Jordan had many game-winning plays in Finals, so he never faced 7th game

[3ball]

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Game-winning Plays



1997 Finals



1) Hit game-winner in Game 1
2) Hit game-winner in Game 5
3) Series-winning assist in Game 6




1998 Finals



1) Scored to pull within 1, got steal, and hit game-winner, all in the last minute of Game 6




Game-tying plays:



1991 Finals



1) Hit game-tying shot in critical Game 3 to send Game into OT, where he dominated both ends (held Magic to zero points) while Pippen was on the bench.




1998 Finals



1) Game-tying assist to Longley in Game 1, to send game into OT




Scoring every point 4th quarter of closeout game:



1993 Finals



1) Scored every point in final quarter of Game 6, before getting hockey-hockey assist to Kerr




Overall 4th quarter dominance:




...............PERCENTAGE OF TEAM PTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER ON FLOOR


........................RS......RS 4th.... PO.....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <---- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

LEBRON 2012... 34.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 33.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 34.5 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 34.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 30.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 33.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
LEBRON 2013... 32.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 32.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 30.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 39.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
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[Ben Simmons]

Lebron beat a 73 win team.

He's the GOAT until Jordan beats a team on that level.

[FKAri]

So Jordan won every playoff series he ever played in within 6 games?

That's why he's the GOAT :applause:

[jstern]

I've been thinking about something similar for the past week. Thinking about the games 7, like Laker's Celtics, Cavs, etc. That a missed shot here, a made shot over there, and those rings could have won a different way. The winners getting placed in higher regards, even though they would be the same player had they lost. But Jordan had never been in such a position where it could have easily gone the other way, because they always won in 6 or under. Erasing any such possible uncertainty.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lebron beat a 73 win team.

He's the GOAT until Jordan beats a team on that level.
A fraud 73 win team that had major flaws.

If Durant knocked them out in the number of chances he had ... Would he be considered better than Michael or LeBron ever were using this stupid ass theory?

Anyway, I'm glad LeBron and Kyrie snuffed them out.

[bigkingsfan]

He lost to the same team three straight times...

[ClipperRevival]

No one imposed his will on the game better than MJ in the finals. It was just amazing to see him do it over and over again.

1991 - His most complete finals ever on GOAT level efficiency.
1992 - Destroyed the notion that Drexler was on his level and scored 35 points in the 1st half of game 1 to set the tone.
1993 - 41.0 ppg on 51%. Bulls needed almost every bit of those points. If he has a 2015 Bron type finals, Bulls lose for sure.
1996 - Great during the first 3 games, when the series was still in doubt.
1997 - His most clutch finals ever. Game 1 winner. Game 5 flu game.
1998 - 45 points and the GOAT last minute sequence to seal the deal in game 6. If Bulls lose, game 7 is in Utah.

If these kids saw all of that with their own eyes, they would just know the deal.

[SamuraiSWISH]

No one imposed his will on the game better than MJ in the finals. It was just amazing to see him do it over and over again.

1991 - His most complete finals ever on GOAT level efficiency.
1992 - Destroyed the notion that Drexler was on his level and scored 35 points in the 1st half of game 1 to set the tone.
1993 - 41.0 ppg on 51%. Bulls needed almost every bit of those points. If he has a 2015 Bron type finals, Bulls lose for sure.
1996 - Great during the first 3 games, when the series was still in doubt.
1997 - His most clutch finals ever. Game 1 winner. Game 5 flu game.
1998 - 45 points and the GOAT last minute sequence to seal the deal in game 6. If Bulls lose, game 7 is in Utah.

If these kids saw all of that with their own eyes, they would just know the deal.
:applause:

So true. And to the bold ... Would've been without Scottie.

Who even through out game 6 was barely on the floor and a shell of himself when he was out there, with a really crippling back injury. One of the things that Mike said added to his sense of urgency.

[ClipperRevival]

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Game-winning Plays



1997 Finals



1) Hit game-winner in Game 1
2) Hit game-winner in Game 5
3) Series-winning assist in Game 6




1998 Finals



1) Scored to pull within 1, got steal, and hit game-winner, all in the last minute of Game 6




Game-tying plays:



1991 Finals



1) Hit game-tying shot in critical Game 3 to send Game into OT, where he dominated both ends (held Magic to zero points) while Pippen was on the bench.




1998 Finals



1) Game-tying assist to Longley in Game 1, to send game into OT




Scoring every point 4th quarter of closeout game:



1993 Finals



1) Scored every point in final quarter of Game 6, before getting hockey-hockey assist to Kerr




Overall 4th quarter dominance:




...............PERCENTAGE OF TEAM PTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER ON FLOOR


........................RS......RS 4th.... PO.....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <---- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

LEBRON 2012... 34.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 33.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 34.5 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 34.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 30.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 33.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
LEBRON 2013... 32.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 32.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 30.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 39.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
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Alpha dog scoring against set defenses in half court settings with the added physicality of the playoffs, especially the finals is THE most premium asset in basketball.

MJ averaged almost 7 more ppg than Bron on better efficiency. That is a huge disparity. That's a tier above and Bron is a top 5 player all time.

[ClipperRevival]

:applause:

So true. And to the bold ... Would've been without Scottie.

Who even through out game 6 was barely on the floor and a shell of himself when he was out there, with a really crippling back injury. One of the things that Mike said added to his sense of urgency.

Let's not bash Pip. Not like he had the worst game 7 EVER for a star in 1990. 2 points on 1-10 shooting in his migrain game. If Pip just plays his normal level, MJ probably has 7 rings.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Let's not bash Pip. Not like he had the worst game 7 EVER for a star in 1990. 2 points on 1-10 shooting in his migrain game. If Pip just plays his normal level, MJ probably has 7 rings.
8 or 9 if he doesn't retire the first time. And one more in 1999 if Krause wasn't an egotistical fat moron?

:biggums:

[Hey Yo]

No one imposed his will on the game better than MJ in the finals. It was just amazing to see him do it over and over again.

1991 - His most complete finals ever on GOAT level efficiency.
1992 - Destroyed the notion that Drexler was on his level and scored 35 points in the 1st half of game 1 to set the tone.
1993 - 41.0 ppg on 51%. Bulls needed almost every bit of those points. If he has a 2015 Bron type finals, Bulls lose for sure.
1996 - Great during the first 3 games, when the series was still in doubt.
1997 - His most clutch finals ever. Game 1 winner. Game 5 flu game.
1998 - 45 points and the GOAT last minute sequence to seal the deal in game 6. If Bulls lose, game 7 is in Utah.

If these kids saw all of that with their own eyes, they would just know the deal.
36-13-9...the Bulls lose for sure.....:oldlol:

MJ with 27-5-4 on 41.5% ...if he puts up those numbers in the 2012, 13, 14, 15 and 16, Finals...he loses every time.

[ClipperRevival]

36-13-9...the Bulls lose for sure.....:oldlol:

MJ with 27-5-4 on 41.5% ...if he puts up those numbers in the 2012, 13, 14, 15 and 16, Finals...he loses every time.

Damn son, you are making this too easy.

Both MJ and Bron attempted 33 fg per game in 1993 and 2015. The similarities end there.

MJ - 41.0 ppg on 51% with double/triple teams

LeBron - 36 ppg on 39% with single coverage

If MJ had saw the single coverage LeBron did, he would've went ape sh't. No goat level scorer has ever been so disrespected like Bron in 2015. He should've dominated but his iso game was terrible.

As for 1996. MJ in his first 3 games, when the series was still in doubt.

31.0 ppg, 46%, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 2.0 apg

After going up 3-0, he let up a bit. And this was by far his worst finals.

Thanks for playing.

[MP.Trey]

Replace Jordan with Paxson/Kerr and you're right.

[Bankaii]

A fraud 73 win team that had major flaws.

If Durant knocked them out in the number of chances he had ... Would he be considered better than Michael or LeBron ever were using this stupid ass theory?

Anyway, I'm glad LeBron and Kyrie snuffed them out.
You can't fraud your way to 73 wins dumbass:roll:

[Bankaii]

Damn son, you are making this too easy.

Both MJ and Bron attempted 33 fg per game in 1993 and 2015. The similarities end there.

MJ - 41.0 ppg on 51% with double/triple teams

LeBron - 36 ppg on 39% with single coverage

If MJ had saw the single coverage LeBron did, he would've went ape sh't. No goat level scorer has ever been so disrespected like Bron in 2015. He should've dominated but his iso game was terrible.

As for 1996. MJ in his first 3 games, when the series was still in doubt.

31.0 ppg, 46%, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 2.0 apg

After going up 3-0, he let up a bit. And this was by far his worst finals.

Thanks for playing.
Funny how you can round 50.8 to 51%, but not 39.8 to 40%. I guess every little bit matter huh:oldlol:

Straight up lying about defensive coverage, and saying MJ "let up" because he started choking.

You're so delusional.

[icewill36]

Jordan always had the better team, and was always the favorite

[3ball]

Jordan was always the favorite in the Finals


Anyone who watched at the time knows Jordan was an underdog in 1991 - NBA.com documented the Bulls' underdog status in their history archive:



....the Bulls were considered big underdogs to the Lakers in the Finals and the vast majority of media "experts" predicted an easy Lakers' victory.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/history/20anniversary_199091.html/


Jordan was an underdog in 1998 too - everyone thought Utah would win because they had home court and they had swept Shaq's 4-all-star Lakers and Popovich/Duncan's 56-win Spurs... Whereas the Bulls had barely beaten Indiana in 7 games..





Jordan always had the better team


Jordan was the biggest reason the Bulls "always had the better team", so that argument doesn't work.





Jordan always had the better team



Here's a comparison of the 1991 Lakers and Bulls without Magic/Worthy and MJ/Pippen:


.........................RS and Finals......................................RS and Finals

Sam Perkins........14/7 and 17/8 ...........Horace Grant.......13/8 and 15/8

Vlade Divac ........11/8 and 18/9............ John Paxson........ 9/2 and 13/2

AC Green............. 9/6 and 6/6.............. Cartwright.......... 9/5 and 9/6

Byron Scott......... 15/4 and 6/3............. Armstrong........... 9/3 and 2/1


Magic clearly had a more talented supporting cast, IN ADDITION to his massive experience advantage, which is why he was favored..

People viewed Jordan as the newcomer who would lose a few times before he beat the experienced Magic, just like he did to the Pistons.. Jordan was viewed as not ready for that 3 am phone call (i.e. the biggest stage).






Jordan always had the better team


Here's a list of the Bulls' players from 1993, excluding MJ:


.....................PPG.......MPG

Pippen............18.6...... 38.6
Grant.............13.2....... 35.6
Armstrong.......12.3.......30.4
Cartwright........5.6....... 19.9
S Williams........5.9........19.3
Paxson............ 4.2........17.5
R McCray......... 3.5........15.9
S King............. 5.4....... 13.9
W Perdue......... 4.7........13.9
T Tucker.......... 5.2........13.2
D Walker......... 2.6........13.1


Pippen, Grant, and Armstrong were the only players who played more than 20 MPG and averaged over 6 PPG.. The #4 thru #12 guys all played LESS than 20 mpg and averaged less than 6 ppg, which means the Bulls had one of the worst rosters in the league from the #4 thru 12 spots.

Compare that roster to the 1992 Blazers, who had 5 all-stars: Terry Porter (91, 93), Duckworth (89, 91), Drexler (many years), Cliff Robinson (94), Buck Williams (82, 83, 86 and all-defensive 88, 90, 91, 92).

The 93 Suns also had far more talent with 4 all-stars - Majerle (92, 93, 95), KJ, Barkley, Chambers (87, 89, 90, 91), and a rising star (Dumas).





Jordan always had the better team


In addition to the teams shown above (Lakers, Blazers, Suns), there were plenty of other teams with more talent than the Bulls - Shaq/Penny/Horace/Nick Anderson, Anthony Bowie and Donald Royal were more talented, but the Bulls swept that team in 1996 when Jordan was back for his first full season..

The 96 Sonics had a legit Big 3 of perennial all-stars in Payton, Kemp and Schrempf, as well as sharp-shooter Hersey Hawkins and two-way player McMillan.. Also, the Knicks were always deeper, and so were the 1991 Pistons and aforementioned Lakers.
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[FKAri]

Anyone who watched at the time knows Jordan was an underdog in 1991 - NBA.com documented the Bulls' underdog status in their history archive:

straight up lying


....the Bulls were considered big underdogs to the Lakers in the Finals and the vast majority of media "experts" predicted an easy Lakers' victory.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/history/20anniversary_199091.html/

straight up lying

Jordan was an underdog in 1998 too - everyone thought Utah would win because they had homstraight up lying
e court and they had swept Shaq's 4-all-star Lakers and Popovich/Duncan's 56-win Spurs... Whereas the Bulls had barely beaten Indiana in 7 games..



Jordan was the biggest rstraight up lying
eason the Bulls "always had the better team", so that argument doesn't work.




Here's a costraight up lying
mparison of the 1991 Lakers and Bulls without Magic/Worthy and MJ/Pippen:


.........................RS and Finals......................................RS and Finals

Sam Perkins........14/7 and 17/8 ...........Horace Grant.......13/8 and 15/8

Vlade Divac ........11/8 and 18/9............ John Paxson........[/COLORstraight up lying
] 9/2 and 13/2

AC Green............. 9/6 and 6/6[COLOstraight up lying
R="White"].............. Cartwright.......... 9/5 and 9/6

Byron Scott......... 15/4 and 6/3............. Armstrong........... 9/3 and 2/1


Magic clearly had a mstraight up lying
ore talented supporting cast, IN ADDITION to his massive experience advantage, which is why he was favored..

People viewed Jordan as the newcomer who would lose a few times before he beat the experienced Magic,straight up lying
just like he did to the Pistons.. Jordan was viewed as not ready for that 3 am phone call (i.e. the biggest stage).




Here's a list of the Bulls' players from 1993, excluding MJ:


.....................PPG.......MPG

Pippen............18.6...... 38.6
Grant.............13.2....... 35.6
Armstrong.......12.3.......30.4
Cartwright.....straight up lying
...5.6....... 19.9
S Williams........5.9........19.3
Paxson............ 4.2........17straight up lying
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R McCray......... 3.5........15.9
S King........straight up lying
..... 5.4....... 13.9
W Perdue......... 4.7........13.9
T Tucker.......... 5.2........13.2
D Walker......... 2.6........13.1


Pippen, Grant, and Armstrong were the only players who played more than 20 MPG and averaged over 6 PPG.. The #4 thru #12 guys all played LESS than 20 mpg and averaged less than 6 ppg, which means the Bulls had one of the worst rosters in the league from the #4 thru 12 spots.

Compare that roster to the 1992 Blazers, who had 5 all-stars: Terry Porter (91, 93), Duckworth (89, 91), Drexler (many years), Cliff Robinson (94), Buck Williams (82, 83, 86 and all-defensive 88, 90, 91, 92).

The 93 Suns also had far more talent with 4 all-stars - Majerle (92, 93, 95), KJ, Barkley, Chambers (87, 89, 90, 91), and a rising star (Dumas).



In addition to the teams shown above (Lakers, Blazers, Suns), there were plentystraight up lying
of other teams with more talent than the Bulls - Shaq/Penny/Horace/Nick Andersostraight up lying
n, Anthony Bowie and Donald Royal were mstraight up lying
ore talented, but the Bulls swept that team in 1996 when Jordan was back for his first full season..

The 96 Sonics had a legit Big 3 of perennial all-stars in Payton, Kemp and Schrempf, as well astraight up lying
s sharp-shooter Hersey Hawkins and two-way player McMillan.. Also, the Knicks were always deeper, and so were the 1991 Pistons and aforementioned Lakers.
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[3ball]

Straight up lying about defensive coverage



Lebron was double-teamed a total of 18 times the entire 2015 Finals:



"Curry’s ability to guard one-on-one allowed the Warriors’ wing defenders to double-team LeBron James effectively. When James was double-teamed, the Cavaliers scored 5 points on 2-of-18 shooting (11 percent)".

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106718/iguodala-heads-all-playoff-defensive-team


Otoh, during the Bulls-Pistons series in the 80's, Jordan was often doubled every time he touched the ball.. Here's an example from Game 6 of 1989 ECF, starting at the 9 minute mark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4W_0I82B18&t=1h21m11s) - MJ is double-teamed 10 of 13 times he touched the ball to finish out the game.. The 3 times he didn't get doubled were because he shot the ball immediately - here's all 10 double-teams shown in gifs:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11703590&postcount=88


So it isn't a lie - Jordan was double-teamed incessantly - literally 10+ times in a quarter - while Lebron was rarely doubled, not even 3 times per game.. Btw, there's more examples of teams double-teaming Jordan on every-possession, found here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386210).






Straight up lying about defensive coverage



PACE was equal or slower during Jordan's championship runs:



PLAYOFFS PACE:



1991 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1991.html#all_misc_stats):. 93.3
1992 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1992.html#all_misc_stats):. 91.7
1993 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1993.html#all_misc_stats):. 90.8
1996 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1996.html#all_misc_stats):. 87.1
1997 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1997.html#all_misc_stats):. 87.2
1998 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1998.html#all_misc_stats):. 85.9

2007 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2007.html#all_misc_stats):. 89.5
2011 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2011.html#all_misc_stats):. 87.8
2012 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2012.html#all_misc_stats):. 89.0
2013 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2013.html#all_misc_stats):. 89.5
2014 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2014.html#all_misc_stats):. 90.6
2015 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2015.html#all_misc_stats):. 94.4
2016 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2016.html#all_misc_stats):. 93.0




FINALS PACE:



1991 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-finals-lakers-vs-bulls.html):. 85.8
1992 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-finals-trail-blazers-vs-bulls.html):. 92.3
1993 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-finals-bulls-vs-suns.html):. 89.7
1996 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-finals-supersonics-vs-bulls.html):. 83.5
1997 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-finals-jazz-vs-bulls.html):. 84.0
1998 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1998-nba-finals-bulls-vs-jazz.html):. 82.0

2007 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2007-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-spurs.html):. 82.8
2011 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2011-nba-finals-mavericks-vs-heat.html):. 85.5
2012 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-finals-heat-vs-thunder.html):. 88.6
2013 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2013-nba-finals-spurs-vs-heat.html):. 88.1
2014 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2014-nba-finals-heat-vs-spurs.html):. 87.4
2015 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html):. 90.7
2016 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html):. 92.0






and saying MJ "let up" because he started choking.


Jordan was 9-18 for 26 points in Game 5, so his only bad shooting games were Games 4 and 6:



Game 4 - the youtube channel "Nobody Touches Jordan" did a video of Payton guarding MJ in Game 4 of 1996 Finals (link here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk)) - MJ was doubled exactly 10 of the 20 times he caught the ball with Payton guarding - all 10 double-teams are shown if gifs here:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11792377&postcount=161


Game 5: Jordan led the team with 22/9/7 and held Hawkins to 4 points, or 12 points below his average - this was important since everyone else's defensive assignment went off, and the Bulls WON by 12 - Schrempf destroyed Pippen for 23 points on 59%, Payton destroyed Harper for 21 points on 70%, and Kemp destroyed Rodman for 18/10 on 47%..

[Hey Yo]

Damn son, you are making this too easy.

Both MJ and Bron attempted 33 fg per game in 1993 and 2015. The similarities end there.

MJ - 41.0 ppg on 51% with double/triple teams

LeBron - 36 ppg on 39% with single coverage

If MJ had saw the single coverage LeBron did, he would've went ape sh't. No goat level scorer has ever been so disrespected like Bron in 2015. He should've dominated but his iso game was terrible.
You mentioned PPG. The 2015 Finals James had was 36-13-9 on 40% shooting. Add in the assists and rebounds, the Bulls win with those numbers easily. James went up against the number 1 ranked offense and defense in 2015.....MJ, not so much. Plus he didn't have to play w/o Pippen and Grant like James did w/o Irving and Love..


As for 1996. MJ in his first 3 games, when the series was still in doubt.

31.0 ppg, 46%, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 2.0 apg

After going up 3-0, he let up a bit. And this was by far his worst finals.

Thanks for playing.

Like I said those 1996 numbers (27-5-4 on 41.5% shooting) wouldn't have won the Heat or Cavs a title in 2012 through 2016.......unless of course James had an ALL-NBA Defensive teammate who avg. 15trb per game.......

Rodman...the real FMVP

[No Sir]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClvtfDOUoAANP8T.jpg

[Lebron23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClvtfDOUoAANP8T.jpg


Wow

[diamenz]

Wow

if you're shallow enough to be swayed by a couple of cherry-picked photos, then i think that deserves an even bigger wow.

[bigkingsfan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClvtfDOUoAANP8T.jpg
Wow