Can Lebrons MVPS in 09 and 10 be used in an argument against KoBe?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Because Methinks that Kobe actually deserved the MVP awards considering he jizzed all over the same teams that molly whopped Lebron in the east playoffs

[J Shuttlesworth]

Let's say we say no... even then

2 MVP > 1
3 FMVP > 2

But LeBron was clearly the best player in the world in 10

[FireDavidKahn]

Because Methinks that Kobe actually deserved the MVP awards considering he jizzed all over the same teams that molly whopped Lebron in the east playoffs
MVP is a regular season award...

[FreezingTsmoove]

Let's say we say no... even then

2 MVP > 1
3 FMVP > 2

But LeBron was clearly the best player in the world in 10

The MVP would have gone to Kobe then so it would be

3>2

And finals MVP cant be used also because Kobe would have won another or 2 rings had Stern not rigged the NBA so Lebron wouldnt have to face a Kobe/CP3 backcourt

Why was Lebron allowed to easily form superteams to win rings but Kobe not?

[J Shuttlesworth]

The MVP would have gone to Kobe then so it would be

3>2

And finals MVP cant be used also because Kobe would have won another or 2 rings had Stern not rigged the NBA so Lebron wouldnt have to face a Kobe/CP3 backcourt

Why was Lebron allowed to easily form superteams to win rings but Kobe not?
What the hell? so many mental gymnastics in this post :roll: :roll:

[FreezingTsmoove]

MVP is a regular season award...

Yes but the playoffs showed who was the more superior player

When you think back to 2009 and 2010 seasons you are not thinking Lebron you are thinking Kobe winning AGAIN

[Nilocon165]

Yes but the playoffs showed who was the more superior player

When you think back to 2009 and 2010 seasons you are not thinking Lebron you are thinking Kobe winning AGAIN
Lebron vs magic 2009 ECF: 38.5 PPG 8 RPG 8 APG

Kobe vs Magic 2009 Finals: 32.4 PPG 5 RPB 7 APG

What point are you trying to make

[ArbitraryWater]

What the hell? so many mental gymnastics in this post :roll: :roll:

srsly.. sad world

[J Shuttlesworth]

I guess by OP's logic, this voids Kobe's 2008 mvp award

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Paul+Pierce+NBA+Finals+Game+6+Los+Angeles+wo60aozX txwl.jpg

[FreezingTsmoove]

Lebron vs magic 2009 ECF: 38.5 PPG 8 RPG 8 APG

Kobe vs Magic 2009 Finals: 32.4 PPG 5 RPB 7 APG

What point are you trying to make

Wow a 6/3/1 difference LEBRON WAS CLEARLY THE SUPERIOR PLAYER!!!!

Anyway kobe bounced em in 5 while Lebron got molly whopped in 6

Stfu there is no argument for Lebron over Kobe in 09

Give me your mvp

[FreezingTsmoove]

I guess by OP's logic, this voids Kobe's 2008 mvp award

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Paul+Pierce+NBA+Finals+Game+6+Los+Angeles+wo60aozX txwl.jpg

Can you read the thread title again?

This is about 09 and 10

Did I mention 2011 2007 2015 or 2014 once?

[SouBeachTalents]

Wow a 6/3/1 difference LEBRON WAS CLEARLY THE SUPERIOR PLAYER!!!!

Anyway kobe bounced em in 5 while Lebron got molly whopped in 6

Stfu there is no argument for Lebron over Kobe in 09

Give me your mvp

What a meltdown. And as mentioned before, Kobe's MVP gets voided then after getting eliminated by 40 points in the Finals

[Nilocon165]

Wow a 6/3/1 difference LEBRON WAS CLEARLY THE SUPERIOR PLAYER!!!!

Anyway kobe bounced em in 5 while Lebron got molly whopped in 6

Stfu there is no argument for Lebron over Kobe in 09

Give me your mvp
Yes, because I just used stats to back it up.

[ArbitraryWater]

Wow a 6/3/1 difference LEBRON WAS CLEARLY THE SUPERIOR PLAYER!!!!

Anyway kobe bounced em in 5 while Lebron got molly whopped in 6

Stfu there is no argument for Lebron over Kobe in 09

Give me your mvp

:oldlol: thats a HUGE difference (7/3/1 even)

[ArbitraryWater]

OP right now is slowly coming to grips with the fact that Bron is superior by a good margin, but he still cant grasp it quite yet... hes fighting with himself.

[FreezingTsmoove]

OP right now is slowly coming to grips with the fact that Bron is superior by a good margin, but he still cant grasp it quite yet... hes fighting with himself.

Grasping for straws at a 7 point difference :lol

You know Lestans are delusional when they are trying to compare Kobes winning numbers against the Magic to Lebrons disgusting loss against the Magic :lol

Oh and btw 5 > 3

Good luck against Durant next year :lol

What will that make it 3/8 :lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

Can you read the thread title again?

This is about 09 and 10

Did I mention 2011 2007 2015 or 2014 once?
And by the same logic, Kobe shouldn't have any MVPs. If you say he should have 2 for 09 and 10, then we're comparing a 2MVP/2FMVP player to a 3MVP/3FMVP player in LeBron. Again, this is using your logic, which is complete horseshit btw

[SouBeachTalents]

Grasping for straws at a 7 point difference :lol

You know Lestans are delusional when they are trying to compare Kobes winning numbers against the Magic to Lebrons disgusting loss against the Magic :lol

Oh and btw 5 > 3

Good luck against Durant next year :lol

What will that make it 3/8 :lol

How much of a retard do you have to be to not see how much of a difference a 7 ppg margin makes. Add 7 ppg to LeBron's career average and he has serious arguments as GOAT

[FreezingTsmoove]

And by the same logic, Kobe shouldn't have any MVPs. If you say he should have 2 for 09 and 10, then we're comparing a 2MVP/2FMVP player to a 3MVP/3FMVP player in LeBron. Again, this is using your logic, which is complete horseshit btw

What logic why are you trying to compare other seasons in a thread thats about 2009 and 2010

Why dont you make a thread invalidating Kobes 08 season ???

[FreezingTsmoove]

How much of a retard do you have to be to not see how much of a difference a 7 ppg margin makes. Add 7 ppg to LeBron's career average and he has serious arguments as GOAT

Because he lost you ****ing retard

If Kobes dominant Lakers didnt absolutely shit on the Magic maybe Kobe could have scored a few more points you ****ing retard

Is it really that hard to understand you ****ing 12 yr old

[J Shuttlesworth]

Why dont you make a thread invalidating Kobes 08 season ???
Because you just did it by basically saying MVPs don't count if you don't win the ring this year. Christ, you can't even follow your own"logic"

[SouBeachTalents]

Because he lost you ****ing retard

If Kobes dominant Lakers didnt absolutely shit on the Magic maybe Kobe could have scored a few more points you ****ing retard

Is it really that hard to understand you ****ing 12 yr old

It's pretty simple, Kobe had the much better roster in '09 than LeBron did, which is something even a 12 year old would understand. Maybe you're just not up to that level of intellect yet

[J Shuttlesworth]

It's pretty simple, Kobe had the much better roster in '09 than LeBron did, which is something even a 12 year old would understand. Maybe you're just not up to that level of intellect yet
He obviously doesn't understand basketball.

[warriorfan]

LeBron stans are followers who swallow anything served to them by ESPN :lol

[Hey Yo]

Grasping for straws at a 7 point difference :lol

You know Lestans are delusional when they are trying to compare Kobes winning numbers against the Magic to Lebrons disgusting loss against the Magic :lol

Oh and btw 5 > 3

Good luck against Durant next year :lol

What will that make it 3/8 :lol
Is the definition of this


And finals MVP cant be used also because Kobe would have won another or 2 rings had Stern not rigged the NBA so Lebron wouldnt have to face a Kobe/CP3 backcourt

Why was Lebron allowed to easily form superteams to win rings but Kobe not?

[ShawkFactory]

Grasping for straws at a 7 point difference :lol

You know Lestans are delusional when they are trying to compare Kobes winning numbers against the Magic to Lebrons disgusting loss against the Magic :lol

Oh and btw 5 > 3

Good luck against Durant next year :lol

What will that make it 3/8 :lol
And you know YOU'RE delusional when you act as though everything else was equal in their two situations.

[Hoopz2332]

lebron has better numbers vs Magic and celtics than Kobe. OP lost:oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

Lebron carried Mo Williams, Delonte, and Zydrunas to 66 wins. Similar for 2010 where he carried the Cavs to 61 wins. Two of the best carryjobs of all time. You look at on/off numbers, the Cavs were just helpless when Lebron wasn't on the floor and that includes the defensive end. 09,10 Kobe aren't even his best regular seasons, he has about as much of an argument as anyone did for MVP over Shaq in 00.

[RRR3]

How much of a retard do you have to be to not see how much of a difference a 7 ppg margin makes. Add 7 ppg to LeBron's career average and he has serious arguments as GOAT
Add 7 PPG to LeBron's career and he is the GOAT. Period.


Here's what his stats would look like (keeping everything else the same)


Regular season: 34.2 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG on .498/.340/.744


Playoffs: 35.0 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG on .478/.321/.746



Plus, he'd have at minimum one more ring, possibly two.