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jlip
07-05-2016, 02:38 PM
In the summer of 1982, Moses Malone was considered by many to be the best player in the game. He had won two of the previous four NBA MVP awards, was the best rebounder in the league, and finished second in scoring during the 1982 season. In 1981 he overachieved and led his team to the NBA Finals against the Celtics. In route to the Finals Malone

jayfan
07-05-2016, 02:42 PM
Philly offered more than what Houston was willing to. Is that the case here?



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feyki
07-05-2016, 02:42 PM
No doubt .

ArbitraryWater
07-05-2016, 02:44 PM
yea

only case similar

97 bulls
07-05-2016, 02:53 PM
[QUOTE=jlip]In the summer of 1982, Moses Malone was considered by many to be the best player in the game. He had won two of the previous four NBA MVP awards, was the best rebounder in the league, and finished second in scoring during the 1982 season. In 1981 he overachieved and led his team to the NBA Finals against the Celtics. In route to the Finals Malone

Doctor K
07-05-2016, 02:55 PM
Yes



Tho 16 Warriors >>>>>>>>>>> 82 76ers

The 76ers won 58 games (which is good but not 73) but never won a title before with Dr.J. They were always not good enough. Moses pushed them over the top. This would be more like KD joining the Clippers.

La Frescobaldi
07-05-2016, 03:20 PM
Rox with Moses Malone did not overachieve.

It was a surprise but it wasn't like... what the Cavs just did, for example.

houston
07-05-2016, 03:23 PM
yes it was

great players want to play with great players that always been the case

NumberSix
07-05-2016, 03:32 PM
I don't see how this is even remotely similar to what Durant did. Durant left a great situation to join the team that beat him and his team. Where's the sport in that? The best player in the league did not leave to join the best team.

Here's examples comparable to what Durant did.

You can't please your wife so you bring in another man to help you.

You hunt for sport using a tank and GPS

You can't win a medal in the Olympics, so you compete in the Special Olympics
What Durant did is like Trump ditching the Republicans to be Hillary's VP.

97 bulls
07-05-2016, 04:12 PM
What Durant did is like Trump ditching the Republicans to be Hillary's VP.
Exactly. You just won the internet.

tmacattack33
07-05-2016, 04:16 PM
The Rockets did not knock the Sixers out of the playoffs in 1981.


So, you're about half way there. You found somebody who did one of the two things (1. Join a GOAT team 2. Join his opponents) that Durant did. Congrats. Keep searching.




(actually you are not exactly half way there, as 58 is not at all the equivalent of 73 wins...so, you are about 3/10th's of the way there, not 1/2)

jlip
07-05-2016, 04:31 PM
This thread was not about whether Moses Malone did the same, identical thing as KD or even LeBron in 2010. It was simply about whether he was ring chasing in his prime. Was he seeking the "easy road" to a championship instead of building a strong title contender where he was?

Gotterdammerung
07-05-2016, 05:47 PM
Jlip,
Moses Malone had played on weak teams his entire career, and only by overachieving, or going into supernova mode, could his team even go anywhere in the playoffs. He had his fill of losing, and decided to play for a bonafide contender in the Sixers.

At that point he already had enough accolades, was generally the best center in the league, and he knew he would be the reason the Sixers got over the hump (they had not won since 1967, and had lost three Finals (1976, 1980, 1982), and lost the Eastern conference Finals in 1981 to the eventual champion Celtics) because they did not have a true center to offset the Celtics' frontcourt or slow down the Lakers' Abdul Jabbar.

I think "ring-chasing" only applies to a veteran at the end of his career who goes to a championship contender like Karl Malone to the Lakers in 2003.

jlip
07-19-2016, 04:29 PM
Jlip,
Moses Malone had played on weak teams his entire career, and only by overachieving, or going into supernova mode, could his team even go anywhere in the playoffs. He had his fill of losing, and decided to play for a bonafide contender in the Sixers.

At that point he already had enough accolades, was generally the best center in the league, and he knew he would be the reason the Sixers got over the hump (they had not won since 1967, and had lost three Finals (1976, 1980, 1982), and lost the Eastern conference Finals in 1981 to the eventual champion Celtics) because they did not have a true center to offset the Celtics' frontcourt or slow down the Lakers' Abdul Jabbar.

I think "ring-chasing" only applies to a veteran at the end of his career who goes to a championship contender like Karl Malone to the Lakers in 2003.

I agree with you and have absolutely no problem with what Malone did. It was the right basketball decision and actually strengthened his legacy. I'm just wondering how Moses Malone would be viewed in 2016 if he did the same thing.

Odinn
07-20-2016, 04:24 AM
Philly played in 2 of last 3 NBA Finals before Moses' arrival. In that sense, yeah - it kinda look similar. But when we consider other things as well, the story isn't that similar IMO.

OKC had some quality besides KD. Moses led the Rockets to the NBA Finals all by himself. They had bunch of injured players in 1981. He needed to average 35+ ppg for b2b months so the Rockets could play in the playoffs(1982). http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272312
After Moses' departure Houston won 32 less games ffs. I don't think OKC will suffer from something like that. They won the lottery due to his departure. The team was just Moses.

And when Moses went to Philly, there wasn't a unclear situation about who was the top dog.

To me, it was like KG joining the Celtics rather than LeBron joining the Heat or KD joining the Warriors. Moses didn't join a team with equally impactful player. That's why he won b2b MVP awards in different teams.

fourkicks44
07-20-2016, 04:47 AM
[QUOTE=jlip]In the summer of 1982, Moses Malone was considered by many to be the best player in the game. He had won two of the previous four NBA MVP awards, was the best rebounder in the league, and finished second in scoring during the 1982 season. In 1981 he overachieved and led his team to the NBA Finals against the Celtics. In route to the Finals Malone

pauk
07-20-2016, 05:48 AM
Have no problem with that context, nothing similar to what Durant did... i have never in NBA history heard about a top 1-2 player immediately join the rival team (best in the nba) & player (best player) a month after he got his arse handed to him after being up 3-1, a 73 win team who (without Durant) won a championship & were some bucket/brick away from another one (without Durant) & who might win just as many games or more + championship the upcoming season again (without Durant)....

After what Durant just did ringchasing / colluding criteria levels are up to an all-time high...... its impossible to beat this...

Its like if Jordan in 80s joined Lakers/Celtics or better example would be actually joining the 89-90 prime Detroit "bad boy" Pistons... you know, doesnt make sense. Its not just the ringchasing, "cant beat em join em"... what takes the cake is that he joins the Pistons championship team immediately after they would beat the shit out of Jordan, literally, they would make him bleed... and cry... he would suffer mentally & physically... they hated eachother... like wtf?? Why? Is he plotting some secret revenge terrorist act? Cant possibly be that he would seriously join them to seriously play with them? How did they accept him anyways? Like did he bow down, kiss their shoes & proceed to go into a fetal position?

iamgine
07-20-2016, 06:10 AM
What Moses Malone did was much more similar to if James Harden join the Spurs than Durant to GSW.

GimmeThat
07-20-2016, 06:10 AM
no, he spent most of his time at home pounding some dirty ass ho

now to put the ball back on the OP's court. If such move was influenced by the hoes he'd been pounding (i.e. money driven at some point, then the ultimate finale of Love and Bread) what exactly does that say about them b*tches?

Haymaker
07-20-2016, 08:54 AM
What Durant did is like Trump ditching the Republicans to be Hillary's VP.

Boom