Is LeBron the only player in history to be the best player ever for TWO franchises?

[Fudge]

Cleveland Cavaliers:
1x champion
1x FMVP
2x NBA MVP
1x Scoring Champion

Miami Heat:
2x champion
2x FMVP
2x NBA MVP

Kareem would've been the closest, but he isn't the greatest Laker ever. Magic was.

[Bankaii]

Wade has an argument due to longevity, but Lebron accomplished way more in less time there.

Maybe Chris Paul?

[ScalsFan21]

It's a tough thing to call because there's a difference between being the best player to wear a certain uniform, or being the greatest member of that organization. Take the Yankees for instance... I mean hell, you have to at least put A-Rod in the discussion for best player to wear the uniform behind a select few guys, but he's not gonna even be remembered as a better Yankee than Jeter, who was objectively like half the player.

LeBron is probably the only player to double as both the best AND "greatest" player in the history of two different franchises, but I'm sure some Heat fan would make the case Wade > James in that regard because of the extra alpha ring and total time spent in Miami.

I think the fact that Wade now will not spend his entire career in Miami though is going to silence a LOT of those people. But not all.

[Kblaze8855]

Kareem and Wilt have cases.

[Fudge]

Maybe Chris Paul?
You may be right. :biggums:

Unless people consider Alonzo Mourning to be the greatest Hornet ever.

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron/CP3/Kareem

[KiiiiNG]

Durants gonna join him soon.

[Fudge]

LeBron/CP3/Kareem/Shaq
It's one or the other for one of these guys.

Would Shaq or Kareem be the greatest Laker ever to you?

[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron/CP3/Kareem/Shaq

So Kareem and Shaq for the same franchise?

[plowking]

Wade. Miami and Chicago.

[Glide2keva]

Lebron played for another team than Miami and Cavs?

[Akrazotile]

You could maybe argue VC for Raptors and Nets. Even tho Bosh and Kidd were probably the better players for each franchsie. But it's at least close enough to be worth mentioning.

[CelticBaller]

Kareem

[Young X]

Chris Paul. Hornets/Clippers.

[TheWinningFam]

No doubt lebron is the GOAT for 2 franchises and will soon be the overall GOAT.

[SilkkTheShocker]

So Kareem and Shaq for the same franchise?
My Mistake. Would go with Kareem.

[Glide2keva]

No doubt lebron is the GOAT for 2 franchises and will soon be the overall GOAT.
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:lol :oldlol: :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

My Mistake. Would go with Kareem.

I mean, you still make a valid point.. those 4 are all contenders, some will pick Kareem, others Shaq.

[NZStreetBaller]

What michael jordan??

[SilkkTheShocker]

I mean, you still make a valid point.. those 4 are all contenders, some will pick Kareem, others Shaq.
I went with Kareem because he got the ring in Milwaukee.

[Young X]

What michael jordan??Wes Unseld.

[Fudge]

What michael jordan??
Wes Unseld >>>>

Hell, even Gilbert Arenas >>> as a Wizard.

[SilkkTheShocker]

What michael jordan??

Even if we are just talking strictly wizards, he wasn't the best. Wall and Arenas both had more impact. Jordan had no playoff runs in Washington.

[Akrazotile]

Barkley is close with Sixers and Suns, altho not quite the greatest Sixer

[Marchesk]

Wilt: Warriors and Sixers

[knicksman]

Its all about respect bro. It means nothing if alphas view you as a bitch

[SamuraiSWISH]

Barkley is close with Sixers and Suns, altho not quite the greatest Sixer
He has an argument. Legit.

[sportjames23]

Being the best player in Cavs and Heat history ain't saying much. The only competition Bron has for both team really is Wade and Zo. The Cavs had very good players, but none you'd put on the 50 Greatest Players list.

[Smoke117]

meltdown you fukkin fakkot

[KiiiiNG]

meltdown you fukkin fakkot
One more drunken post from you and I'm reporting your miserable bitch-ass!

[Cleverness]

Shaq: Magic, Suns, and arguably Lakers/Celtics

[Prometheus]

He has an argument. Legit.

Absolutely zero case for Barkley over Wilt, Julius, or even Iverson as a 76er.

[sportjames23]

Absolutely zero case for Barkley over Wilt, Julius, or even Iverson as a 76er.

You ever see Chuck in Philly?

I'll give you Wilt, and maybe Dr. J. But all AI has over Chuck is scoring, and even then, Chuck could score with the best of him if he wanted to.

[Prometheus]

You ever see Chuck in Philly?

I'll give you Wilt, and maybe Dr. J. But all AI has over Chuck is scoring, and even then, Chuck could score with the best of him if he wanted to.

No no I'm not saying Iverson was a better basketball player, but he was a greater 76er. It comes down to how you view the question.

The other two are just point blank.

[Fudge]

One more drunken post from you and I'm reporting your miserable bitch-ass!
:roll:

[GrapeApe]

Wade is CLEARLY the greatest player in Heat history. Just because he left doesn't change that. He completely dominates the Heat's record book. All time franchise leader in games, minutes, wins, FGA's, FG's, points, assists, steals, WS, playoff games, minutes, wins, series wins, FGA's, FG's, points, assists, steals, WS, blocks, series wins, finals appearances, championships won, all-star selections, and all-NBA selections. He's also 2nd all-time in regular season blocks, 4th in rebounds, and 3rd in playoff rebounds.

Wade brought the Heat their first title and he was the primary reason Lebron and Bosh came to Miami. The entire organization changed when he was drafted. Up until then the Heat had never even reached the finals. They've reached 5 since Wade's arrival and won 3 titles. He was the catalyst for all of their success in the last 13 years. He was the face of the franchise for over a decade and the greatest athlete in south Florida history.

[sd3035]

Wade. Miami and Chicago.


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[Fudge]

Shaq: Magic, Suns, and arguably Lakers/Celtics
:biggums: :facepalm

Take your meds.

[hiphopfan777]

Shaq

[BlakFrankWhite]

Jason Kidd is the GOAT Nets player and a Top 3 Mavs player.

[guy]

If we're talking "greatest" then probably no one has done that.

Best? Its only Lebron (CLE, MIA) and CP3 (NOH, LAC) for sure. You could argue Wilt for GS & PHI but there might be an argument for Steph in GS, Kareem for MIL & LAL but there might be an argument for Magic or Shaq in LAL, or Shaq for ORL & LAL but there might be an argument for Kareem or Magic in LAL.

[MP.Trey]

You could maybe argue VC for Raptors and Nets. Even tho Bosh and Kidd were probably the better players for each franchsie. But it's at least close enough to be worth mentioning.
You do realize this guy played for the Nets franchise, right?

http://i67.tinypic.com/2cffqk5.jpg

[Cap'n Obvious]

Wade. Miami and Chicago.
Wade is not the best player ever for Chicago.

[Fudge]

Wade is not the best player ever for Chicago.
:roll:

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Mav fans have this type of argument over whether to put Kidd's jersey in the rafters. Kidd was a great player. But his best year was with NJ and Phhx. The Mavs had him as youngin and as a crusty old vet.

I tend to view it as whether you great for the city over a sustained time. For example, Jordan would not even sniff the Wizrds/Bullets team. But others feel differently because he played there for a couple of years.

But if you go by the logic of "playing" on any franchise...

Hakeem with Houston and Toronto. (But I don't agree with it.)

[Big164]

Edit..Wade got 3 rings in MIami. And a top 5 Finals ever in 2006.

Wade is clear #1 Miami GOAT

[Fudge]

2 rings
2 FMVP
2 NBA MVP

LeHeat baby.