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HoopSuperstar
07-08-2016, 06:19 PM
Charles Barkley Forgets He Forced a Trade to Rockets For a Ring - See more at: http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/charles-barkley-forgets-he-forced-a-trade-to-rockets-for-a-ring-417020.html#sthash.9UXywjR1.dpuf


My Rant on Durant.

Charles Barkley Situation Not to Be Compared to Kevin Durant's!

Charles Barkley left the Phoenix Suns seeking a title with the Houston Rockets.

Did he leave to try to win a Ring? Many players do, that's not really the point. Shaq left after he failed in Orlando, Malone and Paton went to the Lakers, Drexler left to the Rockets and Pippen too. Nash went to the Lakers And many others have done the same. But many of these players teams didn't have much upside.

Most of these teams these Star players left for were getting old and many who left for a chance at a title were past their prime.

Olajuwon was past his prime and so were Barkley and Drexler .
Hell even Kobe wanted out because he wanted to win a title, so when they got Pau Gasol, he felt the team finally had the necessary pieces for a shot at the title, his team was still relatively young and so was he, he was still in his prime.

But none of these players have done what Durant did, leave a GOOD team(contender) while still in his PRIME to play with a championship team which main core of stars are all in their Prime.

Plus none of them left to play with THREE all-stars in their Prime. Not 1 Not 2 But 3 Prime All-stars

Draymond Green is the equivalent of Bosh and Love, Stepheh Curry is the equivalent of Wade & K.Irving, and Kevin Durant is Lebron James.
When Lebron James decided to join Miami, Mario Chalmers became their fourth option and we can say H. Barnes was Golden State 4th option. So Durant replaced Warriors fourth option and now becomes Warriors 1st.
Let me Enlighten You:

Bosh= D.Green
Wade=S. Curry
L.James=K.Durant
M. Chalmers/K.Thompson

Chalmers or Klay Thompson. Who would you pick?

And Warriorfan Bosh stats were up because he wasn't playing with Wade & James
Draymond scoring stats can go easily up if he wasn't playing alongside S.Curry & K. Thompson.

Question: What's happen to Bosh stats when he teamed up with Wade and Lebron?

What happened to Kevin Love stats when he joined L. James and Irving?

So again what separates Durant Decision from other players is he left a Good, team with TWO all-star (one of the a superstar) to play with THREE all-stars in their prime that could easily have been champs yet again.
I'm not against warrior fans, but don't tell me this isn't the weakest move ever.

Don't tell me he accomplished something big when the team didn't need him.
I say he's more of a insurance policy, in case anyone gets hurt or injured.
Durant is a great player and he could carry a good team to a championship, but because of the current level of NBA competition he's basically joining the USA (NBA) basketball squad, with or without him they're still winning the gold.

An accomplishment sure, But it's not much of a feat when you're on a team that's guaranteed to win it all. It'll be an upset if they lose, but's that's highly unlikely when it's a 7 game series.

Barkley's chance at a title was running out because of his age, but Durant is still young.

Now what if Marc Gasol took less money and left to play with the Golden State Warriors?
What would you say about that? Where's the limit? One thing for sure Durant, exceeded it.

warriorfan
07-08-2016, 06:21 PM
My Rant on Durant.

Charles Barkley Situation Not to Be Compared to Kevin Durant's!

Charles Barkley left the Phoenix Suns seeking a title with the Houston Rockets.

Did he leave to try to win a Ring? Many players do, that's not really the point. Shaq left after he failed in Orlando, Malone and Paton went to the Lakers, Drexler left to the Rockets and Pippen too. Nash went to the Lakers And many others have done the same. But many of these players teams didn't have much upside.

Most of these teams these Star players left for were getting old and many who left for a chance at a title were past their prime.

Olajuwon was past his prime and so were Barkley and Drexler .
Hell even Kobe wanted out because he wanted to win a title, so when they got Pau Gasol, he felt the team finally had the necessary pieces for a shot at the title, his team was still relatively young and so was he, he was still in his prime.

But none of these players have done what Durant did, leave a GOOD team(contender) while still in his PRIME to play with a championship team which main core of stars are all in their Prime.

Plus none of them left to play with THREE all-stars in their Prime. Not 1 Not 2 But 3 Prime All-stars

Draymond Green is the equivalent of Bosh and Love, Stepheh Curry is the equivalent of Wade & K.Irving, and Kevin Durant is Lebron James.
When Lebron James decided to join Miami, Mario Chalmers became their fourth option and we can say H. Barnes was Golden State 4th option. So Durant replaced Warriors fourth option and now becomes Warriors 1st.
Let me Enlighten You:

Bosh= D.Green
Wade=S. Curry
L.James=K.Durant
M. Chalmers/K.Thompson

Chalmers or Klay Thompson. Who would you pick?

And Warriorfan Bosh stats were up because he wasn't playing with Wade & James
Draymond scoring stats can go easily up if he wasn't playing alongside S.Curry & K. Thompson.

Question: What's happen to Bosh stats when he teamed up with Wade and Lebron?

What happened to Kevin Love stats when he joined L. James and Irving?

So again what separates Durant Decision from other players is he left a Good, team with TWO all-star (one of the a superstar) to play with THREE all-stars in their prime that could easily have been champs yet again.
I'm not against warrior fans, but don't tell me this isn't the weakest move ever.

Don't tell me he accomplished something big when the team didn't need him.
I say he's more of a insurance policy, in case anyone gets hurt or injured.
Durant is a great player and he could carry a good team to a championship, but because of the current level of NBA competition he's basically joining the USA (NBA) basketball squad, with or without him they're still winning the gold.

An accomplishment sure, But it's not much of a feat when you're on a team that's guaranteed to win it all. It'll be an upset if they lose, but's that's highly unlikely when it's a 7 game series.

Barkley's chance at a title was running out because of his age, but Durant is still young.

Now what if Marc Gasol took less money and left to play with the Golden State Warriors?
What would you say about that? Where's the limit? One thing for sure Durant, exceeded it.

If you think what Kevin Durant did was bad

In reality, what LeBron did was worse

LeBron left his hometown team to join the players with the 2nd and 4th highest PER in the league (Wade and Bosh)

https://s31.postimg.org/d9ndpvc63/lebroncollude.jpg





That would be the same as Curry leaving his hometown to join OKC (joining with the 2nd and 4th highest PER)

https://s31.postimg.org/japo0i0yz/King_Curry.png

Vancouver-Grizz
07-08-2016, 06:23 PM
Are you kidding me?

You gave a pass to Shaq because his team didn't have an upside?

He still had healthy Penny Hardaway, Horace Grant, Dennis Scott, and a mentally free throw broken down Nick Anderson...

Rockets and the Lakers won Championships prior to their arrival of the other players you were talking about.

HoopSuperstar
07-08-2016, 06:24 PM
If you think what Kevin Durant did was bad

In reality, what LeBron did was worse

LeBron left his hometown team to join the players with the 2nd and 4th highest PER in the league (Wade and Bosh)

https://s31.postimg.org/d9ndpvc63/lebroncollude.jpg





That would be the same as Curry leaving his hometown to join OKC (joining with the 2nd and 4th highest PER)

https://s31.postimg.org/japo0i0yz/King_Curry.png


warriorfan You didn't read it? I'd explained it, I even put your name in it. "warriorfan"

j3lademaster
07-08-2016, 07:00 PM
There really is nothing you can compare to what Durant did. The only things you can pull out are hypotheticals: Shaq leaving Orlando and going to the Bulls in 97, MJ joining the Bad boy Pistons after they whoop on him, What if Magic joined the Celtics after seeing their impressive 86 season? We as fans would have been robbed of the 87 Lakers. And I think that's my biggest gripe with this. Durant can leave and do whatever he wants. He's a free agent and it's his right, but if you do something this cowardly fans are going to lose respect for you and you are going to lose endorsements. And looking back, this is going to be a huge black mark on your legacy. And I hear that "in 20 years it's going to be all about the rings" crap all the time. The 94 Bulls won 55 games without MJ and we never hear the end of it to discredit him... 1-9 in the 80's... that happened 20+ years ago and the times had way less social media coverage than it does now. Magic still gets the weak west and Tragic Johnson held against him from 20+ years ago. I promise you Lebron's 2010 will be remembered 20 years from now when fans look back on his legacy.

And maybe Durant overcomes this, but I don't see that happening. Why?
1. Durant can't perform in the playoffs like Lebron, MJ, Magic can. He's 28, not 22; him changing his trend of playoff choking is very improbable.

2. Like I stated above, no one's seen a black mark on a resume like Durant's. Can you imagine if Lebron lost this year and joins the Warriors? We wouldn't hear the end of it. It'd be 10x worse than the scrutiny Durant gets. (But that's because we have expectations of Lebron to be an all timer, the same can't be said for Durant). Since we've never seen it, we don't know what to expect.

If Curry and Klay perform like they did this year's playoffs and Durant goes Lebron-esque, winning the ring would be the only way he gets past the rap he got from joining the Warriors.

HoopSuperstar
07-08-2016, 07:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/tnXaVZ1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6In3VNs.jpg


This goes to show how you can't compare Bosh stats and Wades and James, because they all played for different teams, but Klay Thompson, S. Curry and Draymond stats are all playing together.
Enough Said.

HoopSuperstar
07-08-2016, 07:08 PM
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http://n.sinaimg.cn/sports/transform/20160706/xu_c-fxtsatm1475883.jpg

Stringer Bell
07-13-2016, 03:48 PM
Barkley's situation has some similarities in that his team was eliminated by the Rockets in 1994 (blowing a 2-0 lead) and 1995 (blowing a 3-1 lead with HCA), and that Barkley was vocal in his desire to go to Houston in 1996 (The Suns missed the playoffs that year).

Other situations have been similar like Barkley and LeBron in going to a team to maximize their chances in winning a title, just nothing to this extent with Durant going to a 73 win team that just defeated his team in 7 games a month ago.

Of course people are going to be disappointed from a competitive standpoint, since the Thunder were so close to beating the Warriors and it's not like OKC was some old team on their last legs when they lost to GS.

A player going to another team, going to a top team, is nothing new. Going to a 70+ win team in which you had a 3-1 lead in the conference finals a month earlier of course is.

He's free to go to wherever he wants and people are free to be disappointed with it. It's pretty simple.

Dragonyeuw
07-13-2016, 03:55 PM
What if Magic joined the Celtics after seeing their impressive 86 season? [B]We as fans would have been robbed of the 87 Lakers.

A more apt analogy would be Magic joining Bird after the 84 finals, since Magic didn't face( and lose) to the Celtics in 86. So you'd have been robbed of the 85 and 87 finals, and I don't see anyone beating the Magic/Bird/ Mchale/ Parish Celtics much before 89 or 90.

Smoke117
07-13-2016, 05:10 PM
It's not even close to the same...Barkley was already older than Durant when he was TRADED TO THE SUNS at 29. He was 33 when he was traded to the Rockets and his bodily was rapidly breaking down. (played a career low 58 games his first season with Rockets)

jstern
07-13-2016, 06:12 PM
Have people forgotten about last years Spurs? That team had the chance of winning 70 games, if they went all out like the Warriors did rather than Popovich saving their legs for the playoffs. OKC embarrassed them. And then OKC had a 3-1 lead against Golden State. Dominated them, and then Durant chokes that lead away. In a million years I would have never imagined that Durant would leave that team to go to that 73 win team that he could have easily beaten. It's the biggest bitch move in the history of the NBA. There's nothing that compares.