Because of this dumb 'no depth' talk for GSW, take away their top 4 guys...

[ArbitraryWater]

5th - Igoudala
6th - Livingston
7th - Pachulia

Which team has a better 5-7?

[VengefulAngel]

5th - Igoudala
6th - Livingston
7th - Pachulia

Which team has a better 5-7?

None

[NBAGOAT]

possibly the Lakers :D

top bench guys- Deng, Bass, Lou

Problem is their starters for now.

[bdreason]

Spurs

5th - Duncan
6th - Green
7th - Mills
8th - Ginobili
9th - Martin

[VengefulAngel]

Spurs

5th - Duncan
6th - Green
7th - Mills
8th - Ginobili
9th - Martin

Green and Duncan had sub-par years last year, I would take Iggy and Livingston.

[imdaman99]

Iggy on his own team could be an all star in the east :oldlol:

[VengefulAngel]

possibly the Lakers :D

top bench guys- Deng, Bass, Lou

Problem is their starters for now.

LMAO

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[NBAGOAT]

LMAO

:roll: :roll: :roll:

hey by most metrics, lou and bass were there 2 best players last year and Deng should be decent for at least one more year.

[ArbitraryWater]

Spurs

5th - Duncan
6th - Green
7th - Mills
8th - Ginobili
9th - Martin

Duncan is probably retiring.

Green/Mills/Ginobili/Martin is still likely better, though.. does Martin even get minutes btw?!

In comparison, Cavs at this point would boast Smith/Shumpert/Jefferson at 5-7. Jefferson also one foot into retirement.

[ArbitraryWater]

Wait bdreason... how are those guys 5-9, whats their 1-4 then? http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2813/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif

[NBAGOAT]

Wait bdreason... how are those guys 5-9, whats their 1-4 then? http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2813/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif

kawhi, aldridge, gasol, parker

[ArbitraryWater]

kawhi, aldridge, gasol, parker

forgot about the Gasol addition... I dunno, right now I probably wouldnt take Spurs #4 guy over GSW's #5 guy. Maybe Parker has another good year in him, though.

[HoopSuperstar]

5th - Igoudala
6th - Livingston
7th - Pachulia

Which team has a better 5-7?

Doesn't really matter the rest of the team will play the other teams bench players for all the 4th quarter. They'll be blowing out teams. It's ridiculous.

[NBAGOAT]

forgot about the Gasol addition... I dunno, right now I probably wouldnt take Spurs #4 guy over GSW's #5 guy. Maybe Parker has another good year in him, though.

I would agree, Parker just doesn't have much of a positive impact anymore. I say my Lakers pick deserves serious consideration :D. Plenty of contending teams would take that bench in a heartbeat.

[AintNoSunshine]

Spurs

5th - Duncan
6th - Green
7th - Mills
8th - Ginobili
9th - Martin
Duncan is one foot in the retirement home. Literally.

Give me Iguodala who won FMVP 2 years ago and Livingston, a mismatch on a nightly basis.

[ArbitraryWater]

I would agree, Parker just doesn't have much of a positive impact anymore. I say my Lakers pick deserves serious consideration :D. Plenty of contending teams would take that bench in a heartbeat.

yup, actually a good bench.

[Meticode]

Depth equates towards the middle-end of the bench as well. If players get injured, starters or bench players you need players in the middle to end of the bench to step up. Right now their best middle bench guy is David West and he was a shell of his former self in San Antonio last season compared to Indiana. Pachulia will probably fill in well, but he was awful in the playoffs when he was needed.

[ArbitraryWater]

Depth equates towards the middle-end of the bench as well. If players get injured, starters or bench players you need players in the middle to end of the bench to step up. Right now their best middle bench guy is David West and he was a shell of his former self in San Antonio last season compared to Indiana. Pachulia will probably fill in well, but he was awful in the playoffs when he was needed.

under your definition, middle bench guys are utterly useless.. hardly no title teams play more than 8 guys.

[DMAVS41]

The notion that a team bringing Iggy/Liv off the bench is going to have a weak bench is stupid.

They are two of the best bench players in the league.

And the Warriors aren't done yet. They can add players throughout the year if they really need to.

Not to mention that McAdoo is hardly some inept player that will be incapable of playing and growing throughout the year.

In a perfect world they need to add a bit of a spark plug type pg like Barbosa. But, I mean, are we just going to make a big deal out of this stuff until this team is literally the definition of perfect?

[CakeorDeath]

5th - Igoudala
6th - Livingston
7th - Pachulia

Which team has a better 5-7?

Utah.

5th - Alec Burks
6th - Joe Johnson
7th- Boris Diaw

And that's just the first three guys off the bench. If the 5th guy is actually their worst starter (like Zaza is for GSW), that would have to be George Hill for the Jazz.

[Meticode]

Utah.

5th - Alec Burks
6th - Joe Johnson
7th- Boris Diaw
I'd still take Golden State easily.

[Meticode]

under your definition, middle bench guys are utterly useless.. hardly no title teams play more than 8 guys.
You have to allow yourself to be able to make adjustments. Cavs played more than 8 guys. Delly was okay in the playoffs, then in the Finals they benched him for Mo Williams who wasn't getting almost any minutes in the playoffs. Channging Frye was amazing in the playoffs, then they benched him and Jefferson got more minutes than he usually did.

Point is you have to have players that can step up pass the 8th or 9th spot. F*ck, even Dahntay f*ckin' Jones got some burn and came in and gave the Cavs like 5 points in 2 minutes.

[CakeorDeath]

I'd still take Golden State easily.

Starters? Certainly. Bench? I think Utah easily.

Hill, Exum, Mack, Burks, Johnson, Lyles, Diaw > Iggy, Livingston, Zaza, West, Looney, Clark

[DMAVS41]

You have to allow yourself to be able to make adjustments. Cavs played more than 8 guys. Delly was okay in the playoffs, then in the Finals they benched him for Mo Williams who wasn't getting almost any minutes in the playoffs. Channging Frye was amazing in the playoffs, then they benched him and Jefferson got more minutes than he usually did.

Point is you have to have players that can step up pass the 8th or 9th spot. F*ck, even Dahntay f*ckin' Jones got some burn and came in and gave the Cavs like 5 points in 2 minutes.

I agree with this, however I think you are selling guys like West and McAdoo short.

I don't see any reason why they couldn't, in spots, do important things throughout the year and in playoff series.

And like the Cavs adding Jones a few days before the end of the season...there is a ton of time to add players to this roster.

[iamgine]

8th - David West