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Raymone
07-08-2016, 07:38 PM
Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8

Nick Young
07-08-2016, 07:40 PM
Everyone has been saying this since this shit began. It has only been the lefties enabling them that allowed Dallas to happen.

9erempiree
07-08-2016, 08:55 PM
"Kill White People"

"Kill White Cops"

Dictator
07-08-2016, 09:34 PM
Honestly, white Americans have no room to talk about terrorism/racism.

Nick Young
07-08-2016, 09:46 PM
Honestly, white Americans have no room to talk about terrorism/racism.
Honestly, Americans of every skin color have every single right to talk about terrorism/racism.

Dresta
07-09-2016, 11:18 AM
Honestly, white Americans have no room to talk about terrorism/racism.
:biggums:

How can someone be so stupid as to not recognise that this is a bigoted statement? Methinks they have plenty of right to talk about it considering racism towards them (like your post) is the only racism that's really acceptable in modern America.

People are always saying "white Americans" can't do this or that because they are white, and getting away with it. If you said the same thing regarding blacks you would lose your job.

longtime lurker
07-09-2016, 04:17 PM
:biggums:

How can someone be so stupid as to not recognise that this is a bigoted statement? Methinks they have plenty of right to talk about it considering racism towards them (like your post) is the only racism that's really acceptable in modern America.

People are always saying "white Americans" can't do this or that because they are white, and getting away with it. If you said the same thing regarding blacks you would lose your job.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--LKcJ1xCn--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/679704546860421802.gif

Dictator
07-09-2016, 05:32 PM
:biggums:

How can someone be so stupid as to not recognise that this is a bigoted statement? Methinks they have plenty of right to talk about it considering racism towards them (like your post) is the only racism that's really acceptable in modern America.

People are always saying "white Americans" can't do this or that because they are white, and getting away with it. If you said the same thing regarding blacks you would lose your job.

How can you start and base your society around racism and then be mad at the people you're racist to for being mad at you?

masonanddixon
07-09-2016, 07:52 PM
How can you start and base your society around racism and then be mad at the people you're racist to for being mad at you?

Give it it a rest.

poido123
07-09-2016, 08:18 PM
How can you start and base your society around racism and then be mad at the people you're racist to for being mad at you?


This guy and the others in this thread still can't fathom that blacks are killing more people in America at a higher rate AND more white people are being killed by cops.

Then they want to scream racist, when the facts are that whites are the ones who could easily cry racism in this example.

There is plenty of white racism in the workplace. I know that in my country, indigenous are afforded incentives and employment allocations in all government jobs. Which means, white people are discriminated against and its only through MEDIA and the SJW/Liberal left who are pushing this agenda of white racism. Immigrants are given handouts and possessions before they have earnt a cent.


Cherry picking at its finest.

masonanddixon
07-09-2016, 08:22 PM
This guy and the others in this thread still can't fathom that blacks are killing more people in America at a higher rate AND more white people are being killed by cops.

Then they want to scream racist, when the facts are that whites are the ones who could easily cry racism in this example.

There is plenty of white racism in the workplace. I know that in my country, indigenous are afforded incentives and employment allocations in all government jobs. Which means, white people are discriminated against and its only through MEDIA and the SJW/Liberal left who are pushing this agenda of white racism. Immigrants are given handouts and possessions before they have earnt a cent.


Cherry picking at its finest.

Indigenous are different to blacks though. Indigenous have had their entire way of life destroyed and their land forcibly taken from them.

Blacks have had every advantage in hand for the past two decades and are waging a war against an enemy that does not exist.

The two groups are not in the slightest comparable.

poido123
07-09-2016, 08:26 PM
Indigenous are different to blacks though. Indigenous have had their entire way of life destroyed and their land forcibly taken from them.

Blacks have had every advantage in hand for the past two decades and are waging a war against an enemy that does not exist.

The two groups are not in the slightest comparable.


I'm comparing on the basis of minority group mentality.

You feed them the victim card and they will reach for it. I had to work for everything in my life and so have the pensioners and war vets of this world. Yet we seem to want to give it away to people that aren't earning it.


World succession has been happening since the start of the human race. To make amends for every example of displacement would mean that every country should be held to the same standard. Some countries have been overthrown by numerous successions, do we give handouts to all of them too?


:confusedshrug:

masonanddixon
07-09-2016, 08:30 PM
I'm comparing on the basis of minority group mentality.

You feed them the victim card and they will reach for it. I had to work for everything in my life and so have the pensioners and war vets of this world. Yet we seem to want to give it away to people that aren't earning it.


World succession has been happening since the start of the human race. To make amends for every example of displacement would mean that every country should be held to the same standard. Some countries have been overthrown by numerous successions, do we give handouts to all of them to?


:confusedshrug:

It's different to me because I see what Australia was like for the past 50,000 years and what it has now become. And I am saying this as someone from America.

If you're not Indigenous, or if you're in Australia and you don't want to integrate you don't belong in Australia. I'm with you on this, man. I don't want forced immigration/multiculturalism but there's so much shit the governments have done which are absolutely disgusting.

The rampant overdevelopment of Queensland which the mining industry continue to try to push, the outright plunder, stealing, and robbing of Indigenous land is far worse than giving Indigenous some advantages, few of which they even take, and they are such a small population of the country.

If you ever lived in America and had to spend time around blacks you'd come back here and realise how special the Indigenous are.

Dictator
07-09-2016, 10:06 PM
This guy and the others in this thread still can't fathom that blacks are killing more people in America at a higher rate AND more white people are being killed by cops.

Then they want to scream racist, when the facts are that whites are the ones who could easily cry racism in this example.

There is plenty of white racism in the workplace. I know that in my country, indigenous are afforded incentives and employment allocations in all government jobs. Which means, white people are discriminated against and its only through MEDIA and the SJW/Liberal left who are pushing this agenda of white racism. Immigrants are given handouts and possessions before they have earnt a cent.


Cherry picking at its finest.

Who said anything about black violence and whites being killed by cops?

In the US minorities are given incentives and initiatives to balance the unjust of white Americans.

You guys cry about blacks creating an organization which raises awareness of the problems their facing, yet the KKK have public rallies, and no one says anything about it. :coleman:

Bourne
07-10-2016, 12:41 AM
Who said anything about black violence and whites being killed by cops?

In the US minorities are given incentives and initiatives to balance the unjust of white Americans.

You guys cry about blacks creating an organization which raises awareness of the problems their facing, yet the KKK have public rallies, and no one says anything about it. :coleman:

No one says anything about the KKK?

Your trolling has been exposed

masonanddixon
07-10-2016, 01:08 AM
No one says anything about the KKK?

Your trolling has been exposed

He's only a high school kid. Give him a break. Dude's been indoctrinated with liberal filth since Day 1.

Terahite
07-10-2016, 01:16 AM
Who said anything about black violence and whites being killed by cops?

In the US minorities are given incentives and initiatives to balance the unjust of white Americans.

You guys cry about blacks creating an organization which raises awareness of the problems their facing, yet the KKK have public rallies, and no one says anything about it. :coleman:

dude what the **** are you even talking about? :lol

oh the horror
07-10-2016, 03:38 AM
Please. Any grown adult claiming this a "terrorist organization" is a coward and a weakling on every level.




Now I know who the narcs on this board are. Show yourselves so we can all see you. There's nothing more you can post that bring any credibility to your character.



How utterly disgraceful you are to people that suffer from real terrorism. Disgraceful little f*ggots.



Your parents are failures and bums just like you. What's up?

poido123
07-10-2016, 06:57 AM
Please. Any grown adult claiming this a "terrorist organization" is a coward and a weakling on every level.




Now I know who the narcs on this board are. Show yourselves so we can all see you. There's nothing more you can post that bring any credibility to your character.



How utterly disgraceful you are to people that suffer from real terrorism. Disgraceful little f*ggots.



Your parents are failures and bums just like you. What's up?


whatever label you want to give them, I see BLM as racist and dangerous as the KKK or any other loony group.

what's worse is the media and president give them the platform and the support to keep doing what they do. they are stirring up often uneducated black males to do stupid things and quite frankly, that is very irresponsible.

Nash
07-10-2016, 07:25 AM
:roll: racism against whites :roll:

yeah, I'm white and I have never experienced any racism towards me.
f*ck outta here with that BS.

poido123
07-10-2016, 07:31 AM
:roll: racism against whites :roll:

yeah, I'm white and I have never experienced any racism towards me.
f*ck outta here with that BS.



It's real.


Doesn't matter what you say really, because there are facts that support it.

Nash
07-10-2016, 07:56 AM
It's real.


Doesn't matter what you say really, because there are facts that support it.
Answer me this question, would you like to be born white and all that comes with it or black and all that comes with being black?

NumberSix
07-10-2016, 08:44 AM
Answer me this question, would you like to be born white and all that comes with it or black and all that comes with being black?
Whichever one is a two parent, upper middle class or wealthy family. I would definitely rather be born into the Carson family than some single mother white family.

TheMan
07-10-2016, 10:51 AM
Whichever one is a two parent, upper middle class or wealthy family. I would definitely rather be born into the Carson family than some single mother white family.
I hear you but all things being equal?

You're insane if you think blacks are more privileged than whites in America :lol

Dresta
07-10-2016, 11:43 AM
How can you start and base your society around racism and then be mad at the people you're racist to for being mad at you?
How can you not know that human beings are tribal creatures and that all their civilisations have developed from tribe-based discriminations, from the coming together of similar peoples to protect themselves from outside and alien threats? Nations would not exist if they had not developed as a necessary means of defense and security for people who were too often raped and pillaged by invading hordes.

And again, you show your inability to think of particulars: apparently because black slavery existed 160 years ago, I have to accept black people being mad at me. Well no, that's the same logic that says if a black person does something bad to me I can take solace in hating all black people: it is crude, simplistic, prejudicial, and yes, racist. I never owned any black slaves; I don't owe black people shit for whatever their ancestors have suffered; my own ancestors have dealt with far more recent persecution, and yet I don't use it as a justification to hate all Germans or Russians and pretend this doesn't make me a bigot because of past grievances.


I hear you but all things being equal?

You're insane if you think blacks are more privileged than whites in America :lol
There is no such thing as a "black" person and a "white" person "all other things equal"--you are completely obsessed with abstractions and generalities which don't have any tangible reality, and don't realise such abstractions actually directly affect the lives of very REAL people; there is nothing just about calling the children of Lebron James poor little black kids with a grievance, while acting like no white person can ever have things bad; not only that, but it is completely at odds with reality. Because of this racist obsession with black people we don't hear about Asian Americans AT ALL: a group that is heavily discriminated against in education and employment simply because it is successful and stable and thus higher achieving than whites and blacks (whose familial stability has fallen off a cliff). Penalising people for doing things the right, sensible and prudent way, is the path to civilisational suicide; by all means, keep rewarding and justifying incompetence and irresponsibility--but it will never change if you do (hint: it only gets worse, as has happened drastically to blacks ever since the Moynihan report was published).

Y'all keep pushing an attitude and solution that is proven not to work already. No ethnic group ever got anywhere by being handed everything and being excused any notion of personal responsibility; no-one builds good and productive habits when there is always a ready-made excuse to explain their failures--no, such an attitude only makes people despair and behave desperately. It is an open invitation to criminality because it tells black people it is ok to break the laws of a society that has stacked the deck against them; it is a cycle of hopeless frustration that is self-reinforcing and will never be changed by foolish and unproductive street protests.

I have a real sympathy for the unpleasant hand dealt to many blacks; I only have to go downtown in most major US cities to realise blacks make up a disproportionate number of the homeless, but I just don't think self-pity and marching for some kind of "change" is any real solution--if they want a solution, it will take some looking inwards, some serious cultural and moral reform, and it will be a long and painful process. Allowing blacks to blame all their problems on whites simply excuses them from ever having to make this concession, or acknowledge that there are habits prevalent amongst black people that hamstring them and prevent their building opportunity for their posterity (and whites are catching up in this regard--only East Asians have really escaped the rot of 60s radicalism).


Whichever one is a two parent, upper middle class or wealthy family. I would definitely rather be born into the Carson family than some single mother white family.
Oh, common sense, logic: gtfo of here with that shit! White's are evil oppressors so you can't be racist to them, and that's totally not a racist thing to say!

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 12:17 PM
And again, you show your inability to think of particulars: apparently because black slavery existed 160 years ago, I have to accept black people being mad at me. Well no, that's the same logic that says if a black person does something bad to me I can take solace in hating all black people: it is crude, simplistic, prejudicial, and yes, racist. I never owned any black slaves; I don't owe black people shit for whatever their ancestors have suffered; my own ancestors have dealt with far more recent persecution, and yet I don't use it as a justification to hate all Germans or Russians and pretend this doesn't make me a bigot because of past grievances.
Hold on Dresta. No one is mad at you. But you are the beneficiary of what your forefathers did. Thats what upsetting. Some of you want to act as if the results of slavery havnt had a direct effect on the layout of US Americans today. The money, land, resources etc have been passed down TO YOU. You said yourself that humans are tribal. The biggest and most important aspect of tribalism is assuring the success of the tribe by passing down the wealth to your sons and daughters.

I also find it funny at how you try to trivialize how long ago slavery was. 160 years is relativley recent when were disuccing human history.

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 12:23 PM
Please. Any grown adult claiming this a "terrorist organization" is a coward and a weakling on every level.




Now I know who the narcs on this board are. Show yourselves so we can all see you. There's nothing more you can post that bring any credibility to your character.



How utterly disgraceful you are to people that suffer from real terrorism. Disgraceful little f*ggots.



Your parents are failures and bums just like you. What's up?
Good job with the lefty shaming attempt

"ANYONE WHO DARES TO QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF BLM IS A RACIST COWARDLY CHILD DOE":hammerhead:

Does this logical fallacy shit usually work for you? Were you taught to argue this way in lefty school?:confusedshrug:

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 12:29 PM
Hold on Dresta. No one is mad at you. But you are the beneficiary of what your forefathers did. Thats what upsetting. Some of you want to act as if the results of slavery havnt had a direct effect on the layout of US Americans today. The money, land, resources etc have been passed down TO YOU. You said yourself that humans are tribal. The biggest and most important aspect of tribalism is assuring the success of the tribe by passing down the wealth to your sons and daughters.

I also find it funny at how you try to trivialize how long ago slavery was. 160 years is relativley recent when were disuccing human history.

So in your mind black people are faultless victims and all white people are part of the problem due to this mysterious and inarguable concept of "privilege" we have passed down to us?

F*ck your racist world view. No one owes anyone shit because of the color of their skin. Stop living in the past.

I still haven't received reparations for the Holocaust. Where are my reparations? I'm not going to Israel anytime soon. I demand reparations.

Your people only had to deal with a bit of slavery 160 years ago? My people were enslaved multiple times and my people were recently Holocausted only 70 years ago. Everyone with a hint of German ancestry owes me money!

You're still complaining about slavery that ended 160 years ago. Get back to me when someone tries to wipe your people off the face of the earth, then you have the right to complain and I'd have a lot more sympathy for this victim complex you're constantly peddling. :facepalm

poido123
07-10-2016, 12:30 PM
Hold on Dresta. No one is mad at you. But you are the beneficiary of what your forefathers did. Thats what upsetting. Some of you want to act as if the results of slavery havnt had a direct effect on the layout of US Americans today. The money, land, resources etc have been passed down TO YOU. You said yourself that humans are tribal. The biggest and most important aspect of tribalism is assuring the success of the tribe by passing down the wealth to your sons and daughters.

I also find it funny at how you try to trivialize how long ago slavery was. 160 years is relativley recent when were disuccing human history.


Is a 1000 years ever going to fix this? what will fix the past? people who live in the present, that's what.


That's essentially the issue. People are carrying the baton for past generations.


Displacement and succession is a fixture of our history. You either accept that life happens and it isn't fair or you live your life carrying the weight of your forefathers.


It takes a bigger man to make something of themselves without bitterness despite their disadvantages or unfortunate past.

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 12:41 PM
Is a 1000 years ever going to fix this? what will fix the past? people who live in the present, that's what.


That's essentially the issue. People are carrying the baton for past generations.


Displacement and succession is a fixture of our history. You either accept that life happens and it isn't fair or you live your life carrying the weight of your forefathers.


It takes a bigger man to make something of themselves without bitterness despite their disadvantages or unfortunate past.
Then tell these guys to cut the same stupid narratives. "Why cant blacks be as succesful as whites?" Nonsense. Stop acting like blacks are born with the same advantages as whites. You cant ignore the past my friend.

Is 1000 years gonna fix this? I dont know bro. Ask me this 1000 years from now

KNOW1EDGE
07-10-2016, 12:41 PM
Terrorism-
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Not sure how anybody on earth could say that definition does not fit BLM but mental health is a huge issue in this country

NumberSix
07-10-2016, 12:49 PM
Terrorism-
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Not sure how anybody on earth could say that definition does not fit BLM but mental health is a huge issue in this country
I can argue it. Mainly, that there isn't a BLM organization. It's a catch phrase. It's not an actual group. There are no BLM members.

AceManIII
07-10-2016, 01:27 PM
So in your mind black people are faultless victims and all white people are part of the problem due to this mysterious and inarguable concept of "privilege" we have passed down to us?

F*ck your racist world view. No one owes anyone shit because of the color of their skin. Stop living in the past.

I still haven't received reparations for the Holocaust. Where are my reparations? I'm not going to Israel anytime soon. I demand reparations.

Your people only had to deal with a bit of slavery 160 years ago? My people were enslaved multiple times and my people were recently Holocausted only 70 years ago. Everyone with a hint of German ancestry owes me money!

You're still complaining about slavery that ended 160 years ago. Get back to me when someone tries to wipe your people off the face of the earth, then you have the right to complain and I'd have a lot more sympathy for this victim complex you're constantly peddling. :facepalm

I think the main difference and/or problem at hand is not slavery, but the discrimination practices that have been going on until the 1960s.

It's going to take time to weed out all of that...I mean there are a lot of people who were alive during that period and are still alive today.

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 01:28 PM
Discrimination against black people certainly never went away after the 1960s.

But at the same time, continuing to peddle a victim narrative is not going to get people anywhere.

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 01:33 PM
So in your mind black people are faultless victims and all white people are part of the problem due to this mysterious and inarguable concept of "privilege" we have passed down to us?

F*ck your racist world view. No one owes anyone shit because of the color of their skin. Stop living in the past.

I still haven't received reparations for the Holocaust. Where are my reparations? I'm not going to Israel anytime soon. I demand reparations.

Your people only had to deal with a bit of slavery 160 years ago? My people were enslaved multiple times and my people were recently Holocausted only 70 years ago. Everyone with a hint of German ancestry owes me money!

You're still complaining about slavery that ended 160 years ago. Get back to me when someone tries to wipe your people off the face of the earth, then you have the right to complain and I'd have a lot more sympathy for this victim complex you're constantly peddling. :facepalm
They dont owe YOU "NickYoung" (because i dont know your real name) anything. Your jewish family received payment already. Now if you didn't get your share, then take it up with your Jewish leaders.

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 01:39 PM
Discrimination against black people certainly never went away after the 1960s.

But at the same time, continuing to peddle a victim narrative is not going to get people anywhere.
Again. YOU brought this up. Wasnt it you that stated something along the lines of why cant blacks get it together like your people did?

You talk about a victim narrative. Your people recieved payment for the transgressions against them and you still expect to get more.

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 01:46 PM
Your people recieved payment for the transgressions against them and you still expect to get more.

What payment have I received? What payment have my people received? All I see is continued resentment and antisemitism against us, irrationally blaming us for every problem that goes on in the world.



They dont owe YOU "NickYoung" (because i dont know your real name) anything. Your jewish family received payment already. Now if you didn't get your share, then take it up with your Jewish leaders.
My Jewish family never received payment from anyone other than their employers, in return for work they did. Myself and my Jewish family still experience and encounter antisemitism on a regular basis. Where are my reparations? :confusedshrug:




The Spanish and French never gave us reparations for the time when they deported us out of their countries and murdered my people in Catholic Inquisitions.

The Persians never gave us reparations for enslaving us.

The Russians never gave us reparations for the pogroms, or the millions of Jews murdered by Stalin.

The Turks never gave us reparations for their slaughter of Kurdish and Turkish Jews.

The Italians never gave us reparations for the oppression their Roman ancestors heaped upon my ancestors in Judea.


Where's my reparations at bro? I'm entitled to justice and equality.

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 01:48 PM
My Jewish family never received payment from anyone other than their employers. Myself and my Jewish family still experience and encounter antisemitism on a regular basis. Where are my reparations? :confusedshrug:
Are you saying that Jews never recieved reparations?

hitmanyr2k
07-10-2016, 01:51 PM
Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8

So a group of people that marched and chanted a phrase makes BLM as a whole a terrorist organization/movement? What's next? Are we going to label all anti-abortion protestors a terror group because random crazy people bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors and staff? You people get dumber by the day.

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 01:56 PM
Are you saying that Jews never recieved reparations?
From Italy?
From Iran?
From Turkey?
From Spain?
From Russia?
From Saudi Arabia?
From Egypt?

No, we definitely haven't received any reparations from these nations for the oppression and violence they committed against us.

Where are my reparations?

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 02:18 PM
From Italy?
From Iran?
From Turkey?
From Spain?
From Russia?
From Saudi Arabia?
From Egypt?

No, we definitely haven't received any reparations from these nations for the oppression and violence they committed against us.

Where are my reparations?
Have you received reparations for the holocaust?

NumberSix
07-10-2016, 02:24 PM
From Italy?
From Iran?
From Turkey?
From Spain?
From Russia?
From Saudi Arabia?
From Egypt?

No, we definitely haven't received any reparations from these nations for the oppression and violence they committed against us.

Where are my reparations?
Hey, you know what? Those fcuking Romans conquered my people too. Where are my gosh darn reparations? The fcuking Arabs conquered our land too. Can a brotha get a cut of some oil money?

longtime lurker
07-10-2016, 02:30 PM
OP makes a claim without providing any evidence to support his claim. This is getting desperate.

NumberSix
07-10-2016, 02:32 PM
OP makes a claim without providing any evidence to support his claim. This is getting desperate.
1. Your post is racist.
2. Didn't read.
3. First.

Terahite
07-10-2016, 05:35 PM
:roll: racism against whites :roll:

yeah, I'm white and I have never experienced any racism towards me.
f*ck outta here with that BS.

You're either from Belarus or a sheltered ****. Probably both.

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 05:39 PM
Have you received reparations for the holocaust?
Nope. Where my reparations at breh?

The Holocaust was just one recent slaughter against Jews. What about Stalin's pogroms against us, where millions of us were killed in Russia? That happened a mere 70 years ago as well.

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 05:40 PM
Hey, you know what? Those fcuking Romans conquered my people too. Where are my gosh darn reparations? The fcuking Arabs conquered our land too. Can a brotha get a cut of some oil money?
Exactly. The Italian people today owe you because of the oppression their ancestors have wrought upon your people.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-10-2016, 06:23 PM
Nope. Where my reparations at breh?

The Holocaust was just one recent slaughter against Jews. What about Stalin's pogroms against us, where millions of us were killed in Russia? That happened a mere 70 years ago as well.

You're destroying this thread.

And what I mean by that is you are owning these fake outrage "can we get a handout?" sheeple. :applause:

Bottom line? Unless you are physically disabled or have some kind of learning impairment, you have the SAME opportunity as the next joe.

Pointguard
07-10-2016, 06:29 PM
Nope. Where my reparations at breh?

The Holocaust was just one recent slaughter against Jews. What about Stalin's pogroms against us, where millions of us were killed in Russia? That happened a mere 70 years ago as well.
Blacks were eradicated, totally uprooted, systemically robbed of everything - language, history, religion, culture and their natural ways. Jews weren't. Not a comparison at all. Most people on the planet know Jewish history, culture and some traditions, most jews know some Hebrew, most if not all, banks that made money off of persecution of Jews paid reparations.

poido123
07-10-2016, 07:36 PM
Blacks were eradicated, totally uprooted, systemically robbed of everything - language, history, religion, culture and their natural ways. Jews weren't. Not a comparison at all. Most people on the planet know Jewish history, culture and some traditions, most jews know some Hebrew, most if not all, banks that made money off of persecution of Jews paid reparations.



Bu, bu, but we had it harder that you :roll:


Pretty sure the holocaust and systematic shaming of Jewish people is up there on the atrocity level scale bro. I'd say they hardly got any favors that you say.


and who are you arguing for here? we need some legit bidding first. :rolleyes:

Nick Young
07-10-2016, 07:39 PM
Blacks were eradicated, totally uprooted, systemically robbed of everything - language, history, religion, culture and their natural ways. Jews weren't. Not a comparison at all. Most people on the planet know Jewish history, culture and some traditions, most jews know some Hebrew, most if not all, banks that made money off of persecution of Jews paid reparations.
That is because Jews have done everything they can to hold on and maintain their traditions for thousands of years, even through the most perverse, concentrated and vicious oppression that has happened against a single ethnic minority group through history.

Back in the days of the Romans, they tried to wipe out our religion and burn every Torah. Rabbis and students were murdered if they were discovered studying Torah. Despite this persecution, we maintained our traditions and risked our lives to continue to pass down our knowledge, and we are still around 2000 years later while the Romans have peaced out.

Before them, the Greeks did the exact same thing, and the Babylonians before them.

If you go by Bible, we received the same treatment from the Egyptians but apart from the bible there is little evidence to back that account up.


Jews have been uprooted and robbed of everything MULTIPLE TIMES throughout their history. There have been multiple attempts to exterminate all Jews.

You cannot say that black people in America have received more oppression than Jews throughout history. It would be a factual inaccuracy.

Get back to me when the dictator of the most technologically advanced military nation on the planet makes it his personal mission to wipe out all African Americans on the planet, and is successful in wiping out half in some of the most brutal and psychotic massacres ever seen in human history.

Then I will pay more attention to your demands for reparation and your victim narrative will hold more sway.


If black people in America deserve reparations, all Jews in America deserve government reparations as well. Who knows how many atrocities against Jews that the European and Arab Americans alive today's ancestors have committed against my people.

A few hundred years of slavery? Pfft, I'll take that every day over Holocausts and pogroms, and being blamed and scapegoated every time something bad happens in the world.


And if the Jews have a case for reparations, the Native Americans certainly do as well. And the Chinese Americans whose ancestors were used as virtual slavelabor building the railroads in Northern California and Nevada. And the Japanese Americans whose ancestors were interned illegally in Manzanar and forced to perform sweatshop labor certainly deserve reparations as well.

Looks like our next president needs to create a Department of Reparations if there's ever going to be any justice in this world again.

Patrick Chewing
07-10-2016, 07:49 PM
Jews are a fighting people that fought to survive. They acclimated themselves very well throughout the years and have become the successful people you see them as today.


The problem with Blacks is that they seem to live by the handout. Thus, creating a never-ending cycle of mediocrity that we see today.


The only times they've unified is when they've unified under violence (Black Panthers, BLM).

Meticode
07-10-2016, 09:27 PM
Racism is alive on all fronts in America because society shows labels of black, white, latino, etc all down our throats as we grow up. Babies aren't born racists, it's learned by examples.

From the age of 7 years old I grew up in a 91% black neighborhood for 10+ years and the first few years were hard for our family living in low-income housing with all the racist things said to my mother and I.

It's not a black, or white problem. It's a societal problem.

Bourne
07-10-2016, 09:39 PM
Did You Know?

Less than 400,000 slaves were brought to America? Out of 12.5 million taken from Africa.

Wow!

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 10:29 PM
Nope. Where my reparations at breh?

The Holocaust was just one recent slaughter against Jews. What about Stalin's pogroms against us, where millions of us were killed in Russia? That happened a mere 70 years ago as well.
Take that up with the Russians. That's not my problem. Did the Russians do it to you????

97 bulls
07-10-2016, 10:32 PM
Jews are a fighting people that fought to survive. They acclimated themselves very well throughout the years and have become the successful people you see them as today.


The problem with Blacks is that they seem to live by the handout. Thus, creating a never-ending cycle of mediocrity that we see today.


The only times they've unified is when they've unified under violence (Black Panthers, BLM).
Lol. ALL races get handouts. Rich or poor. Again. Another person coming in and commenting on a discussion they know nothing about.

The Black Panthers were not violent. They defended themselves.

longtime lurker
07-10-2016, 10:38 PM
Lol. ALL races get handouts. Rich or poor. Again. Another person coming in and commenting on a discussion they know nothing about.

The Black Panthers were not violent. They defended themselves.

Slave owners received compensation from the US government :oldlol: I wonder why they didn't just pull themselves up by the bootstraps?

sd3035
07-10-2016, 11:03 PM
World ranking of countries by their average IQ

https://static.iq-research.info/20150809/img/iq_by_country.png

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 12:05 AM
World ranking of countries by their average IQ

https://static.iq-research.info/20150809/img/iq_by_country.png
Researchers have determined in the largest online study on the intelligence quotient (IQ) that results from the test may not exactly show how smart someone is.

"When we looked at the data, the bottom line is the whole concept of IQ -- or of you having a higher IQ than me -- is a myth," Dr. Adrian Owen, the study's senior investigator and the Canada Excellence Research Chair in Cognitive Neuroscience and Imaging at the university's Brain and Mind Institute said to the Toronto Star. "There is no such thing as a single measure of IQ or a measure of general intelligence."

More than 100,000 participants joined the study and completed 12 online cognitive tests that examined memory, reasoning, attention and planning abilities. They were also asked about their background and lifestyle.

They found that there was not one single test or component that could accurately judge how well a person could perform mental and cognitive tasks. Instead, they determined there are at least three different components that make up intelligence or a "cognitive profile": short-term memory, reasoning and a verbal component.

Scientists also scanned participants' brains with a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) machine and saw that different cognitive abilities were related to different circuits in the brain, suggesting that the theory that different areas of the brain control certain abilities may be true.

Researchers also discovered that training one's brain to help perform better cognitively did not help.

"People who 'brain-train' are no better at any of these three aspects of intelligence than people who don't," Owen said.

For some reason, people who played video games did better on reasoning and short-term memory portions of the test.

However, aging was associated with a decline on memory and reasoning abilities. Those who smoked did worse on short-term memory and verbal portions, while those with anxiety did badly on short-term memory test components.

"We have shown categorically that you cannot sum up the difference between people in terms of one number, and that is really what is important here," Owen told the CBC.

"Now we need to go forward and work out how we can assess the differences between people, and that will be something for future studies," he added.

The study was published in Neuron on Dec. 20.

DonDadda59
07-11-2016, 12:24 AM
:lol

Personally I'm not a BLM supporter (not to say I don't agree with their core principles, obviously). They just remind me of the Occupy Wall Street thing- just a bunch of kids who've seen old footage of actual movements and are doing a High School level impersonation play of them.

But there are actual White terrorists who have and are still trying to actively infiltrate law enforcement. The FBI can attest to this.

You would have an infinitely easier time arguing that many police departments around the country are actual terrorist organizations than BLM.

longtime lurker
07-11-2016, 12:44 AM
:lol

Personally I'm not a BLM supporter (not to say I don't agree with their core principles, obviously). They just remind me of the Occupy Wall Street thing- just a bunch of kids who've seen old footage of actual movements and are doing a High School level impersonation play of them.

But there are actual White terrorists who have and are still trying to actively infiltrate law enforcement. The FBI can attest to this.

You would have an infinitely easier time arguing that many police departments around the country are actual terrorist organizations than BLM.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-says-racist-organizations-have-been-infiltrating-police-departments-for-years/5452512

Nothing to see here folks

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 12:57 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-says-racist-organizations-have-been-infiltrating-police-departments-for-years/5452512

Nothing to see here folks
Wow. Just incredible. And yet some of these posters wonder why we have a problem with the police.

DonDadda59
07-11-2016, 01:00 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-says-racist-organizations-have-been-infiltrating-police-departments-for-years/5452512

Nothing to see here folks

The San Francisco Police Department is a terrorist organization:

[INDENT]San Francisco

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 01:05 AM
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]The San Francisco Police Department is a terrorist organization:

[INDENT]San Francisco

Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2016, 01:07 AM
World ranking of countries by their average IQ

https://static.iq-research.info/20150809/img/iq_by_country.png


That picture screams "all black people are dumb".



Sorry, but that's racist af. That shit can't be true, I've known plenty of people who came straight from Africa to the US and they do better in school than most of us. How did they come up with these results, how many people were surveyed and from where, exactly? All that info should be available, otherwise the statistics are meaningless.


If I told you that Jimmer Fredette averaged 50.4ppg last year for the Knicks, would you be impressed? Wow amazing, he matched Wilt's record for ppg, what's this guy doing in the d-league? Oh you need more info about the stats? Yea, it's per 36 minutes. He actually only averaged 3.5ppg per 2.5mpg in 2 games.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 01:15 AM
That picture screams "all black people are dumb".



Sorry, but that's racist af. That shit can't be true, I've known plenty of people who came straight from Africa to the US and they do better in school than most of us. How did they come up with these results, how many people were surveyed and from where, exactly? All that info should be available, otherwise the statistics are meaningless.


If I told you that Jimmer Fredette averaged 50.4ppg last year for the Knicks, would you be impressed? Wow amazing, he matched Wilt's record for ppg, what's this guy doing in the d-league? Oh you need more info about the stats? Yea, it's per 36 minutes. He actually only averaged 3.5ppg per 2.5mpg in 2 games.
We know where he was going with it bro. They getting their ass kicked on an intellectual level so they're falling back on IQ tests.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 01:15 AM
World ranking of countries by their average IQ

https://static.iq-research.info/20150809/img/iq_by_country.png
Proof of how flawed the whole IQ thing is when China is the "smartest" nation on earth yet they don't invent anything. All they do is counterfeit and copy inventions by other nations and provide cheap labor.

If it wasn't that they are just easily the most populous nation on earth, they'd be just another Hong Kong.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 01:17 AM
Proof of how flawed the whole IQ thing is when China is the "smartest" nation on earth yet they don't invent anything. All they do is counterfeit and copy inventions by other nations and provide cheap labor.

If it wasn't that they are just easily the most populous nation on earth, they'd be just another Hong Kong.
China invented paper bro. Have you used any paper today?


Israel>>>rest of Middle East :lol
:bowdown:

TomCat
07-11-2016, 01:25 AM
Proof of how flawed the whole IQ thing is when China is the "smartest" nation on earth yet they don't invent anything. All they do is counterfeit and copy inventions by other nations and provide cheap labor.

If it wasn't that they are just easily the most populous nation on earth, they'd be just another Hong Kong.

isn't jacking other people's shit without doing any work and making a huge profit the smart thing to do?

TheMan
07-11-2016, 01:26 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-says-racist-organizations-have-been-infiltrating-police-departments-for-years/5452512

Nothing to see here folks
I feel vindicated, I was banned for calling the police terrorists and said there is only so much the people can take before they fight back against oppression.

End the Police State mentality.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 01:30 AM
isn't jacking other people's shit without doing any work and making a huge profit the smart thing to do?
Exactly. China have always been a win-at-all-costs society and have never cared what other cultures thought of them.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 01:30 AM
China invented paper bro. Have you used any paper today?


Israel>>>rest of Middle East :lol
:bowdown:
No, I haven't...

I don't read newspapers nor do I write mail anymore, this is 2016 you dope, paper is yesterday.

China doesn't invent shit, they counterfeit everyone else's technology, and a pretty shit job at that.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 01:38 AM
Exactly. China have always been a win-at-all-costs society and have never cared what other cultures thought of them.
It doesn't take a genius to copy someone else's technology.

Except they really haven't won a lot.

They had their asses handed to them by little ol' Japan not too long ago, them Chinese broads were great as sex slaves though.

So much for being the smartest :lol

Patrick Chewing
07-11-2016, 01:42 AM
I feel vindicated, I was banned for calling the police terrorists and said there is only so much the people can take before they fight back against oppression.

End the Police State mentality.


You were banned because you welcomed their deaths just as you do now. And if there is a criminal element to the nationwide police force, it's probably 0.01% of all police combined.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 01:50 AM
You were banned because you welcomed their deaths just as you do now. And if there is a criminal element to the nationwide police force, it's probably 0.01% of all police combined.
The world is a pretty harsh place...

When the US ilegally invaded Iraq and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children were killed by US bombs, did you ever pause to think how immoral that was?

A few dead cops? Sorry but I ain't gonna lose any sleep over that.

Patrick Chewing
07-11-2016, 01:53 AM
The **** does Iraq have to do with 5 innocent cops getting killed??



The US legally entered Iraq and every war from the dawn of time has had casualties. Cry me a river for these poor Iraqi's, but as American, I care more about the lives over here than those over there.

KiiiiNG
07-11-2016, 01:57 AM
The world is a pretty harsh place...

When the US ilegally invaded Iraq and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children were killed by US bombs, did you ever pause to think how immoral that was?

A few dead cops? Sorry but I ain't gonna lose any sleep over that.
Are you seriously equating Iraqi lives with American ones?

:facepalm

TheMan
07-11-2016, 02:01 AM
The **** does Iraq have to do with 5 innocent cops getting killed??



The US legally entered Iraq and every war from the dawn of time has had casualties. Cry me a river for these poor Iraqi's, but as American, I care more about the lives over here than those over there.
I just gave you an example about how violent the world we live in is, those Iraqi lives are just as precious any other, including Americans.

If cops didn't have such a shitty relationship with some of those they are supposed to protect, maybe those 5 cops would be alive today.

It sucks they died but do I feel bad about it? Not really, there are worse tragedies happening all over the world every day. The world is a violent place, get used to it.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 02:04 AM
Are you seriously equating Iraqi lives with American ones?

:facepalm
An innocent human life is precious, it doesn't matter where they were born :confusedshrug:

oh the horror
07-11-2016, 02:48 AM
Are you seriously equating Iraqi lives with American ones?

:facepalm

They're different to you?



I'm beginning to wonder if some here are legit sociopathic. And I'm not being sarcastic either.


Is it merely trolling because you want to antagonize people here (which in itself is mental illness given the amount some of you do)

Or is it flat out that we share this board with some here that are just sick.



You questioned him like he said something outlandish to compare human lives with lives from other regions of the world. Unreal



This board really is filled with some severe scumbags.

KiiiiNG
07-11-2016, 03:08 AM
They're different to you?



I'm beginning to wonder if some here are legit sociopathic. And I'm not being sarcastic either.


Is it merely trolling because you want to antagonize people here (which in itself is mental illness given the amount some of you do)

Or is it flat out that we share this board with some here that are just sick.



You questioned him like he said something outlandish to compare human lives with lives from other regions of the world. Unreal



This board really is filled with some severe scumbags.
Take my words out of context and try to make me look like a "sociopath" :oldlol:

You're known for doing some beta shit around here, but that about takes the cake. Maybe you and that fat mexican above can eat it together.

Pretty sad you can't outright admit you care more about your own American people than you do about people in Iraq, which goes without saying anyway.

But think about who you're sticking up for dumbass; you're sticking up for a guy who is CELEBRATING the death of innocent American cops... clap clap clap.

But I'm the "scumbag/sociopath/mentally ill" and whatever beta terms you wanna use, right? :oldlol: :rolleyes:

COnDEMnED
07-11-2016, 03:52 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-says-racist-organizations-have-been-infiltrating-police-departments-for-years/5452512

Nothing to see here folks
O M G!

ONE THOUSAND racists become cops in a seven year span across a nation of 318.9 MILLION.

Stop the mother ****ing presses!!

If it was one thousand racists becoming cops in JUST California (38.8 million), this year, that's still a drop in the ocean. This is a non issue with a little perspective and common sense.

step_back
07-11-2016, 04:43 AM
They're different to you?



I'm beginning to wonder if some here are legit sociopathic. And I'm not being sarcastic either.


Is it merely trolling because you want to antagonize people here (which in itself is mental illness given the amount some of you do)

Or is it flat out that we share this board with some here that are just sick.



You questioned him like he said something outlandish to compare human lives with lives from other regions of the world. Unreal



This board really is filled with some severe scumbags.


Caring more about the lives of your own people than the lives of people somewhere else doesn't make you a sociopath. In fact I find it more worrying that people are willing to help refugees before they're willing to help their own population of homeless veterans.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 07:02 AM
Take my words out of context and try to make me look like a "sociopath" :oldlol:

You're known for doing some beta shit around here, but that about takes the cake. Maybe you and that fat mexican above can eat it together.

Pretty sad you can't outright admit you care more about your own American people than you do about people in Iraq, which goes without saying anyway.

But think about who you're sticking up for dumbass; you're sticking up for a guy who is CELEBRATING the death of innocent American cops... clap clap clap.

But I'm the "scumbag/sociopath/mentally ill" and whatever beta terms you wanna use, right? :oldlol: :rolleyes:
I'm 5"8 and 170 lbs, I ain't fat you fggot

Dresta
07-11-2016, 09:12 AM
Caring more about the lives of your own people than the lives of people somewhere else doesn't make you a sociopath. In fact I find it more worrying that people are willing to help refugees before they're willing to help their own population of homeless veterans.
Caring about everybody or about "humanity" in the abstract very often results in contempt for actual people; nor is it even possible, for human beings do not have a limitless capacity to empathise (it's hard enough caring about the people you know, seeing them get old, sick, and die--let alone spreading this concern to 7 billion people!). It's why the left can often be so positively vicious to individual persons while proclaiming how much they love humanity.

Love for an abstraction is not real. Human beings are wired to care about the things and people around them and not far off places of which they have no knowledge--it is easy to see why this is an absolute necessity, from an evolutionary standpoint (we would be long dead as a species if we did not think this way).


I just gave you an example about how violent the world we live in is, those Iraqi lives are just as precious any other, including Americans.

If cops didn't have such a shitty relationship with some of those they are supposed to protect, maybe those 5 cops would be alive today.

It sucks they died but do I feel bad about it? Not really, there are worse tragedies happening all over the world every day. The world is a violent place, get used to it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36753964

I hope you feel ashamed of yourself.

Dresta
07-11-2016, 09:25 AM
Proof of how flawed the whole IQ thing is when China is the "smartest" nation on earth yet they don't invent anything. All they do is counterfeit and copy inventions by other nations and provide cheap labor.

If it wasn't that they are just easily the most populous nation on earth, they'd be just another Hong Kong.
Oh, no, the Chinese aren't intelligent at all; it's not like they had an advanced civilisation while we were all dancing around the wicker man or anything, nahhh.

It's not like paper or gunpowder (or many other important things) didn't originate in China or anything. TheMan is descended from people who lived in nomadic tribes only a few hundred years ago, yet he's pouring scorn on a civilisation which developed beyond that way of life something like 10,000 years ago :facepalm .

poido123
07-11-2016, 09:26 AM
Caring about everybody or about "humanity" in the abstract very often results in contempt for actual people; nor is it even possible, for human beings do not have a limitless capacity to empathise (it's hard enough caring about the people you know, seeing them get old, sick, and die--let alone spreading this concern to 7 billion people!). It's why the left can often be so positively vicious to individual persons while proclaiming how much they love humanity.

Love for an abstraction is not real. Human beings are wired to care about the things and people around them and not far off places of which they have no knowledge--it is easy to see why this is an absolute necessity, from an evolutionary standpoint (we would be long dead as a species if we did not think this way).


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36753964

I hope you feel ashamed of yourself.



Here's what I don't get.


Why does the humanity preached by the leftists only extend to words?

Take the migrant crisis in Europe for example. The leftists were up in arms about people's lack of empathy to the situation, why the government wasn't doing more to take more people in and to provide more financial aid.


How many of those same people took refugees in? Why are the left not taking responsibility for their own lack of action or humanity?

step_back
07-11-2016, 10:06 AM
Here's what I don't get.


Why does the humanity preached by the leftists only extend to words?

Take the migrant crisis in Europe for example. The leftists were up in arms about people's lack of empathy to the situation, why the government wasn't doing more to take more people in and to provide more financial aid.


How many of those same people took refugees in? Why are the left not taking responsibility for their own lack of action or humanity?

As cynical as this sounds most people are interested in competing for how morally progressive they sound on social media. People get a feel good feeling from the digital pat on the back. The ones that I know that do it wouldn't actually house any refugees and they sure as shit wouldn't quit their jobs to go help in the camps.

No one is celebrating (Unless you're racist or a xenophobe which is still a tiny minority) the fact that people are going through severe hardship, but they're just not pretending to care like the others are.

TheMan
07-11-2016, 10:47 AM
Oh, no, the Chinese aren't intelligent at all; it's not like they had an advanced civilisation while we were all dancing around the wicker man or anything, nahhh.

It's not like paper or gunpowder (or many other important things) didn't originate in China or anything. TheMan is descended from people who lived in nomadic tribes only a few hundred years ago, yet he's pouring scorn on a civilisation which developed beyond that way of life something like 10,000 years ago :facepalm .
What the hell does my background have to do with anything? BTW, I'm basically 70% Euro and 30% NA according to my DNA results so does that make my opinion more valid? :facepalm

Schmuck

Dresta
07-11-2016, 11:07 AM
What the hell does my background have to do with anything? BTW, I'm basically 70% Euro and 30% NA according to my DNA results so does that make my opinion more valid? :facepalm

SchmuckNo, because Chinese civilisation was flourishing while your European ancestors were dancing around the wicker man, and your Indian ancestors following the Buffalo :roll:. I only mentioned it because you were being an ignorant and arrogant rube, pouring scorn on a place and people that has produced some of the most remarkable civilisations in human history (not to mention the number of world-changing innovations), while you yourself take pride in a native indian heritage that is downright embarrassing in comparison.

Effectively just saying: you are being ignorant, and you can't talk. What you just said about the Chinese is nothing better than ignorant bigotry.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 02:08 PM
Oh, no, the Chinese aren't intelligent at all; it's not like they had an advanced civilisation while we were all dancing around the wicker man or anything, nahhh.

It's not like paper or gunpowder (or many other important things) didn't originate in China or anything. TheMan is descended from people who lived in nomadic tribes only a few hundred years ago, yet he's pouring scorn on a civilisation which developed beyond that way of life something like 10,000 years ago :facepalm .
Mexicans used to eat people and practice human sacrifice because they believed that the sun wouldn't rise unless they ripped people's hearts out.

They were a culture and society ruled by 1%er bloodthirsty murder hungry coke addicts-so in other words, not much has changed in 500 years.

http://i.imgur.com/AliNrBi.gif

Back when the Mexicans first figured out their ability to eat people and rip their hearts out and throw them down pyramids, China had already invented paper, gunpowder and the abacus.


Apart from good food, what has Mexico done to benefit the world?

sd3035
07-11-2016, 02:45 PM
theman is getting bodied in here :lol

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 02:57 PM
That is because Jews have done everything they can to hold on and maintain their traditions for thousands of years, even through the most perverse, concentrated and vicious oppression that has happened against a single ethnic minority group through history.

Back in the days of the Romans, they tried to wipe out our religion and burn every Torah. Rabbis and students were murdered if they were discovered studying Torah. Despite this persecution, we maintained our traditions and risked our lives to continue to pass down our knowledge, and we are still around 2000 years later while the Romans have peaced out.

Before them, the Greeks did the exact same thing, and the Babylonians before them.

If you go by Bible, we received the same treatment from the Egyptians but apart from the bible there is little evidence to back that account up.


Jews have been uprooted and robbed of everything MULTIPLE TIMES throughout their history. There have been multiple attempts to exterminate all Jews.
What happened to the Jews was horrific. It was horrible indeed and mostly everybody knows that. I dont see it as being as thorough and systemic as to what happened to black people. If you take any people on the planet and erase their history, culture, values, language, religion, commerce, traditions, wipe out all of their inheritance, wipe out all of the inheritance, wipe out all the sustenance that strengthens them and leave them with no success patterns and reduce them to a commodity, no matter who the people are, they are going suffer. Its like a computer with everything wiped out of it and comparing it to Windows 10. It takes 1000's of years to refine those qualities. And still to this day they are deprived of certain liberties.



Get back to me when the dictator of the most technologically advanced military nation on the planet makes it his personal mission to wipe out all African Americans on the planet, and is successful in wiping out half in some of the most brutal and psychotic massacres ever seen in human history.
As another poster said earlier 12 million Africans die in the middle passage with only 400,000 that survive. Of that set they all experience the wipe out I talk about above. Most experience rape and murder. 70% experience a slavery that readily killed East Indian men when they had to do the same work. Most people can not survive an intellectual and emotional wipe out, much less a wipe out of values and inheritance in a competitive society.

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 03:26 PM
Jews have been uprooted and robbed of everything MULTIPLE TIMES throughout their history. There have been multiple attempts to exterminate all Jews.
Uprooted and robbed of everything means no history, no leaders, no Moses, no language, no books, no religion, no grandparents, a complete whole new identity. When did this happen to the Jews?


If black people in America deserve reparations, all Jews in America deserve reparations as well.
I am totally unaware that the Jews in America put out 300 years of free labor. Did Americans wipe out their natural inheritance? Do you have a clue as to what reparations mean? Please explain this?

NumberSix
07-11-2016, 03:59 PM
Uprooted and robbed of everything means no history, no leaders, no Moses, no language, no books, no religion, no grandparents, a complete whole new identity. When did this happen to the Jews?
It happened to the Jews whose descendants are no longer Jews.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 04:05 PM
What happened to the Jews was horrific. It was horrible indeed and mostly everybody knows that. I dont see it as being as thorough and systemic as to what happened to black people.
LOL are you serious dude? Look up the history of the Jewish people in Europe for the past 1,000 years and tell me you don't see it as "systemic" and "thorough" as what happened to black people.

Do you think that the Jewish people have never been enslaved?

That is only 1,000 years too. If we go back further than that we will see Jewish oppression and slavery from the Greeks, the Romans, the Babylonians, and the first Muslims.

Jewish people have been oppressed and shit on for 3,000+ years. Oppression doesn't get any more "systemic" or "thorough" than what happened to the jews.



If you take any people on the planet and erase their history, culture, values, language, religion, commerce, traditions, wipe out all of their inheritance, wipe out all of the inheritance, wipe out all the sustenance that strengthens them and leave them with no success patterns and reduce them to a commodity, no matter who the people are, they are going suffer.

So many cultures and societies throughout history have tried to do that to the Jews, and even in the face of death and torture Jews did everything they could to preserve their knowledge, culture and traditions. Do you think black people in America had it worse than Jews did? The Romans and Greeks would brutally execute everyone they discovered studying Torah and still Jews kept doing it.




Get back to me when the President of America burns half of all African Americans in an over like Hitler did. Get back to me when the President of America announces that Jews are the reason for every ill in the world and murders 90% of the Jewish population in America, like what Stalin did in Russia. Get back to me when the president of America bans all African Americans from the United States and deports them all through force, like what happened to the Jews in Spain, France and England only a few hundred years ago.

Where are my reparations?

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 04:22 PM
LOL are you serious dude? Look up the history of the Jewish people in Europe for the past 1,000 years and tell me you don't see it as "systemic" and "thorough" as what happened to black people.

That is only 1,000 years too. If we go back further than that we will see Jewish oppression and slavery from the Greeks, the Romans, the Babylonians, and the first Muslims.

Jewish people have been oppressed and shit on for 3,000+ years. Oppression doesn't get any more "systemic" or "thorough" than what happened to the jews.




Get back to me when the President of America burns half of all African Americans in an over like Hitler did. Get back to me when the President of America announces that Jews are the reason for every ill in the world and murders 90% of the Jewish population in America, like what Stalin did in Russia.
Over the course of history, the original jews were black Hebrews. Get it straight.

And let's not act your people have no blood on their hands. What about the Armenian genocide at the hand of your people? You talk about Russia, how many Russians were killed at the behest of the jews? Hell much of the world feels jews are one of the main culprits behind a lot of what's going on today. How did the European Jews end up with Palestine?

All this stems from you getting checked a few pages earlier. Your people recieved reparations from the holocaust. My people got nothing for slavery

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 04:23 PM
Uprooted and robbed of everything means no history, no leaders, no Moses, no language, no books, no religion, no grandparents, a complete whole new identity. When did this happen to the Jews?

Under the Romans, under the Babylonians and under the Greeks, Jews were killed for studying torah. They were burned alive in humiliating public executions and their torah was burned too, which to a Jew is one of the worst things possible.

Rabbi Akiva for example, a great Jewish leader and philosopher was flayed alive by the Romans with an iron comb for the crime of studying and teaching Torah.



I am totally unaware that the Jews in America put out 300 years of free labor. Did Americans wipe out their natural inheritance? Do you have a clue as to what reparations mean? Please explain this?
Are you trying to downplay the murder of my ancestors? I am sure there are many Iranian Americans, German Americans, Spanish Americans and Italian Americans whose ancestors benefited from the work and labor of my ancestors.

I demand reparations for the oppression of my people by the ancestors of Americans who are alive today and benefited from the enslavement, murder, undercompensated labor and rape of my people.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 04:30 PM
Over the course of history, the original jews were black Hebrews. Get it straight.

No they weren't. Stop attempting to appropriate my culture. Also stop trying to minimize the oppression that my people suffered. The original Jews were from Canaan. Here is what people from Canaan look like:

http://www.robertlandau.com/jordan2web/images/Jordanian%20bedouins.jpg

http://www.crystalinks.com/canaanites.jpg

https://peterjfast.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/canaanite.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Lebanese_Opposition.jpg

Stop trying to culturally appropriate the suffering and oppression and slavery of my people.


If you are entitled to reparations for oppression that your people in the past suffered, I as a Jew am entitled to at least the same amount of reparations that you are.


The Holocaust was only 70 years ago bro. It's not ancient history. Many people who burned my people in ovens are still alive and walking around in freedom and peace today.


Check your privilege and stop appropriating my culture.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 04:32 PM
No they weren't. Stop attempting to appropriate my culture. Also stop trying to minimize the oppression that my people suffered. The original Jews were from Canaan. Here is what people from Canaan look like:

http://www.robertlandau.com/jordan2web/images/Jordanian%20bedouins.jpg

http://www.crystalinks.com/canaanites.jpg

https://peterjfast.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/canaanite.jpg

Stop trying to culturally appropriate the suffering and oppression and slavery of my people.


If you are entitled to reparations for oppression that your people in the past suffered, I as a Jew am entitled to at least the same amount of reparations that you are.


The Holocaust was only 70 years ago bro. It's not ancient history. Many people who burned my people in ovens are still alive and walking around in freedom and peace today.


Check your privilege and stop appropriating my culture.
Lol. How old are those pictures????? And jews are a religion not a race. Andone can be a jew. Hold on.....

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 04:37 PM
Lol. How old are those pictures????? And jews are a religion not a race. Andone can be a jew. Hold on.....

Jews are an ethnicity, you have to be born in to the religion. Yes anyone can convert but it is a long and extensive three year process and not many go through it.


And let's not act your people have no blood on their hands. What about the Armenian genocide at the hand of your people? You talk about Russia, how many Russians were killed at the behest of the jews?

Seriously, what the **** are you even talking about?:facepalm



Hell much of the world feels jews are one of the main culprits behind a lot of what's going on today.

Exactly. Antisemitic bigots like you still exist. Old school style medieval Judenhass never went away. We Jews are still scapegoated and blamed for everything bad that ever happens in the world. Now I am hearing we are responsible for the Armenian genocide. next I will be hearing that the Dallas shooter was paid by Jews or something.:facepalm


This is exactly why we Jews have it worse.

People like you truly believe that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a real document and not a forged hoax designed to inspire antisemitism. People like you read Mein Kampf and think that Hitler has a good point.

All of that suffering and oppression and mass murder and slavery we went through and we are still blamed for everything that goes wrong in the world. Even you, a black man who knows what true racism and oppression looks like, and whose ancestors were enslaved, are blaming us and scapegoating us for shit we have nothing to do with.

That is what true oppression and discrimination looks like.


Where are my reparations?

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 04:59 PM
LOL are you serious dude? Look up the history of the Jewish people in Europe for the past 1,000 years and tell me you don't see it as "systemic" and "thorough" as what happened to black people.
Which is more thorough? I delete single files on a computer over a 5 year period of time or if I erase the hard drive? The amount of time has nothing to do with its thoroughness. This isnt a hard concept to understand.



So many cultures and societies throughout history have tried to do that to the Jews, and even in the face of death and torture Jews did everything they could to preserve their knowledge, culture and traditions. Do you think black people in America had it worse than Jews did? The Romans and Greeks would brutally execute everyone they discovered studying Torah and still Jews kept doing it.
Blacks were killed for just reading or writing, much less the Torah. Which one do you think is more thorough?



Get back to me when the President of America burns half of all African Americans in an over like Hitler did. Get back to me when the President of America announces that Jews are the reason for every ill in the world and murders 90% of the Jewish population in America, like what Stalin did in Russia. Get back to me when the president of America bans all African Americans from the United States and deports them all through force, like what happened to the Jews in Spain, France and England only a few hundred years ago.

Where are my reparations?
You said Jews deserve American reparations as much as African Americans. What are you basing this on?

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 05:03 PM
Which is more thorough? I delete single files on a computer over a 5 year period of time or if I erase the hard drive? The amount of time has nothing to do with its thoroughness. This isnt a hard concept to understand.

Blacks were killed for just reading or writing, much less the Torah. Which one do you think is more thorough?


You said Jews deserve American reparations as much as African Americans. What are you basing this on?
Systematic extermination is definitively more "thorough" than anything black people in America have ever gone through.

You don't have a leg to stand on here bro.

Jews deserve American reparations because the ancestors of Americans oppressed my ancestors. Many ancestors of Americans are responsible for the murder and oppression of my people through history.

If black Americans are demanding reparations because of what peoples ancestors possibly did to their ancestors and have a case, than every Jew in America has a stronger case for reparations.


ALSO don't forget-who was trading black people to the Americans and Europeans? OTHER BLACK PEOPLE. Africans are just as responsible for the trans-Atlantic slave trade as Americans are.

I hope that black Americans are demanding reparations from West African nations as well. Africans kidnapped, enslaved and traded their fellow Africans to America for guns, textiles and gold. It is shameful what happened to African slaves, but white people are not the only ones to blame for it. The Africans doing the trading and initial capture of slaves are equally responsible. And it is a fact that many prominent African leaders currently in government today have ancestors who were slave traders.

It is also a fact that black slavers were the first ones to reintroduce the idea of slavery back to mainstream European culture. Slavery was largely banned across Europe due to the influence of Christianity before African and Arab slavers brought the idea back to European culture by offering humans in exchange for gunpowder, weapons and woven fabrics to Portugese explorers.

If the US government owes African Americans reparations, than so do the governments of West African nations who did business with American slavers.

NumberSix
07-11-2016, 05:04 PM
Over the course of history, the original jews were black Hebrews. Get it straight.

And let's not act your people have no blood on their hands. What about the Armenian genocide at the hand of your people? You talk about Russia, how many Russians were killed at the behest of the jews? Hell much of the world feels jews are one of the main culprits behind a lot of what's going on today. How did the European Jews end up with Palestine?

All this stems from you getting checked a few pages earlier. Your people recieved reparations from the holocaust. My people got nothing for slavery
Lol. It finally comes out that 97 bulls is a Jewluminatti black Israelite.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 05:11 PM
Lol. It finally comes out that 97 bulls is a Jewluminatti black Israelite.
It always does dude. Probe them long enough and the Jew World Order conspiracy antisemitic bullshit ALWAYS comes out from these people, usually unintentionally on their part. I'd estimate that probably 80-90% of lefties believe at least some aspect of the Jew World Order Jewluminatti lunatic conspiracy theories.


Just like back in the day a majority of Europeans believed that Jews kidnapped children and ground them up in to flour to make matzah.

Some things never change.

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 05:20 PM
Under the Romans, under the Babylonians and under the Greeks, Jews were killed for studying torah. They were burned alive in humiliating public executions and their torah was burned too, which to a Jew is one of the worst things possible.

Rabbi Akiva for example, a great Jewish leader and philosopher was flayed alive by the Romans with an iron comb for the crime of studying and teaching Torah. Blacks were burnt alive frequently just 70 years ago. Romans treated every body bad and even committed genocide on an African tribe.


Are you trying to downplay the murder of my ancestors? I am sure there are many Iranian Americans, German Americans, Spanish Americans and Italian Americans whose ancestors benefited from the work and labor of my ancestors.

You are definitely trying to downplay the African American plight. Thats what I'm calling out.
You cant get reparations from ethnicities. It has to be an institution that profited from exploiting others. What institutions you think should owe up in America?

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 05:24 PM
Blacks were burnt alive frequently just 70 years ago. Romans treated every body bad and even committed genocide on an African tribe.

You are definitely trying to downplay the African American plight. Thats what I'm calling out.

You're an embarrassment. Stop trying to argue now. You should be ashamed of yourself for your bigoted and backwards views.



You cant get reparations from ethnicities. It has to be an institution that profited from exploiting others. What institutions you think should owe up in America?
Really? Who said this? Who made the reparations rules? Who is the moral arbiter of which ethnic group gets reparations and which doesn't?

You?

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 05:37 PM
Systematic extermination is definitively more "thorough" than anything black people in America have ever gone through.

You don't have a leg to stand on here bro.

Jews deserve American reparations because the ancestors of Americans oppressed my ancestors. Many ancestors of Americans are responsible for the murder and oppression of my people through history.

If black Americans are demanding reparations because of what peoples ancestors possibly did to their ancestors and have a case, than every Jew in America has a stronger case for reparations.
Reparations has little to do with ancestors. Its about the institutions that profited from the exploitation which is why German banks paid Israel reparations.

America went from being a Hobo nation to an economic powerhouse on the backs of Black Americans free labor.

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 05:44 PM
You're an embarrassment. Stop trying to argue now. You should be ashamed of yourself for your bigoted and backwards views.
Name me one backward or bigoted thing I said.




Really? Who said this? Who made the reparations rules? Who is the moral arbiter of which ethnic group gets reparations and which doesn't?

You?
Read up on it. Or just read up on the reparations Germany paid out.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 05:52 PM
Systematic extermination is definitively more "thorough" than anything black people in America have ever gone through.

You don't have a leg to stand on here bro.

Jews deserve American reparations because the ancestors of Americans oppressed my ancestors. Many ancestors of Americans are responsible for the murder and oppression of my people through history.

If black Americans are demanding reparations because of what peoples ancestors possibly did to their ancestors and have a case, than every Jew in America has a stronger case for reparations.


ALSO don't forget-who was trading black people to the Americans and Europeans? OTHER BLACK PEOPLE. Africans are just as responsible for the trans-Atlantic slave trade as Americans are.

I hope that black Americans are demanding reparations from West African nations as well. Africans kidnapped, enslaved and traded their fellow Africans to America for guns, textiles and gold. It is shameful what happened to African slaves, but white people are not the only ones to blame for it. The Africans doing the trading and initial capture of slaves are equally responsible. And it is a fact that many prominent African leaders currently in government today have ancestors who were slave traders.

It is also a fact that black slavers were the first ones to reintroduce the idea of slavery back to mainstream European culture. Slavery was largely banned across Europe due to the influence of Christianity before African and Arab slavers brought the idea back to European culture by offering humans in exchange for gunpowder, weapons and woven fabrics to Portugese explorers.

If the US government owes African Americans reparations, than so do the governments of West African nations who did business with American slavers.
Dude. No one is caping for reparations. Were not gonna get them. YOU tried to come up with that pick yourself up by you'd boot strap nonsense like your Jews did after the holocaust. I checked you by saying your ancestors recieved payment for what happened during the holocaust. Mine didn't.

The Jews that were killed in Germany ARE NOT the same Jewish Hebrews that were killed by the Babylonians or Romans. In fact, the Romans Empire was the start of the White Jewish Empire that has trickled down today. You guys killed Jesus. Your people were behind the Bolshevik revolution that killed 60+ million Russians and ArmenIan genocide.

I asked you this before, how did you end up with Palestine?

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 05:53 PM
Dude. No one is caping for reparations. Were not gonna get them. YOU tried to come up with that pick yourself up by you'd boot strap nonsense like your Jews did after the holocaust. I checked you by saying your ancestors recieved payment for what happened during the holocaust. Mine didn't.

The Jews that were killed in Germany ARE NOT the same Jewish Hebrews that were killed by the Babylonians or Romans. In fact, the Romans Empire was the start of the White Jewish Empire that has trickled down today. You guys killed Jesus. Your people were behind the Bolshevik revolution that killed 60+ million Russians and ArmenIan genocide.

I asked you this before, how did you end up with Palestine?
You're in it deep with this Jew World Order nonsense, aren't you bro :lol

I don't have Palestine. I'm an American, not an Israel. We Jews aren't a hivemind.

You've already have revealed your true colors dude. I got nothing more to say here.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 05:54 PM
Lol. It finally comes out that 97 bulls is a Jewluminatti black Israelite.
No. I'm a black man that's well versed in his ancestry. Let me ask you a question, are you religious?

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 05:55 PM
Reparations has little to do with ancestors. Its about the institutions that profited from the exploitation which is why German banks paid Israel reparations.

America went from being a Hobo nation to an economic powerhouse on the backs of Black Americans free labor.
We actually only became an economic powerhouse AFTER slavery was outlawed and the industrial revolution came to America.


#facts
#history
#logic
#reallife

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 05:57 PM
You're in it deep with this Jew World Order nonsense, aren't you bro :lol

I don't have Palestine. I'm an American, not an Israel. We Jews aren't a hivemind.

You've already have revealed your true colors dude. I got nothing more to say here.
Off course you don't. Cuz all you can do is talk about the atrocities played out on you. But once you get exposed for your ****ery, you want to shut it down. Too bad. It don't work like that. The fact is there's two sides till every story. That includes the story of the European Jews

NumberSix
07-11-2016, 06:00 PM
Reparations has little to do with ancestors. Its about the institutions that profited from the exploitation which is why German banks paid Israel reparations.

America went from being a Hobo nation to an economic powerhouse on the backs of Black Americans free labor.
America was dead broke after the civil war and had to start over from scratch. At this point in time, the British Empire was the world's superpower and continued to be for another half century.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 06:02 PM
I don't have Palestine. I'm an American, not an Israel. We Jews aren't a hivemind.
I missed responding to this. So now you're an American. Lol. Do you even know why there's conflict in Israel/Palestine? Because the Muslims claim that the Jews kicked them out after WW2 With US and British backing.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 06:05 PM
America was dead broke after the civil war and had to start over from scratch. At this point in time, the British Empire was the world's superpower and continued to be for another half century.
Lol they had just been in a war Six.

NumberSix
07-11-2016, 06:09 PM
Lol they had just been in a war Six.
Yeah, that's the point that was made. They had just been in a war that had left the country broke and hundreds of thousands dead. Any wealth from the days of slavery was gone.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 06:13 PM
Yeah, that's the point that was made. They had just been in a war that had left the country broke and hundreds of thousands dead. Any wealth from the days of slavery was gone.
But the land was there. And Blacks got none of it or not enough to mention.

NumberSix
07-11-2016, 06:14 PM
But the land was there. And Blacks got none of it or not enough to mention.
That's an entirely different matter.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 06:15 PM
Six.....are you religious? And If so, what denomination?

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 06:15 PM
That's an entirely different matter.
Fair enough

longtime lurker
07-11-2016, 06:21 PM
They're different to you?



I'm beginning to wonder if some here are legit sociopathic. And I'm not being sarcastic either.


Is it merely trolling because you want to antagonize people here (which in itself is mental illness given the amount some of you do)

Or is it flat out that we share this board with some here that are just sick.



You questioned him like he said something outlandish to compare human lives with lives from other regions of the world. Unreal



This board really is filled with some severe scumbags.

https://www.theguardian.com/media-network/media-network-blog/2014/sep/18/psychology-internet-trolls-pewdiepie-youtube-mary-beard

This pretty much describes all the trolls on this site, especially the ones in this very thread.

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 06:59 PM
I missed responding to this. So now you're an American. Lol. Do you even know why there's conflict in Israel/Palestine? Because the Muslims claim that the Jews kicked them out after WW2 With US and British backing.
I was always an American :hammerhead:

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 07:59 PM
I was always an American :hammerhead:
So am I. But that's my Nationality. My race is Black. You are I assume caucasian. How you feel that anything that has happened to a religious group of people regardless of race only aplies to you is beyond me.

This link shows shows pictures of what jews and jesus looked like. And can be seen today in the cited museums. I wanted to actually post the pictures but I'm using my phone. I'd like to get your thoughts.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Jesus/Jesus.htm

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 08:09 PM
So am I. But that's my Nationality. My race is Black. You are I assume caucasian. How you feel that anything that has happened to a religious group of people regardless of race only aplies to you is beyond me.

This link shows shows pictures of what jews and jesus looked like. And can be seen today in the cited museums. I wanted to actually post the pictures but I'm using my phone. I'd like to get your thoughts.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Jesus/Jesus.htm
Dude-if Jesus was black if the Canaanites were black like Sudanese and not people who live today in Canaan-I DON'T CARE. That's cool. I'm fine with it and I wish we truly were able to go back in time and see exactly what people in Israel looked like back then and how they behaved. They were still Jews, and I am still a Jew. They are my people and I am their people.

I believe that certainly the first Jews and Jesus were dark skinned but I highly doubt that they were black like sub-Saharan Africans in the way that you and the article you posted are claiming.

But if they were? Cool. It would be awesome to learn the truth, whatever it may be.

However

You right now are trying to rob me of my culture and my cultural identity. This is the very thing Point Guard previously spoke out against in this very thread only about a page back. These are the same tactics that Neo-Nazis, Islamist terrorists and KKK members use when they promote their hate against Jews.


You are also attempting to culturally appropriate the oppression of my people and attach it to yourself.


If the first Jews were black-so what? There is no way to prove if they were or weren't either way. Are you trying to imply that myself and all other non-black Jews on the planet are not real Jews now? Because that is what it seems you are hinting at and trying to imply :hammerhead:

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 08:20 PM
We actually only became an economic powerhouse slavery was outlawed and the industrial revolution came to America.


#facts
#history
#logic
#reallife
Well you termed something right!!! I met two people in the last ten years that were sharecroppers. It was slavery and financed by banks. Reparations for blacks is heavily entrenched in sharecropping and that ends around 1955 ish. Was very strong in the 1920's. Well after the industrial revolution took off and America became an economic powerhouse.

west_tip
07-11-2016, 08:30 PM
Pointguard, if America became an economic powerhouse on the back of slavery why was the agrarian South poorer than the North not only before the Civil war but long after?

Surely the Confederacy could have leveraged their inbuilt advantage of having access to slave labor in order to defeat the Union?

Nick Young
07-11-2016, 08:32 PM
Pointguard, if America became an economic powerhouse on the back of slavery why was the agrarian South poorer than the North not only before the Civil war but long after?

Surely the Confederacy could have leveraged their inbuilt advantage of having access to slave labor in order to defeat the Union?
Facts? Logic? How dare you!

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 08:43 PM
Pointguard, if America became an economic powerhouse on the back of slavery why was the agrarian South poorer than the North not only before the Civil war but long after?

Surely the Confederacy could have leveraged their inbuilt advantage of having access to slave labor in order to defeat the Union?
The Banks were in NY and Boston. NY was the financial capital. Individuals did very well in the South.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 08:44 PM
Dude-if Jesus was black if the Canaanites were black like Sudanese and not people who live today in Canaan-I DON'T CARE. That's cool. I'm fine with it and I wish we truly were able to go back in time and see exactly what people in Israel looked like back then and how they behaved. They were still Jews, and I am still a Jew. They are my people and I am their people.

I believe that certainly the first Jews and Jesus were dark skinned but I highly doubt that they were black like sub-Saharan Africans in the way that you and the article you posted are claiming.

But if they were? Cool. It would be awesome to learn the truth, whatever it may be.

However

You right now are trying to rob me of my culture and my cultural identity. This is the very thing Point Guard previously spoke out against in this very thread only about a page back. These are the same tactics that Neo-Nazis, Islamist terrorists and KKK members use when they promote their hate against Jews.


You are also attempting to culturally appropriate the oppression of my people and attach it to yourself.


If the first Jews were black-so what? There is no way to prove if they were or weren't either way. Are you trying to imply that myself and all other non-black Jews on the planet are not real Jews now? Because that is what it seems you are hinting at and trying to imply :hammerhead:
I'm not trying to attack your heritage bro. Or your culture. My only point is that a Jew can be any race. There's a variety of Jews. Some dark. Some black. The Jews in the picture you displayed don't look like the Jews that's were in the Holocaust. I'm talking about a race of people.

What this boils down to is the notion that you feel blacks "gave up" as you put it where as your people marched on. In reference to the Holocaust. Which was an atrocious act to say the least. What Hitler did to those people was terrible. But you guys did get help bouncing back. We didn't. That's all I'm saying.

Now why blacks are in the position their in today? There's many reasons. But they sure as hell aren't all the problem of blacks themselves. Would you agree?

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 08:52 PM
Pointguard, if America became an economic powerhouse on the back of slavery why was the agrarian South poorer than the North not only before the Civil war but long after?

Surely the Confederacy could have leveraged their inbuilt advantage of having access to slave labor in order to defeat the Union?
It's my understanding that the south was doing just fine that's why they wanted to break away from the Union. They didn't want to pay taxes and Tariffs to help the North stay financially solvent.

KyrieTheFuture
07-11-2016, 08:57 PM
It's my understanding that the south was doing just fine that's why they wanted to break away from the Union. They didn't want to pay taxes and Tariffs to help the North stay financially solvent.
Well then you have a baffling misunderstanding of American History

Pointguard
07-11-2016, 09:29 PM
It's my understanding that the south was doing just fine that's why they wanted to break away from the Union. They didn't want to pay taxes and Tariffs to help the North stay financially solvent.
I gather that one in six people were slaves in 1800 for all of America. In the south, probably close to equal in terms of all around numbers. Bring in the cotton gin and now you got the labor of about 20 people from one slave in a day. The only way they are not being rich is by totally wasting their money.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 09:41 PM
Well then you have a baffling misunderstanding of American History
Well then enlightenment me. I'm always willing to learn.

97 bulls
07-11-2016, 09:48 PM
I gather that one in six people were slaves in 1800 for all of America. In the south, probably close to equal in terms of all around numbers. Bring in the cotton gin and now you got the labor of about 20 people from one slave in a day. The only way they are not being rich is by totally wasting their money.
That was with regards to the North. But the south?



American History
Civil War - History of the Civil War


1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

With Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton.

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However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes.

So the invent if the cotton gin garnered a need for MORE slaves to harvest the cotton

Nick Young
07-12-2016, 12:16 AM
I'm not trying to attack your heritage bro. Or your culture. My only point is that a Jew can be any race. There's a variety of Jews. Some dark. Some black. The Jews in the picture you displayed don't look like the Jews that's were in the Holocaust. I'm talking about a race of people.

What this boils down to is the notion that you feel blacks "gave up" as you put it where as your people marched on. In reference to the Holocaust. Which was an atrocious act to say the least. What Hitler did to those people was terrible. But you guys did get help bouncing back. We didn't. That's all I'm saying.

Now why blacks are in the position their in today? There's many reasons. But they sure as hell aren't all the problem of blacks themselves. Would you agree?
Dude yes I agree black people are definitely victims of unfair circumstances. Also, I know that there are Jews of all races and skin colors (communities in China+Mexico+Ethiopia for example).

I don't feel that blacks gave up. I was asking you if the right thing to do was just give up because you were doom and glooming and talking about how hopeless the situation is. All I was saying is other ethnic groups have gone through shit hopeless situations too but they kept going and shit worked out. For some ethnicities, it didn't work out, like the Inca, or Native north American tribes for example, but shit that's how life is sometimes, it's definitely not fair.


Jews only got help bouncing back for the first time like 70 years ago. No one gave us help in the Eastern European pogroms (we have a family story where my great great grandparents were in Siberia and cossacks would periodically raid their village and rape and kill, and my great great grandfather saw a pregnant woman get her belly sliced open and the cossack dragged the baby out and then threw it against a wall). Those kinds of pogroms were going on against Jews for about 1500 years in Europe non-stop. Countries like Spain, France and England would go through periods of inviting Jews to settle, then scapegoating them, then deporting them in mass. When Jews tried to settle and make their own villages, the common people would attack and raid them for fun every time they got bored. Jews were said to kidnap children to sacrifice and use their bones to make matzah for Shabbot every Friday. Jews were scapegoated by political leaders every time something bad happened.

In the middle east the Arab Muslims would go through periods of tolerating Jews and wanting to kill them all. Have you ever asked yourself why there are no longer any communities of Jews in the Middle East outside of Israel? Do you think it was always like that? The Muslims drove us out. Now a few small communities exist in Yemen and Oman and Jordan but that's it. Before that in Israel the Romans, Greeks and Babylonians all took our land from us and tried to wipe out our religion and stop us from practicing it, and also enslaved us.

No one helped us for 3,400 years, and guess what, modern Israel has been in a near constant state of war since it's inception so it is not the greatest reparation in the world either and it's not like we are suddenly accepted all of a sudden.

People like you for example still genuinely believe Jews are responsible for the Armenian genocide and a ton of other ****ed up shit and scapegoat us and blame us as some kind of secret conspiracy that controls world affairs. All we need is for more people like you to come in to power politically and we'll go back to the era of pogroms and persecution that we have always gone through since the beginning.

I am honestly just annoyed when I hear black people complain about how they have had it worse than any group of people in history and how much free shit they want and constantly playing the victim rather than fight through the bullshit and overcome it. Black people in America have had a tough time but it can be so much worse and many other ethnicities in America have suffered much worse than African-Americans have and don't complain half as loudly as some of you guys do.


ALSO you keep saying you get no help?

What are affirmative action laws? What are all these government sponsored black people only scholarships? When I was in university there was even a professor who came in and offered extra classes for free only to the black kids, it was some kind of diversity program designed to give extra help and support to all the black students. No one of any other race or ethnicity got that extra help. What more do you want? Realistically what else do you want the government to do to help black people?

TonyMontana
07-12-2016, 01:39 AM
Blacks need to make this an inhouse movement, rather than a "**** whitey" movement.

Blacks kill eachother in record numbers. So it's not whitey that's devaluing the blacks lives, it's other blacks.

A large number of the black community is full of loser fathers that abandon their families, drug addicts, extreme promiscuity, criminals. A lot of the blacks that are hardworking or "make it" do what they can to turn their back on the african communities as fast as possible and gtfo to the "white" areas. so you have the good ones leave, and wonder why the community is fuked.

pouring money into something never works, that isn't the answer. you got to restructure the culture completely. Ironically more free money is what the liberals promise, because who wouldn't like free money? They are not being honest about what is needed to truly change/improve the community and just tell the people what they want to hear.

97 bulls
07-12-2016, 04:04 AM
Dude yes I agree black people are definitely victims of unfair circumstances. Also, I know that there are Jews of all races and skin colors (communities in China+Mexico+Ethiopia for example).

I don't feel that blacks gave up. I was asking you if the right thing to do was just give up because you were doom and glooming and talking about how hopeless the situation is.
See. Again. Where is this comming from? Go back and look at the context of the conversation. A poster asked why we don't get a spot of our own and run it ourselves. I stated we tried that, and it was destroyed. You chimed in and stated something about how we gave up and your people didn't (alluding to the Holocaust) I don't think it's giving up because they're not gonna let us have it even if we deserve it. And if it's done by force, then we will be demonized. But again, it's a moot point. It won't happen.


I am honestly just annoyed when I hear black people complain about how they have had it worse than any group of people in history and how much free shit they want and constantly playing the victim rather than fight through the bullshit and overcome it. Black people in America have had a tough time but it can be so much worse and many other ethnicities in America have suffered much worse than African-Americans have and don't complain half as loudly as some of you guys do.
But in the US? NO race of people have suffered as much as we have. And I don't see why we as black people should be viewd as complainers because we want to be treated just like every other race. We've seen video after video of the zero tolerance policy police exhibit when it comes to blacks and the extremely tolerant method in which they handle white counterparts. I have posted video after video of police officers showing AMAZING restraint when it comes to dealing with white people and you guys choose to ignore it. Look at the police treated Philando Cattille's girlfriend after he was murdered. Guns drawn, they make her walk up to her with her back to them, and them they make her get on the ground. Contrast that with Dillan Roof. This man killed 9 people in cold blood. They walked up to his car guns holstered, and then took him to Burger King. You dont see some thing wrong with this?????


ALSO you keep saying you get no help?

What are affirmative action laws? What are all these government sponsored black people only scholarships? When I was in university there was even a professor who came in and offered extra classes for free only to the black kids, it was some kind of diversity program designed to give extra help and support to all the black students. No one of any other race or ethnicity got that extra help. What more do you want? Realistically what else do you want the government to do to help black people?
Dude. I never stated that blacks don't get help. I said ALL RACES GET HELP. Affirmative action's biggest recipeient is white women. All minorities get scholarships etc.

Again. We will stop comppainting when you start treating us like human beings. It's funny that you say we should fight, but then bitch at us fighting. What's wrong with you.?

Nick Young
07-12-2016, 04:14 AM
But in the US? NO race of people have suffered as much as we have. And I don't see why we as black people should be viewd as complainers because we want to be treated just like every other race.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ityxEe91px0/maxresdefault.jpg



Again. We will stop comppainting when you start treating us like human beings. It's funny that you say we should fight, but then bitch at us fighting. What's wrong with you.?

You don't feel like you're treated like a human being in America?

97 bulls
07-12-2016, 10:14 AM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ityxEe91px0/maxresdefault.jpg
No I dont. What happened to the original Natives was messed up. But not as bad as us.




You don't feel like you're treated like a human being in America?
No I dont. Not collectively. Let me ask you a question. How much flack did those white parents receive for the Alligator killing their kid? Compare that to that parents of thr black kid that fell in the Gorilla pit. Or how Dillan Roof, a man that killed 9 people in cold blood, was treated vs how that woman was treated after the police shot and killed her boyfriend. Or just the quick rush to judgemention when it comes to blacks in general.

I'd like your input.

NumberSix
07-12-2016, 10:23 AM
No I dont. What happened to the original Natives was messed up. But not as bad as us.




No I dont. Not collectively. Let me ask you a question. How much flack did those white parents receive for the Alligator killing their kid? Compare that to that parents of thr black kid that fell in the Gorilla pit. Or how Dillan Roof, a man that killed 9 people in cold blood, was treated vs how that woman was treated after the police shot and killed her boyfriend. Or just the quick rush to judgemention when it comes to blacks in general.

I'd like your input.
Do you doubt that if Dylan Roof resisted arrest and reached for his gun that he would have been shot by the police? Cops kill 2x as many whites as blacks, so it's not like cops are shy about using their guns when the person is white.

If the black guy in Baton Rouge was as compliant when being arrested as Dylan Roof was, do you think they still would have shot him? They had already tazed him 2x and he was still resisting arrest.

Honest question. What was the key factor of him eventually getting shot? The fact the he was resisting arrest even after attempts of using tazers to subdue him or.... that he's black?

Sadly, I expect absolutely no honesty in your response.

97 bulls
07-12-2016, 10:39 AM
Blacks need to make this an inhouse movement, rather than a "**** whitey" movement.

Blacks kill eachother in record numbers. So it's not whitey that's devaluing the blacks lives, it's other blacks.
See. It's this rhetoric here. You want to spout the cause but not the effect.


A large number of the black community is full of loser fathers that abandon their families, drug addicts, extreme promiscuity, criminals.


A lot of the blacks that are hardworking or "make it" do what they can to turn their back on the african communities as fast as possible and gtfo to the "white" areas. so you have the good ones leave, and wonder why the community is fuked.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf

Lol. All men cheat. Bro. Whites do drugs just as much as blacks do. Even more.



pouring money into something never works, that isn't the answer. you got to restructure the culture completely. Ironically more free money is what the liberals promise, because who wouldn't like free money? They are not being honest about what is needed to truly change/improve the community and just tell the people what they want to hear.
I do agree here. Blacks need to become more self sufficient. But I don't see how blacks aren't being honest. We know there's a problem. You just don't want to accept it

TheMan
07-12-2016, 10:46 AM
Mexicans used to eat people and practice human sacrifice because they believed that the sun wouldn't rise unless they ripped people's hearts out.

They were a culture and society ruled by 1%er bloodthirsty murder hungry coke addicts-so in other words, not much has changed in 500 years.

http://i.imgur.com/AliNrBi.gif

Back when the Mexicans first figured out their ability to eat people and rip their hearts out and throw them down pyramids, China had already invented paper, gunpowder and the abacus.


Apart from good food, what has Mexico done to benefit the world?
You're mistaking Mexicans with Aztecs, which aren't the same. By the time Mexico came into existence, the Aztecs were decimated and human sacrifice had long been prohibited. I'm Mexican, not Aztec.

In the sake of fairness, let's remind everyone that while China was a civilization, Jews were being bullied around and being enslaved, plus that whole wandering the desert for 40 years like homeless idiots debacle. :lol

If it weren't for the UN, they'd still be homeless today :yaohappy:

97 bulls
07-12-2016, 11:00 AM
Do you doubt that if Dylan Roof resisted arrest and reached for his gun that he would have been shot by the police? Cops kill 2x as many whites as blacks, so it's not like cops are shy about using their guns when the person is white.
Don't come at with the BS Six. Youre being intellectually dishonest here. There is a tremendous difference between a rate and collective. Most crime is committed by white men collectively. But you'd rather talk about the rate at which a group (in this case black) would commit crime. But sense cops kill blacks at a higher rate doesn't fit your narrative, you'll bring the collective argument.


If the black guy in Baton Rouge was as compliant when being arrested as Dylan Roof was, do you think they still would have shot him? They had already tazed him 2x and he was still resisting arrest.

I wasn't comparing them. I was coming THE GIRLFRIEND of the man shot in Minnesota to Roof. Please respond.


Honest question. What was the key factor of him eventually getting shot? The fact the he was resisting arrest even after attempts of using tazers to subdue him or.... that he's black?
He resisted. No one is arguing this. The argument is the unnecessary use of force. ESPECIALLY WHEN it never happenseen to white men. Collectively.


Sadly, I expect absolutely no honesty in your response.
I don't see why. My whole argument has always been the difference in how white suspects and black suspects are treated. Sadly, you refuse to acknowledge this fact.

Hawker
07-12-2016, 11:01 AM
You're mistaking Mexicans with Aztecs, which aren't the same. By the time Mexico came into existence, the Aztecs were decimated and human sacrifice had long been prohibited. I'm Mexican, not Aztec.

In the sake of fairness, let's remind everyone that while China was a civilization, Jews were being bullied around and being enslaved, plus that whole wandering the desert for 40 years like homeless idiots debacle. :lol

If it weren't for the UN, they'd still be homeless today :yaohappy:

When will Mexico give their land back to the Aztecs?

97 bulls
07-12-2016, 11:04 AM
Again. I've challenged all of you to produce one video where a cop shows no restrain when it comes to having to shoot a white man. Just one. And you can't do it. I can show a plethora of videos of cops showing nothing but restraint. And even more situations where the white man probably should be put down. But because they're life is valued, they don't.

Hawker
07-12-2016, 11:07 AM
Again. I've challenged all of you to produce one video where a cop shows no restrain when it comes to having to shoot a white man. Just one. And you can't do it. I can show a plethora of videos of cops showing nothing but restraint. And even more situations where the white man probably should be put down. But because they're life is valued, they don't.

Can you show a video of any of the single cops that have shot black people showing restraint to white people?

NumberSix
07-12-2016, 11:32 AM
Don't come at with the BS Six. Youre being intellectually dishonest here. There is a tremendous difference between a rate and collective. Most crime is committed by white men collectively. But you'd rather talk about the rate at which a group (in this case black) would commit crime.
I'm not talking about rates, volume or whatever.


But sense cops kill blacks at a higher rate doesn't fit your narrative, you'll bring the collective argument.
I don't have a narrative. Simply a preemptive strike on your "cops don't kill whites. Show me ONE case. You can't do it" idiocy. The percentages are different, but obviously cop killings of whites do happen. They are in reality the majority of cop killings so only a monumentally stupid person rambles on with this "it never happens to whites. You can't show me a single case" retardedness.



He resisted. No one is arguing this. The argument is the unnecessary use of force. ESPECIALLY WHEN it never happenseen to white men. Collectively.
I have no idea if the force used was unnecessary or not and neither do you. The video only starts after the initial use of force and multiple attempts to subdue him with a taser. Maybe the initial use of force was warranted, maybe it wasn't. Only one of us is dishonestly pretending to know.


I don't see why. My whole argument has always been the difference in how white suspects and black suspects are treated. Sadly, you refuse to acknowledge this fact.
What fact? On the matter of lethal force, there is no basis to say they're treated differently. On other things like being pulled over, handcuffed, frisked and things like that blacks are statistically treated worse. That's just a fact. On the matter of shooting though, there is absolutely no basis to say cops are quicker to shoot blacks than whites. There's just no data that confirms such a claim. I don't care if you "believe" it's true or if it "feels" true. It's just not.

Again. I've challenged all of you to produce one video where a cop shows no restrain when it comes to having to shoot a white man. Just one. And you can't do it.
I have many times and you immediately go back to pretending you've never seen it. The problem is you're a fundamentally dishonest person.

There's one that just happened a few days ago. A 19 year old white kid in California named Dylan Noble lying face down in the ground and the police shoot him in the back. The video is on YouTube. So you can him your list of police shootings that your pretend to not know about after one of your disingenuous "show me one, just one. You can't" rants.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-12-2016, 11:34 AM
Native Americans were treated worse than ANY other "race" in this country.

Only difference is they don't complain about it, or use it as a crutch for EVERYTHING like certain people from certain "minority" groups do.

NumberSix
07-12-2016, 11:51 AM
Native Americans were treated worse than ANY other "race" in this country.

Only difference is they don't complain about it, or use it as a crutch for EVERYTHING like certain people from certain "minority" groups do.
Treated worse by who? The natives tribes weren't all sunshine and lollipops before the Europeans showed up. They were basically savages who routinely engaged in genocides, ethnic cleansing, slavery, torture and every other savagery you can imagine. They weren't 1 people. It wasn't 1 big country like today. It was many smaller nations of people with the stronger ones committing savagery on the weaker ones. The Europeans were no worse than the tribes that were the toughest dudes on the block before some even tougher dudes moved in.

But if the "who" you are referring to is the Europeans, then by "treated worse" you must mean, fought a war and lost.

Dresta
07-12-2016, 11:57 AM
The Banks were in NY and Boston. NY was the financial capital. Individuals did very well in the South.
Sorry, is your implication here that the slaveholding interest and the banking interest were the same? It's simply not true; the South provided the only consistent opposition in Congress to the bankers and land speculators who often controlled it--tis probably the best thing about the South, as well as its lasting legacy (need for integrity and public virtue in politics, a detestation of the power of patronage and the corruption of politics by money).

The New England Emigrant Aid Company had the support of all the major banks and financial interests of the north east; the banks and New York merchants specifically worked to make Kansas a free state because the rapid expansion and filling of the West would create more markets for their own goods, and because a free state was likely a better customer than a slave state.

The agrarians hated finance; the two great interests here were diametrically opposed, and had a lot to do with all the fighting and opportunism that preceded the war.



See. It's this rhetoric here. You want to spout the cause but not the effect.




A lot of the blacks that are hardworking or "make it" do what they can to turn their back on the african communities as fast as possible and gtfo to the "white" areas. so you have the good ones leave, and wonder why the community is fuked.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf

Lol. All men cheat. Bro. Whites do drugs just as much as blacks do. Even more.



I do agree here. Blacks need to become more self sufficient. But I don't see how blacks aren't being honest. We know there's a problem. You just don't want to accept it
That is all true; nevertheless, whites have got much worse at these things (maintaining stable family environment, drug abuse) since the 1960s, and the growth of a vast white underclass has been the result (and they are dying off at--I think--even faster rates than blacks).

Honestly, the toxic radicalism of the 1960s has undermined the wellbeing of blacks and of whites tremendously. The constant media focus on blacks drives resentment amongst poor whites, and understandably so, because their lives suck too, and no-one gives a shit (indeed, they are told what incredible privilege they live under).

It's almost like the racial focus is deliberate, to prevent the underclasses of America from uniting.

As someone who very much views the US from an outsider perspective, this is the way it appears to me.

Dresta
07-12-2016, 12:05 PM
You're mistaking Mexicans with Aztecs, which aren't the same. By the time Mexico came into existence, the Aztecs were decimated and human sacrifice had long been prohibited. I'm Mexican, not Aztec.

In the sake of fairness, let's remind everyone that while China was a civilization, Jews were being bullied around and being enslaved, plus that whole wandering the desert for 40 years like homeless idiots debacle. :lol

If it weren't for the UN, they'd still be homeless today :yaohappy:
Indeed, but then they struck gold by reclaiming their own suffering and turning it into a point of pride, inverting the notion of good/evil that then dominated the world, and conquered the world (morally speaking) as a result. The UN could not exist without this inversion of morality spread by the jews--they have become the beneficiaries of the near-universalisation of their morals :oldlol:.

#jewsruleyou

longtime lurker
07-12-2016, 12:18 PM
Do you doubt that if Dylan Roof resisted arrest and reached for his gun that he would have been shot by the police? Cops kill 2x as many whites as blacks, so it's not like cops are shy about using their guns when the person is white.

Dylann Roof got Burger King after he was arrested. I didn't see any outrage from the tough on crime contingent. "Hey kid congrats you slaughtered 9 black people, how about a Whopper!"



If the black guy in Baton Rouge was as compliant when being arrested as Dylan Roof was, do you think they still would have shot him? They had already tazed him 2x and he was still resisting arrest.

Resisting arrest is didn't lead to him getting killed. The officers had both his hands pinned down, he wasn't in a position where he posed a threat. You need to question you need to ask is whether resisting arrest should lead to an automatic death sentence.



Honest question. What was the key factor of him eventually getting shot? The fact the he was resisting arrest even after attempts of using tazers to subdue him or.... that he's black?

Sadly, I expect absolutely no honesty in your response.

Yes. Statistics indicate black people are 2.5 times more likely to be killed than white people :confusedshug:

NumberSix
07-12-2016, 12:49 PM
Yes. Statistics indicate black people are 2.5 times more likely to be killed than white people :confusedshug:
Lol. Yes, if he would have put his hands behind his back to be cuffed and didn't resist arrest they still would have shot him anyway. Sure thing buddy.

You know what else statistics show. Blacks resist arrest 9x more than whites do. It should come as no shock that resisting arrest will lead to higher rates of the use of force.

Resisting arrest = forced arrest.

Like, I really don't understand what people think they're accomplishing. Do people think that if you resist really hard, the cops will be like "ok fine. we won't arrest you"?

longtime lurker
07-12-2016, 01:44 PM
Lol. Yes, if he would have put his hands behind his back to be cuffed and didn't resist arrest they still would have shot him anyway. Sure thing buddy.

Do you need me to show you footage of white people resisting arrest without being killed? Do you need me to show you footage of people complying to police demands and still getting shot/killed. You gave an example of Dylan Noble who complied with police demands and was still killed. The whole "if he didn't resist arrest he'd be alive" saying is a false narrative that seeks to absolve police from accountability. Also please tell me what Alton Sterling was being arrested for.


You know what else statistics show. Blacks resist arrest 9x more than whites do. It should come as no shock that resisting arrest will lead to higher rates of the use of force.

You have an unbiased source for that? Or you pulling the classic Numbersix where you cite something like its fact then back pedal.


Resisting arrest = forced arrest.

Like, I really don't understand what people think they're accomplishing. Do people think that if you resist really hard, the cops will be like "ok fine. we won't arrest you"?

Resisting arrest is a very broad catch all term that police officers use to detain someone. You know such a thing as false arrests exist. People resist arrest, that's just the way it is. Police should be trained to deescalate these situations not go from zero to one hundred. You never answered my question whether or not resisting arrest should result in a death sentence. What you're arguing for is an authoritarian state where anyone that resists arrest can be executed.

longtime lurker
07-12-2016, 01:46 PM
Native Americans were treated worse than ANY other "race" in this country.

Only difference is they don't complain about it, or use it as a crutch for EVERYTHING like certain people from certain "minority" groups do.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/71b766899c09cdac9f24721775327300/tumblr_n9ij0ekQmc1setsv8o1_400.gif

http://www.startribune.com/native-lives-matter-to-march-to-crashed-ice-event/370379611/

97 bulls
07-12-2016, 01:50 PM
I'm not talking about rates, volume or whatever.

Then what are you talking about. Because if the argument you're making is that police kill more whites than blacks as a whole, well they should because there are more white criminals than blacks.

I don't have a narrative. Simply a preemptive strike on your "cops don't kill whites. Show me ONE case. You can't do it"idiocy. The percentages are different, but obviously cop killings of whites do happen. They are in reality the majority of cop killings so only a monumentally stupid person rambles on with this "it never happens to whites. You can't show me a single case" retardedness.

Show me where I said such. I plainly stated that Police officers don't show the same RESTRAINT. I've posted videos of police shooting white guys.


I have no idea if the force used was unnecessary or not and neither do you. The video only starts after the initial use of force and multiple attempts to subdue him with a taser. Maybe the initial use of force was warranted, maybe it wasn't. Only one of us is dishonestly pretending to know.
Dude. They said "HE HAS A GUN" then shoot him three times. Then the officer goes right to his pocket and pulls the gun out. Which means that he didn't have a gun in his hand.


What fact? On the matter of lethal force, there is no basis to say they're treated differently. On other things like being pulled over, handcuffed, frisked and things like that blacks are statistically treated worse. That's just a fact. On the matter of shooting though, there is absolutely no basis to say cops are quicker to shoot blacks than whites. There's just no data that confirms such a claim. I don't care if you "believe" it's true or if it "feels" true. It's just not.
So the only way to justify anything is wit a stat???? Come on. We see video after video after video after video after video of these shootings.



I have many times and you immediately go back to pretending you've never seen it. The problem is you're a fundamentally dishonest person.
No. You are. Ok. Ok. Show us a video where a cop shoots a white suspect without giving the suspect ample opportunity to surrender. Every video youve ever shown shows men reaching into their pocket two three or four times.



There's one that just happened a few days ago. A 19 year old white kid in California named Dylan Noble lying face down in the ground and the police shoot him in the back. The video is on YouTube. So you can him your list of police shootings that your pretend to not know about after one of your disingenuous "show me one, just one. You can't" rants.
I'm familitary with the incident. According to police, he kept reaching under him as if he had a weapon. And allow me to put the emphasis on KEPT.... meaning he CONTINUED to reach into his pocket or under him as if he had a weapon. After they gave him multiple chances. That's restraint in my opinion. He left the officer's no choice. The Black man that was killed by the White cop in the Jewish temple? After he gave him multiple opportunities to surender, kept his distance etc? You see no one is arguing that sistuation. The man left him no choice.

Nick Young
07-12-2016, 01:50 PM
You're mistaking Mexicans with Aztecs, which aren't the same. By the time Mexico came into existence, the Aztecs were decimated and human sacrifice had long been prohibited. I'm Mexican, not Aztec.

In the sake of fairness, let's remind everyone that while China was a civilization, Jews were being bullied around and being enslaved, plus that whole wandering the desert for 40 years like homeless idiots debacle. :lol

If it weren't for the UN, they'd still be homeless today :yaohappy:

I hate the UN, but you are probably right about that:lol

Nick Young
07-12-2016, 01:52 PM
Indeed, but then they struck gold by reclaiming their own suffering and turning it into a point of pride, inverting the notion of good/evil that then dominated the world, and conquered the world (morally speaking) as a result. The UN could not exist without this inversion of morality spread by the jews--they have become the beneficiaries of the near-universalisation of their morals :oldlol:.

#jewsruleyou
Jew morals>all:rockon:

Hawker
07-12-2016, 02:01 PM
Then what are you talking about. Because if the argument you're making is that police kill more whites than blacks as a whole, well they should because there are more white criminals than blacks.


Show me where I said such. I plainly stated that Police officers don't show the same RESTRAINT. I've posted videos of police shooting white guys.


Dude. They said "HE HAS A GUN" then shoot him three times. Then the officer goes right to his pocket and pulls the gun out. Which means that he didn't have a gun in his hand.


So the only way to justify anything is wit a stat???? Come on. We see video after video after video after video after video of these shootings.


No. You are. Ok. Ok. Show us a video where a cop shoots a white suspect without giving the suspect ample opportunity to surrender. Every video youvery shown shows men reaching into their pocket two three or four times.



I'm familitary with the incident. According to police, he kept reaching under him as if he had a weapon. And allow me to put the emphasis on KEPT.... meaning he CONTINUED to reach into his pocket or under him as if he had a weapon. After they gave him multiple chances. That's restraint in my opinion. He left the officer's no choice. The Black man that was killed by the White cop in the Jewish temple? After he gave him multiple opportunities to surender, kept his distance etc? You see no one is arguing that sistuation. The man left him no choice.

Dude, you can still shoot a gun that is in your pocket. All you have to do is touch the trigger. Even from the outside.

Pointguard
07-12-2016, 03:44 PM
Sorry, is your implication here that the slaveholding interest and the banking interest were the same?
I never said that. The Souths weaker position economically had to have been tied to banking. I can't say I know the mechanics.


It's simply not true; the South provided the only consistent opposition in Congress to the bankers and land speculators who often controlled it--tis probably the best thing about the South, as well as its lasting legacy (need for integrity and public virtue in politics, a detestation of the power of patronage and the corruption of politics by money).
They were morally reprehensible, stupid and foul before every stand they took.
You disagree?

NumberSix
07-12-2016, 04:16 PM
Do you need me to show you footage of white people resisting arrest without being killed?
The vast majority of resisted arrests don't end in death. You don't need to show me proof of that. It isn't in doubt.


Do you need me to show you footage of people complying to police demands and still getting shot/killed.
Unjustified police shootings exist. I don't think anyone is claiming they don't.

ILLsmak
07-12-2016, 08:33 PM
Proof of how flawed the whole IQ thing is when China is the "smartest" nation on earth yet they don't invent anything. All they do is counterfeit and copy inventions by other nations and provide cheap labor.

If it wasn't that they are just easily the most populous nation on earth, they'd be just another Hong Kong.

It's funny because the graph doesn't state all black people are dumb... it states average African people are mentally retarded haha.

IQ is a strange thing. I think you gotta test people when they are kids and you gotta test them through what they are semi-familiar with. You can't just go drop a US standard IQ tests to people, imo, especially older people with life problems. Pretty sure you're supposed to test people 1 on 1, too.

That's always been the largest issue with IQ, to me: they don't count for the part of your brain that is wrapped up in basic tasks. It's like running apps. They think that your intelligence level is lower if you can't 'shut down' everything and focus on it... that's why I think that only children should be tested, because they don't have those problems.

Worth a laugh, nonetheless.

-Smak

TheMan
07-12-2016, 08:41 PM
Indeed, but then they struck gold by reclaiming their own suffering and turning it into a point of pride, inverting the notion of good/evil that then dominated the world, and conquered the world (morally speaking) as a result. The UN could not exist without this inversion of morality spread by the jews--they have become the beneficiaries of the near-universalisation of their morals :oldlol:.

#jewsruleyou
I find that very offensive, now you're claiming that Jews rule the world since I'm not Jewish so a Jew shouldn't "rule" me. No, Jews do not control all world governments, there isn't a secret cabal of Zionists that own all the world's banks and money institutions and cause havoc to world markets :facepalm

Don't feed the white supremacists' conspiracy theories, bruh :no:

poido123
07-12-2016, 09:19 PM
http://37.media.tumblr.com/71b766899c09cdac9f24721775327300/tumblr_n9ij0ekQmc1setsv8o1_400.gif

http://www.startribune.com/native-lives-matter-to-march-to-crashed-ice-event/370379611/



There's no doubt that african americans btch about it the most. what's worse is the facts fly in the face of everything they crusade for. Including the white racism narrative surrounding cops killing blacks.


It's called the 'growing up without a daddy' syndrome.

branslowski
07-12-2016, 09:29 PM
This guy and the others in this thread still can't fathom that blacks are killing more people in America at a higher rate AND more white people are being killed by cops.

Then they want to scream racist, when the facts are that whites are the ones who could easily cry racism in this example.

There is plenty of white racism in the workplace. I know that in my country, indigenous are afforded incentives and employment allocations in all government jobs. Which means, white people are discriminated against and its only through MEDIA and the SJW/Liberal left who are pushing this agenda of white racism. Immigrants are given handouts and possessions before they have earnt a cent.


Cherry picking at its finest.

Bout da dumbest sh!t i ever read.

poido123
07-12-2016, 11:11 PM
Bout da dumbest sh!t i ever read.


Do you always spell the, da?


and it's about, not bout.

Patrick Chewing
07-12-2016, 11:14 PM
Bout da dumbest sh!t i ever read.


You probably didn't understand a word of it.



It's ok, "Drug Lord" of Florida. What a culture!!

KiiiiNG
07-12-2016, 11:29 PM
Do you always spell the, da?


and it's about, not bout.
:oldlol: :oldlol:


You probably didn't understand a word of it.



It's ok, "Drug Lord" of Florida. What a culture!!

Roast session! :roll:

Patrick Chewing
07-13-2016, 12:30 AM
I hate to say it, but the BLM and the race that primarily represents the BLM need to step their IQ game up.

If you are going to go into an open forum to discuss racial issues in 2016, then you sure do not want to look as unprepared as these people did.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=940_1468352595

poido123
07-13-2016, 02:53 AM
I hate to say it, but the BLM and the race that primarily represents the BLM need to step their IQ game up.

If you are going to go into an open forum to discuss racial issues in 2016, then you sure do not want to look as unprepared as these people did.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=940_1468352595


Oh lawd, that debate was unfair.


shapiro was throwing the fact bombs down and they looked absolutely dumbfounded.


BLM's are mostly stupid, ignorant imbeciles that you will find on any far right movement on any race.


The fact that only a white man can be racist says everything about the logic of these people.

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 07:59 AM
Oh lawd, that debate was unfair.


shapiro was throwing the fact bombs down and they looked absolutely dumbfounded.


BLM's are mostly stupid, ignorant imbeciles that you will find on any far right movement on any race.


The fact that only a white man can be racist says everything about the logic of these people.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You aren't even bright enough to know it was heavily edited???

I don't know when you became a silly troll but it's a bad look. There are usually over 20 cities which protest the day after these killings and now about 7 other cities in Europe have joined in. And there are always enough people to stop the downtown areas and major highways. Occupy Wall Street also helps in spreading the word and organizing. Its a college educated group leading these protest. By contrast, you're Poido who doesn't even understand basketball despite being around basketball people all day.

Its not, is this a reality too profound for the ignorant to ignore, its more like when it gets to 40 cities and 10 countries with protest to the same thing will hermits still be in denial. People aren't just responding to these videos, they are responding to overall conduct. But its obvious that you guys have no idea what they are even protesting, but think you know it all.

poido123
07-13-2016, 08:26 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You aren't even bright enough to know it was heavily edited???

I don't know when you became a silly troll but it's a bad look. There are usually over 20 cities which protest the day after these killings and now about 7 other cities in Europe have joined in. And there are always enough people to stop the downtown areas and major highways. Occupy Wall Street also helps in spreading the word and organizing. Its a college educated group leading these protest. By contrast, you're Poido who doesn't even understand basketball despite being around basketball people all day.

Its not, is this a reality too profound for the ignorant to ignore, its more like when it gets to 40 cities and 10 countries with protest to the same thing will hermits still be in denial. People aren't just responding to these videos, they are responding to overall conduct. But its obvious that you guys have no idea what they are even protesting, but think you know it all.



:facepalm


YOU have no idea what their cause is. Because if you did, you would realise how stupid it is and how inacurate they are.


But you keep supporting these black version of rednecks. It will serve you well in your life of victimhood.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 09:41 AM
:facepalm


YOU have no idea what their cause is. Because if you did, you would realise how stupid it is and how inacurate they are.


But you keep supporting these black version of rednecks. It will serve you well in your life of victimhood.
Whats inaccurate about their cause with regards to Police shooting blacks with impunity?

poido123
07-13-2016, 09:49 AM
Whats inaccurate about their cause with regards to Police shooting blacks with impunity?


what's inaccurate about whites being killed by cops at 3.5 times the rate of blacks?


BLM's don't have a leg to stand on. it's not our fault that the black community is so easily riled up from media and hysteria.

sd3035
07-13-2016, 10:10 AM
I hate to say it, but the BLM and the race that primarily represents the BLM need to step their IQ game up.

If you are going to go into an open forum to discuss racial issues in 2016, then you sure do not want to look as unprepared as these people did.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=940_1468352595

It probably has something to do with this

https://static.iq-research.info/20150809/img/iq_by_country.png

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 10:10 AM
what's inaccurate about whites being killed by cops at 3.5 times the rate of blacks?


BLM's don't have a leg to stand on. it's not our fault that the black community is so easily riled up from media and hysteria.
Where are you getting your information?

NumberSix
07-13-2016, 10:22 AM
Whats inaccurate about their cause with regards to Police shooting blacks with impunity?
Because police aren't shooting blacks with impunity. :hammerhead:

A Harvard study just came out this week that concluded that there is no bias against blacks in police shootings. And it was done by a black professor who believed the media narrative that there is and said it was the shock of his career to find out that there isn't.

poido123
07-13-2016, 10:26 AM
Where are you getting your information?


Nearly twice as many are killing whites, that other figure I think relates to HOW LIKELY a black man is to commit a crime to a white person.


The point is, that there isn't some big witch hunt going on from cops to kill blacks that the media makes you believe.

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 10:29 AM
:facepalm


YOU have no idea what their cause is. Because if you did, you would realise how stupid it is and how inacurate they are.


But you keep supporting these black version of rednecks. It will serve you well in your life of victimhood.
So cops who sodomize victims with night sticks is ok by you? NYC
Another cop rapes 13 women, its ok by you? OKC
Cop rapes underage girls after meeting her in church. NYC
Man who kills nine people he befriends in a church gets Burger King.

Maybe you think its normal behavior. And all of these were convictions. How would you know what is inaccurate in a world you have no idea of what goes on. Its stupid of you to not even read about what is going on outside of your house and then act like you can speak authoritatively.

poido123
07-13-2016, 10:31 AM
So cops who sodomize victims with night sticks is ok by you? NYC
Another cop rapes 13 women, its ok by you? OKC
Cop rapes underage girls after meeting her in church. NYC
Man who kills nine people he befriends in a church gets Burger King.

Maybe you think its normal behavior. And all of these were convictions. How would you know what is inaccurate in a world you have no idea of what goes on. Its stupid of you to not even read about what is going on outside of your house and then act like you can speak authoritatively.


I don't think any violence towards AMERICAN CITIZENS is ok from the police.


what makes you believe it's a black thing? The statistics don't support the racist angle.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 10:34 AM
Because police aren't shooting blacks with impunity. :hammerhead:

A Harvard study just came out this week that concluded that there is no bias against blacks in police shootings. And it was done by a black professor who believed the media narrative that there is and said it was the shock of his career to find out that there isn't.
Well I sure would like to see this study. Because from what I see? From the multiple videos of police interactions with regards to white vs black suspects who are resisting? They show very little in fact no effort to keep a black man from having to be killed at their hands.

NumberSix
07-13-2016, 10:45 AM
Well I sure would like to see this study. Because from what I see? From the multiple videos of police interactions with regards to white vs black suspects who are resisting? They show very little in fact no effort to keep a black man from having to be killed at their hands.
And in LeBron highlight videos it appears that he makes 100% of his shots.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 10:53 AM
Nearly twice as many are killing whites, that other figure I think relates to HOW LIKELY a black man is to commit a crime to a white person.


The point is, that there isn't some big witch hunt going on from cops to kill blacks that the media makes you believe.
And that figure is based on the actual number of blacks being killed vs whites. The way you guys cherry pick stats never ceases to amaze me. Going by your logic. There's more crime in white neighborhood's than blacks. More white people are on welfare, there's more out of wedlock births. All the statistics used to "describe" blacks as a whole should really be applied to white people.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 10:55 AM
And in LeBron highlight videos it appears that he makes 100% of his shots.
But I can create a highlight video showing his misses. Plenty of them. Please show me one video where a white suspect was shot without being given every opportunity to surrender. YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!

But I'm sure it will happen someday

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-13-2016, 11:19 AM
And that figure is based on the actual number of blacks being killed vs whites. The way you guys cherry pick stats never ceases to amaze me. Going by your logic. There's more crime in white neighborhood's than blacks. More white people are on welfare, there's more out of wedlock births. All the statistics used to "describe" blacks as a whole should really be applied to white people.

There's been TONS of evidence posted here which doesn't support "blacks" being killed more than "whites", by police, and you somehow managed to twist that into ANOTHER separate issue. Why not just accept that 100% indisputable FACT and quit trying to move goalposts?

Not trolling in the slightest, just an honest question bro... How do you live life with such an irrational victim complex?

poido123
07-13-2016, 11:21 AM
There's been TONS of evidence posted here which doesn't support "blacks" being killed more than "whites", by police, and you somehow managed to twist that into ANOTHER separate issue. Why not just accept that 100% indisputable FACT and quit trying to move goalposts?

Not trolling in the slightest, just an honest question bro... How do you live life with such an irrational victim complex?



:eek:


:lol

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 11:42 AM
I don't think any violence towards AMERICAN CITIZENS is ok from the police.


what makes you believe it's a black thing? The statistics don't support the racist angle.
So show me where they rape a man with a baton in white America.
Show me where they take a Black guy to McDonalds after befriending 9 guys in a church and then killing them.
You really think a Black Police officer could rape 13 white women and get away with it.

NY they had stop and frisk of minorities registered at over 600,000 times in NYC in 2011 which actually means there were over a million real stops. More stops than all but two cities in your whole nation. About 3,000 stops a day to random people which rarely seemed to be white people that make up over 40% of the population. A couple of individuals were hit up 30 times without probable cause. In 2013 NYC claims on the police department for well over 200 million dollars for their unprofessional-ism. And NYC is a lot better than most cities.

poido123
07-13-2016, 11:48 AM
So show me where they rape a man with a baton in white America.
Show me where they take a Black guy to McDonalds after befriending 9 guys in a church.
You really think a Black Police officer could rape 13 white women and get away with it.

NY they had stop and frisk of minorities registered at over 600,000 times in NYC in 2011 which actually means there were over a million real stops. More stops than all but two cities in your whole nation. About 3,000 stops a day to random people which rarely seemed to be white people that make up over 40% of the population. A couple of individuals were hit up 30 times without probable cause. In 2013 NYC claims on the police department for well over 200 million dollars for their unprofessional-ism. And NYC is a lot better than most cities.



Just stop.


Have a look around you. Do you not see opportunity in America?


Why get stuck on these issues when you have every opportunity afforded to you that your ancestors never had?


Stop b.tching, get along with white people and have a laugh and get over it.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 11:48 AM
There's been TONS of evidence posted here which doesn't support "blacks" being killed more than "whites", by police, and you somehow managed to twist that into ANOTHER separate issue. Why not just accept that 100% indisputable FACT and quit trying to move goalposts?

Not trolling in the slightest, just an honest question bro... How do you live life with such an irrational victim complex?
It depends on how you use the stat. I'm not denying that more whites are killed that blacks. My argument is that it's disproportionate. Blacks are killed at a higher rate based on the population of blacks vs whites. How is this so hard to commprehend?

What's more, is that blacks wouldn't be so upset if when in these instances, white suspects were treated like their black counterpart. And then it's justified and then they're let go.


Lets look at the opposite end of the spectrum. Remember the two black police officers that killed the white kid? Those police were arrested wI think 72 hours.And they should've been. Why isn't that officer that shot Castille under arrest yet?

NumberSix
07-13-2016, 11:54 AM
But I can create a highlight video showing his misses. Plenty of them. Please show me one video where a white suspect was shot without being given every opportunity to surrender. YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!

But I'm sure it will happen someday
:roll:

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 11:58 AM
:roll:
Lol. That's all you can do. Because you know it's true.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-13-2016, 12:02 PM
It depends on how you use the stat. I'm not denying that more whites are killed that blacks. My argument is that it's disproportionate. Blacks are killed at a higher rate based on the population of blacks vs whites. How is this so hard to commprehend?

What's more, is that blacks wouldn't be so upset if when in these instances, white suspects were treated like their black counterpart. And then it's justified and then they're let go.

Lets look at the opposite end of the spectrum. Remember the two black police officers that killed the white kid? Those police were arrested wI think 72 hours.And they should've been. Why isn't that officer that shot Castille under arrest yet?

So back to proportion statistics? :oldlol:

If you're willing to use them, then accept the FACTS that go with these macro-numbers. Black on black crime, welfare, etc.

You won't though. Reading through this thread, and going by post history, you'd rather switch topic to topic to help you cope with your victim complex.

http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061

^unjustly, unarmed "white" veteran shot by police. No media attention... Are you saying it never happened because there isn't a video of it?

I hope that isn't your argument...

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 12:02 PM
Just stop.


Have a look around you. Do you not see opportunity in America?
Who are you to tell anybody to stop. Are you American? You are trying to speak to and about young Americans on things you know nothing about. You know nothing about what they are up against. Of course there is opportunity but if you have 1 million people stopped in a city it snatches opportunity away from them when bullying reaches unreal heights. Do you even have a clue as to what I'm talking about when I say opportunities snatched by the bullying. You don't because you don't live here.



Why get stuck on these issues when you have every opportunity afforded to you that your ancestors never had?

Stop b.tching, get along with white people and have a laugh and get over it. Funny we do have fun but get serious about things when white foreigners try to tell us we are imagining things. And then when we do bring the stats, its change the subject time. But you guys are smarter than 38 cities and 7 countries on something you never came close to experiencing.

NumberSix
07-13-2016, 12:10 PM
Remember the two black police officers that killed the white kid? Those police were arrested wI think 72 hours.And they should've been. Why isn't that officer that shot Castille under arrest yet?
That entire incident was recorded from multiple angles. The Castile incident was recorded at all. It's gonna take time to do an actual investigation. Don't be a dummy.

When police are recorded doing something illegal, regardless of race, they're arrested and charged. Just like those two black cops, like the white cop that shot the black dude in the back, like the cop that shot the guy in a car, etc...

Now, if you want to have a discussion about what constitutes a justified killing, that's a legit discussion. Maybe you think something like "he was reaching" is too low of a standard. I can see good arguments for that point of view. Maybe the police need to implement higher standards for what justifies the use of force.

poido123
07-13-2016, 12:23 PM
Who are you to tell anybody to stop. Are you American? You are trying to speak to and about young Americans on things you know nothing about. You know nothing about what they are up against. Of course there is opportunity but if you have 1 million people stopped in a city it snatches opportunity away from them when bullying reaches unreal heights. Do you even have a clue as to what I'm talking about when I say opportunities snatched by the bullying. You don't because you don't live here.

Funny we do have fun but get serious about things when white foreigners try to tell us we are imagining things. And then when we do bring the stats, its change the subject time. But you guys are smarter than 38 cities and 7 countries on something you never came close to experiencing.



No excuses. There is people with far bigger obstacles in their life than the minimal racism that occurs in America's society and if that is all you have to complain about, then you are doing pretty well.

Dresta
07-13-2016, 12:49 PM
All one needs to do to see that BLM is an extremist organisation, completely unwilling to engage in civilised debate, and utterly fanatical in their beliefs, is to compare their response to the shootings in Orlando, to their response to the shootings in Dallas. Orlando:

[QUOTE]

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 12:50 PM
No excuses. There is people with far bigger obstacles in their life than the minimal racism that occurs in America's society and if that is all you have to complain about, then you are doing pretty well.
You don't even know what happens when you get arrested, here. Its not minimal at all. Bad cop culture can affect your education, career choices, where you live, and ability to get loans. You don't know what you are talking about.

poido123
07-13-2016, 12:52 PM
You don't even know what happens when you get arrested, here. Its not minimal at all. Bad cop culture can affect your education, career choices, where you live, and ability to get loans. You don't know what you are talking about.



Bullshit.


Get a job, stop worrying about the shit that doesn't exist and be a winner.


You sound like a loser who wants an out.

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 01:00 PM
Bullshit.


Get a job, stop worrying about the shit that doesn't exist and be a winner.


You sound like a loser who wants an out.
See, you did it again. You are a foreigner who doesn't know the ramifications of what we are talking about. Stop talking about it if you have no clue. I do quite well for myself, but so what. It doesn't mean I should let others talk about things that they know nothing about. Where have I ever wanted an out in this conversation. You guys are trying to minimize a reality you know nothing about. Its done a lot here. Even when there are 30+ cities and 7 countries involved.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 01:08 PM
That entire incident was recorded from multiple angles. The Castile incident was recorded at all. It's gonna take time to do an actual investigation. Don't be a dummy.

When police are recorded doing something illegal, regardless of race, they're arrested and charged. Just like those two black cops, like the white cop that shot the black dude in the back, like the cop that shot the guy in a car, etc...

Now, if you want to have a discussion about what constitutes a justified killing, that's a legit discussion. Maybe you think something like "he was reaching" is too low of a standard. I can see good arguments for that point of view. Maybe the police need to implement higher standards for what justifies the use of force.
I'm not even arguing a person being shot for reaching, aiming, fighting the police etc. My point is, it's not done fairly. Be coneistent. But I continue to hear that this kind of reaction that the police officers feel they have to use, is common for everyone. When it's not.

And yes. I do feel the procedure needs to change. Why are these police so quick to escalate a situation when it doesn't need to be? I mean really, if they really thought that the men waving these guns were threats, why approach them in this manner? They don't do it to white suspects. They keep their distance and talk them down. These cops go in like these guys are active shooters. Why? Why couldn't the same restraint be shown to Tamir Rice similar to the man that was actually AIMING his gun at police? Or did the police really have to run up and just start shooting the man in Walmart?


And attempting to excuse these occurrances as rare, or going back and trying to assasinate the dead persons character by alluding to the criminal background of them, then you leave the impression that it's not that big of a deal. Hence the phrase Black Live Matter.

poido123
07-13-2016, 01:18 PM
See, you did it again. You are a foreigner who doesn't know the ramifications of what we are talking about. Stop talking about it if you have no clue. I do quite well for myself, but so what. It doesn't mean I should let others talk about things that they know nothing about. Where have I ever wanted an out in this conversation. You guys are trying to minimize a reality you know nothing about. Its done a lot here. Even when there are 30+ cities and 7 countries involved.


There is NO REALITY THAT YOU SPEAK OF and the facts support that.

Crying racism is so yesteryear.


Time to turn the page on the past and make your own mark.

AceManIII
07-13-2016, 02:01 PM
Racism is old therefore irrelevant, amirite poido?

Dresta
07-13-2016, 02:06 PM
No one willing to address this then?:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12523201&postcount=198

DonDadda59
07-13-2016, 02:07 PM
Turns out that one of the slain cops in Dallas, Lorne Ahrens, may have been a White Supremacist. The internet dug up this man's dirty laundry.

Hate on Hate crime.

We need to come together.

Dresta
07-13-2016, 02:54 PM
Turns out that one of the slain cops in Dallas, Lorne Ahrens, may have been a White Supremacist. The internet dug up this man's dirty laundry.

Hate on Hate crime.

We need to come together.
Sounds like the rubbish pushed by "critical media scholars" like this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/slain-dallas-cop-mightve_b_10953276.html

Pure speculative slander. Just goes to show the unerring cruelty and sadism of some on the modern left ("cop deserved to be killed: he had some tattoos i can interpret as being white supremacist symbols").

Pointguard
07-13-2016, 06:31 PM
There is NO REALITY THAT YOU SPEAK OF and the facts support that.

NY they had stop and frisk of minorities registered at over 600,000 times in NYC in 2011 which actually means there were over a million real stops. More stops than all but two cities in your whole nation. About 3,000 stops a day to random people which rarely seemed to be white people that make up over 40% of the population. In 2013 NYC claims on the police department for well over 200 million dollars for their unprofessional-ism. And NYC is a lot better than most cities.

A million stops of minorities in one year. 200 million dollars for unprofessionalism, in one year.

hitmanyr2k
07-13-2016, 08:39 PM
No one willing to address this then?:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12523201&postcount=198

Like I said before, trying to assign one crazy idiot who killed cops to the BLM is dumb. No one addressed my post earlier in this thread where I said you may as well start calling anti-abortion protesters a terrorist movement since unstable idiots stalk and threaten doctors constantly, bomb abortion clinics and kill people. Let's make Robert Dear the poster child for anti-abortionists because he wanted "no more baby parts". That guy killed staff in Planned Parenthood, killed a cop, and fired on more cops outside the clinic plenty in a shootout. Where's the cry to make the anti-abortionists into a terror group based on his actions? This thread is beyond stupid.

Dresta
07-13-2016, 09:41 PM
Like I said before, trying to assign one crazy idiot who killed cops to the BLM is dumb. No one addressed my post earlier in this thread where I said you may as well start calling anti-abortion protesters a terrorist movement since unstable idiots stalk and threaten doctors constantly, bomb abortion clinics and kill people. Let's make Robert Dear the poster child for anti-abortionists because he wanted "no more baby parts". That guy killed staff in Planned Parenthood, killed a cop, and fired on more cops outside the clinic plenty in a shootout. Where's the cry to make the anti-abortionists into a terror group based on his actions? This thread is beyond stupid.
That doesn't address my point at all. Try reading the post again:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12523201&postcount=198

The point is that they are a bunch of fanatics and extremists, so much so that they see any random terrorist attack as a justification of their efforts to demonise the people who disagree with them. I would agree with the pleas of BLMs members that these murders have nothing to do with them if they hadn't gone and issued a statement after the Orlando killings which placed the blame for that atrocity an every white conservative; they are uncompromising, they are fanatic, they're actually a clear example of the intolerant bigotry that the left claims to be such a great evil (while actually justifying and excusing it).

poido123
07-13-2016, 10:01 PM
NY they had stop and frisk of minorities registered at over 600,000 times in NYC in 2011 which actually means there were over a million real stops. More stops than all but two cities in your whole nation. About 3,000 stops a day to random people which rarely seemed to be white people that make up over 40% of the population. In 2013 NYC claims on the police department for well over 200 million dollars for their unprofessional-ism. And NYC is a lot better than most cities.

A million stops of minorities in one year. 200 million dollars for unprofessionalism, in one year.



BLM's are no different to the KKK.


Did you know that 90% of crimes in NYC are black? I'd be stopping them too.

sd3035
07-13-2016, 10:37 PM
Dresta is destroying people in this thread

oh the horror
07-13-2016, 10:42 PM
BLM's are no different to the KKK.


Did you know that 90% of crimes in NYC are black? I'd be stopping them too.



BLM is no different than the KKK?



I don't know why any of you are debating with this sinpleton f*ck.


:facepalm

poido123
07-13-2016, 10:44 PM
BLM is no different than the KKK?



I don't know why any of you are debating with this sinpleton f*ck.


:facepalm


Both groups inciting hatred of another race? BLM's are stirring up the violence that you see, like the shootings at Dallas of innocent police officers who happen to be white.


They are no different.

hitmanyr2k
07-13-2016, 10:46 PM
That doesn't address my point at all. Try reading the post again:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12523201&postcount=198

The point is that they are a bunch of fanatics and extremists, so much so that they see any random terrorist attack as a justification of their efforts to demonise the people who disagree with them. I would agree with the pleas of BLMs members that these murders have nothing to do with them if they hadn't gone and issued a statement after the Orlando killings which placed the blame for that atrocity an every white conservative; they are uncompromising, they are fanatic, they're actually a clear example of the intolerant bigotry that the left claims to be such a great evil (while actually justifying and excusing it).

Who are "they"? :oldlol: BLM isn't some official organized group with true defined leadership. They're a collection of individuals coming together for what they see as a common purpose. Many times you'll see a diverse group marching together peacefully. Once again assigning some stupid statement made by whoever (which I'm sure some right wing website told you to be outraged by) to all BLM groups across America is DUMB. You can say the same thing for any group that has idiots saying and doing stupid shit.

poido123
07-13-2016, 11:09 PM
Who are "they"? :oldlol: BLM isn't some official organized group with true defined leadership. They're a collection of individuals coming together for what they see as a common purpose. Many times you'll see a diverse group marching together peacefully. Once again assigning some stupid statement made by whoever (which I'm sure some right wing website told you to be outraged by) to all BLM groups across America is DUMB. You can say the same thing for any group that has idiots saying and doing stupid shit.



They are an organised, funded group.


http://blacklivesmatter.com/


Soros would also been behind this too, so there every bit as concerning as a racist group like the KKK.

97 bulls
07-13-2016, 11:11 PM
BLM is no different than the KKK?



I don't know why any of you are debating with this sinpleton f*ck.


:facepalm
I'm having a discussion with him because I feel when the poison he preaches goes unchallenged, we all will suffer more.

poido123
07-13-2016, 11:13 PM
I'm having a discussion with him because I feel when the poison he preaches goes unchallenged, we all will suffer more.


BLM group was behind the Dallas shootings and incited that violence to happen.


How is that any different than a racist group like the KKK behind a white individual attending their rallies, killing a black man?

hitmanyr2k
07-13-2016, 11:18 PM
They are an organised, funded group.


http://blacklivesmatter.com/


Soros would also been behind this too, so there every bit as concerning as a racist group like the KKK.

Because they have a shitty website? I could create that website in my sleep :oldlol:

These are the racist groups like the KKK?

https://s31.postimg.org/f0sjw8qtn/download.jpg

https://nondoc-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IMG_4446-e1468199604178.jpg

poido123
07-14-2016, 12:02 AM
Because they have a shitty website? I could create that website in my sleep :oldlol:

These are the racist groups like the KKK?

https://s31.postimg.org/f0sjw8qtn/download.jpg

https://nondoc-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IMG_4446-e1468199604178.jpg




SJW's are a confused lot.


They don't even know what the fck they stand for other than to make themselves a general nuisance.

Godzuki
07-14-2016, 12:07 AM
BLm is far worse than ISIS :coleman:

lets be real for once and not brainwashed taught to think PC fgts like a lot of the liberals here :coleman:

i'd go as far to say BLm is a bigger threat than ISIS because their movement is domestic. it has taken root and supported by the liberal mainstream. its a movement centered on playing the race card to get as many freebies for blacks in every capacity possible. it has snowballed to the point that they are inciting blacks to murder random police. anyone who thinks these are isolated and unrelated incidents to BLm is a retard *cough* ohthehorror :facepalm

the liberal media bears a lot of blame for police getting killed by blacks. they have helped BLm incite black people and abuse the fukk out of the race card

its obviously become a terrorist organization that is mainstream liberal supported and the scariest thing is BLm and their mentality has a strong foothold amongst blacks in America. black people obviously are never at fault when a YT is around to blame :coleman:

Pointguard
07-14-2016, 12:07 AM
BLM's are no different to the KKK.


Did you know that 90% of crimes in NYC are black? I'd be stopping them too.
That's nowhere near true. No need to lie.

Pointguard
07-14-2016, 12:43 AM
Because they have a shitty website? I could create that website in my sleep :oldlol:

These are the racist groups like the KKK?

https://s31.postimg.org/f0sjw8qtn/download.jpg

https://nondoc-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IMG_4446-e1468199604178.jpg

Yes.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ak_lFT5XBzM/maxresdefault.jpghttp://mercurynewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/BLM-protesters-use-Mall-of-Ame.JPG

sd3035
07-14-2016, 01:36 AM
The white people in these protests are a bunch of welfare recipients and minimum wage employees mad at society :lol

UK2K
07-14-2016, 08:59 AM
Let's all sit back and watch what BLM really is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpW-xGjpEgA

A bunch of violent shitheads with too much time on their hands.