WTF why isn't Cavalier signing anyone up?

[Derivative]

They've already lost Delly and Mozgov, and Lebron is getting older. If they want to repeat they HAVE to sign up for players. WTF they aren't doing anything.

[Im Still Ballin]

The Champion steadies himself in the storm. He works from the eye.

[scuzzy]

The Champion steadies himself in the storm. He works from the eye.
Exactly and the Cavaliers still have until (Tues?) to match Dellys offer, which they won't

But Cle is in good position and have their core locked up, resign the King then pick the field

Griffins moves have all been A+ since 2014

[MP.Trey]

They got no money to spend, bro.

[imdaman99]

The most expensive team needs to add payroll? :lol

Delly played for peanuts with the Cavs, he's not coming back.

[Uncle Drew]

Delly's replacement already arrived on draft night in Kay Felder.

[RedBlackAttack]

It just doesn't make any damn sense! Why not make a run at Durant or at least Horford!!

[bobopenguin]

no need.

if kyrie can carry bunch of bums last season, he can do it again this coming season with improved Love.

[gigantes]

They got no money to spend, bro.
is that for sure?

even with the expanded cap, they can only re-sign their own FA's and/or pay others the league minimum...?

[Lebronxrings]

king Grif got this. :rockon: :pimp: :banana:

[BlkMambaGOAT]

With Godrie Irving on the team, the Cavs should be the heavy favorites for next year.




No excuses.

Barring a meltdown by his 2nd option Love, and 3rd option Lebron of course.

[RedBlackAttack]

is that for sure?

even with the expanded cap, they can only re-sign their own FA's and/or pay others the league minimum...?
First, let's break down who is on the books for the Cavs next year currently and respective salaries.

Players on the Books
Kyrie Irving, $17.6 million
Kevin Love, $21.2 million
Tristan Thompson, $15.3 million
Iman Shumpert, $9.7 million
Channing Frye, $7.8 million
Mo Williams, $2.2 million (picked up player option)
Sasha Kaun, $1.3 million
Jordan McRae, $900,000


The Math
Do the math and that is "only" $76 million, which is $18 million under the projected cap for next year. But, look closer... who is missing?

LeBron will be getting a $27.7 million contract based on how the CBA is structured.

That will move the Cavs' salary to around $103 million, over the cap limit.

Also, while Delly and Timo are gone, we still have to pay JR Smith. Letting Delly walk was a sure-sign that the front offices main priority this offseason was to re-sign JR (and LeBron of course). And, I think that is the right move. He's been completely indispensable on both ends.

But, how much is he going to get and how much will he cost us? I would guess somewhere between $14-16 million a year over 3-4 years.

Richard Jefferson is next on the list. I can almost guarantee he gets the vet minimum. So, you're talking around $1.55 million annually.

Same thing goes for James Jones.

We have the veterans minimum and taxpayers exception.

We are up to between $120-125 million and that doesn't include draft picks Kay Felder, who I will assume will make the roster, and Cedi Osman (we own his rights). Either of those guys could be signed to rookie deals (basically nothing in today's NBA).


Options
This doesn't mean the Cavs can't make any moves beyond minimum contracts, though. There are still some assets at the front office's fingertips if they can work some things out.

First, there is the Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception which is $3.5 million to spend on a player.


Roster Questions/Concerns
The biggest question I have is whether you use this for a real, 7-foot center or you attempt to mitigate the loss of Delly by landing a solid enough backup point guard.

Backup PG
The problem is, looking at the list of guys available, I don't know who that is. I'd love to have a guy like Leondro Barbosa, but he probably isn't leaving the Warriors unless he is making significantly more money, which he wouldn't in Clevleand. Now, he'd have a bigger role here. Maybe that would be appealing? Other names... Greivis Vasquez, Norris Cole, Ian Clark, Aaron Brooks, Randy Foye, Raymond Felton, Jarrett Jack, Ty Lawson, Pablo Prigioni, etc.

None of those naems seem appealing to me. I think the Cavs may just roll with Mo Williams and Kay Felder as their backup PGs and hope Williams gets healthy this offseason and Felder is all that they hope he is (kid has a ton of upside).

Remember... Delly was undrafted. He deserves a lot of credit for working himself into a $10 million a year player, but the Cavs have a recent, very good history of developing PGs.

Legitimate Center
What I think is a bigger issue is what to do with the center position now that our only true Center (Mozgov) just became a higher paid player than Kyrie Irving and/or Tristan Thompson (yeah, that happened). We have no legitimate centers on this roster right now except for Sasha Kahn and that isn't good. Tristan plays great in the playoffs against any and all centers, but to do it for an 82-game grind? That's a different story.

We need a center. A real center who can take the pounding and give out a little of his own. The guy I've been eyeing is Zaza Pachulia.

If he wants to take less money to go for a title, this is a perfect opportunity. We have the TPMLE and he'd be a great pickup.

The other option is to make a trade. The Cavs still have a lot of trade exceptions ($15 million total to be exact) to work with and a first round pick in 2020 (which I'd prefer to keep).

I'd love to see a deal made for a guy like Kostas Koufos and he's obviously being shopped by the Kings who have, like, 10 centers on their roster. I think he'd be a great fit.

They could also maybe get Zaza with the MLE and trade for a PG or wing player?


Conclusion
Lots of options, but they probably won't start to get really active (other than signing JR and LBJ) until after all of this initial madness. Deals will be out there when the smoke clears. I think they're being smart by not even attempting to engage in any of this money burning happening right now.

Fortunately, our core is already set and we did the vast majority of this work before the cap went haywire and Timofey Mozgov began making more than Kyrie Irving and/or Tristan Thompson. After all, we're essentially talking about the bench, here. The major stuff is cemented for a long time.

The Champs time will come, and it will be glorious. :pimp:

[Meticode]

In relation to what RedBlackAttack said I was looking at UFA centers and Pachulia popped out at me. He had a very decent year almost averaging a double-double. I think if he has interest the Cavs will make him an offer, but he's going to have to decide if he wants to win or get paid a little more money. Because the Cavaliers cannot offer him the money he deserves. It's very possible he'll start in most cases.

[gigantes]

The Champs time will come, and it will be glorious. :pimp:
:cheers: and thanks for the great breakdown, paterfamilias.

since moving out here, i've come to appreciate the value of lebron and the cavs to the city... even as a nets fan. there's a bar-restaurant around here that lets me play my djembe drum and other instruments during the playoffs. two years running now and i'm already looking forward to next season's hullabaloo. :D

i don't quite understand what happened to mo williams. some years back i remember him being lebron's sidekick, and now he's not even backup caliber it seems. oh well... age and injuries, huh?

[RedBlackAttack]

:cheers: and thanks for the great breakdown, paterfamilias.

since moving out here, i've come to appreciate the value of lebron and the cavs to the city... even as a nets fan. there's a bar-restaurant around here that lets me play my djembe drum and other instruments during the playoffs. two years running now and i'm already looking forward to next season's hullabaloo. :D

i don't quite understand what happened to mo williams. some years back i remember him being lebron's sidekick, and now he's not even backup caliber it seems. oh well... age and injuries, huh?
He got unlucky with injuries this past season. I think the team is hopeful he could come back strong at some point hopefully this coming season. He was actually a good player in 2014-15 and, at this time last year, it looked like a great pick-up. Even after his great Finals performance, people just assumed Delly would be the third PG behind Ky and Mo.

But, yeah... god damn injuries.

Glad to hear you found a spot that gives into your unique gametime predilections. :oldlol:

Cleveland is underrated in general, but especially when it comes to cultural acceptance and a thriving, diverse population of all different kinds of people from all over the globe. Glad you're enjoying it. :cheers: