All Time Great NBA Players' Finals Statistics

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Only doing players I can find complete stats for.

Michael Jordan:

https://s32.postimg.org/xvzos2j3p/mjfinals.jpg

LeBron James:

https://s32.postimg.org/hx7i4jk11/lbjfinals.jpg


Kobe Bryant:

https://s31.postimg.org/sx3tdb1kr/kobefinals.jpg


I will add more players later :cheers:

[SamuraiSWISH]

1) 34 ppg 6 apg 6 rpg (6x FMVP)
2) 27 ppg 7 apg 10 rpg (3x FMVP)
3) 25 ppg 5 apg 6 rpg (2x FMVP)

[Akrazotile]

Jordan had to be cunning af to get around the likes of Dan Majerle. Then somehow penetrate through the twin towers of Barkley and Tom Chambers.

What challenging competition :rolleyes:

[scuzzy]

can u imagine the rim protection of "two packs a day" Divac and Perkins, talk about paint deniability :rolleyes:

[3ball]

Jordan had to be cunning af to get around the likes of Dan Majerle. Then somehow penetrate through the twin towers of Barkley and Tom Chambers.

What challenging competition :rolleyes:



**Contested shots are when one or more defenders leaves their feet to contest the shot**




JORDAN - Game 4 of 1993 Finals





CONTESTED SHOTS (18)





1) catch-and-shoot jumper, midrange (0:20 (https://media.giphy.com/media/l46Cg7Wd6tWYWsWVa/giphy.gif))
2) catch-and-shoot jumper midrange (0:31)
3) post-up turnaround jumper, midrange (0:37)
4) post-up turnaround jumper, midrange (0:48)
5) triple-threat pull-up jumper, midrange (0:55)
6) drive to rim via triple threat (1:02)
7) transition drive to rim (1:11)
8) drive to rim via triple-threat (2:09)
9) post-up turnaround jumper, midrange (2:48)
10) catch-and-shoot jumper, midrange (3:04)
11) pull-up jumper via triple-threat, midrange (3:13)
12) coast-to-coast and1 dunk (3:23)
13) pull-up jumper via live-dribble, midrange (3:53)
14) coast-to-coast and1 layup (4:05)
15) drive to rim via triple-threat (4:27)
16) pull-up jumper via triple-threat, midrange (5:39)
17) drive to the rim via live dribble (6:16)
18) drive to the rim via triple-threat (7:14)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dwcaYkGTTE





UNCONTESTED SHOTS (3)




1) drives thru 3 awaiting paint defenders for uncontested dunk (1:58)
2) pull-up jumper via triple-threat, midrange (5:46)
3) coast-to-coast layup (6:03)






LEBRON - Game 6 of 2016 Finals





CONTESTED SHOTS (9)





1) pull-up 3-pointer isolation, live dribble (2:37)
2) transition drive to rim (3:02)
3) catch-and-go drive to rim (4:00)
4) pull-up 3-pointer via screen, live dribble (4:56)
5) pull-up floater in paint, live dribble (5:18)
6) offensive reb putback (5:43)
7) pull-up jumper via screen, live dribble (5:49)
8) post-up turnaround, midrange (6:36)
9 pull-up 3-pointer, live dribble (8:12)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJEG7fcUn-s





UNCONTESTED SHOTS (7)




1) transition dunk (1:08)
2) post-up turnaround, in paint (1:25)
3) open dunk in transition (1:39)
4) drive to rim via screen and live-dribble (2:05)
5) cut to rim for dunk (3:43)
6) transition alley-oop (4:09)
7) receives pass for open layup (6:08)



Comments on the data:

The data shows that Lebron took less contested shots (where a defender left their feet to contest), and more uncontested shots (where no defenders left their feet).

Don't be surprised that more of Lebron's shots were uncontested - today's offenses keep 3-4 players standing behind the 3-point line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time

Jordan didn't have the luxury of spacing, so defenders were in closer proximity and his shots were more contested - superior midrange shooting ability kept his efficiency the same as Lebron's despite the superior contests.
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[Bawkish]

can u imagine the rim protection of "two packs a day" Divac and Perkins, talk about paint deniability :rolleyes:

how about Jason Terry dominance over Lebron?

[Akrazotile]

how about Jason Terry dominance over Lebron?


Uhhh, no, that was defense by committee. Also with Marion and Chandler... you know, two of the best defenders the league has ever seen.

[3ball]

Jordan had to be cunning af to get around the likes of Dan Majerle.


Far more cunning than Lebron needed to get around Diaw.

Majerle was a 2-time all-nba defender, and Jordan was also guarded by rising star Richard Dumas, who was a long and very athletic (https://media.giphy.com/media/26h0pswrpjgYgMvBe/giphy.gif) wing (100 dunks in 1993 season (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6i9zef&s=8#.U_02XvldX2U)).. He was also guarded by KJ, who looked much tougher to score on than the many times Curry got stuck on Lebron.





Then somehow penetrate through the twin towers of Barkley and Tom Chambers.


You forgot about Oliver Miller, who was a top 10 shot-blocker and had one of the longest wingspans in the league - his career block % and blocks per 100 is higher than Bogut's.

You also forgot about Mark West, their athletic starting Center, who routinely got 90+ dunks a year:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.VI_7OSvF_Ck





What challenging competition


Jordan faced far greater defensive attention because he outscored Pippen by 20 ppg, while Lebron outscored Kyrie by only 2 ppg - so the defense had to pay nearly equal attention to Kyrie.

Also, the 1993 Finals were played at a slower pace (85.8) than the 2016 Finals (92.0).

Finally, post #5 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12497848&postcount=5) above provides the play-by-play that shows a much higher number of Jordan's shots were *contested* in his 55 point game (where one or more defenders *left their feet* to contest), than Lebron's Game 6 of these Finals.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Why won't it let me edit my OP?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Shaquille O'Neal:

Overall:
https://s32.postimg.org/to67udpvp/shaqfinals.jpg

Best Finals (vs IND):
https://s32.postimg.org/dfdv4n6md/shaqbestfinals.jpg

[Poetry]

Jordan had to be cunning af to get around the likes of Dan Majerle. Then somehow penetrate through the twin towers of Barkley and Tom Chambers.

What challenging competition :rolleyes:

https://33.media.tumblr.com/16837fbcdc980ec1f0560e8fa53a5497/tumblr_nwt20jTBwu1sdydefo1_500.gif

http://66.media.tumblr.com/5b648b9bc0759e22bc1741ae5dc2b597/tumblr_mu1prhoXh41sdydefo1_400.gif

http://67.media.tumblr.com/081d69e66421fa9a386c809a4b6507fe/tumblr_mso5t2nJlt1sdydefo1_r1_400.gif

[Akrazotile]

http://67.media.tumblr.com/081d69e66421fa9a386c809a4b6507fe/tumblr_mso5t2nJlt1sdydefo1_r1_400.gif



:biggums:

[Mr Feeny]

Add Shaq and Wade and some others to the original post.
Also? Saammuri swish made a post where he included overall game score averages. Please include that! Let's make this thread the definitive finals stats thread:applause:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Add Shaq and Wade and some others to the original post.
Also? Saammuri swish made a post where he included overall game score averages. Please include that! Let's make this thread the definitive finals stats thread:applause:

Ok I can do that. But, it won't let me edit the OP. I wanted to add Shaq/Wade.