So, do the Thunder trade Russell now?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Kevin's decision likely means RW wasn't planning on staying for the long-haul, even if KD stayed. But now that KD left, it is pretty much a guarantee Russell does also.. So do they trade him? His value is probably highest right now, but you have to find a team with decent assets and a team he's willing to commit to long term.

[shadow]

Lakers will gladly trade Russell for Russell. I'm sure Mitch will throw in a Randle and Young too.

[DMAVS41]

Kevin's decision likely means RW wasn't planning on staying for the long-haul, even if KD stayed. But now that KD left, it is pretty much a guarantee Russell does also.. So do they trade him? His value is probably highest right now, but you have to find a team with decent assets and a team he's willing to commit to long term.

Yes. You either get Russ to renegotiate his contract and extend it or trade him. If he's not willing to extend it...you have to trade him. You can't risk losing him for nothing.

Lakers are the obvious choice. Ingram and Russell is fair. His hometown.

Boston is also another good choice. Something based around Jaylen Brown and the Nets pick.

Minnesota has the assets, but I don't know if he'd agree to sign there.

[SilkkTheShocker]

They should trade him for Jeremy Lamb

[Bernkastel]

Yes. You either get Russ to renegotiate his contract and extend it or trade him. If he's not willing to extend it...you have to trade him. You can't risk losing him for nothing.

This.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

They should trade him for Jeremy Lamb

Westbrook for Lamb & Kevin Martin?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lakers do make a lot of sense.

D'Angelo, Ingram and a couple of 1sts?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Westbrook for Lamb & Kevin Martin?

Im sure Presti will jump right on that:oldlol:

[alanLA92]

Westbrook for Lamb & Kevin Martin?

Put two 1st rounders in there along with a 2nd and OKC will prob do it. :lol

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Im sure Presti will jump right on that:oldlol:

That trade was so ****ing awful. It was the first domino to fall. They keep Harden and they probably win a chip by now, and Durant stays.

Now Harden is gone, Durant left, Westbrook leaving. Team will be utter shit for the next decade.

All because they didn't think James Harden was worth like 18 million per :oldlol:

[Dray n Klay]

That Harden 5 year $80M contract would be a STEAL in todays NBA :oldlol:



Presti :facepalm

[RoundMoundOfReb]

So it was 16 Mil per. Even more laughable. Harden will get like 30+ next contract. Having him at 16 is one of the best deals in the NBA.

[r0drig0lac]

Lakers will gladly trade Russell for Russell. I'm sure Mitch will throw in a Randle and Ingram too.
:applause:

[shadow]

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I don't think so. If Westbrook is going to leave anyway Lakers can just wait till next year as there will be cap room for a max player. My proposal was somewhat in jest but I don't think the thunder have a lot of leverage here other than being able to offer WB money for a S&T next year.

[Bond007]

i dont know how to feel about trading ingram+russell or randle for westbrook now. Can Snag him next year . Lakers were prepared to Max a player for 2017. want to see how these young core play together 1st

[RoundMoundOfReb]

i dont know how to feel about trading ingram+russell or randle for westbrook now. Can Snag him next year . Lakers were prepared to Max a player for 2017. want to see how these young core play together 1st
That's a good point, but what if a team like Boston makes a push and forces the Lakers' hand?

[DMAVS41]

i dont know how to feel about trading ingram+russell or randle for westbrook now. Can Snag him next year . Lakers were prepared to Max a player for 2017. want to see how these young core play together 1st

This is why keeping two max slots available should have been so important to the Lakers. You never know what can happen...and you want to retain that cap flexibility.

Russ might not want to go there alone...but maybe he'd go there with another max player joining him.

If you don't trade for him...you can't offer his full salary

LOL...Moz / Deng

[Jameerthefear]

yeah no way lakers do russel+ingram
MAYBE russel+randle, the only real reason to trade for WB is that you can offer that 5th year that no other team can

[shadow]

That's a good point, but what if a team like Boston makes a push and forces the Lakers' hand?

WB would still be a UFA next year though right? Why would he lock himself out of free agency?

[QuebecBaller]

Is there somebody worth signing to "replace" Durant in OKC? Any good SF left?

[BlazerRed]

They have two options as far as I see it.

1. Restructure and sign him long term this off-season.

2. Trade him.

If they lose Westbrook for nothing at the end of next season after Durant this year they are screwed.

[imdaman99]

Is there somebody worth signing to "replace" Durant in OKC? Any good SF left?
The Kyle Singler era has begun :rockon:

:roll: Honestly, they should let Morrow start. He is a great shooter. Maybe if he can figure out how to guard a pole, he would get more playing time.

[Bond007]

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]This is why keeping two max slots available should have been so important to the Lakers. You never know what can happen...and you want to retain that cap flexibility.

Russ might not want to go there alone...but maybe he'd go there with another max player joining him.

If you don't trade for him...you can't offer his full salary

LOL...Moz / Deng[/QUOTE

HOnestly did you think Durant was moving out of OKC ? I did not , specially to the Warriors

[DMAVS41]

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]This is why keeping two max slots available should have been so important to the Lakers. You never know what can happen...and you want to retain that cap flexibility.

Russ might not want to go there alone...but maybe he'd go there with another max player joining him.

If you don't trade for him...you can't offer his full salary

LOL...Moz / Deng[/QUOTE

HOnestly did you think Durant was moving out of OKC ? I did not , specially to the Warriors


That is the point though. Every decision in business and life has to be weighed with the potential upside and the potential downside.

In the case of the Lakers signing Moz / Deng...the upside just isn't near great enough to warrant what the potential downside can be.

Like I said in another thread...a big reason having a bunch of talented young players and rookies is because they don't take up a lot of the cap...so you can add star players while having a way more talented roster potentially than you normally could another way.

So...like...the upside of Moz and Deng helping the young guys develop just doesn't hold up against the downside of losing out on a Westbrook or other star or both because you only have 1 max slot.

[imdaman99]

Who has valuable enough assets to trade for him? Celtics? There is no guarantee he resigns with them next summer.

[El Kabong]

If the Lakers were willing to play ball with Russell and more and Westbrook doesn't want to sign an extension then I'd consider it. Westbrook is likely to have an MVP level season, but could flee after this year and they won't be a title contender minus KD.

They've still got a young side with guys like Kanter/Oladipo/Adams, so it's not like they're in a desperate "win now" window like the Spurs. This could be a really good chance for them to redevelop this squad.

[Carbine]

If Westbrook isn't going to negotiate an extension until the off-season, I would figure other GM's around the league would treat him as a one-year rental and thus would not give the maximum package they otherwise would.

[El Kabong]

If Westbrook isn't going to negotiate an extension until the off-season, I would figure other GM's around the league would treat him as a one-year rental and thus would not give the maximum package they otherwise would.
Lakers would. Of course, they'd have to be as dumb as the Knicks to trade for a guy early knowing there's a good chance they can get him as a free agent the next year.

[Carbine]

And just to clairfy, the value of 1 year of Wesbrook is still pretty high.

But the value of him under contract for the next 5 years makes him the most attractive trade piece of my lifetime. He would warrant a kings ransom - Russell + Ingram would not be enough in my opinion.....not after Deangelo sub par rookie season and the unknown of Ingram.

[DMAVS41]

If Westbrook isn't going to negotiate an extension until the off-season, I would figure other GM's around the league would treat him as a one-year rental and thus would not give the maximum package they otherwise would.

It would depend on the franchise, but some would have to take that risk. This guy is so damn good...he can turn around a franchise very quickly.

The Lakers, for example, would definitely gamble on it imo.

I think the Celtics might gamble on it as well...

Someone will give up something...and if Russ won't do the extension...I just don't see how the Thunder can let it play out. And the longer they wait...the more worried other owners will be about not having enough time to convince Russ to stay.

An owner is likely to give up more now...than they would at Christmas imo.

[RRR3]

Come to Miami Russ! :rockon:

[FashionIssues]

they can get more than value if they wait before the deadline.