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iamgine
07-03-2016, 07:28 AM
No other decent candidate? Hoping being a woman give novelty value?

Why put through a candidate who was involved in a big email fraud case? Regardless of the truth many of the voters has already distrust her from the start and that's not a winning formula.

It's not like the other side is putting out a champ in Donald Trump but lets just focus on the democrat side, why Hillary?

9erempiree
07-03-2016, 07:34 AM
Democrats and donors promised her this position if she dropped out in 2008 in a tight race with Obama. If she didn't drop out she would probably been the president then.

She did the job and bowed out two days after a meeting with Obama and company.

She is the nominee because she did the job in '08.

VP's are usually the successors and isn't it funny that Biden is not running?

NumberSix
07-03-2016, 08:50 AM
Because the Clintons have done a lot of campaigning and fundraising over the years to help people win elections. A lot of people in the party owe the Clintons political favors. It's that simple.

GINOBILI!
07-03-2016, 09:49 AM
No other decent candidate? Hoping being a woman give novelty value?


Bernie was one of the best candidates I have ever seen. Too bad the American public is too stupid to vote for the best option and instead we have Hillary vs Dump.

knickballer
07-03-2016, 10:01 AM
Because she's the establishment's pick. The game is rigged in her favor. There was no other choice but Hillary Clinton this election cycle, she was selected not elected.

TheMan
07-04-2016, 11:47 AM
Because she's the establishment's pick. The game is rigged in her favor. There was no other choice but Hillary Clinton this election cycle, she was selected not elected.
To be fair and as a Bernie supporter, she did get more votes from the electorate than Sanders, unfortunately.

It's not like Bernie won and the DNC shoved her down our throats.

The process was slanted heavily in favor of Clinton but it was also in 2008 yet Barack won, us Bernie supporters fell short of the goal but we have a big say in the Democratic party's platform and I'm sure most of us will fall in line and vote for Clinton, especially considering the buffoon the other party nominated.

~primetime~
07-04-2016, 12:29 PM
because she was the best option and most qualified candidate

Dresta
07-04-2016, 12:47 PM
because she was the best option and most qualified candidate
What is she qualified at exactly? It's rare you see a person who has accomplished so little be handed so many prestigious jobs, almost entirely because she is the spouse of Bill Clinton. She only won her Senate seat because her competitors either died in mysterious circumstances or withdrew (kennedy, the front runner, and Giuliani). She got the position of Secretary of State with zero foreign policy experience (except for lying about sniper fire in Bosnia), for God knows what reason, and made a complete disaster out of it. She's an example of a person who has never had to work for anything in her life: the most privileged of the privileged. I can't think of a candidate less qualified than she.

Jim Webb is about 1000x more qualified than her, but he got booted out of the Democratic race for saying "all lives matter" while Hilary and Bernie sucked up to the BLM morons.

FillJackson
07-04-2016, 02:45 PM
Bernie was one of the best candidates I have ever seen. Too bad the American public is too stupid to vote for the best option and instead we have Hillary vs Dump.
Bernie had large gaps in his knowledge.

Even the stuff he campaigned on, he couldn't talk details.

If you tried to scratch surface beyond shouted slogans, things got ugly real fast. You realized he didn't actually put in the work and the thought to make his goals a reality. It was all wishful thinking.

Folk who actually cared about achieving goals in our current system gave up on him real fast.

To Bernie the Health Care Reform of the ACA and the Wall Street Reform of Dodd Frank are not victories. If it can't be done exactly the way it works, it must be a failure. He doesn't care that there's less systematic risk in our financial system than in 2008, he doesn't care that 20 million Americans have health insurance. He would rather keep his purity to criticize. He acts like the political universe consists of Democrats and folks to the left of Democrats, that Democratic ideas don't have to get through Congress, that there will be massive resistance to enacting Democratic goals. He doesn't care about the massive amount of work his colleagues put in for to enact Wall Street Reform, to enact Health Care Reform. Folks who care about practical politics are dismayed by that.

There's a reason very few of his colleagues signed on with him and why he had so few achievements in his career in Congress. He rather stay in the bleachers and criticize then actually get on the field and help with the work.

It's been amusing this cycle to see the 90's viewed through the lens of younger folks who have only lived under a Democratic President and see historical context washed away. This era of Democratic ascendance in Presidential Politics is fairly recent. It wasn't all that long ago that electoral maps looked like this. In fact that was the three maps before Bill Clinton was elected. For folks dismayed that Clinton was a moderate Democrat, a liberal wouldn't have been elected because the country had rejected liberalism.

http://electoralmap.net/1980.png

http://electoralmap.net/1984.png

http://electoralmap.net/1988.png

I'm not sure what Bernie's endgame is, but he seems to frittering away the influence he could have had. The last time the left was talking nonsense about how there's no differences between the parties, resulted in this. I remember the vapidity of these arguments well.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/12/article-2656245-00374E4F00000258-755_634x448.jpg

FillJackson
07-04-2016, 03:43 PM
No other decent candidate? Hoping being a woman give novelty value?

Why put through a candidate who was involved in a big email fraud case? Regardless of the truth many of the voters has already distrust her from the start and that's not a winning formula.

It's not like the other side is putting out a champ in Donald Trump but lets just focus on the democrat side, why Hillary?
In answer to OP's question.

She is easily the hardest working, toughest, most knowledgeable on a detail level and most knowledgeable on a broad level of any possible Democratic candidate and light years ahead of Republicans and third party candidates. She is better as a legislator/executive than as a candidate so folks who have worked with her up close know this.

You don't seem to seem to follow these things closely if you think there's a fraud case involving her. If you think a woman running for president is not going get a specific type of irrational criticism than a man, than you probably think having a woman as president would only bring novelty value. The right wing has had a visceral hatred for this woman since the 1980's and in the 1990s they got a chance to use taxpayer money to go after her. They came up empty, but they did their damage. If you think of how the boys on this board get hepped up about feminism in 2016, I can assure you, the generation during the 1970's and 1980's were much, much worse. We just spent two years and millions of dollars on ANOTHER Benghazi committee. It again came up empty. Came up with the same answers that the other 6 or 7 or 8 investigations came up with in fact. Why did we even have another investigation? Republicans have admitted it was to damage Hillary. If you think that Republicans were using taxpayer money for some other reason than to manufacture distrust of Hillary Clinton, then I have a this novelty item to sell you.http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2016-02-08-1454960465-2579341-hillarynutcracker-thumb.jpg

DonDadda59
07-04-2016, 03:46 PM
She got more votes than everyone else. Is this a trick question? :confusedshrug:

Dresta
07-04-2016, 04:24 PM
I'm not sure what Bernie's endgame is, but he seems to frittering away the influence he could have had. The last time the left was talking nonsense about how there's no differences between the parties, resulted in this. I remember the vapidity of these arguments well.


The differences between the two major parties are entirely superficial; you're delusional to think otherwise: the phenomenon is present in pretty much every single western democracy.

FillJackson
07-04-2016, 04:36 PM
What is she qualified at exactly? It's rare you see a person who has accomplished so little be handed so many prestigious jobs, almost entirely because she is the spouse of Bill Clinton. She only won her Senate seat because her competitors either died in mysterious circumstances or withdrew (kennedy, the front runner, and Giuliani). She got the position of Secretary of State with zero foreign policy experience (except for lying about sniper fire in Bosnia), for God knows what reason, and made a complete disaster out of it. She's an example of a person who has never had to work for anything in her life: the most privileged of the privileged. I can't think of a candidate less qualified than she.

Jim Webb is about 1000x more qualified than her, but he got booted out of the Democratic race for saying "all lives matter" while Hilary and Bernie sucked up to the BLM morons.
She did not win her Senate race because Giuliani dropped out. Giuliani dropped out because he was badly losing his Senate race and was going to get creamed if he stayed in. Who exactly was the front runner? JFK JR? Are ****ing kidding me? There's no way he would have won a primary, let alone a Senate seat. OMG, I just looked up where that ****ing nonsense came from. Ed Klein. Good lord. The most privileged of the privileged? LOL. And your evidence is JFK JR? Holy ****! Here's an actual article on NY Senate race in 1999, Kennedy is not even mentioned. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/keyraces2000/stories/lowey030299.htm). This isn't Massachusetts, JFK JR wouldn't win shit in NY. Other Kennedy's could, but not him. Clinton was also considered an up and coming political star before Bill Clinton was elected to anything. She had no foreign policy experience! except for her entire Senate career where she served on the Armed Forces committee.

This poll was one month before Giuliani dropped out.

The first lady now enjoys a 49 percent to 41 percent lead over Mr. Giuliani; when undecided voters were pressed to state their leaning, Mrs. Clinton moved a full 10 points ahead of Mr. Giuliani, 52 percent to 42 percent.

At one point Giuliani was up like 10, and one the reasons she turned it around was she completely out worked him visiting every part of the state. She was credited by her opponents of turning her political enemies into supporters.

I did not vote for her in that race and was skeptical of her, but she has won me over since then.

Jim Webb was never actually running for President as he wanted him handed to him and refused to work for it.

Nanners
07-04-2016, 04:42 PM
Jim Webb was never actually running for President as he wanted him handed to him and refused to work for it.

so he wanted the democrats to treat him the same way they do hillary? the nerve of that man!

Dresta
07-04-2016, 05:07 PM
She did not win her Senate race because Giuliani dropped out. Giuliani dropped out because he was badly losing his Senate race and was going to get creamed if he stayed in. Who exactly was the front runner? JFK JR? Are ****ing kidding me? There's no way he would have won a primary, let alone a Senate seat. OMG, I just looked up where that ****ing nonsense came from. Ed Klein. Good lord. The most privileged of the privileged? LOL. And your evidence is JFK JR? Holy ****! Here's an actual article on NY Senate race in 1999, Kennedy is not even mentioned. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/keyraces2000/stories/lowey030299.htm). This isn't Massachusetts, JFK JR wouldn't win shit in NY. Other Kennedy's could, but not him. Clinton was also considered an up and coming political star before Bill Clinton was elected to anything. She had no foreign policy experience! except for her entire Senate career where she served on the Armed Forces committee.

This poll was one month before Giuliani dropped out.


At one point Giuliani was up like 10, and one the reasons she turned it around was she completely out worked him visiting every part of the state. She was credited by her opponents of turning her political enemies into supporters.

I did not vote for her in that race and was skeptical of her, but she has won me over since then.

Jim Webb was never actually running for President as he wanted him handed to him and refused to work for it.This is so much bullshit. What experience before Bill? She was a mediocre academic who wrote on the subject of children (so probably not even mediocre), learnt and taught law (wow, a lawyer--trustworthy!), and defended child murderers with a smirk. Her meagre practical experience in foreign policy has been consistently neocon, and completely unwilling to change, or recognise the death and destruction her foolish policies have wrung. What experience! She is a psychopath.

And I didn't know propaganda bots could meltdown--that's a new one :lol .

iamgine
07-04-2016, 08:24 PM
You don't seem to seem to follow these things closely if you think there's a fraud case involving her...
What I'm saying is, in many voters mind, there is a case. Why put forward a candidate who has this huge email fraud case (regardless of her innocence). It's not a winning formula to already lost so many votes before even starting.

For example, you wouldn't put, say, 2004 OJ Simpsons as president nominee because, in a lot of voters mind he's a murderer and was involved in a huge murder case.

~primetime~
07-04-2016, 09:49 PM
You just compared OJ to her sending emails from an unauthorized server...

No one should give a shit about the email ordeal

Bourne
07-04-2016, 09:52 PM
You just compared OJ to her sending emails from an unauthorized server...

No one should give a shit about the email ordeal

It isnt as much the crime as it is the behaviour following it. If it wasn't so bad, own up completely, admit the mistake, and move on.

But no - she continued to act above the law. People don't like that and that is fair to me.

Hotlantadude81
07-04-2016, 09:58 PM
She doesn't have jack shit to offer. Neither does Trump (other than embarrassment).

Hotlantadude81
07-04-2016, 10:01 PM
What is she qualified at exactly? It's rare you see a person who has accomplished so little be handed so many prestigious jobs, almost entirely because she is the spouse of Bill Clinton. She only won her Senate seat because her competitors either died in mysterious circumstances or withdrew (kennedy, the front runner, and Giuliani). She got the position of Secretary of State with zero foreign policy experience (except for lying about sniper fire in Bosnia), for God knows what reason, and made a complete disaster out of it. She's an example of a person who has never had to work for anything in her life: the most privileged of the privileged. I can't think of a candidate less qualified than she.

Jim Webb is about 1000x more qualified than her, but he got booted out of the Democratic race for saying "all lives matter" while Hilary and Bernie sucked up to the BLM morons.

It's funny that Libtards whine about white privilege when that's all Hillary has ever had her whole career. Privilege.

Akrazotile
07-05-2016, 12:09 AM
It's funny that Libtards whine about white privilege when that's all Hillary has ever had her whole career. Privilege.


It's genuinely shocking how many people in America are willing to vote for this woman.

Like, the Trump support is just an anti-establishment statement. But Hillary's voters actually think she cares about them, which is astonishing. She doesnt care about her voters at ALL, nor the country itself. Only those who donate large sums to "The Clinton Foundation."

And she has a ton of support from the "axe to grind" left. Those who dont have their own values, ideas, nor frankly their own fulfillment in life, and they exist simply to antagonize conservatives. Those who resent America, in many cases simply because it's still a majority white. The nathanjizzle's, the TheMan's. They cant make themselves happy here, so they wanna sink the ship for everyone. They vote against relublican ideals, simply to spite republican people. And it has an awful effect on the country.

What a (sad) time :( .

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 02:49 AM
This is so much bullshit. What experience before Bill? She was a mediocre academic who wrote on the subject of children (so probably not even mediocre), learnt and taught law (wow, a lawyer--trustworthy!), and defended child murderers with a smirk. Her meagre practical experience in foreign policy has been consistently neocon, and completely unwilling to change, or recognise the death and destruction her foolish policies have wrung. What experience! She is a psychopath.

And I didn't know propaganda bots could meltdown--that's a new one :lol .Dude, you get your sense of American politics from Ed Klein.

I love the guy dismissing working on behalf of children portraying someone else as a psychopath. You know you have something twisted deep inside of you.

I said she was being regarded as an up and coming star, not that she was already a politician. The first time someone talked about Senator Hillary Clinton or President Hillary Clinton was in 1972. In 1974 she was on the staff on the Committee that would have impeached Nixon had he not resigned. That same year Bill Clinton first ran for office and lost.

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 02:59 AM
What I'm saying is, in many voters mind, there is a case. Why put forward a candidate who has this huge email fraud case (regardless of her innocence). It's not a winning formula to already lost so many votes before even starting.

For example, you wouldn't put, say, 2004 OJ Simpsons as president nominee because, in a lot of voters mind he's a murderer and was involved in a huge murder case.Why do you keep mentioning fraud?
FRAUD IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY.

Do you even understand what fraud is?

Also OJ is a terrible ****ing example. Currently there is no "case" at all against Clinton.

There is one Presidential candidate facing a case involving fraud. His name is Donald Trump and he's being sued by the Attorney General of New York State. (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-attorney-general-slams-trump-university-fraud-beginning/story?id=39552689) Here's the complaint.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/301738966/The-State-of-New-York-v-Trump-University-Complaint

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 03:03 AM
It isnt as much the crime as it is the behaviour following it. If it wasn't so bad, own up completely, admit the mistake, and move on.

But no - she continued to act above the law. People don't like that and that is fair to me.Um, what crime? You're jumping quite a bit ahead of things here.

What are you talking about act above the law? She was out of office, by the time this was raised.

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 03:08 AM
It's funny that Libtards whine about white privilege when that's all Hillary has ever had her whole career. Privilege.
Yeah, women had it so easy in 1970's.

9erempiree
07-05-2016, 03:09 AM
Lets not forget

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FillJackson
07-05-2016, 03:17 AM
Lets not forget

-KKK
-Super predator
-Hot Sauce
-Mariachi band
Great. Thanks.

I laughed so hard I woke up my wife and she's pissed at me.

thanks a bunch.

9erempiree
07-05-2016, 03:27 AM
Great. Thanks.

I laughed so hard I woke up my wife and she's pissed at me.

thanks a bunch.

No problem.

Now give that wife a kiss for me. Tell her its from a poster on ISH. Slip the tongue so she know its from me.

iamgine
07-05-2016, 04:25 AM
Why do you keep mentioning fraud?
FRAUD IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY.

Do you even understand what fraud is?

Also OJ is a terrible ****ing example. Currently there is no "case" at all against Clinton.

There is one Presidential candidate facing a case involving fraud. His name is Donald Trump and he's being sued by the Attorney General of New York State. (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-attorney-general-slams-trump-university-fraud-beginning/story?id=39552689) Here's the complaint.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/301738966/The-State-of-New-York-v-Trump-University-Complaint
She wasn't charged but like OJ, a lot of voters already think she did it.

Why put a candidate like that through? It's not a winning formula to already lost so many votes before even starting.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 06:21 AM
She's your only hope.:applause:

LJJ
07-05-2016, 07:33 AM
Why do you keep mentioning fraud?
FRAUD IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY.

Using a bigger typeface doesn't make it true. The fact is that the FBI is currently investigating whether Clinton should face criminal charges. Fraud could very well be included in those criminal charges.

Criminal charges aside one thing seems to be clear, US government state secrets and communications have been grossly mishandled by Clinton and have almost certainly fallen into nefarious hands due to her poor judgment and incompetence.

~primetime~
07-05-2016, 08:37 AM
She wasn't charged but like OJ, a lot of voters already think she did it.

Why put a candidate like that through? It's not a winning formula to already lost so many votes before even starting.

She's going to destroy Trump, it doesn't matter.

Dresta
07-05-2016, 10:24 AM
Dude, you get your sense of American politics from Ed Klein.

I love the guy dismissing working on behalf of children portraying someone else as a psychopath. You know you have something twisted deep inside of you.

I said she was being regarded as an up and coming star, not that she was already a politician. The first time someone talked about Senator Hillary Clinton or President Hillary Clinton was in 1972. In 1974 she was on the staff on the Committee that would have impeached Nixon had he not resigned. That same year Bill Clinton first ran for office and lost.
I've seriously never heard of Ed Klein, so nice attempted smear there. And i've known enough about that psychopathic couple to draw conclusions without the help of anyone else for more than a decade now. It's very easy to see through such blatant frauds and liars if you pay even the slightest bit of attention (or aren't a paid bot like yourself).

What kind of non-psychopath uses the mass-death in Bosnia as a means of advancing their own career? They don't. There isn't any politician I can more surely point to and say: "there's an obvious psychopath" than Hilary Clinton. Seriously, none. That you spend so much time shilling for her in the internet is more than twisted to say the least: it is depraved and despicable; you should be ashamed of your disgraceful self.

Some facts regarding Hilary Clinton by someone who has followed her entire political career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrzyVt1lbpo

"she never thinks of anything else but that one day she might by President of the United States"

"every lobbyist and foreign policy interest group from China to Indonesia wii be laughing, because they've got exactly the person they know listens to them" (when Obama foolishly appointed her to office)

"if Barrack Obama does this to himself, he'll never have a moment's peace in foreign policy, and neither will we' - hiya Libya catastrophe!

How true. And much, much more, in just that clip. The woman is absolute scum; any person who gives a damn about integrity in politics despises her, and with good reason.

kentatm
07-05-2016, 11:32 AM
Democrats and donors promised her this position if she dropped out in 2008 in a tight race with Obama. If she didn't drop out she would probably been the president then.


:lol

you wanna explain how she would have been President in 08 when she didn't beat Obama in delegates or votes?

Duderonomy
07-05-2016, 11:37 AM
WTF the FBI director Shreds her to pieces for 15 minutes, giving up top secret and SAP information.

Then says "No charges recommended".

Military, Law Enforcement, Security professionals will tell you negligent behavior is Criminal. Usually discretionary employment discharge but rarely imprisonment.

The right thing to do is tell her to drop out of the race but She is too stubborn to do that.

NumberSix
07-05-2016, 11:39 AM
:lol

you wanna explain how she would have been President in 08 when she didn't beat Obama in delegates or votes?
She actually did beat Obama in votes.

Patrick Chewing
07-05-2016, 11:40 AM
WTF the FBI director Shreds her to pieces for 15 minutes, giving up top secret and SAP information.

Then says "No charges recommended".

Military, Law Enforcement, Security professionals will tell you negligent behavior is Criminal. Usually discretionary employment discharge but rarely imprisonment.

The right thing to do is tell her to drop out of the race but She is too stubborn to do that.


rigged

NumberSix
07-05-2016, 11:42 AM
Next time you do something illegal, tell the judge you were just extremely careless. You didn't actually intend to break the law.

UK2K
07-05-2016, 11:46 AM
Next time you do something illegal, tell the judge you were just extremely careless. You didn't actually intend to break the law.
She didn't 'intend' to have an email server accessible by nobody. She accidentally had an email server accessible by nobody.


In November 2010, longtime aide Huma Abedin suggested that Clinton consider using an official department email account or “releasing” her personal clintonemail.com address to the State Department.

Clinton might want to consider the move, Abedin said, so her messages would not be “going to spam.”

But Clinton appeared to reject the proposal from her then-deputy chief of staff for operations.

“Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible,” she responded.

Bill Clinton has an 'unplanned' chance meeting with AG Lynch for 30 minutes on plane where pictures and audio recording was strictly prohibited, Killary tells media Lynch will be able to keep her job if she gets elected, FBI comes out and says she was more negligent with hundreds of classified emails...

American politics :oldlol:

Nanners
07-05-2016, 11:47 AM
gotta love how you can be sent to prison for years in this country for something like smoking a little pot, but if you intentionally mishandle classified government information so that your emails are not subject to FOIA requests they nominate you for president.

falc39
07-05-2016, 11:50 AM
gotta love how you can be sent to prison for years in this country for something like smoking a little pot, but if you intentionally mishandle classified government information so that your emails are not subject to FOIA requests they nominate you for president.

Not a criminal, just extremely careless.

Should be her new campaign slogan :lol

~primetime~
07-05-2016, 11:51 AM
gotta love how you can be sent to prison for years in this country for something like smoking a little pot, but if you intentionally mishandle classified government information so that your emails are not subject to FOIA requests they nominate you for president.
no one is doing YEARS for smoking a bowl

Patrick Chewing
07-05-2016, 11:52 AM
Matt Walsh
‏@MattWalshBlog
The FBI director ACTUALLY SAID that others who've done the same thing may face consequences, but not Hillary. HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT



Unreal

~primetime~
07-05-2016, 11:53 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LxThONlUNIQ/UX-bBasqA-I/AAAAAAAALgo/bfS2WG_KN3U/s1600/handle-the-truth.gif

DonDadda59
07-05-2016, 11:57 AM
Unreal

Hillavelli da Don (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5VCY28_Xo) :pimp:

UK2K
07-05-2016, 11:58 AM
no one is doing YEARS for smoking a bowl
I have seen 20+ year sentences for selling.

I'm not talking distribution level either.

UK2K
07-05-2016, 12:07 PM
The question is....

When I was overseas, if I took information emailed TO our COC tent, whether it contained classified information or not (let's say, 100 or so of them did), forwarded those emails TO my Hotmail account, and then forwarded that email from my Hotmail account to some commander back at Leatherneck...

Would I be charged or not?

Simple question. With a simple answer.

~primetime~
07-05-2016, 12:12 PM
I have seen 20+ year sentences for selling.

I'm not talking distribution level either.
the max for selling 50 kilos or less is 5 years.

50 kilos is 110 POUNDS of pot.


you have to be moving more than 110 lbs to get a MAX of 20 years.


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1185691/images/o-EVANSTON-RECYCLING-BIN-MARIJUANA-facebook.jpg

^^^ that is exactly 100 lbs

UK2K
07-05-2016, 12:21 PM
the max for selling 50 kilos or less is 5 years.

50 kilos is 110 POUNDS of pot.


you have to be moving more than 110 lbs to get a MAX of 20 years.


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1185691/images/o-EVANSTON-RECYCLING-BIN-MARIJUANA-facebook.jpg

^^^ that is exactly 100 lbs
For a first time offender maybe, but even then, there's ways around that.

http://m.newsok.com/article/3542585

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 12:32 PM
Using a bigger typeface doesn't make it true. The fact is that the FBI is currently investigating whether Clinton should face criminal charges. Fraud could very well be included in those criminal charges.
.It was patently true.

If you think the FBI was investigating fraud you don't know what fraud means.

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 12:38 PM
She actually did beat Obama in votes.
Only because the Florida and Michigan primaries weren't going to count so Obama didn't camaign there. There's no real way to get an accurate vote count for 2008

UK2K
07-05-2016, 12:41 PM
It was patently true.

If you think the FBI was investigating fraud you don't know what fraud means.

Think he meant 'corruption'.

[QUOTE]Joseph E. diGenova, who served as U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia for four years, said Wednesday he believes the FBI is investigating two separate Clinton scandals.

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 12:48 PM
She didn't 'intend' to have an email server accessible by nobody. She accidentally had an email server accessible by nobody.



Bill Clinton has an 'unplanned' chance meeting with AG Lynch for 30 minutes on plane where pictures and audio recording was strictly prohibited, Killary tells media Lynch will be able to keep her job if she gets elected, FBI comes out and says she was more negligent with hundreds of classified emails..


American politics :oldlol: :roll:
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:roll:

Pictures and audio recording were strictly prohibited? This is like 9th level conspiracy thinking. Who the **** should have recorded anything?

Also if the point was to hatch a conspiracy, would you do it with staff and security details as witnesses? At a location where its easy to prove you were there?

Why not, um call her at home?

So James Comey is now lying?

Patrick Chewing
07-05-2016, 12:49 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/13mrla.jpg

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 12:53 PM
Think he meant 'corruption'.this is like wrong and wronger. That quote was debunked within days. Also that guy is a terribly dishonest legal anylyst as is his wife.

UK2K
07-05-2016, 12:54 PM
:roll:
:roll:
:roll:
:roll:

Pictures and audio recording were strictly prohibited? This is like 9th level conspiracy thinking. Who the **** should have recorded anything?

Also if the point was to hatch a conspiracy, would you do it with staff and security details as witnesses? At a location where its easy to prove you were there?

Why not, um call her at home?

So James Comey is now lying?
I'm just going by the what the ABC news anchor, who was there, actually said...

Maybe you saw something different? If so, enlighten me, and the rest of the media.


ABC15 Arizona anchor Christopher Sign, who broke the story about the meeting between Attorney General Loretta Lynch and former President Bill Clinton, stated that “The FBI there on the tarmac instructing everybody around ‘no photos, no pictures, no cell phones.'” And that he has “no idea” why Clinton was in Phoenix to begin with.


Sign described the meeting between Lynch and Clinton, [relevant remarks begin around 1:40] “Some people step off of her plane. The former president steps into her plane. They then speak for 30 minutes privately. The FBI there on the tarmac instructing everybody around ‘no photos, no pictures, no cell phones.'”

LJJ
07-05-2016, 02:03 PM
It was patently true.

If you think the FBI was investigating fraud you don't know what fraud means.

Seems you have a poor understanding of the many different types of fraud that exist.



There certainly could be some clerical governmental fraud involved to get to that extremely unconventional and negligent setup that Clinton used.

FillJackson
07-05-2016, 02:10 PM
Seems you have a poor understanding of the many different types of fraud that exist.



There certainly could be some clerical governmental fraud involved to get to that extremely unconventional and negligent setup that Clinton used.
Nope.

Dresta
07-05-2016, 02:45 PM
Unreal
It's not unreal: it's been par the course in American politics for a long time now.

Most of the country defended Alger Hiss, the Communist spy, and declared those who called him one right wing paranoiacs. And then historically, we always hear about the hysterical McCarthy, but never here about the fact that the American government was riddled with Communists.

Real Men Wear Green
07-05-2016, 03:34 PM
Did anyone really think Obama was going to have his party's nominee indited? I mean, l basically like the President but even I would have been shocked.
She actually did beat Obama in votes.
That's only if you count Michigan where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot as he removed it because they broke Democratic primary rules in their primary.

UK2K
07-05-2016, 03:54 PM
Did anyone really think Obama was going to have his party's nominee indited? I mean, l basically like the President but even I would have been shocked.
That's only if you count Michigan where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot as he removed it because they broke Democratic primary rules in their primary.

No.

And they already planned to campaign together today... there was zero chance.

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