View Full Version : Players with 3+ FMVPs and 4+ MVPs
Im Still Ballin
07-02-2016, 02:28 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Michael Jordan
Anyone else?
Great question bro. I know lebron is in this category for sure, and MJ is highly likely as well. Who else though? Hmm... No one is coming to mind.
Can someone help me out here?
Akrazotile
07-02-2016, 02:38 PM
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat?
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat?
I too would like to know this.
Anyone?
Im Still Ballin
07-02-2016, 02:43 PM
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat?
I also would like an answer for this
Anybody?
Akrazotile
07-02-2016, 02:45 PM
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat?
This is a great question and I as well am curious to know the answer..
Any of yall?
InsanityKills
07-02-2016, 02:50 PM
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat? I also would like an answer for this, for some research I'm conducting.
Please anybody?
Dray n Klay
07-02-2016, 03:58 PM
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat?
No, in fact LeBron has more than both COMBINED
:hammertime: :hammertime:
Mr Feeny
07-02-2016, 04:06 PM
I would also like to know if Kobe Bryant has accomplished this? Anyone?
JebronLames
07-02-2016, 04:27 PM
Great question bro. I know lebron is in this category for sure, and MJ is highly likely as well. Who else though? Hmm... No one is coming to mind.
Can someone help me out here?
Just spent an hour looking for others who have accomplished this. Still looking.
P.S. 12be (1 MVP and 2 FMVP) didn't make the cut
Just spent an hour looking for others who have accomplished this. Still looking.
P.S. 12be (1 MVP and 2 FMVP) didn't make the cut
20 years in the league and only 3 mvps total? No way, that can't be right!!
Can someone confirm or deny?
Akrazotile
07-02-2016, 04:41 PM
20 years in the league and only 3 mvps total? No way, that can't be right!!
Can someone confirm or deny?
Ive got a few connections at Elias who are looking into this for me... but so far it doesnt look good :(
ScalsFan21
07-02-2016, 04:42 PM
No its true, been heavily researching this for important hypotheses. Crazy thing is, 2 of those 3 alleged MVPs have been the subject of much scrutiny, with only this 2009 FMVP being universally considered genuine. I don't know, it's surprising but the data doesn't lie.
JebronLames
07-02-2016, 04:54 PM
No its true, been heavily researching this for important hypotheses. Crazy thing is, 2 of those 3 alleged MVPs have been the subject of much scrutiny, with only this 2009 FMVP being universally considered genuine. I don't know, it's surprising but the data doesn't lie.
Although we're both in the LeBron fam, I have to disagree with this.
I heard from a reliable source that Kevin Garnett aka KG aka the big ticket was injured during the 2009 playoffs. Thus, 12be's 2009 FMVP should not be considered genuine.
20 years in the league with 0 genuine MVPs. :roll: :roll:
SexSymbol
07-02-2016, 04:55 PM
Bill Russell.
SexSymbol
07-02-2016, 04:57 PM
Although we're both in the LeBron fam, I have to disagree with this.
I heard from a reliable source that Kevin Garnett aka KG aka the big ticket was injured during the 2009 playoffs. Thus, 12be's 2009 FMVP should not be considered genuine.
20 years in the league with 0 genuine MVPs. :roll: :roll:
So was bron's fmvp illegitimate this year because Bosh and Valanciunas couldn't play?
Bankaii
07-02-2016, 05:11 PM
So was bron's fmvp illegitimate this year because Bosh and Valanciunas couldn't play?
Comparing the best player from the team of reigning champions (that had just defeated the lakers last year) to 2nd and 3rd options on teams that would've lost anyway:facepalm
warriorfan
07-02-2016, 05:17 PM
Comparing the best player from the team of reigning champions (that had just defeated the lakers last year) to 2nd and 3rd options on teams that would've lost anyway:facepalm
Kind of like when Cav fans compare the reigning MVP to the Cavs 2nd and 3rd options that would of lost anyways when it comes to injuries
JebronLames
07-02-2016, 05:21 PM
Comparing the best player from the team of reigning champions (that had just defeated the lakers last year) to 2nd and 3rd options on teams that would've lost anyway:facepalm
Sexysymbol getting Rekt again
J Shuttlesworth
07-02-2016, 05:28 PM
Kind of like when Cav fans compare the reigning MVP to the Cavs 2nd and 3rd options that would of lost anyways when it comes to injuries
Injured players don't do this pre-game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoxxMN8gNA
scuzzy
07-02-2016, 05:37 PM
Injured players don't do this pre-game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoxxMN8gNA
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Mr Feeny
07-02-2016, 05:40 PM
I'm being told that 12be wasn't good enough to accomplish this. I repeat; I'm being told by sources that 12be has indeed not accomplished this.
scuzzy
07-02-2016, 05:46 PM
Is it true that Kobe has only been a top 3 MVP candidate only 4 years out of 20?
So what season exactly was he ever the best player?
SouBeachTalents
07-02-2016, 05:48 PM
Is it true that Kobe has only been a top 3 MVP candidate only 4 years out of 20?
So what season exactly was he ever the best player?
Imo Kobe was the best player in '08
Bankaii
07-02-2016, 05:50 PM
Kind of like when Cav fans compare the reigning MVP to the Cavs 2nd and 3rd options that would of lost anyways when it comes to injuries
Couple things cucksfan.
1) Curry wasn't injured, you're pathetic for still pushing that after all the facts have undeniably proved he's fine.
2) The 2nd AND 3rd best players missed the entire Finals and would've won had they played.
If Bosh AND Dragic or Val AND Derozan had missed the entire series it would be an argument.
Besides, the Heat/Raptors could've been fully healthy and still would've lost to the Cavs. Cavs just proved they'd beat the Warriors in 2015 if Kyrie was healthy.
Stfu already.
Mr Feeny
07-02-2016, 05:55 PM
Imo Kobe was the best player in '08
Very, very debatable. Many could argue that Chris Paul and Lebron were both better. Paul certainly was, in my opinion. Either way, it's not clear cut and his point stands. A case can be made that Kobe was never the best player in any of his 20 years of basketball.
He has one mvp in twenty seasons,and that was disputable.
He was only top 3 in PER once and that was 3rd place. He's never finished in the top 2.
It's kind of crazy.
warriorfan
07-02-2016, 05:57 PM
Couple things cucksfan.
1) Curry wasn't injured, you're pathetic for still pushing that after all the facts have undeniably proved he's fine.
2) The 2nd AND 3rd best players missed the entire Finals and would've won had they played.
If Bosh AND Dragic or Val AND Derozan had missed the entire series it would be an argument.
Besides, the Heat/Raptors could've been fully healthy and still would've lost to the Cavs. Cavs just proved they'd beat the Warriors in 2015 if Kyrie was healthy.
Stfu already.
you are a liar
kyrie didnt miss the entire series
you dont even mention drays suspension
dont mention iguodalas injury
dont mention boguts injury
you are a dishonest troll that doesnt know ball, you exposed yourself when you were comparing kobe bryant and derek fisher due to ortgs like a dumbass, your opinion is worth nothing
Mr Feeny
07-02-2016, 06:00 PM
you are a liar
kyrie didnt miss the entire series
you dont even mention drays suspension
dont mention iguodalas injury
dont mention boguts injury
you are a dishonest troll that doesnt know ball, you exposed yourself when you were comparing kobe bryant and derek fisher due to ortgs like a dumbass, your opinion is worth nothing
Kobe didn't win a thing without fisher:lol
In fact Fisher was the one who saved Kobe's ass in the big ot in 2009:(
Finally, 2015-2016 Curry >> any version of Kobe.
:banana:
SouBeachTalents
07-02-2016, 06:03 PM
Kobe didn't win a thing without fisher:lol
In fact Fisher was the one who saved Kobe's ass in the big ot in 2009:(
Finally, 2015-2016 Curry >> any version of Kobe.
:banana:
Not with that dreadful Finals performance brah
Bankaii
07-02-2016, 06:29 PM
you are a liar
kyrie didnt miss the entire series
you dont even mention drays suspension
dont mention iguodalas injury
dont mention boguts injury
you are a dishonest troll that doesnt know ball, you exposed yourself when you were comparing kobe bryant and derek fisher due to ortgs like a dumbass, your opinion is worth nothing
Kyrie was 80% going into the Finals, and didn't even finish the only game he played.
Dray got suspended on his own accord, you can't use that as an excuses.
Besides, Love missed Game 3 and the Cavs still won, why couldn't the Warriors do the same?
Iggy had back spasms, the same back spasms that Lebron had in 2015. It's not a major injury, he was able to play just fine.
Bogut played 12 mpg, now all of a sudden he's important?
Mozgov hasn't been the same since surgery in 2015, can I use that?
Quit with the excuses. Your boy had one of the worst finals of all time. Get over it.
J Shuttlesworth
07-02-2016, 06:31 PM
Kyrie was 80% going into the Finals, and didn't even finish the only game he played.
Dray got suspended on his own accord, you can't use that as an excuses.
Besides, Love missed Game 3 and the Cavs still won, why couldn't the Warriors do the same?
Iggy had back spasms, the same back spasms that Lebron had in 2015. It's not a major injury, he was able to play just fine.
Bogut played 12 mpg, now all of a sudden he's important?
Mozgov hasn't been the same since surgery in 2015, can I use that?
Quit with the excuses. Your boy had one of the worst finals of all time. Get over it.
Absolutely 100% true, everything here. He just said straight facts without any ad hominem but you can just feel cuckfan's soul dying from these facts. Well put, Bankaii
AintNoSunshine
07-02-2016, 06:55 PM
I heard thisKobe dude is decent and played 20 fking years. How many does he have?
Bankaii
07-02-2016, 07:20 PM
Absolutely 100% true, everything here. He just said straight facts without any ad hominem but you can just feel cuckfan's soul dying from these facts. Well put, Bankaii
Thanks bro.
I know I'm biased because I'm a Lebron/Kyrie fan, but his argument is so ignorant it really isn't hard to destroy him lol.
ScalsFan21
07-02-2016, 07:27 PM
Although we're both in the LeBron fam, I have to disagree with this.
I heard from a reliable source that Kevin Garnett aka KG aka the big ticket was injured during the 2009 playoffs. Thus, 12be's 2009 FMVP should not be considered genuine.
20 years in the league with 0 genuine MVPs. :roll: :roll:
LMFAO you may have a point. Almost forgot about Perk's injury for Game 7 in 2010 as well.
SexSymbol
07-02-2016, 07:38 PM
Comparing the best player from the team of reigning champions (that had just defeated the lakers last year) to 2nd and 3rd options on teams that would've lost anyway:facepalm
Valanciunas was the best Raptors player and Raptors still took two games from CLE without him, so who knows what would've happened.
Bosh and Wade are 1a 1b and matched good with cleveland on paper.
SexSymbol
07-02-2016, 07:40 PM
LMFAO you may have a point. Almost forgot about Perk's injury for Game 7 in 2010 as well.
even though Rasheed played very good in G7 and better than any game Perk had in those finals?
Bankaii
07-02-2016, 07:53 PM
Valanciunas was the best Raptors player and Raptors still took two games from CLE without him, so who knows what would've happened.
Bosh and Wade are 1a 1b and matched good with cleveland on paper.
This entire post is just:roll:
SexSymbol
07-02-2016, 07:58 PM
This entire post is just:roll:
you know it's true, but it just destroys the illogical argument made by you or another poster back a page.
ScalsFan21
07-02-2016, 08:04 PM
even though Rasheed played very good in G7 and better than any game Perk had in those finals?
Rasheed played a good game but I don't think fossil Sheed was better than that version of Perk for that team in terms of their chances of winning. They needed him available to contain the post and it was undeniably a huge loss, as laughable as a Perkins injury seems in 2016.
Obviously Kobe had a pretty good Finals in all seriousness (iffy by superstar standards but that happens), but it was certainly a big loss for the Celtics and you can absolutely make a case they would've won one of the games in LA (Game 7) if it hadn't happened.
Bankaii
07-02-2016, 09:00 PM
you know it's true, but it just destroys the illogical argument made by you or another poster back a page.
No it's so dumb I didn't feel the need to make a real response.
Val isn't the Raptors best player. He's 3rd in points and 3rd in FGA, he's the 3rd best player.
Even when he was cleared to play the Raptors still didn't play him, that should say enough.
Bosh isn't 1b, Wade is clearly their best player.
And if you're dumb enough to believe that the Heat when healthy are actually contenders, let alone can beat the Cavs, youre so beyond retarded I'm surprised you can sign in all by yourself.
raprap
07-02-2016, 09:18 PM
SexSymbol is a dumbass.
Im Still Ballin
07-03-2016, 12:00 AM
So... Is there anybody else?
GrapeApe
07-03-2016, 12:45 AM
So... Is there anybody else?
Probably should add Bill Russell to the list. Kareem kinda got screwed out of a FMVP too.
JebronLames
07-03-2016, 02:37 AM
Probably should add Bill Russell to the list. Kareem kinda got screwed out of a FMVP too.
Just checked. D-wade not on the list (0 MVPs and 1 FMVP).
Mr Feeny
07-03-2016, 03:52 AM
Probably should add Bill Russell to the list. Kareem kinda got screwed out of a FMVP too.
Russell would count if fmvps existed back then.
So it's MJ, Bran, and Russell.
You can make an argument kareem could be on there with them but it's not conclusive.
At the moment, leKING is up there with Michael and Russell.
SwayDizzle
07-03-2016, 06:34 AM
kobe has 5 rings, soon to be 6
Mr Feeny
07-03-2016, 02:15 PM
kobe my idol doesn't have 4 mvps. In fact he only has 1 in 20 seasons of basketball :eek: He's also def doesn't have 3 fmvps like Mike, Bron, Duncan, Shaq and magic who are all better than him:(
:applause:
TheCorporation
07-04-2016, 03:37 AM
Does anyone know if Kobe or Stephen Curry has achieved this feat?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2013/02/michael-jordan-laughing.gif
Mr Feeny
07-04-2016, 07:05 AM
kobe has 5 rings, soon to be 6
Lolwat?
Kobe stays with 1 mvp. Retired. Ain't no more mvps for that scrub. Stay at 12th yee
Gileraracer
07-04-2016, 07:16 AM
Is this thread only to push the post count?
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