest criminal politician by far ever . Only Mitch McConnell on the Republican side is close but his net worth is only $20 mil he would be a mid-level boss. Dick Chaney is up there too was his war mongering.

One thing I detest is her lack of core beliefs her actions make her a Neo-liberal , then she supports Neo-con foreign policies (which Bill avoided btw) Then she tell voters she will enforce Socialist policies. Which is it ? She's a elite, corrupt puppet nothing more.
No she is not. You can also label Trump an elite corporate puppet. Except he has little to no experience and a penchant for hate speech.

[poido123]

As a democrat, I am proud to support a candidate who promotes white guilt and sells America out to the highest bidder. I don't care for equality in the voting system, if it means my Hilldawg gets in.


What I like about Hillary is her clean bill of health and her lovable personality. I always thought her head wobbles were cute, never a bad thing. I always wondered why people dislike her, always throwing those wikileak accusations like they mean anything.



I have a dream. This is the America for me. Nationalism is for losers.

[dude77]

As a democrat, I am proud to support a candidate who promotes white guilt and sells America out to the highest bidder. I don't care for equality in the voting system, if it means my Hilldawg gets in.


What I like about Hillary is her clean bill of health and her lovable personality. I always thought her head wobbles were cute, never a bad thing. I always wondered why people dislike her, always throwing those wikileak accusations like they mean anything.



I have a dream. This is the America for me. Nationalism is for losers.



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[TheMan]

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Lol

Poido can't even vote. He's never even been in the US.

So his opinion basically has the same weight as some illiterate Chinese peasant who can't point out the US on a map. :oldlol:

[poido123]

Lol

Poido can't even vote. He's never even been in the US.

So his opinion basically has the same weight as some illiterate Chinese peasant who can't point out the US on a map. :oldlol:


If I can convince one person here to vote Trump, then my opinion holds weight.

If I can convince more than one person to vote Trump, then we are talking Chinese peasant on superhuman alltime greatest level shit right there.


My point is, I'm fighting for the good guys. This isn't just about the political outcome, there is far more at stake than that.

[TheMan]

If I can convince one person here to vote Trump, then my opinion holds weight.

If I can convince more than one person to vote Trump, then we are talking Chinese peasant on superhuman alltime greatest level shit right there.


My point is, I'm fighting for the good guys. This isn't just about the political outcome, there is far more at stake than that.
Poids, you never convinced even one LBJ stan that he isn't on MJ's level...

Now you gonna convince someone here to vote your way? Riiiiight

:kobe:

[TommyGriffin]

Poids, you never convinced even one LBJ stan that he isn't on MJ's level...

Now you gonna convince someone here to vote your way? Riiiiight

:kobe:
Pretty soon Poido123 is going to have to convince Home Land Security that he is not a threat to America.

[senelcoolidge]

Yeah, Hillary is either senile or a stone cold liar. We already know she's corrupt. In any sensible not corrupt system she would easily be disqualified. It's crazy that people this woman. People are worried about the way Trump speaks which is means nothing when Hillary truly is a corrupt individual.

[poido123]

Pretty soon Poido123 is going to have to convince Home Land Security that he is not a threat to America.


:coleman:


Keep wasting your energy posting that nonsense. I do not care

[TommyGriffin]

:coleman:


Keep wasting your energy posting that nonsense. I do not care
Enjoy the waterboarding. :cheers:

[poido123]

Enjoy the waterboarding. :cheers:


Enjoy sucking at life you loser :cheers:

[Nick Young]

great thread.:cheers:

[Kblaze8855]

It is just not looking likely she loses. Trump is losing ground in places republicans arent even supposed to have to consider. utah? UTAH? Aside from LBJ Utah went red every vote since like....world war 2. Trump lost so many voters a third party guy nobody ever heard of jumped up to 22%. I kinda want to ask this morman who works under me what he thinks. I know his family was voting for trump...perhaps not now.

Hes finally behind in the one poll hes been leading for months. The LA one that always goes trump because it doesnt change who it asks and it takes a rolling average of a weeks responses so big news has time to settle down before it alters results in a major way. They ask the same 3000 people every time and have had Trump up by as much as like 5-6. Now hes down....meaning actual Trump voters changed their minds. Which I never saw coming. I just figured he would keep his core voters and lose everyone else.

Way its going? Someone better drop a video of Clinton going Strom Thurmond pretty damn fast. Short of that its a wrap.

He cant afford to lose even one other swing state if he doesnt get Florida. And hes down in most of them.

Some of these pro trump people are setting themselves up for such a massive reality check barring some unpredictable events in the next 3 weeks.....

[Kblaze8855]

Go read some of the Utah resident comments on their news sites. Mormons are not ****ing around after that video:



The Utah Republican Party has officially restated their support for Donald Trump this week, following the "revelation" that he is an immoral, predatory person (something that should have been widely known by anyone with their eyes open long before last weekend--cue Mitt Romney's speech for example). Clearly, the Utah GOP no longer represents me or my values.

The election is lost to Hillary. All we can do is send messages now. Let's vote for McMullin in Utah and send a message our own Utah GOP by unaffiliating with them. They are clearly out of tune with the majority of Utah voters.


Some stories have hundreds of comments on protest votes for Mcmullin...who is a Utah conservative who ran as an independent. Hes close enough to actually win the state.

Any name but Clinton and Trump who pops up on election night and forces them to put 3 colors on the map is an overnight superstar. And hes a republican. This might be the start of a 2020 presidential campaign. He doesnt look like a president though. We all know its an issue. It shouldnt be...but it is.

[Micku]

It is just not looking likely she loses. Trump is losing ground in places republicans arent even supposed to have to consider. utah? UTAH? Aside from LBJ Utah went red every vote since like....world war 2. Trump lost so many voters a third party guy nobody ever heard of jumped up to 22%. I kinda want to ask this morman who works under me what he thinks. I know his family was voting for trump...perhaps not now.

Hes finally behind in the one poll hes been leading for months. The LA one that always goes trump because it doesnt change who it asks and it takes a rolling average of a weeks responses so big news has time to settle down before it alters results in a major way. They ask the same 3000 people every time and have had Trump up by as much as like 5-6. Now hes down....meaning actual Trump voters changed their minds. Which I never saw coming. I just figured he would keep his core voters and lose everyone else.

Way its going? Someone better drop a video of Clinton going Strom Thurmond pretty damn fast. Short of that its a wrap.

He cant afford to lose even one other swing state if he doesnt get Florida. And hes down in most of them.

Some of these pro trump people are setting themselves up for such a massive reality check barring some unpredictable events in the next 3 weeks.....

Pretty much. Trump is looking down for the count. The recent wikileaks aren't really doing anything to Clinton so far, even tho some are damaging. I wonder if it would have been more damaging if it was in the primaries.

Trump is losing ground. He is losing AZ now, isn't he? It's amazing he is tied in Utah. And he was only up by 4 or 5 points in Georgia. And they haven't done polling there after the debates and the leaks came out.

Meanwhile Clinton is adding on her national lead. And since Trump is calling out some GOPs, this may cause Trump supporters to not vote for the establishment this election. He may bring the whole party down and give the seats to the democrats unintentionally.

To stay somewhat competitive, he has to take FL and not lose anymore states. He has to regain momentum and take MN, NC, OH and get back/win AZ.

I don't see it happening tho. Not the way things are going and the GOP being split and ppl are unendorsing him.

[senelcoolidge]

Hillary is corrupt and slimy we all know this. But she is bashing bernie supporters, regular working class people, people of faith, and others and people will still blindly vote for her. It's crazy. By now you'd think people would catch on that politicians are not there for the citizenry's best interest. Hillary's been around for a long time and her record is hot garbage.

[Kblaze8855]

Pretty much. Trump is looking down for the count. The recent wikileaks aren't really doing anything to Clinton so far, even tho some are damaging. I wonder if it would have been more damaging if it was in the primaries.

Trump is losing ground. He is losing AZ now, isn't he? It's amazing he is tied in Utah. And he was only up by 4 or 5 points in Georgia. And they haven't done polling there after the debates and the leaks came out.

Meanwhile Clinton is adding on her national lead. And since Trump is calling out some GOPs, this may cause Trump supporters to not vote for the establishment this election. He may bring the whole party down and give the seats to the democrats unintentionally.

To stay somewhat competitive, he has to take FL and not lose anymore states. He has to regain momentum and take MN, NC, OH and get back/win AZ.

I don't see it happening tho. Not the way things are going and the GOP being split and ppl are unendorsing him.


Give him Florida...Ohio...Arizona...Utah...Colorado...and Iowa...he still loses 279-259. He needs a lot....