Cavs are making the same mistakes as the Heat did in their final years

[retaxis]

We know the truth that the Heat were beaten by the Spurs because the Spurs outplayed them on the wings. They were faster, crisper and had far more endurance. They outran the Heat and demolished them by getting to their spots faster.

Why did the Heat get disassembled that year while winning the year before? Age. The Heat wing players at the 2 and 3 were getting older and older (wade and Battier) and rashad Lewis was on his last legs as well. Spurs took advantage of their age and simply ran them out of the gym on every fast break.

Whats Cleveland doing now that is similar to the Heat that year? Simple
Firstly Cleveland is coming of a hardfought championship like the Heat did that year and Secondly Cleveland is once again, signing on old wing players..

Richard Jefferson/Mike Dunleavy are all old players who are at risk of being run out of town by their opponents.The Cavs are already defensively challenged in the sense that they have to be careful not to allow Kyrie and Love to play too many minutes together (bad defence). Sliding some near 40 year olds into that mix means it gets harder and harder to hide shoddy defenders against the young legs of the Warriors. Cavs need to be careful how much playing time they are throwing around this season as the Cavs can not afford to think that their sh1t smells great and could do no wrong. before they know it they could be in Golden States position!

[Kingwillball]

We know the truth that the Heat were beaten by the Spurs because the Spurs outplayed them on the wings. They were faster, crisper and had far more endurance. They outran the Heat and demolished them by getting to their spots faster.

Why did the Heat get disassembled that year while winning the year before? Age. The Heat wing players at the 2 and 3 were getting older and older (wade and Battier) and rashad Lewis was on his last legs as well. Spurs took advantage of their age and simply ran them out of the gym on every fast break.

Whats Cleveland doing now that is similar to the Heat that year? Simple
Firstly Cleveland is coming of a hardfought championship like the Heat did that year and Secondly Cleveland is once again, signing on old wing players..

Richard Jefferson/Mike Dunleavy are all old players who are at risk of being run out of town by their opponents.The Cavs are already defensively challenged in the sense that they have to be careful not to allow Kyrie and Love to play too many minutes together (bad defence). Sliding some near 40 year olds into that mix means it gets harder and harder to hide shoddy defenders against the young legs of the Warriors. Cavs need to be careful how much playing time they are throwing around this season as the Cavs can not afford to think that their sh1t smells great and could do no wrong. before they know it they could be in Golden States position!

First off Cavs have limited Flexibility so have no choice but to sign Vets on short contracts. Secondly RJ is in great condition and Dunleavy if healthy can still be a solid team defender. RJ, Frye and Dunleavy along with Bird will all only play 10-15 minutes a night so in LIMITED minutes should be fine. If they were playing starters minutes than I could see a problem.

[Ben Simmons]

Cavs have no cap space, who are they gonna sign.

Doesnt even matter. Warriors are stacked

[Im Still Ballin]

The problem with that comparison is as much as the old roleplayers were faulting.. Wade was as well. You had an out of position, under performing Bosh, and a broken down Wade

They did run out of steam, but it came from the top and trickled down

[moongaze]

Love how Kyrie continues to get labeled as a bad defender despite the so called best shooter ever shooting 40 percent for the series with him as his primary defender. That Kyrie, love pick and roll defense was so bad it shut green and curry down in the most important moment oc the season. I've only read two posts by op and I've concluded he's an idiot.

[RedBlackAttack]

We know the truth that the Heat were beaten by the Spurs because the Spurs outplayed them on the wings. They were faster, crisper and had far more endurance. They outran the Heat and demolished them by getting to their spots faster.

Why did the Heat get disassembled that year while winning the year before? Age. The Heat wing players at the 2 and 3 were getting older and older (wade and Battier) and rashad Lewis was on his last legs as well. Spurs took advantage of their age and simply ran them out of the gym on every fast break.

Whats Cleveland doing now that is similar to the Heat that year? Simple
Firstly Cleveland is coming of a hardfought championship like the Heat did that year and Secondly Cleveland is once again, signing on old wing players..

Richard Jefferson/Mike Dunleavy are all old players who are at risk of being run out of town by their opponents.The Cavs are already defensively challenged in the sense that they have to be careful not to allow Kyrie and Love to play too many minutes together (bad defence). Sliding some near 40 year olds into that mix means it gets harder and harder to hide shoddy defenders against the young legs of the Warriors. Cavs need to be careful how much playing time they are throwing around this season as the Cavs can not afford to think that their sh1t smells great and could do no wrong. before they know it they could be in Golden States position!
I sometimes wonder if people understand how the cap works. The Cavs are doing what they can under the circumstances, with essentially four max players on the books. When you have the kind of talent that they boast in the starting lineup and you have to pay for it, you have to take what you can get as far as depth goes.

It is the same "problem" the Heat faced except for one not so minor difference... the Cavs core is much younger than the Heat. Kyrie (24), Love (27) and Thompson (25) are all in the middle of their prime (Love) or haven't gotten there yet (Kyrie, TT).

That leaves crumbs for the rest of the roster and, all things considered, they've done a good job of compiling talent (JR, Shump, Frye, RJ, etc).

They just won a title, so something has gone right.

I'm also a little sick of hearing about defense considering the circumstances. Kyrie just averaged, what? 40+ minutes a game against a historically great offense, spent a lot of that time defending the unanimous back-to-back MVP and the Cavs won 4 out of the last 5 games. He must not be too bad.

[NattyPButter]

They are fine right now but next year and beyond they need to keep their 1st round picks and start developing. Once Lebron gone and retires Cleveland will have problem getting good FA to come join again.

[DukeDelonte13]

RJ still moves around quite while for an old guy.

[FireDavidKahn]

Ummmmm, who else can they get?

[Hey Yo]

The problem with that comparison is as much as the old roleplayers were faulting.. Wade was as well. You had an out of position, under performing Bosh, and a broken down Wade

They did run out of steam, but it came from the top and trickled down
Miami also had very little rebounding. Birdman was the 2nd leading rebounder avg. more (5.6 at 18mpg) than Bosh (5.2 at 36.3mpg) A bench player being the 2nd leading rebounder won't happen on this Cavs team.

TT provides what Miami was clearly lacking as they were -28 on the boards in the 2014 Finals.

[Meticode]

The Cavs team is a little different than Miami ever was. Bosh worked out better for Miami than Love so far has for Cleveland, but Miami never had a player of the caliber of Tristan Thompson. He's one of the best offensive rebounders in the league and he is capable of defending on the perimeter in spurts.

The Cavs core at heart that runs the motor is still young Thompson is 25, Irving is 24, Love is 27. Irving and THompson still have room to grow as players. When LeBron went to Miami, Bosh, LeBron and Wade were pretty close to their prime peaks already and peaked their second and third years there.