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Lebron23
07-05-2016, 12:43 AM
[quote]If NBA free agency wasn't crazy enough

AngelEyes
07-05-2016, 12:48 AM
This is turning into star wars or some shit. ****ing flying over cities devising their diabolical plans.

Lebron23
07-05-2016, 12:49 AM
This is turning into star wars are some shit. ****ing flying over cities devising their diabolical plans.


Wade don't want to end up like Kobe who wasted the last 4 years of his NBA Career.

KingPush
07-05-2016, 12:50 AM
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DMAVS41
07-05-2016, 12:52 AM
Wade would be great in the Shumpert role, but JR Smith is more valuable to this Cavs team than Wade would be.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 12:52 AM
Lebron helped wade get his 3 rings, it would only be fair for him to return the favor and help his best friend cement himself as the GOAT.

KingPush
07-05-2016, 12:53 AM
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KingPush
07-05-2016, 12:55 AM
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SilkkTheShocker
07-05-2016, 12:56 AM
No way he comes to Cleveland. Dude is due for long last big contract.

KiiiiNG
07-05-2016, 12:57 AM
NBA is seriously better than ever. The drama is fantastic.

Cavs vs. Warriors.

In 30 years people will talk about the Cavs/Warriors rivalry of the late 2010's.

What a time.

KingPush
07-05-2016, 12:59 AM
NBA is seriously better than ever. The drama is fantastic.

Cavs vs. Warriors.

In 30 years people will talk about the Cavs/Warriors rivalry of the late 2010's.

What a time.
You need to replace Curry with Draymond in your avy

Lebron23
07-05-2016, 12:59 AM
Can you imagine Lebron and Wade having more rings than Kobe? Remember back in the day when that pathetic Kobe fanbase always uses the rings comparison.

sportjames23
07-05-2016, 01:02 AM
Lebron helped wade get his 3 rings, it would only be fair for him to return the favor and help his best friend cement himself as the GOAT.

:biggums:

Ramiah
07-05-2016, 01:06 AM
Wade coming to Cleveland wouldn't surprise me...Damn colluding...

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 01:10 AM
Wade coming to Cleveland wouldn't surprise me...Damn colluding...
Free agents negotiating with teams is not colluding tard.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 01:14 AM
:biggums:

After wade comes to Cleveland and the cavs win this upcoming finals vs the warriors, wade and lebron will have won 3 wings together and lebron will be the undisputed GOAT.

coin24
07-05-2016, 01:20 AM
Can you imagine Lebron and Wade having more rings than Kobe? Remember back in the day when that pathetic Kobe fanbase always uses the rings comparison.

5/7 > 3/7:lol :lol

Dray n Klay
07-05-2016, 01:21 AM
5/7 > 3/7:lol :lol

4 MVPs 3 FMVPs >> 1 MVP 2 FMVPs







In simple terms, Lebron is packing a 10" while Kobe is carrying a 3" cashew :lol :lol

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 01:22 AM
5/7 > 3/7:lol :lol
7 mvps > 3 mvps


GrapeApe
07-05-2016, 01:33 AM
Wade is not leaving Miami and everyone knows it. The Cavs can't afford him anyway.

D-Wait
07-05-2016, 01:37 AM
After 2010 I never count out anything Lebron and Wade might do. Maybe Lebron is pissed about Durant's decision and decides to take a huge pay cut for Wade? On top of that maybe they could unload Shump's contract? I don't think it will ultimately happen, but you never know with LBJ and Wade.

Lebron23
07-05-2016, 01:39 AM
After 2010 I never count out anything Lebron and Wade might do. Maybe Lebron is pissed about Durant's decision and decides to take a huge pay cut for Wade? On top of that maybe they could unload Shump's contract? I don't think it will ultimately happen, but you never know with LBJ and Wade.


He's pissed about Durant's decision.

Crimsonrain777
07-05-2016, 01:44 AM
please dont. Wade

GrapeApe
07-05-2016, 01:55 AM
please dont. Wade

Just to help ease any concern, ain't no way in hell Gabby is moving to Cleveland.

Dray n Klay
07-05-2016, 01:56 AM
Just to help ease any concern, ain't no way in hell Gabby is moving to Cleveland.

Why are you so concerned about Wade leaving??

Crimsonrain777
07-05-2016, 01:57 AM
Just to help ease any concern, ain't no way in hell Gabby is moving to Cleveland.

yeah. plus he wants to get paid. theres no way Cleveland can pay him close to the amount that we can offer

aj1987
07-05-2016, 01:59 AM
please dont. Wade
I doubt he would give up ~$20M to chase rings in Cleveland of all places.

GrapeApe
07-05-2016, 02:03 AM
Why are you so concerned about Wade leaving??

I've said on multiple occasions that I don't think he's leaving. If I was legit concerned I would just come out and say it. I've said all along that I expect Wade and the Heat to reach an agreement.

Lebron23
07-05-2016, 02:07 AM
LBJ is going to take another paycut. He's a good friend to Wade. Relationships are important.

D-Wait
07-05-2016, 02:20 AM
LBJ is going to take another paycut. He's a good friend to Wade. Relationships are important.

Stranger things have happened...

highwhey
07-05-2016, 02:49 AM
damn, he's 34 tho :(

maybe bring whiteside?

Papaya Petee
07-05-2016, 03:13 AM
damn, he's 34 tho :(

maybe bring whiteside?
He still averaged what? 20/5/5 in 30MPG last season?
22 PPG in the playoffs.

He would be a 14-17 PPG a game guy in Cleveland on 28-32MPG anyway.

Would be insanity.

Finn T-Mac
07-05-2016, 03:52 AM
Would be great but not happening :rockon: Wade is going to get his money in Miami + Heat need JR more for his 3 point shooting

bobopenguin
07-05-2016, 03:57 AM
lol lebron needs more help!

Meticode
07-05-2016, 04:26 AM
I'd be blown away if Wade did this. I think this would ruin his reputation with all 11 Heat fans.

Realistically though I don't want this to start happening. The league is already watered down enough with mediocre teams. Personally I would take sacrificing championship wins for a more competitive league. Sad part is Boston started the train moving by star players semi-forcing trades to Boston, then LeBron cemented it with the planned scenario.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 04:46 AM
I'd be blown away if Wade did this. I think this would ruin his reputation with all 11 Heat fans.
That's still about 4 more than Cavs fans though. :cheers:

I wouldn't mind if Wade left for more money.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 04:47 AM
Wade returns the favor and helps his best friend cement himself as the GOAT.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 04:49 AM
That's still about 4 more than Cavs fans though. :cheers:

I wouldn't mind if Wade left for more money.
Well Cleveland can't get anywhere in the ballpark of $20 million. Gilbert would have to gut the team with trades and LeBron would have to take a $5+ million dollar pay cut just make it realistic.

D-Wait
07-05-2016, 04:51 AM
Well Cleveland can't get anywhere in the ballpark of $20 million. Gilbert would have to gut the team with trades and LeBron would have to take a $5+ million dollar pay cut just make it realistic.

If this all has any legs, I just hope this move would not be at the expense of not signing JR. He clearly fits the starting lineup much better than Wade and currently plays better D.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 05:06 AM
Well Cleveland can't get anywhere in the ballpark of $20 million. Gilbert would have to gut the team with trades and LeBron would have to take a $5+ million dollar pay cut just make it realistic.
Yep. As I said earlier, LeBron has to take a ~$20M over the next two seasons for this to work. I don't see Wade giving up that much at this point of his career. IMO, he'll take the $40M/2 yrs the Heat are offering him.


If this all has any legs, I just hope this move would not be at the expense of not signing JR. He clearly fits the starting lineup much better than Wade and currently plays better D.
You didn't watch the PO's, did you?

Heck, even stats back up my point. JR was a net negative defender in the PO's. Players shot 46.5% against him, compared to their usual 45.2%. Wade, on the other hand, held his defensive covers to 41.1%, compared to their usual 43.6%. You really can't be serious comparing Wade to JR. Wade literally was just the best player on a 48 win team and carried them to G7 against a 56 win Raptors, in the ECSF. 21/6/4/1/1 on 46% in the PO's.

Dray n Klay
07-05-2016, 05:09 AM
Y
Heck, even stats back up my point. JR was a net negative defender in the PO's. Players shot 46.5% against him, compared to their usual 45.2%. Wade, on the other hand, held his defensive covers to 41.1%, compared to their usual 43.6%. You really can't be serious comparing Wade to JR. Wade literally was just the best player on a 48 win team and carried them to G7 against a 56 win Raptors, in the ECSF. 21/6/4/1/1 on 46% in the PO's.


Wade is inconsistent in the playoffs.

How do we know he will play like he did in 2016, and not the 2013 and 2014 Wade in the playoffs?

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 05:11 AM
Wade is inconsistent in the playoffs.

How do we know he will play like he did in 2016, and not the 2013 and 2014 Wade in the playoffs?
They will have to take that risk if they want to pull off the most improbable championship win in the history of sports since last year.

D-Wait
07-05-2016, 05:16 AM
Yep. As I said earlier, LeBron has to take a ~$20M over the next two seasons for this to work. I don't see Wade giving up that much at this point of his career. IMO, he'll take the $40M/2 yrs the Heat are offering him.


You didn't watch the PO's, did you?

Heck, even stats back up my point. JR was a net negative defender in the PO's. Players shot 46.5% against him, compared to their usual 45.2%. Wade, on the other hand, held his defensive covers to 41.1%, compared to their usual 43.6%. You really can't be serious comparing Wade to JR. Wade literally was just the best player on a 48 win team and carried them to G7 against a 56 win Raptors, in the ECSF. 21/6/4/1/1 on 46% in the PO's.

I know that Wade is the better player in a vacuum. I should have clarified that I see JR as a better fit in the starting lineup because of his 3-point shot and the fact that he doesn't need the ball to be effective. (With Lebron and Kyrie being so ball-dominant) As far as his defense goes, I remember him getting burned by Derozan in the ECF. I was thinking of his defense on Klay though.

IllegalD
07-05-2016, 05:28 AM
Can you imagine Lebron and Wade having more rings than Kobe? Remember back in the day when that pathetic Kobe fanbase always uses the rings comparison.


Can you imagine you going a single day without posting about Kobe and coming off as the most insecure b*tch on this board? Remember back in the day when your pathetic ass said you were 1 year away from graduating lawschool and now you sell shrimp to rich college students out of your bicycle?

:yaohappy: :hammertime: :lebronamazed:

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 05:28 AM
unlikely but would be cool to see happen.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 05:30 AM
Can you imagine you going a single day without posting about Kobe and coming off as the most insecure b*tch on this board? Remember back in the day when your pathetic ass said you were 1 year away from graduating lawschool and now you sell shrimp to rich college students out of your bicycle?

:yaohappy: :hammertime: :lebronamazed:
Can you imagine going a single post without using ad homs?
Shows how shook you are to see your idol being used as a punchline

aj1987
07-05-2016, 05:47 AM
Wade is inconsistent in the playoffs.

How do we know he will play like he did in 2016, and not the 2013 and 2014 Wade in the playoffs?
Yeah, because JR is the model of consistency, right? What did he average in the Finals? Like 10 points on 40%?

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 05:52 AM
Yeah, because JR is the model of consistency, right? What did he average in the Finals? Like 10 points on 40%?
He came up clutch when they needed em

IllegalD
07-05-2016, 05:53 AM
Can you imagine going a single post without using ad homs?
Shows how shook you are to see your idol being used as a punchline


Can you go a single week without creating a new alt to melt down on, Simon?

Shows how pathetic a 20-something year old virgin, inbred from Wichita with no HS diploma who still lives with his mom is

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 05:56 AM
Can you go a single week without creating a new alt to melt down on, Simon?

Shows how pathetic a 20-something year old virgin, inbred from Wichita with no HS diploma who still lives with his mom is
Who's simon, whoever he is must have done some very psychological damage to you and your idol, nothing but rent free.
:lol

IllegalD
07-05-2016, 05:56 AM
Who's simon, whoever he is must have done some very psychological damage to you and your idol, nothing but rent free.
:lol


Kinda like those black guys that bullied you and stuffed you into your locker and prevented you from graduating? :confusedshrug:

aj1987
07-05-2016, 06:03 AM
He came up clutch when they needed em
He had like 10 points in the 4th Q's total in their 4 wins. The majority of which came in G6 after the game was pretty much over.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 06:04 AM
Kinda like those black guys that bullied you and stuffed you into your locker and prevented you from graduating? :confusedshrug:
Idk what you're talking about lol, but like i said rent free.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 06:05 AM
He had like 10 points in the 4th Q's total in their 4 wins. The majority of which came in G6 after the game was pretty much over.
He hit 2 back to back 3s when they were down 7 in the 3rd. warriors were about to run away with the game.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 06:08 AM
He hit 2 back to back 3s when they were down 7 in the 3rd. warriors were about to run away with the game.
First 3 came when the Cavs were up 9 with 6:40 left.
2nd 3 came when the Cavs were up 13 with 4:00 left.

What are you even arguing though? JR is inconsistent AF and that's just a fact. Wade is still an All-Star level player and was the best player on a 48 win team. JR at his PEAK wasn't close to being on that level.

SpaceJam
07-05-2016, 06:08 AM
Can you imagine Lebron and Wade having more rings than Kobe? Remember back in the day when that pathetic Kobe fanbase always uses the rings comparison.

I don't understand you at all:oldlol:

I see you in threads complaining about kobetards bringing up Kobe, and then I see you in your threads bringing up Kobe like this :roll:

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 06:10 AM
First 3 came when the Cavs were up 9 with 6:40 left.
2nd 3 came when the Cavs were up 13 with 4:00 left.

What are you even arguing though? JR is inconsistent AF and that's just a fact. Wade is still an All-Star level player and was the best player on a 48 win team. JR at his PEAK wasn't close to being on that level.
Talking bout game 7

aj1987
07-05-2016, 06:14 AM
Talking bout game 7
That was at the beginning of the 3rd quarter. Now we're calling shots form the 2nd Q and the 3rd Q clutch as well?

IllegalD
07-05-2016, 06:19 AM
I don't understand you at all:oldlol:

I see you in threads complaining about kobetards bringing up Kobe, and then I see you in your threads bringing up Kobe like this :roll:


Gets it. :applause:

Dude is super insecure and loses sleep over the fact that Kobe is a GOD in his nation and LeBron isn't.

:roll:

2swift4u
07-05-2016, 06:24 AM
Wade to Cleveland is not going to happen. He might have been on that plane because Lebron is his buddy, that's it. Wouldn't make any sense at all to me. Cleveland doesn't need another guy that needs the ball in his hands and Wade will most likely end his career in Miami anyway.

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 06:24 AM
Gets it. :applause:

Dude is super insecure and loses sleep over the fact that Kobe is a GOD in his nation and LeBron isn't.

:roll:
If you're so secure with your idol why do you feel the need to use ad homs when debating with opposers and discredit anyone that is accomplished more than him?

TheWinningFam
07-05-2016, 06:25 AM
That was at the beginning of the 3rd quarter. Now we're calling shots form the 2nd Q and the 3rd Q clutch as well?
Hitting back to back threes when you're down 7 and in danger of losing by blowout is clutch.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 06:29 AM
Hitting back to back threes when you're down 7 and in danger of losing by blowout is clutch.
Cool. JR made 2 shots in the beginning of the 3rd Q. That consistency and clutchness... :applause: :applause:

Again, what are you arguing?

Gileraracer
07-05-2016, 06:29 AM
Why shouldn't the Colluder collude again?

Spurs m8
07-05-2016, 06:33 AM
Wade wants money...Cavs can't even afford this, can they?

Bobcats2013
07-05-2016, 06:36 AM
Wade wants money...Cavs can't even afford this, can they?

they can but bron gotta take a big pay cut

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 06:39 AM
The pilot of the private jet, was my father.

2swift4u
07-05-2016, 06:40 AM
Wade wants money...Cavs can't even afford this, can they?

yes he does and no they can't. this is not going to happen

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 06:42 AM
They will do sign & trade, Wade for JR Smith. Match the salaries.

Wade gotta find a team that will do that for him.

IllegalD
07-05-2016, 07:31 AM
If you're so secure with your idol why do you feel the need to use ad homs when debating with opposers and discredit anyone that is accomplished more than him?


Why are you and all the Simon alts the only posters that constantly uses the term "ad homs" to try to deflect?

HMMMMMMMM..... #patterns

:lol :roll: :yaohappy: :hammertime:

Mr Feeny
07-05-2016, 07:41 AM
If you're so secure with your idol why do you feel the need to use ad homs when debating with opposers and discredit anyone that is accomplished more than him?

His idol is already atleast 9 spots behind lebron on the all time list.
Curry and Durant are both leapfrogging him as soon as this coming summer in curry's case and 3 years from now in Durant's case.

What do you expect :lebronamazed:
His idol's legacy is in tatters. Further and further down the list he falls! :banana:

PP34Deuce
07-05-2016, 09:31 AM
Wade wants more money. Lebron is all about getting his friends and teammates paid so I can absolutely see him helping Wade with leverage.

Pat Riley is smart, you don't want to offer a huge thank you contract to a guy that can break down any minute and has nothing else to prove, but Wade has been there since day 1 over good and bad times.

Tough situation. The 20 mill a year for 2 years is not a bad deal but if wade feels he can get more years (3-4 years) and more overall money, I'm not mad at him. It's his retirement check.

miggyme1
07-05-2016, 10:31 AM
Wade wants more money. Lebron is all about getting his friends and teammates paid so I can absolutely see him helping Wade with leverage.

Pat Riley is smart, you don't want to offer a huge thank you contract to a guy that can break down any minute and has nothing else to prove, but Wade has been there since day 1 over good and bad times.

Tough situation. The 20 mill a year for 2 years is not a bad deal but if wade feels he can get more years (3-4 years) and more overall money, I'm not mad at him. It's his retirement check.

I find it funny that people think a soon to be 35 year old bball players manin focus is still money.


Lets remember wade and LeBron BOTH have 3 rings now.....im almost certain wade isn't too jovial about that....lets remember athletes are arguably the most competitive people on the planet.

Do people really think wade will take the 2yr/40 mill to waste his final 2 years on a average team??

Last year showed us that wade still has about a half tank of gas left....what he did in Game 6 against the hornets was nothing short of BREATHTAKING.

Wade isn't dumb...why waste the little bit of gas you have left on a team that ISNT contending and you will be required to do SOME heavy lifting or go to team up with LEBRON,KYRIE AND LOVE and possibly be the answer to what just transpired with Durant joining the warriors and possibly extend your career for ANOTHER contract. Im just saying

L.Kizzle
07-05-2016, 10:39 AM
Wade just gonna leave Chris Bosh?

Meticode
07-05-2016, 10:40 AM
Rumors are swirling that the Cavs are in early talks with how to try to acquire Wade. Some ideas thrown around is Love would have to get traded for someone of less value to fill his role, almost all Cavs fans are against this (including me). Also there would be a good possibility Frye and Shumpert would have to get moved, which tehy easily could because they're contracts are good and they have a ton of basketball left in them.

Also most certainly LeBron and Wade would have to take pay cuts. Which seems kind of weird considering Wade has made it clear he wants to get paid after getting low-balled by Miami at around $10 million, then they offered $40 more for two years.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 10:41 AM
Wade just gonna leave Chris Bosh?
No one knows if Bosh is even going to be able to play anymore honestly. They have to figure out how he can play with blood thinners. Which is dangerous to begin with.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 10:47 AM
Rumors are swirling that the Cavs are in early talks with how to try to acquire Wade. Some ideas thrown around is Love would have to get traded for someone of less value to fill his role, almost all Cavs fans are against this (including me). Also there would be a good possibility Frye and Shumpert would have to get moved, which tehy easily could because they're contracts are good and they have a ton of basketball left in them.

Also most certainly LeBron and Wade would have to take pay cuts. Which seems kind of weird considering Wade has made it clear he wants to get paid after getting low-balled by Miami at around $10 million, then they offered $40 more for two years.
The Cavs won't sign Wade for sure. Trading Love for an good defensive PF, who can shoot the occasional 3 might not be a bad idea for the Cavs though.

ArbitraryWater
07-05-2016, 10:48 AM
The Cavs won't sign Wade for sure. Trading Love for an good defensive PF, who can shoot the occasional 3 might not be a bad idea for the Cavs though.

defensive PF who can shoot the occasional 3?? Who would that be? :roll:

r15mohd
07-05-2016, 10:50 AM
Giving up JR for Wade is a step back to me - JR provides a lot of flexibility for the Cavs with his range, and the Cavs have 2 great playmakers in Lebron and Kyrie. Wade isn't really needed on this team outside of a bench role to sure up the second unit, as I wouldn't even switch JR in the starting lineup for Wade since it allows the spacing more so than Wade could provide

Guys like Speights and Barbosa, ironically, would fit the team better rather than Wade would overall IMO

tmacattack33
07-05-2016, 10:52 AM
I don't like it.

Wade was never a good fit for Lebron. Both can't shoot and both need the ball. Go get Kawhi or something.

Lebron and Wade are apparently best friends, but they must realize this.

Kiddlovesnets
07-05-2016, 10:54 AM
I don't like it.

Wade was never a good fit for Lebron. Both can't shoot and both need the ball. Go get Kawhi or something.

Lebron and Wade are apparently best friends, but they must realize this.

Well Spurs wont trade Kawhi even for Lebron/Curry/Durant...

Meticode
07-05-2016, 10:57 AM
LeBatard was on ESPN radio and said he's concerned about Wade leaving. Wade has no communication with the Heat at the moment and on the Cavs side we are hearing nothing from them as if they're working on something behind the scenes.

"The Dwyane Wade problems are real. The relationship with the Heat has never been in a most dangerous place." - @LeBatardShow

More Le Batard: "Dwyane Wade doesn't trust the Miami Heat. All this drama was happening while he was on vacation with... Lebron James."

"We're close to the breaking point. I've heard no indication that Wade has rejected the Miami offer. If he does, Miami has nowhere to go."

"Wade wants the Kobe contract, and i don't think the Heat will go for that."

"Wade's camp is looking to manipulate the situation. Wade's not talking to the Heat. There's not a back and forth."

miggyme1
07-05-2016, 10:57 AM
Rumors are swirling that the Cavs are in early talks with how to try to acquire Wade. Some ideas thrown around is Love would have to get traded for someone of less value to fill his role, almost all Cavs fans are against this (including me). Also there would be a good possibility Frye and Shumpert would have to get moved, which tehy easily could because they're contracts are good and they have a ton of basketball left in them.

Also most certainly LeBron and Wade would have to take pay cuts. Which seems kind of weird considering Wade has made it clear he wants to get paid after getting low-balled by Miami at around $10 million, then they offered $40 more for two years.


you guys are stupid....love did nothing until game 7 of the nba finals...channing fyre had more of an impact during the cavs playoff run than love...lets just be honest

ralph_i_el
07-05-2016, 11:00 AM
Just to help ease any concern, ain't no way in hell Gabby is moving to Cleveland.

Who says he has to move his fam? NBA season isn't all year and hes travelling half that time anyways.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 11:01 AM
Durant going to Golden State is changing the NBA. I think if Durant didn't go to the Warriors Wade wouldn't even be talking to the Cavs right now.

Flower_
07-05-2016, 11:02 AM
JR is not leaving. LeBron is besically his agent. If LeBron wants DWade then he has to take pay cut and then sign max next year.

KLove is not leaving too. No way they would sacrifice KLove for 35yo Wade.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 11:03 AM
you guys are stupid....love did nothing until game 7 of the nba finals...channing fyre had more of an impact during the cavs playoff run than love...lets just be honest
Thank you. I appreciate your honesty.

r15mohd
07-05-2016, 11:04 AM
you guys are stupid....love did nothing until game 7 of the nba finals...channing fyre had more of an impact during the cavs playoff run than love...lets just be honest

The matchup just wasn't working for the Cavs with love during the finals, and there was also the concussion woes - and that happens, just look at how the dubs replaced Bogut last year and got them the title.

Love has been pretty solid outside of this, overall - he's not a bad player for this team, but it just leaves the question -- will he step up for another finals meeting, or is it best to just part ways in hopes another player can be most beneficial?

Meticode
07-05-2016, 11:04 AM
JR is not leaving. LeBron is besically his agent. If LeBron wants DWade then he has to take pay cut and then sign max next year.

KLove is not leaving too. No way they would sacrifice KLove for 35yo Wade.
It's not Love for Wade straight up. They'd trade Love to some other team to shred his contract, but get something of value to put in his place.

Kingwillball
07-05-2016, 11:05 AM
Giving up JR for Wade is a step back to me - JR provides a lot of flexibility for the Cavs with his range, and the Cavs have 2 great playmakers in Lebron and Kyrie. Wade isn't really needed on this team outside of a bench role to sure up the second unit, as I wouldn't even switch JR in the starting lineup for Wade since it allows the spacing more so than Wade could provide

Guys like Speights and Barbosa, ironically, would fit the team better rather than Wade would overall IMO


No I think JR comes back it would be more like giving up Shump for Wade.. I rather have JR as well cause he stretches D for Irving and but Wade when Healthy is a better playmaker and obviously better in transition and attacking defense plus better passer. With that said Wade makes them better team if most they were losing was Shumpert.

Lebron will not stand pat he is gonna bring in the reinforcements whether its Wade or to Trade Love to better compliment team or both..

Meticode
07-05-2016, 11:05 AM
The fact we've heard nothing out of the Cavs, that LeBron hasn't resigned yet and Wade isn't communicating with the Heat tells me they're probably trying to work out the logistics of it actually happening.

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 11:08 AM
Rumors are swirling that the Cavs are in early talks with how to try to acquire Wade. Some ideas thrown around is Love would have to get traded for someone of less value to fill his role, almost all Cavs fans are against this (including me). Also there would be a good possibility Frye and Shumpert would have to get moved, which tehy easily could because they're contracts are good and they have a ton of basketball left in them.

Also most certainly LeBron and Wade would have to take pay cuts. Which seems kind of weird considering Wade has made it clear he wants to get paid after getting low-balled by Miami at around $10 million, then they offered $40 more for two years.



same team is not winning man, not with Golden State getting Durant.
At this point its a lock we facing Golden State in finals, the goal is to adjust to golden state.Even if it might cost us in the other matchups in east.But we are making thru anyway in east.

highwhey
07-05-2016, 11:14 AM
is it really worth to get wade if love and fry are moved? the guy is 34. what were his stats last year?

i feel that for the cost plus the players that will be moved, wade isn't a great value...he may be for a year or 2, but what about when he's 36?

Meticode
07-05-2016, 11:16 AM
same team is not winning man, not with Golden State getting Durant.
At this point its a lock we facing Golden State in finals, the goal is to adjust to golden state.Even if it might cost us in the other matchups in east.But we are making thru anyway in east.
I've learned something. Anything can happen. Even I thought the Cavs being down 3-1 would lose. It didn't happen. This team with Durant hasn't' even stepped on the court yet. We don't know what injuries will occur, who the team is going to mesh together, who is going to take less shots and be okay with it.

highwhey
07-05-2016, 11:19 AM
the way i see it, the cavs roster will have to be skinned/trimmed to accommodate wade's salary. the roster as it stands, is/was already barebones when you factor in the performances during the playoffs...kyrie being the exception.

trimming it down further for a 34 year old guard?

idk...:(

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 11:19 AM
is it really worth to get wade if love and fry are moved? the guy is 34. what were his stats last year?

i feel that for the cost plus the players that will be moved, wade isn't a great value...he may be for a year or 2, but what about when he's 36?


We might be attractive place to take in another star by that time or maybe not. But basketball is played in the now, I am thinking next year not 3 years later. 3 years later Lebron is 34.

highwhey
07-05-2016, 11:24 AM
We might be attractive place to take in another star by that time or maybe not. But basketball is played in the now, I am thinking next year not 3 years later. 3 years later Lebron is 34.
i just think the cavs should be seeking pieces to make the team a more well rounded team - something that lebron has never had but been successful despite the fact. however, the gsw will be a new beast that lebron has never encountered. being guard/permiter heavy sounds good on paper, but who knows.

are there any centers on the market? any elite defenders?

what does wade provide that kyrie doesn't?

Flower_
07-05-2016, 11:29 AM
Brian Windhorst
‏@WindhorstESPN

Dwyane Wade has canceled some free agent meetings with teams he'd set up with this week, sources said.


Well. We will know what's going on sooner than later.

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 12:08 PM
i just think the cavs should be seeking pieces to make the team a more well rounded team - something that lebron has never had but been successful despite the fact. however, the gsw will be a new beast that lebron has never encountered. being guard/permiter heavy sounds good on paper, but who knows.

are there any centers on the market? any elite defenders?

what does wade provide that kyrie doesn't?


Wade not for Kyrie, but for JR.
My post from the other thread.
JR is better 3 point shooter then Wade, but Wade is the superior player in attacking the rim. Against Golden State you need the second, not the first. Golden State dont have rim protection, so you gotta abuse them there. Shooting 3s is playing to Golden State hands.


This will make Cavs worse maybe in other series out East, but Cavs are making the finals in the east without JR or Wade.

miggyme1
07-05-2016, 12:17 PM
Wade not for Kyrie, but for JR.
My post from the other thread.
JR is better 3 point shooter then Wade, but Wade is the superior player in attacking the rim. Against Golden State you need the second, not the first. Golden State dont have rim protection, so you gotta abuse them there. Shooting 3s is playing to Golden State hands.


This will make Cavs worse maybe in other series out East, but Cavs are making the finals in the east without JR or Wade.



do people on here pull shit out their ass at the drop of a hat here??

jr isn't going naywhere...it will be SHUMPERT IF WADE DECIDES TO JOIN THE CAVS.

SECOND who the fucc told you wade is better at getting to the rim than jr???? if anything its a wash.....you want a player like wade because of his IQ and because he is a leader and a winner.....that's what wade has that jr lacks...not driving to the damn rim...did you watch the cavs play any last season?

Meticode
07-05-2016, 12:20 PM
LeBatard is going f*cking nuts. :oldlol:


Dan Le Batard - Risk that Milwaukee or Denver has a prearranged deal with Cleveland to sign Wade and trade him to Cleveland after December 15th

VengefulAngel
07-05-2016, 12:23 PM
LeBatard is going f*cking nuts. :oldlol:

I actually had the same thought when the Bucks signed Delly without any consideration of matching.

To be honest I want D wade to be a heat lifer but also would really love to see the dynamic between Wade, Kyrie and Lebron.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 12:27 PM
I actually had the same thought when Lebron the Bucks signed Delly without any consideration of matching.

To be honest I want D wade to be a heat lifer but also would really love to see the dynamic between Wade, Kyrie and Lebron.
It makes me hate Durant's decision even more. I don't think we're even discussing Wade to Cleveland if Durant goes anywhere else, but Golden State.

Nash
07-05-2016, 12:31 PM
why would Cavs want Wade?
another ball handler, aged 34?

and why would Wade want to leave Miami and all of the millions they can offer him?

If Wade wants to compete and get paid, he should join the Spurs.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 12:31 PM
why would Cavs want Wade?
another ball handler, aged 34?

and why would Wade want to leave Miami and all of the millions they can offer him?

If Wade wants to compete and get paid, he should join the Spurs.
The answer to all your questions is LeBron.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 12:32 PM
Also some reports are saying Wade is still on vacation in Spain and hasn't left. He even Snapchatted while still in Spain.

highwhey
07-05-2016, 12:33 PM
why would Cavs want Wade?
another ball handler, aged 34?

and why would Wade want to leave Miami and all of the millions they can offer him?

If Wade wants to compete and get paid, he should join the Spurs.
Damn...wade on the spurs? Would he buy into the system tho?

Find out in the next episode of Dragonball Z.

miggyme1
07-05-2016, 12:46 PM
I actually had the same thought when the Bucks signed Delly without any consideration of matching.

To be honest I want D wade to be a heat lifer but also would really love to see the dynamic between Wade, Kyrie and Lebron.


whats with all this lifer shit?? like whats the honor in wasting your last years on a team that's not competing for rings?? I don't get some of you people....its like we despise people for wanting to win and joining "SUPER TEAMS" then we despise people for not winning but HEY HE WAS A LIFER. SMH

to my knowledge the heat don't have one lifer yet...wade would be the first....I really don't see an honor in that..heat still aren't A household franchise and once wade retires south beach will be a destination for spring breakers and young ball players to go and get laid after each game. Nobody took Miami seriously until they got shaq...wade happened to be a very good player that was lucky enough to build a friendship with arguably the greatest player of the 21st century...wade doesn't build that friendship with bron and the heat are still looking at that one lonely ring from 06. FACTS

Meticode
07-05-2016, 01:04 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, but Austin Carr's son has been posting on Facebook about this and he says a deal has been done to get Wade to the Cavs. :oldlol:

miggyme1
07-05-2016, 01:09 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, but Austin Carr's son has been posting on Facebook about this and he says a deal has been done to get Wade to the Cavs. :oldlol:
who is Austin carr?

Meticode
07-05-2016, 01:10 PM
I got bored in Photoshop...

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Meticode/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers_zpssii3qwvm.jpg

VengefulAngel
07-05-2016, 01:15 PM
I got bored in Photoshop...

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Meticode/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers_zpssii3qwvm.jpg

Seems as if these reports are false. Still doesn't rule out him joining Cleveland but these timeline of events aren't correct.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 01:16 PM
Seems as if these reports are false. Still doesn't rule out him joining Cleveland but these timeline of events aren't correct.
Oh yea, I'm fully expecting him to sign with Miami. I'm just having fun.

VengefulAngel
07-05-2016, 01:19 PM
Oh yea, I'm fully expecting him to sign with Miami. I'm just having fun.

Haha all good, the fact that Cleveland could add a player of the caliber of Wade and still not be favourites having won the title the year before tells you how ridiculous it was that Durant joined the Warriors. I was thinking that it would be almost impossible to hand pick a better team without using any members on the GSW.

Nash
07-05-2016, 01:24 PM
The answer to all your questions is LeBron.
yeah, the only thing lebron can do about this is take the min vet, let Wade get 2 year 50m deal before Lebron gets his 200m deal.

Kingwillball
07-05-2016, 01:25 PM
Haha all good, the fact that Cleveland could add a player of the caliber of Wade and still not be favourites having won the title the year before tells you how ridiculous it was that Durant joined the Warriors. I was thinking that it would be almost impossible to hand pick a better team without using any members on the GSW.

I could throw something together using another 3-5 PGs like CP3, Irving, Westbrook ect SG Harden, Lebron , Davis, KAT

Hotlantadude81
07-05-2016, 01:25 PM
NBA is seriously better than ever. The drama is fantastic.

Cavs vs. Warriors.

In 30 years people will talk about the Cavs/Warriors rivalry of the late 2010's.

What a time.

All you have to do is watch the finals. The rest is worthless.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 01:54 PM
yeah, the only thing lebron can do about this is take the min vet, let Wade get 2 year 50m deal before Lebron gets his 200m deal.
:rockon:

chazzy
07-05-2016, 01:56 PM
If Wade signs for the minimum or something, that's almost just as much of a bitch move as what Durant did. At least KD signed for his market value and GS had to drop Barnes Bogut and Ezeli to get him. Wade copping out for the min after all this drama about not getting enough money in Miami would be hilarious :oldlol:

Meticode
07-05-2016, 02:10 PM
Really weird shit is going on. Windy posted the story about Wade wanting $50 million, but Miami is only offering $40 million. Then after this story was posted the Cavaliers official Tweeter feed followed Wade, then Wade followed the Cavs on Instagram. :oldlol:

Kingwillball
07-05-2016, 02:12 PM
Really weird shit is going on. Windy posted the story about Wade wanting $50 million, but Miami is only offering $40 million. Then after this story was posted the Cavaliers official Tweeter feed followed Wade, then Wade followed the Cavs. :oldlol:


Too Much Smoke not to be fire.. It started IMO with his Cryptic message yesterday after KD joined Warriors saying "Relationships are important people" to me that was first sign of something may be brewing.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 02:14 PM
:oldlol: People on RCF said "Windy said it won't happen, which means it will happen." :roll:

Meticode
07-05-2016, 02:16 PM
Now Wade has followed J.R. Smith on Instagram. :oldlol:

Meticode
07-05-2016, 02:17 PM
Either something is happening, or LeBron and Wade got together to troll Miami to force them to make him a higher offer. :lol

Meticode
07-05-2016, 02:20 PM
They official Cleveland Indians Twitter account followed Wade. :oldlol:

PJR
07-05-2016, 02:22 PM
Wade's my favorite player of all time, and I believe the Heat should move on at this point.


Josh Richardson and Justise Winslow are the future. Wade's not getting that Kobe deal in Miami. Sorry bud.

Magic 32
07-05-2016, 02:23 PM
Stay Wade.

Be part of the previous generation. Kobe, Duncan and Dirk.

Don't become a mercenary like the next gen.



(And I don't even think he is going make that big of a difference for the Cavs chances).

inclinerator
07-05-2016, 02:24 PM
wade is old as fk

PJR
07-05-2016, 02:27 PM
Stay Wade.

Be part of the previous generation. Kobe, Duncan and Dirk.

Don't become a mercenary like the next gen.



(And I don't even think he is going make that big of a difference for the Cavs chances).

Too late. LeBron has Wade's ear. He's become the diva I feared.


Riley will move on if he has to.

Ben Simmons
07-05-2016, 02:30 PM
Wade's my favorite player of all time, and I believe the Heat should move on at this point.


Josh Richardson and Justise Winslow are the future. Wade's not getting that Kobe deal in Miami. Sorry bud.
What are you talking about? Warriors guareented next 5 chips. Who cares what Wade gets paid?

Trollsmasher
07-05-2016, 02:31 PM
Bron and Wade are probably still sitting on that boat in Spain and having a giggle over idiots tracking planes and followers on twitter:lol

Kingwillball
07-05-2016, 02:33 PM
Not saying its happening but getting Wade for Cavs In finals would be problem for GS cause Steph would have to guard KI all the Time or if they switched Klay on KI, Wade would abuse Steph in Post.

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 02:47 PM
Wade can sign with Nuggets, and via sign & trade come to the Cavs.
We got trade exception or we can throw Shumpert.

chazzy
07-05-2016, 02:53 PM
Wade can sign with Nuggets, and via sign & trade come to the Cavs.
We got trade exception or we can throw Shumpert.
Can't trade right away

SilkkTheShocker
07-05-2016, 02:53 PM
Wade can sign with Nuggets, and via sign & trade come to the Cavs.
We got trade exception or we can throw Shumpert.

Fantasies.

KingPush
07-05-2016, 02:59 PM
People saying they don't have money for wade but Lebron has a ****ing billion dollar deal with Nike. He can take a pay cut so Wade can get paid

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

FireDavidKahn
07-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Wade's broken down and a shell of his former self. He'll help the Cavs, but he isn't going to improve them that much.

Nike D'Antoni
07-05-2016, 03:53 PM
Wade's broken down and a shell of his former self. He'll help the Cavs, but he isn't going to improve them that much.


He will be here in cleveland for the finals, he knows it and he wants to play finals. not waste time in regular season.

DMAVS41
07-05-2016, 03:54 PM
Wade's broken down and a shell of his former self. He'll help the Cavs, but he isn't going to improve them that much.

He's better than Shump...worse than JR Smith for the Cavs.

KingPush
07-05-2016, 04:03 PM
Wade's broken down and a shell of his former self. He'll help the Cavs, but he isn't going to improve them that much.
Did you not see him vs Charlotte? Dude looked better than his last few years in Miami

FireDavidKahn
07-05-2016, 04:04 PM
Did you not see him vs Charlotte? Dude looked better than his last few years in Miami
I hate how people overreact to a couple games.

You have to look at his entire season to gauge where he really is at.

KingPush
07-05-2016, 04:05 PM
I hate how people overreact to a couple games.

You have to look at his entire season to gauge where he really is at.
So averaging 25/6/4 vs Toronto isnt anything special either? Dude was clearly coasting during the regular season

aj1987
07-05-2016, 04:06 PM
defensive PF who can shoot the occasional 3?? Who would that be? :roll:
Ideal would be Bosh (hypothetically), but you're right. There's literally no one.

If there's ever even a tiny AF bit of chance, they should trade for Millsap.


Too late. LeBron has Wade's ear. He's become the diva I feared.


Riley will move on if he has to.
I wouldn't be mad either ways, but I prefer Wade chasing money instead of titles.

D-Wait
07-05-2016, 04:11 PM
If there's ever even a tiny AF bit of chance, they should trade for Millsap.

And they won't. They not gonna trade a 27 year old, more offensively polished player on a good contract for Millsap on the wrong side of 30, even if he would be a defensive upgrade.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 04:13 PM
And they won't. They not gonna trade a 27 year old, more offensively polished player on a good contract for Millsap on the wrong side of 30, even if he would be a defensive upgrade.
Millsap is an elite defender and would be a significantly better fit. Love is just wrong on this team. I like the dude and I've always supported him, but this is not the team for him. In fact, Love would be AMAZING on the Jazz.



I hate how people overreact to a couple games.

You have to look at his entire season to gauge where he really is at.
19/4/5/1/1 on 47% in the RS 21/4/5/1/1 on 47% in the PO's with good defense. Dude was unbelievable in the PO's. Clutch AF and carried the team to G7 of the ECSF.

D-Wait
07-05-2016, 04:19 PM
Millsap is an elite defender and would be a significantly better fit. Love is just wrong on this team. I like the dude and I've always supported him, but this is not the team for him. In fact, Love would be AMAZING on the Jazz.

yeah, I'm not against a Love trade. I also wanted to sign Millsap in Free Agency in 2013, I really like him. I just think the Cavs will not break up this core with Love being only 27 still having a long career ahead of him.

aj1987
07-05-2016, 04:27 PM
yeah, I'm not against a Love trade. I also wanted to sign Millsap in Free Agency in 2013, I really like him. I just think the Cavs will not break up this core with Love being only 27 still having a long career ahead of him.
Agreed. It's just my opinion. I believe Millsap is a significantly better FIT on this team than Love. :cheers:

RRR3
07-05-2016, 04:50 PM
Millsap would be amazing in Cleveland. Heat will take Love off the Cavs hands. 3 team trade. Atlanta can have Dragic

francesco totti
07-05-2016, 04:51 PM
Millsap would be amazing in Cleveland. Heat will take Love off the Cavs hands. 3 team trade. Atlanta can have Dragic


lol. no way . millsap >>> love >>> dragic.
so miami, cavs gotta throw more.

Meticode
07-05-2016, 05:34 PM
Very cryptic Tweets coming from Carmelo Anthony...

Carmelo Anthony ‏@carmeloanthony 3h3 hours ago
Surround yourself with people that make you smile #Brotherhood @KingJames #StayMe7o

https://twitter.com/carmeloanthony/status/750400552165597185

KingPush
07-05-2016, 05:37 PM
Very cryptic Tweets coming from Carmelo Anthony...

Carmelo Anthony ‏@carmeloanthony 3h3 hours ago
Surround yourself with people that make you smile #Brotherhood @KingJames #StayMe7o

https://twitter.com/carmeloanthony/status/750400552165597185
Lebron and Wade to the Knicks

Meticode
07-05-2016, 05:39 PM
Lebron and Wade to the Knicks
I know, that's what I was thinking. :oldlol: If that were to happen man, Rich Paul is so sly. He's been telling teams LeBron is staying with the Cavs.