View Full Version : So the Warriors lost Barbosa, Brandon Rush, Barnes, Bogut, Ezeli
lilteapot
07-08-2016, 11:54 AM
Bench needs work. Still formidable team though
SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2016, 11:55 AM
They don't have Barbosa anymore to pick up the slack when Curry starts choking against the Cavs again.
BeastMode24
07-08-2016, 12:06 PM
who cares? bench doesn't mean chit. cavs won in the finals playing 7 guys. warriors lost because they played bench scrubs like varajeo and ezeli key minutes instead of playing their top guys huge minutes.
Locked_Up_Tonight
07-08-2016, 12:08 PM
And Speights.....
BeastMode24
07-08-2016, 12:13 PM
And Speights.....
speights is trash. if he was any good he'd get more than the min. just another overrated player that is only relevant because of Curry.
Lebron23
07-08-2016, 12:15 PM
And Speights.....
Wow
The bench is going to suck.
BeastMode24
07-08-2016, 12:17 PM
Wow
The bench is going to suck.
iggy, livingston, west. playoffs you only play an 8 man rotation anyways. what actually killed the warriors was playing scrubs like varaejo key minutes. now they will just shorten the rotation.
This bench going to suck.
bdreason
07-08-2016, 12:25 PM
Bench depth is overrated in the playoffs when rotations shorten.
Lebron23
07-08-2016, 12:27 PM
iggy, livingston, west. playoffs you only play an 8 man rotation anyways. what actually killed the warriors was playing scrubs like varaejo key minutes. now they will just shorten the rotation.
What if Durant and Curry got injured playing too many minutes? The Warriors strength is their bench.
kamil
07-08-2016, 12:28 PM
What if Durant and Curry got injured playing too many minutes? The Warriors strength is their bench.
Then LeBron* will be known as LeBron**
Prime_Shaq
07-08-2016, 12:34 PM
Where is Speights going?
BeastMode24
07-08-2016, 12:35 PM
What if Durant and Curry got injured playing too many minutes? The Warriors strength is their bench.
if durant and curry get hurt then the warriors would lose regardless just like any other team would lose if their two best players got hurt. the warriors strength has never been their bench. their strength has always been their top 4 players (curry/klay/iggy/dray and now add durant.
francesco totti
07-08-2016, 12:39 PM
Bench depth is overrated in the playoffs when rotations shorten.
but its vastly underrated in regular season.I think it will hurt your chances of repeating 70+ win like last year.
francesco totti
07-08-2016, 12:40 PM
What if Durant and Curry got injured playing too many minutes? The Warriors strength is their bench.
They have not to give their all in regular season, save for playoffs.
But Durant seems to me Iverson-like, he hates his minutes to go down.
ArbitraryWater
07-08-2016, 12:43 PM
Rush is completely irrelevant, Barnes was replaced by an MVP, Bogut by Pachulia, Ezelie and Speights were mediocre to begin with... Barbosa is aging.
AND depth in the playoffs is overrated to begin with...
yall are trying so hard to find a weakness on a team that runs this:
PG: Curry / Livingston
SG: Thompson / McCaw
SF: Durant / Igoudala
PF: Green / West
C: Pachulia / Jones
tpols
07-08-2016, 12:50 PM
yes .. a lot lost.
nobody said it was going to be easy .. but there is beauty in the struggle.. remember that folks.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-08-2016, 12:51 PM
yes .. a lot lost. nobody said it was going to be easy .. but there is beauty in the struggle.. remember that folks.
lol
Being too sarcastic pushes buttons among certain individuals. The poster above you could have a heart attack at any moment... :lol
ArbitraryWater
07-08-2016, 12:57 PM
lol
Being too sarcastic pushes buttons among certain individuals. The poster above you could have a heart attack at any moment... :lol
lol, i love the gimmick tbh
tpols my man
i believe in him
tpols
07-08-2016, 01:08 PM
lol, i love the gimmick tbh
tpols my man
i believe in him
:D
oh we just getting started fellas
Nezty
07-08-2016, 01:54 PM
Rush is completely irrelevant, Barnes was replaced by an MVP, Bogut by Pachulia, Ezelie and Speights were mediocre to begin with... Barbosa is aging.
AND depth in the playoffs is overrated to begin with...
yall are trying so hard to find a weakness on a team that runs this:
PG: Curry / Livingston
SG: Thompson / McCaw
SF: Durant / Igoudala
PF: Green / West
C: Pachulia / Jones
Outside of the big 4 that team looks mediocore/shit. Iggy and West slowing down.
Stringer Bell
07-08-2016, 01:54 PM
Yeah, this was inevitable once Dallas offered Barnes a max deal and the Warriors decided they would match it if they didn't get Durant.
Either way, it was gonna take up a lot of the payroll. Lacob has to prove his "light years better" claim.
Old Man River
07-08-2016, 02:00 PM
Bench depth is overrated in the playoffs when rotations shorten.
need bench for reg season. i think that's how gsw got 73. but home court was nice but it was rigged
Kiddlovesnets
07-08-2016, 02:01 PM
I am surprised the Warriors are making so many stupid decisions in FAs. The only good signing is Durant, and Pachulia is a fine replacement for Bogut although hes still nowhere near good. And now they want to sign washed up Ray Allen, can he even walk now?
:roll:
Stringer Bell
07-08-2016, 02:05 PM
I don't get why the Warriors would want Ray Allen, another shooter, who is also 41 years old.
They have enough shooters, they should be looking to add more big guys for rim protection and rebounding.
HurricaneKid
07-08-2016, 02:12 PM
GS DID NOT need to waive Ezeli. They did it because they didn't want him back.
Losing Rush is immaterial. Barnes was replaced by someone 100x better at quite literally EVERYTHING.
Bogut is old, getting worse, and capably replaced by Zaza and West. Both of whom add a ton of toughness to a team that was pushed around in the playoffs.
I think Speights and Barbosa are likely to come back. The bench will be BETTER next year if anything.
LBJ4MVP23
07-08-2016, 02:21 PM
Benches are generally overrated because stars play so many minutes in the finals. You need a bench that can hang on until the stars get a breather generally.
However with 4 guys capable of being the number 1 on most teams in the league, the bench really is meaningless for the Warriors.
They will stagger their bench time through the season and in the playoffs. At any given time they will have 2-3 all stars on the floor, plus a great passing/wing defender. As long as they have 1 capable guy off the bench that can control the flow of the offense, they are more than alright.
leMVP
07-08-2016, 02:32 PM
The benches helps you get HC adv through winning and resting key players during RS, I don't think the Warriors want to go into the playoffs knowing they will have to beat SAS or Cavs without HC adv.
J Shuttlesworth
07-08-2016, 02:38 PM
Bench was a huge reason that the Warriors won so many games last year. Curry/Klay/Iggy/DG might have to play more minutes than they're used to. KD is already used to heavy minutes.
Bench was also pretty big for them in the playoffs. Let's not forget G1 of the finals. We'll have to see how Zaza/West play though
Jasper
07-08-2016, 03:11 PM
They don't have Barbosa anymore to pick up the slack when Curry starts choking against the Cavs again.
Ditto
Problem is Kerr is building an Olympic team :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Stringer Bell
07-08-2016, 03:11 PM
GS DID NOT need to waive Ezeli. They did it because they didn't want him back.
Losing Rush is immaterial. Barnes was replaced by someone 100x better at quite literally EVERYTHING.
Bogut is old, getting worse, and capably replaced by Zaza and West. Both of whom add a ton of toughness to a team that was pushed around in the playoffs.
I think Speights and Barbosa are likely to come back. The bench will be BETTER next year if anything.
Barbosa went back to the Suns and Speights to the Clippers, so they'll need to be replaced.
clipps
07-08-2016, 03:29 PM
iggy, livingston, west. playoffs you only play an 8 man rotation anyways. what actually killed the warriors was playing scrubs like varaejo key minutes. now they will just shorten the rotation.
Steph and Klay playing like trash and the team playing soft in the paint killed the Warriors. Not Varejao.:facepalm
Smoke117
07-08-2016, 03:35 PM
Bench depth is overrated in the playoffs when rotations shorten.
This. They have four stars in their prime that can be playing 40+ mins in the playoffs.
DMAVS41
07-08-2016, 05:25 PM
They lost nothing of note that wasn't already replaced outside of Barbosa.
And Barbosa is not moving the needle enough to even really mention when you added prime Kevin Durant.
Nezty
07-11-2016, 06:02 AM
This. They have four stars in their prime that can be playing 40+ mins in the playoffs.
Yeah, until one or two get injured.
feyki
07-11-2016, 06:41 AM
Only Bogut is valuable piece in that group .
I guess , you guys don't need explain on Barnes and Durant .
kurple
07-11-2016, 09:09 AM
Bench depth is overrated in the playoffs when rotations shorten.
Not of someone is or gets injured
LukeWalton
07-11-2016, 09:16 AM
They also lost Luke Walton. probably biggest lost of all
but now they have Mike Brown
poido123
07-11-2016, 09:34 AM
I'm not totally convinced they are unbeatable next season for the championship.
I want to see the role players they pick up.
Still think Cavs could beat them again. Who knows.
Spurs5Rings2014
07-11-2016, 12:19 PM
I'm not sure adding Durant in place of Barnes is actually an upgrade. We almost won the #1 seed, but when we would face Warriors in crucial games and Curry/Klay/Green would be choking/getting locked down at critical moments, Barnes would bail them out and keep them in it. They might not even be a top 3 seed without that clutch mother****er to lead the way.
:coleman:
KG215
07-11-2016, 12:32 PM
I'm not sure adding Durant in place of Barnes is actually an upgrade.
:wtf:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
JT123
07-11-2016, 12:35 PM
:wtf:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
What are you laughing about Mr. lifelong Warriors fan since 2016 :rolleyes:
CelticBaller
07-11-2016, 12:36 PM
Bench depth is overrated in the playoffs when rotations shorten.
Real talk
What was the Cavs rotation?
CelticBaller
07-11-2016, 12:38 PM
I'm not sure adding Durant in place of Barnes is actually an upgrade. We almost won the #1 seed, but when we would face Warriors in crucial games and Curry/Klay/Green would be choking/getting locked down at critical moments, Barnes would bail them out and keep them in it. They might not even be a top 3 seed without that clutch mother****er to lead the way.
:coleman:
This guy is honestly one of the dumbest poster here :oldlol:
bdonovan
07-11-2016, 01:16 PM
The people that are saying bench doesn't matter in the playoffs seem to have already forgotten what happened during this post-season. Warriors routinely had 10-11 players play at least 8 minutes (example: http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400878158). Another example of many players getting minutes: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201606080CLE.html .
The Warriors were a "strength in numbers" team. It wasn't just a slogan. They outpaced the opposing team when they had to rest their starters; or the opposing team exhausted their starters by playing them 40+ minutes to keep up. That was part of what made them so effective.
Zaza can't guard guards off the pick and roll the way Ezeli could. He's not a shot blocker. Neither is West. The defensive profile of the team has changed. They'll still get steals and play good team defense but you won't have the same toughness. Is anyone going to tell Durant to focus more on defense and maybe hit the weight room and put on some muscle? Who's going to tell him that? He'll just say 'hey i won mvp without that, who cares'. Also, you're going to have to cobble together camraderie and culture from different guys you get from different teams.
Sorry I'll stop ranting.
tpols
07-11-2016, 01:27 PM
The people that are saying bench doesn't matter in the playoffs seem to have already forgotten what happened during this post-season. Warriors routinely had 10-11 players play at least 8 minutes (example: http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400878158). Another example of many players getting minutes: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201606080CLE.html .
The Warriors were a "strength in numbers" team. It wasn't just a slogan. They outpaced the opposing team when they had to rest their starters; or the opposing team exhausted their starters by playing them 40+ minutes to keep up. That was part of what made them so effective.
Zaza can't guard guards off the pick and roll the way Ezeli could. He's not a shot blocker. Neither is West. The defensive profile of the team has changed. They'll still get steals and play good team defense but you won't have the same toughness. Is anyone going to tell Durant to focus more on defense and maybe hit the weight room and put on some muscle? Who's going to tell him that? He'll just say 'hey i won mvp without that, who cares'. Also, you're going to have to cobble together camraderie and culture from different guys you get from different teams.
Sorry I'll stop ranting.
yup.. and that will be their biggest weakness against the spurs and Cavs .. kyrie and especially bron's eyes light up when they see a small/weak paint.. which is why they routinely destroy teams like the hawks, but sometimes struggled a bit with chicago and indiana.. Golden State has nobody to protect the rim and clog the paint.
SecondTake
07-11-2016, 02:14 PM
who cares? bench doesn't mean chit. cavs won in the finals playing 7 guys. warriors lost because they played bench scrubs like varajeo and ezeli key minutes instead of playing their top guys huge minutes.
Yeah minutes for choke artists like Curry is what they really needed. Their bench is the one who even kept them in the game while their top guys were choking
Haymaker
07-11-2016, 02:23 PM
The people that are saying bench doesn't matter in the playoffs seem to have already forgotten what happened during this post-season. Warriors routinely had 10-11 players play at least 8 minutes (example: http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400878158). Another example of many players getting minutes: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201606080CLE.html .
The Warriors were a "strength in numbers" team. It wasn't just a slogan. They outpaced the opposing team when they had to rest their starters; or the opposing team exhausted their starters by playing them 40+ minutes to keep up. That was part of what made them so effective.
Zaza can't guard guards off the pick and roll the way Ezeli could. He's not a shot blocker. Neither is West. The defensive profile of the team has changed. They'll still get steals and play good team defense but you won't have the same toughness. Is anyone going to tell Durant to focus more on defense and maybe hit the weight room and put on some muscle? Who's going to tell him that? He'll just say 'hey i won mvp without that, who cares'. Also, you're going to have to cobble together camraderie and culture from different guys you get from different teams.
Sorry I'll stop ranting.
Word
warriorfan
07-11-2016, 02:47 PM
Barnes is a bum
Bogut is brittle as a mother f ucker
Brandon Rush is Brandon Rush
Ezeli is a waste and a piece of shit
Barbosa was decent though
Final Verdict: Zero f ucks given
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