Is a 'F*ck ISIS' on an English Flag inciting hatred??

[poido123]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/01/muslim-offended-fck-isis-flag-police-calling-incitement/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


This is where we have to be careful how we go about restricting free speech.


If you can't have a flag denouncing a terrorist organisation then you might as well put England under the Sharia.

The problem lies with those who are offended, not the ones promoting free speech.

If you suppress free speech, that is the end of the free world.

[bluechox2]

lol how hypocritical can muslims get these days

[pauk]

Tommy Robinson founded & led a violent nationalist hate / Anti-Muslim group that targets British Muslims, EDL - which is basically a bunch of hooligans who hate Muslim's (not only muslims, but it has been the most popular subject) shouting about it and getting into fights, 74% of British people polled thought they were racist, many of his members got banned in the UK from various activities, including himself, he even has been convicted. Held some Anti-Muslim rallies himself, its not necessary to quote him on some epic anti-muslim rants, lets just say he is as Islamophobic as you can get even though he has calmed down a bit, he realised how racist having a group of bald men with England flags following him around made him look, so tried to distance himself from that...


"F'CK ISIS" on any Flag does not incite anybody/anything (except ISIS perhaps). It isnt & it never will incite actual Muslims, hell they will incite you to continue going **** ISIS.... British Muslims just know Tommy unfortunately, his past.....

You cant slither away with going only "f*ck ISIS" as a known islamophob, you cant fool people... acting like people have something against only that (like they support ISIS or something) and it has nothing with being against only YOU / WHAT YOU ARE KNOWN FOR.... a massive islamophob who loves to incite...

[poido123]

Tommy Robinson founded & led a violent nationalist hate / Anti-Muslim group that targets British Muslims, EDL - which is basically a bunch of hooligans who hate Muslim's (not only muslims, but it has been the most popular subject) shouting about it and getting into fights, 74% of British people polled thought they were racist, many of his members got banned in the UK from various activities, including himself, he even has been convicted. Held some Anti-Muslim rallies himself, its not necessary to quote him on some epic anti-muslim rants, lets just say he is as Islamophobic as you can get even though he has calmed down a bit, he realised how racist having a group of bald men with England flags following him around made him look, so tried to distance himself from that...


"F'CK ISIS" on any Flag does not incite anybody/anything (except ISIS perhaps). It isnt & it never will incite actual Muslims, hell they will incite you to continue going **** ISIS.... British Muslims just know Tommy unfortunately, his past.....

You cant slither away with going only "f*ck ISIS" as a known islamophob, you cant fool people... acting like people have something against only that (like they support ISIS or something) and it has nothing with being against only YOU / WHAT YOU ARE KNOWN FOR.... a massive islamophob who loves to incite...


Doesn't matter who it's from. It's free speech and tommy lives in a democratic society.

Anti Christians and imams spread hate in their rhetoric yet no crack down on that in the Uk?

There are cartoons depicting Jesus in an unfavourable manner, but Christians don't btch about it and understand how a democratic society works.

If you or anyone is offended by the EDL, tommy or any anti Islam rhetoric it's your problem. Take your backwards views to somewhere that caters for them.

[pauk]

I dont give two shits Poido, all im saying is i understand why somebody else could give a shit if that "freedom of speech" came from a known racist or nazist or islamophob (really the same thing) who is the founder of the GOAT anti-islam inciting group...

...and im all for freedom of speech and all, cool, awesome, but not when you abuse it for your douchebag needs... when i just came out of a shop walking the street home i dont want some lunatic jump infront me and wave his "**** ISIS" flag across my grill while im doing everything in my power to pass/get away... then you might get a reaction outta me, i am human.... and then you may take a guess the reaction came because he is holding a "**** ISIS" flag (like i support ISIS or something? Thats what those groups want, will say & incite for!) or because you are just being a ***ing asshole... you do that crap and you will get that same reaction outta me even if you waved a "I LOVE YOU!!" flag instead...

..and this is what these groups do to British Muslims. Nobody does this to British Christians... especially not British Muslims (that would be horribly non-islamic behaviour) and Muslims know those groups are not so Christian either anyways, no devout Christian behaves that way (or they missed the damn point), they are atheists/agnostics... and hence ofcourse its better to target some other religion rather than fellow native religion / your own people....

Has nothing to do with being against freedom of speech / what they say / supporting ISIS-Terrorists, has to do with being against douchebags - racists, bad human beings....... ISIS just some day ago killed/damaged 100s of people in Istanbul.... all muslims... actually even more recently just 2 hours ago in Baghdad this happened (80 killed, 160 injured) (https://www.rt.com/news/349335-iraq-blast-karrada-injured/)completely normal over there, they have killed more muslims than anything else, nobody photoshopping Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Afghanistani, Pakistani, Arabic whatever the **** flag over their Facebook Images.... instead those groups say or think "GOOD!!!" (see Tommy Robinsons & his group members twitter)..... STOP IT....

[poido123]

I dont give two shits Poido, all im saying is i understand why somebody else could give a shit if that "freedom of speech" came from a known racist or nazist or islamophob (really the same thing) who is the founder of the GOAT anti-islam inciting group...

...and im all for freedom of speech and all, cool, awesome, but not when you abuse it for your douchebag needs... when i just came out of a shop walking the street home i dont want some lunatic jump infront me and wave his "**** ISIS" flag across my grill while im doing everything in my power to pass/get away... then you might get a reaction outta me, i am human.... and then you may take a guess the reaction came because he is holding a "**** ISIS" flag (like i support ISIS or something? Thats what those groups want, will say & incite for!) or because you are just being a ***ing asshole... you do that crap and you will get that same reaction outta me even if you waved a "I LOVE YOU!!" flag instead...

..and this is what these groups do to British Muslims. Nobody does this to British Christians... especially not British Muslims (that would be horribly non-islamic behaviour) and Muslims know those groups are not so Christian either anyways, no devout Christian behaves that way (or they missed the damn point), they are atheists/agnostics... and hence ofcourse its better to target some other religion rather than fellow native religion / your own people....

Has nothing to do with being against freedom of speech / what they say / supporting ISIS-Terrorists, has to do with being against douchebags - racists, bad human beings....... ISIS just some day ago killed/damaged 100s of people in Istanbul.... all muslims... actually even more recently just 2 hours ago in Baghdad this happened (80 killed, 160 injured) (https://www.rt.com/news/349335-iraq-blast-karrada-injured/)completely normal over there, they have killed more muslims than anything else, nobody photoshopping Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Afghanistani, Pakistani, Arabic whatever the **** flag over their Facebook Images.... instead those groups say or think "GOOD!!!" (see Tommy Robinsons & his group members twitter)..... STOP IT....


Tommy Robinson bothers you because he puts Islam under the microscope and you're not comfortable with it.

While you have wahabbist/salafist style Islam being pushed throughout the world, Islam will never have a shortage of terrorists and that is the fundamental reason why there is so much violence from muslims, including against other muslims fighting among subgroups.

[NumberSix]

I dont give two shits Poido, all im saying is i understand why somebody else could give a shit if that "freedom of speech" came from a known racist or nazist or islamophob (really the same thing) who is the founder of the GOAT anti-islam inciting group...

...and im all for freedom of speech and all, cool, awesome, but not when you abuse it for your douchebag needs... when i just came out of a shop walking the street home i dont want some lunatic jump infront me and wave his "**** ISIS" flag across my grill while im doing everything in my power to pass/get away... then you might get a reaction outta me, i am human.... and then you may take a guess the reaction came because he is holding a "**** ISIS" flag (like i support ISIS or something? Thats what those groups want, will say & incite for!) or because you are just being a ***ing asshole... you do that crap and you will get that same reaction outta me even if you waved a "I LOVE YOU!!" flag instead...

..and this is what these groups do to British Muslims. Nobody does this to British Christians... especially not British Muslims (that would be horribly non-islamic behaviour) and Muslims know those groups are not so Christian either anyways, no devout Christian behaves that way (or they missed the damn point), they are atheists/agnostics... and hence ofcourse its better to target some other religion rather than fellow native religion / your own people....

Has nothing to do with being against freedom of speech / what they say / supporting ISIS-Terrorists, has to do with being against douchebags - racists, bad human beings....... ISIS just some day ago killed/damaged 100s of people in Istanbul.... all muslims... actually even more recently just 2 hours ago in Baghdad this happened (80 killed, 160 injured) (https://www.rt.com/news/349335-iraq-blast-karrada-injured/)completely normal over there, they have killed more muslims than anything else, nobody photoshopping Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Afghanistani, Pakistani, Arabic whatever the **** flag over their Facebook Images.... instead those groups say or think "GOOD!!!" (see Tommy Robinsons & his group members twitter)..... STOP IT....
What are some untrue things that he has said about Islam? I'm not an expert on this guy so I don't have a position one way or the other on him.

[Dresta]

Pauk melting down over ISIS again: what's new?

[Nick Young]

I thought ISIS aka "daesh" were not Muslims and didn't follow Islam? :confusedshrug:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Nick Young]

Tommy Robinson founded & led a violent nationalist hate / Anti-Muslim group that targets British Muslims, EDL - which is basically a bunch of hooligans who hate Muslim's (not only muslims, but it has been the most popular subject) shouting about it and getting into fights, 74% of British people polled thought they were racist, many of his members got banned in the UK from various activities, including himself, he even has been convicted. Held some Anti-Muslim rallies himself, its not necessary to quote him on some epic anti-muslim rants, lets just say he is as Islamophobic as you can get even though he has calmed down a bit, he realised how racist having a group of bald men with England flags following him around made him look, so tried to distance himself from that...


"F'CK ISIS" on any Flag does not incite anybody/anything (except ISIS perhaps). It isnt & it never will incite actual Muslims, hell they will incite you to continue going **** ISIS.... British Muslims just know Tommy unfortunately, his past.....

You cant slither away with going only "f*ck ISIS" as a known islamophob, you cant fool people... acting like people have something against only that (like they support ISIS or something) and it has nothing with being against only YOU / WHAT YOU ARE KNOWN FOR.... a massive islamophob who loves to incite...


Why are you constantly defending ISIS everytime they are brought up on this forum? I hope to **** you do not live in America. I will need to alert the NSA and Homeland Security soon if you don't cut out your pro-ISIS preaching.

Consider this your first and only warning.

[step_back]

I thought ISIS aka "daesh" were not Muslims and didn't follow Islam? :confusedshrug:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Exactly.

If it's got nothing to do with you why would you take offence? :confusedshrug:

[pauk]

Tommy Robinson bothers you because he puts Islam under the microscope and you're not comfortable with it.

While you have wahabbist/salafist style Islam being pushed throughout the world, Islam will never have a shortage of terrorists and that is the fundamental reason why there is so much violence from muslims, including against other muslims fighting among subgroups.

I never knew about him until you brought this thread up, a quick research just showed who the guy is.... stop defending him & his ways... or wait, actually thats exactly what you are doing so in this forum aswell, never mind... continue... i mean the Admin cant stop you & everybody else cant make you grow up either with our words either, like talking to a brick... so continue...


Pauk melting down over ISIS again: what's new?

Dresta not being able to retaliate with simply adding a "melt down" comment, guy who support ISIS by thinking that is Islam again and defends/supports the racists, nazists, groups like Tommy Robinsons: what's new?


Why are you constantly defending ISIS everytime they are brought up on this forum? I hope to **** you do not live in America. I will need to alert the NSA and Homeland Security soon if you don't cut out your pro-ISIS preaching.

Consider this your first and only warning.

:roll: Did you actually read??
Its funny this coming from the guy who does them a favor everyday by not only talking about them everyday but by also implying ISIS are muslims / that their way is Islam / that hence Islam condones that shit.... after all the things you have said everyday for so long in their favor you deserve a premium VIP ISIS service for being such a great fan... :cheers: :rockon:

[Nick Young]

I never knew about him until you brought this thread up, a quick research just showed who the guy is.... stop defending him & his ways... or wait, actually thats exactly what you are doing so in this forum aswell, never mind... continue... i mean the Admin cant stop you & everybody else cant make you grow up either with our words either, like talking to a brick... so continue...



Dresta not being able to retaliate with simply adding a "melt down" comment, guy who support ISIS by thinking that is Islam again and defends/supports the racists, nazists, groups like Tommy Robinsons: what's new?



:roll: Did you actually read??
Its funny this coming from the guy who does them a favor everyday by not only talking about them everyday but by also implying ISIS are muslims / that their way is Islam / that hence Islam condones that shit.... after all the things you have said everyday for so long in their favor you deserve a premium VIP ISIS service for being such a great fan... :cheers: :rockon:
LOL dude I'm not joking, stop defending ISIS. I've already sent this to the NSA and Homeland Security emergency report email. I already gave you a warning and you ignored it. We can't take any more chances after Paris and San Bernadino and Istanbul and Orlando.

I hope for your sake that you don't live in America. Stop defending and justifying ISIS terrorist attacks. If you truly are a Muslim, you would hold nothing but contempt for that horrible terrorist organization.

Going through you pro-ISIS and terrorist attack justifying posting history (which is all recorded and archived on ISH, good news for the NSA) it is clear where your true loyalties lie. I included a few of your best pro-terrorist justification posts in the emails I sent as well. Get rekt.

[pauk]

What are some untrue things that he has said about Islam? I'm not an expert on this guy so I don't have a position one way or the other on him.

Ummm..... after seeing him/his group respond with like "Good!!!" on ISIS recent killings (just because victims were muslims) do i really need to say anything else? Everything they say is distorted, their souls are distorted... including your & your anti-islam fam (nick young, 9erempire, poido, patrick chewing etc)... you are doing the same hatred & inciting thing here, defending Tommys ways & supporting ISIS by thinking its awesome when they kill other muslims and thinking THAT is Islam & THEY are Muslims..... you are disagreeing with all other 99.99999% muslims (even in this Forum) who say they are not, that islam doesnt condone that shit... afterall... am i lying??

How the **** do you come back from that? Post another "melt down" comment and run away? You & your Nazi/Racist/Islamophob/Douchebag FAM have been exposed for what you are over and over by J$ or Bosnian Sajo or by me, either quit posting / change accounts or continue posting as Racist, Nazist, Islamophobic yet ISIS supporting douchebags.... the only reason you exist here is because it is the only forum on earth that doesnt ban posters like you (well, this and ST0RMFRONT)....

[Bourne]

LOL dude I'm not joking, stop defending ISIS. I've already sent this to the NSA and Homeland Security emergency report email. I already gave you a warning and you ignored it. We can't take any more chances after Paris and San Bernadino and Istanbul and Orlando.

I hope for your sake that you don't live in America. Stop defending and justifying ISIS terrorist attacks. If you truly are a Muslim, you would hold nothing but contempt for that horrible terrorist organization.

Going through you pro-ISIS and terrorist attack justifying posting history (which is all recorded and archived on ISH, good news for the NSA) it is clear where your true loyalties lie. I included a few of your best pro-terrorist justification posts in the emails I sent as well. Get rekt.

NY... don't become like the Left. Don't run to the authorities since he has an opinion that you don't like (regardless of how ignorant and pro-ISIS it appears to be).


As for the thread, man, you get charged with something for saying **** ISIS but you don't get charged for preaching an ideology that is sympathetic toward murderous bigots.

We should start using terminology that the Left uses. We'd be labelled xenophobic bigots much like Tommy Rob there, so let's react in kind? Call them murderous bigots? Perhaps then bleeding (brain) heart liberals will call to action against them because they are "bigots", the only type of evil that exists in their world.

[Bourne]

Ummm..... after seeing him/his group respond with like "Good!!!" on ISIS recent killings (just because victims were muslims) do i really need to say anything else? Everything they say is distorted, their souls are distorted... including your & your anti-islam fam (nick young, 9erempire, poido, patrick chewing etc)... you are doing the same hatred & inciting thing here, defending Tommys ways & supporting ISIS by thinking its awesome when they kill other muslims and thinking THAT is Islam & THEY are Muslims..... you are disagreeing with all other 99.99999% muslims (even in this Forum) who say they are not, that islam doesnt condone that shit... afterall... am i lying??

How the **** do you come back from that? Post another "melt down" comment and run away? You & your Nazi/Racist/Islamophob/Douchebag FAM have been exposed for what you are over and over by J$ or Bosnian Sajo or by me, either quit posting / change accounts or continue posting as Racist, Nazist, Islamophobic yet ISIS supporting douchebags.... the only reason you exist here is because it is the only forum on earth that doesnt ban posters like you (well, this and ST0RMFRONT)....

You aren't lying, but you're not posting intelligently either. No one is supporting the killing of muslims by ISIS. I haven't read everything in this thread or this forum but if you can find someone with more than 100 posts supporting the killing of muslims, I will delete my account. And if you only mean the EDL, well, I'm sure their comments were more of a call to awake the public that ISIS' evil knows no bounds, not to be happy that muslims of any affinity are dead.

You are arguing with hyperbole and pearl clutching. You are guilty of disgusting cognitive dissonance; you believe being outspoken against ISIS, and the destructive tenants of Islam* is inciting hatred but you condemn the voicing of opposition to preachings of imams who spread hate and evil and those who attempt to blind the world as to fact thhat a material portion of Islam followers are sympathetic to the murderous bigots. And don't you dare say that you don't condemn that - to denounce people like NY and Dresta is doing exactly that.

*note how I said the word destructive, which is to exclude the positive ones that obviously exist; further note how I did not connect ISIS and Islam as they are separate, one being completely evil and the other one being content with evil in many facets


Now be gone with you and stop proliferating evil because you think with your heart and inflated sense of virtue and not your brain.

[pauk]

You aren't lying, but you're not posting intelligently either. No one is supporting the killing of muslims by ISIS. I haven't read everything in this thread or this forum but if you can find someone with more than 100 posts supporting the killing of muslims, I will delete my account. And if you only mean the EDL, well, I'm sure their comments were more of a call to awake the public that ISIS' evil knows no bounds, not to be happy that muslims of any affinity are dead.

You are arguing with hyperbole and pearl clutching. You are guilty of disgusting cognitive dissonance; you believe being outspoken against ISIS, and the destructive tenants of Islam* is inciting hatred but you condemn the voicing of opposition to preachings of imams who spread hate and evil and those who attempt to blind the world as to fact thhat a material portion of Islam followers are sympathetic to the murderous bigots. And don't you dare say that you don't condemn that - to denounce people like NY and Dresta is doing exactly that.

*note how I said the word destructive, which is to exclude the positive ones that obviously exist; further note how I did not connect ISIS and Islam as they are separate, one being completely evil and the other one being content with evil in many facets


Now be gone with you and stop proliferating evil because you think with your heart and inflated sense of virtue and not your brain.

The thing is i agree with many point of views of NY, Dresta & Co... but then they go to far and show their evil side/true intentions, after talking to them for years you will figure it out yourself, i cant give you 100 posts of some poster literally claiming to support the killings of muslims by ISIS (you wont find that, beats the purpose of trolling/working as an undercover racist, nazist, islamophob)... but i can give you 1000+ posts of posters (like NY etc.) who disagree with 100% of the Muslims on this board who even prove to him that ISIS should not be called muslims and that Islam doesnt condone that...... they disagree... if you support ISIS ideology & expose yourself of what type of human being you are, how can you then not secretly even support the killings of Muslims by ISIS? :confusedshrug:

Now be gone with you and stop proliferating evil because you think with your ignorant & stubborn cerebral cortex (US media, redneck family/friends, lack of knowledge in the Islam department) instead of your heart, sense of virtue and simply cognative ration and ****ING LOGIC....

[Nick Young]

NY... don't become like the Left. Don't run to the authorities since he has an opinion that you don't like (regardless of how ignorant and pro-ISIS it appears to be).


As for the thread, man, you get charged with something for saying **** ISIS but you don't get charged for preaching an ideology that is sympathetic toward murderous bigots.

We should start using terminology that the Left uses. We'd be labelled xenophobic bigots much like Tommy Rob there, so let's react in kind? Call them murderous bigots? Perhaps then bleeding (brain) heart liberals will call to action against them because they are "bigots", the only type of evil that exists in their world.
San Bernadino. Orlando. Paris. Everyone knew the people involved in planning these attacks were weirdos but no one spoke out or alerted someone who could prevent their murder spree.

Chances are the NSA and Homeland Security ignores my emails. Still I must do the right thing. It is my civil duty as an American to prevent terrorist attacks from striking my fellow countrymen and pauk has proven over years of posting here that he is sympathetic with the radical Islamist cause.

As long as pauk continues to sympathize with, support and justify radical terrorist attacks, he and everyone who shares his extremist views is a threat to National Security.

We have seen already how easy it is for ISIS to brainwash and seduce people like pauk.

This is not a laughing matter.

[pauk]

Forget it, wont continue, this is my last post on this subject / your threads & assumptions Nick-Young, Dresta, 9erempire, Numbersix, Patrick Chewing and the likes. Impossible trying to talk sense to you or befriend you, you just blow my mind... didnt censor myself like everybody else to comfort your ignorance, but its time... have at it, sieg heil...

Some cool quotes:

"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."
- Euripides

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”
- S

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=pauk]Forget it, wont continue, this is my last post on this subject / your threads & assumptions Nick-Young, Dresta, 9erempire, Numbersix, Patrick Chewing and the likes. Impossible trying to talk sense to you or befriend you... have at it... didnt censor myself like everybody else to comfort your ignorance, but its time...

Some cool quotes:

"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."
- Euripides

[I]

[plowking]

pauk's reasoning in all these threads is verging on the most idiotic things I've ever heard or read.

He is basically saying if you do bad stuff, and don't follow the religion to a T, you aren't really religious, and you don't follow that religion, and religious people don't do bad things. :oldlol:

Yeah, k bud.

[poido123]

Ok, this thread went south quickly :oldlol:


I honestly don't think Pauk is a bad guy, I have more suspicions about others on here who might be sympathetic to ISIS, but not him.


The main point I want to make is that examples like this flag demonstration is threatening our free speech.


The onus is on those who are offended, not those making the offensive flags. No religion is safe in a democratic society and we want to keep it that way.


The Charlie Hebdo incident should tell us about who exactly shows little tolerance.


Muslims with the mindset to change and manipulate Western/european society to suit their needs are not welcome.

[Dresta]

Pauk isn't a bad guy: he's just a retard with a lot of misplaced enthusiasm.

[StephHamann]

Wow another meltdown

https://meaghanshus.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/owxzndc.jpg?w=748