Better Finals Performer Hakeem or Kobe?

[Lebron23]

I have to go with the Dream. He elevated his performance in the NBA Finals unlike some scoring guard.

Hakeem Olajuwon

17 games - 28.0 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 3.2 bpg, 3.1 tov, 48.8 FG%, 74.0 FT%, 53.4 TS%


Kobe Bryant

37 games - 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, 3.3 tov, 41.2 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 50.7 TS%

[IllegalD]

I'll take the one that psychologically mindraped you to the point where you dropped out of lawschool to sell shrimp full-time out of your bicycle so you could post 24/7 about him.

Insecure b*tch.

:lol :roll: :banana:

[Round Mound]

Hakeem was the 2nd best player of the Jordan era. And at some points during that era he was the best. Sir Charles 3rd.

[Mr Feeny]

I have to go with the Dream. He elevated his performance in the NBA Finals unlike some scoring guard.

Hakeem Olajuwon

17 games - 28.0 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 3.2 bpg, 3.1 tov, 48.8 FG%, 74.0 FT%, 53.4 TS%


Kobe Bryant

37 games - 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, 3.3 tov, 41.2 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 50.7 TS%

Is this a joke? :oldlol:
On what planet is Kobe even worthy of a comparison to Hakeem in terms of finals performance. Hakeem is SO far ahead that it's insulting to mention Kobe (12th all time in finals scoring ppg) to the dream :lebronamazed:

[ScalsFan21]

Gotta agree with King Feeny here. Look. Kobe is great but he's... worse and less positively impactful on the court in basically every way than Olajuwon. :lol

Offense
Defense
Rebounding
Ability to win with less help
Finals performance differential is just the icing on the cake.

One of these guys is low-end Top 10 all-time.

The other has an absolute CEILING of 11th all-time, and in terms of individual play could be argued several spots lower. LeBeast23 man, what are you even doing making a thread like this comparing these boys?

[Mr Feeny]

Gotta agree with King Feeny here. Look. Kobe is great but he's... worse and less positively impactful on the court in basically every way than Olajuwon. :lol

Offense
Defense
Rebounding
Ability to win with less help
Finals performance differential is just the icing on the cake.

One of these guys is low-end Top 10 all-time.

The other has an absolute CEILING of 11th all-time, and in terms of individual play could be argued several spots lower. LeBeast23 man, what are you even doing making a thread like this comparing these boys?

:applause:

[K.dot ShowTime]

I'll take the one that psychologically mindraped you to the point where you dropped out of lawschool to sell shrimp full-time out of your bicycle so you could post 24/7 about him.

Insecure b*tch.

:lol :roll: :banana:

:lebronamazed:

[TheWinningFam]

I'll take the one that psychologically mindraped you to the point where you dropped out of lawschool to sell shrimp full-time out of your bicycle so you could post 24/7 about him.

Insecure b*tch.

:lol :roll: :banana:
Meltdown. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Mr Feeny]

Meltdown. :roll: :roll: :roll:

:lol

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I'll take the top 10 player, Hakeem.

[CAstill]

Bunch of trolls that didn't watch Hakeem at all. One player closed finals while the other had people close it for him. One impacted a team to 5 rings and the other just 2. Kobe was better. Quit nut hugging empty stats trolls.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bunch of trolls that didn't watch Hakeem at all. One player closed finals while the other had people close it for him. One impacted a team to 5 rings and the other just 2. Kobe was better. Quit nut hugging empty stats trolls.

Lol, compare Shaq & Kobe's stats during their Finals together and tell me who had a bigger impact on winning those series. Also, Hakeem's '94 & '95 Finals were easily better than any of Kobe's

[feyki]

Both above than L .

[FreezingTsmoove]

I'll take the one that psychologically mindraped you to the point where you dropped out of lawschool to sell shrimp full-time out of your bicycle so you could post 24/7 about him.

Insecure b*tch.

:lol :roll: :banana:

End the thread

And 5>3 btw

[Smoke117]

Olajuwon obviously.

[FreezingTsmoove]

4 MVP's/3 FMVP's > 1 MVP/2 FMVP's

We talkin bout the same MVP awards that Lebron won over Kobe when Kobe demolished the NBA in the playoffs while Lebron was bounced around like a jizz doll by Dwight Howard and the old ass Celtics :lol

We talkin bout dem MVP awards??

:lol

[CAstill]

Lol, compare Shaq & Kobe's stats during their Finals together and tell me who had a bigger impact on winning those series. Also, Hakeem's '94 & '95 Finals were easily better than any of Kobe's


You didn't watch shit. The person who has the biggest impact was Phil Jackson for realizing it was such a big mismatch. Any team would of done the same. Shaq was getting inflated stats on purpose because that was the game plan. Kobe did what he had to do when called upon which included closing out games and dominating the previous playoff teams that didn't have that match up problems to exploit.

[SamuraiSWISH]

1) 95 Hakeem
2) 09 Kobe
3) 94 Hakeem
4) 02 Kobe
5) 10 Kobe

Hakeem had the best Finals peak performance between the two of them. And it was vs an elite contemporary at his position in Shaq and the '95 Magic.

But Kobe got his team there more times as best player and has 3 of the 5 best performances between all of them. So, I'm going with Mamba.

[Smoke117]

It should also be noted that Hakeem was in marquee match ups vs top 3 to 5 centers in the league in both of his finals...Kobe was matched up against an old reggie miller, eric snow, Kerry Kittles, an old Ray Allen, Hedo Turkoglu...and is still average in the finals.

[SouBeachTalents]

1) 95 Hakeem
2) 09 Kobe
3) 94 Hakeem
4) 02 Kobe
5) 10 Kobe

Hakeem had the best Finals peak performance between the two of them. And it was vs an elite contemporary at his position in Shaq and the '95 Magic.

But Kobe got his team there more times as best player and has 3 of the 5 best performances between all of them. So, I'm going with Mamba.

Factoring in Hakeem absolutely destroyed Ewing, had the FAR inferior cast and beat a superior team, Hakeem's '94 > Kobe's '09

[SamuraiSWISH]

Factoring in Hakeem absolutely destroyed Ewing, had the FAR inferior cast and beat a superior team, Hakeem's '94 > Kobe's '09
I could see that argument. And I can even roll with it. At face value Kobe's 2009 from a production perspective is still better. There is at least an argument there to be had. Let's not criminally underrate Kobe to prop up Hakeem, even if Bryant was more average on the games biggest stage.

[ArbitraryWater]

-In the 4th quarters of the '09 and '10 NBA Finals:

Kobe shoots: 22-74 (29.7%)
Gasol shoots: 20-34 (58.8%)

Getting carried in entire 4th quarters when he was supposed to be the best player on the team :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[SamuraiSWISH]

-In the 4th quarters of the '09 and '10 NBA Finals:

Kobe shoots: 22-74 (29.7%)
Gasol shoots: 20-34 (58.8%)

Getting carried in entire 4th quarters when he was supposed to be the best player on the team :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Even insinuating Gasol > Kobe in 2009 is sheer stupidity.

Of course the Magic would have more attention on Bryant in crunch time then they would on Pau Gasol. Who was clearly the benefactor of less defensive attention.

Kobe was clearly by far and away the best player in the series and on the Lakers.

Asserting otherwise is AutisticWater.

[Stringer Bell]

Olajuwon, obviously.

Hell, he even played very well in the 1986 finals in his 2nd year, against arguably the greatest frontcourt ever.

Watch game 5 (with the Sampson-Sichiting fight). Olajuwon went nuts.

[Mr Feeny]

Even insinuating Gasol > Kobe in 2009 is sheer stupidity.

Of course the Magic would have more attention on Bryant in crunch time then they would on Pau Gasol. Who was clearly the benefactor of less defensive attention.

Kobe was clearly by far and away the best player in the series and on the Lakers.

Asserting otherwise is AutisticWater.

Lebron gets the defense's attention in the 4th. MJ did. West did. Wade did.
They all shoot better than 30% in finals 4th quarters.

They also all shoot better than 41% for their finals careers.
Kobe is a woeful finals performer. You might disagree but the facts are the facts. He isn't a patch on most elite players when it comes to nba finals.

In crunch time both 2009 and 2010 he averaged 30%fg shooting in 4th quarters which isn't just bad.it horrific.

[ScalsFan21]

Still amazed this even made to a Page 2. This should have been a 4-post sweep.

Damn CAStill.

[JT123]

Lebron gets the defense's attention in the 4th. MJ did. West did. Wade did.
They all shoot better than 30% in finals 4th quarters.

They also all shoot better than 41% for their finals careers.
Kobe is a woeful finals performer. You might disagree but the facts are the facts. He isn't a patch on most elite players when it comes to nba finals.

In crunch time both 2009 and 2010 he averaged 30%fg shooting in 4th quarters which isn't just bad.it horrific.
:applause: Feeny doing what he does best, SCHOOLING posters with his vast knowledge of the game.