Preseason: Lakers (Ingram) vs Sixers (Simmons)

[brandonislegend]

I'm back.

Lets go Lakeshow

[brandonislegend]

So much for off season hype

[brownmamba00]

ingram droppin 30 tonite

[Bosnian Sajo]

We about to go offfff, I wanna see more blocks from Zubac.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Same lineup as last night, aaaahhhh shiiiiieeeeeeeet :pimp:

[Relinquish]

Simmons dunk that

[Bosnian Sajo]

Ugggglllllyyyyy game so far.

[Bosnian Sajo]

D'angelo dunking FIERCE :applause:

[oh the horror]

Simmons needs to establish a solid respectable jump shot. Period. His passing is top notch.


Russell looks good.

[tpols]

the way simmons moves reminds me so much of blake griffin.

[SAKOTXA]

First time seeing D'Angelo get up like that

They gotta feed Ingram and Zubac though

[brownmamba00]

DLo showing he can be THAT floor general we need him to be.

[toxicxr6]

DLo showing he can be THAT floor general we need him to be.

Lol 1 assist
1-6 shooting
2 turnovers

In the summer league...
He is absolute trash

Edit 3 turnovers...

[SAKOTXA]

DLo showing he can be THAT floor general we need him to be.
Honestly he isn't. Clarkson is better at point than Russell. Luke will realize that before the season starts, hopefully.

[brownmamba00]

Lol 1 assist
1-6 shooting
2 turnovers

In the summer league...
He is absolute trash

Edit 3 turnovers...
are you watching?:confusedshrug:

players are missing bunnies

[Meticode]

DLo showing he can be THAT floor general we need him to be.
No, no he's not. :facepalm Plus it's a pre-f*cking-season game.

[IGOTGAME]

No, no he's not. :facepalm Plus it's a pre-f*cking-season game.

i think he could be a good player, but his playmaking has been meh in these game

[toxicxr6]

are you watching?:confusedshrug:

players are missing bunnies


Yeah the person missing all the bunnies is Russell you retard
And he isn't even playing against NBA talent

[no pun intended]

summer league. lol. yall niqqas need to chill your ass.

[Prime_Shaq]

Don't really like Russell, I love Ingram though.

[brownmamba00]

Nance gonna be good...second steal on simmons

[oh the horror]

Yeah the person missing all the bunnies is Russell you retard
And he isn't even playing against NBA talent



He'll be fine. Now that Kobe is out and not the focal point of their season it'll be interesting to watch the talent able to do their own thing. People forget that Russell is 20 years old. They're all SO damn young




By the way Jamie Fox looking like a clown.

[SAKOTXA]

Jamie is high as fu.ck

[oh the horror]

Nance gonna be good...second steal on simmons



Gotta respect his hustle for sure.

[brownmamba00]

Yeah the person missing all the bunnies is Russell you retard
And he isn't even playing against NBA talent
lakers are shooting 25% right now you inbred child

everybody is missing shots

[SAKOTXA]

Wtf are you talking Jamie? Sounds like a fu.cking moron

[ZenMaster]

Whole Lakers team must have been to Rehab all afternoon..

[Milbuck]

Honestly not that impressed with any of these guys. I'm sure it's just a bad night all around but this is next level sloppy.

[tpols]

lmao off @ that jamie foxx interview .. just blerting out so many cliches and contrived positivity .. damn.

[IGOTGAME]

Honestly not that impressed with any of these guys. I'm sure it's just a bad night all around but this is next level sloppy.

Tom Penn going nuts over that poorly placed pass on the break annoyed the hell out of me for some reason. I really hope he gets a front office job so I never have to hear him again

[SAKOTXA]

This is terrible :oldlol:

[Relinquish]

Ingram looks fking awful so far

[SAKOTXA]

25 points in 23 minutes of play :facepalm

[KiiiiNG]

Simmons is pass-first because he's too scared to score himself. :oldlol:

Timid f@ggot. Only noobs are impressed with these passes.

[FireMcFailPlease]

Dont think we have to worry about the Lakers making any noise for the next x amount of years.

[Relinquish]

Dont think we have to worry about the Lakers making any noise for the next x amount of years.

:applause: :applause:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Back-2-back games after not playing for so long leaves you a little rusty.

[Relinquish]

Grant :bowdown: :bowdown:

[branslowski]

Grant OMFG, :bowdown:

[SAKOTXA]

Holy shit

[IGOTGAME]

Russell as been horrible tonight with playmaking

[Bosnian Sajo]

This is the worst game I've ever watched.

[CelticBaller]

Lakers :oldlol:

[SAKOTXA]

Nance :bowdown: :bowdown:

[oh the horror]

Simmons is pass-first because he's too scared to score himself. :oldlol:

Timid f@ggot. Only noobs are impressed with these passes.



If you aren't impressed with his passes for his size then you're an idiot. The kid has court vision for days. However he has minimal scoring ability at this point. Dude has to get a jumper

[Milbuck]

#DoItForZubac

[Bosnian Sajo]

Larryyyyyyyy :bowdown:

[Relinquish]

That pass was absolutely FILTHY :eek:

[FireMcFailPlease]

If you aren't impressed with his passes for his size then you're an idiot. The kid has court vision for days. However he has minimal scoring ability at this point. Dude has to get a jumper
thats where im at with him. Impressed as hell with his dishes on the drive...but if you cant shoot, its tough to make it in the league.

[FireDavidKahn]

https://vine.co/v/5Wr2TtpYXQB

[Relinquish]

If you aren't impressed with his passes for his size then you're an idiot. The kid has court vision for days. However he has minimal scoring ability at this point. Dude has to get a jumper

You'd think a Bran stan would be a fan of Simmons considering that he's basically the closest thing to Lebron of recent, but nope. :lol

[KiiiiNG]

are you watching?:confusedshrug:

players are missing bunnies
And russell is missing EVERYTHING...

lol kid stinks.

[IGOTGAME]

thats where im at with him. Impressed as hell with his dishes on the drive...but if you cant shoot, its tough to make it in the league.

yea, once the scouting report is out with better player, a lot of those passes are going to be turnovers. Its not even like he is just a bad shooter, he isnt even a shooter. He just won't shoot.

He is only played I've seen positively effected by the defensive 3 second call because defenders can't just sag into the paint and leave him open from 14 feet. He is that bad of a shooter.

[Bosnian Sajo]

And russell is missing EVERYTHING...

lol kid stinks.

Whaaaaa

[FireDavidKahn]

yea, once the scouting report is out with better player, a lot of those passes are going to be turnovers. Its not even like he is just a bad shooter, he isnt even a shooter. He just won't shoot.

He is only played I've seen positively effected by the defensive 3 second call because defenders can't just sag into the paint and leave him open from 14 feet. He is that bad of a shooter.
He is worse than Rubio and Smart.

[SAKOTXA]

Love Nance. This dude's going to be around for a long long time

[Bosnian Sajo]

WHO DAT?? WHAT HIS NAME? :pimp:

[CelticBaller]

WHO DAT?? WHAT HIS NAME? :pimp:
Even Brian scalabrine can make a three

[FireMcFailPlease]

LMFAO. great play.

[IGOTGAME]

He is worse than Rubio and Smart.

yup, a lot worst. I don't know how much you can fix this

[AirTupac]

D'Angelo is gonna have a breakout season

[Relinquish]

D'Angelo is gonna have a breakout season

4-14, 4 ast, 6 TOs in summer league :bowdown: :bowdown:

Future GOAT :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Bosnian Sajo]

:cry:



It's gonna be alright bro, it could be worse. You could of passed on Kris Dunn for Jaylen Brown.



:coleman:

[oh the horror]

thats where im at with him. Impressed as hell with his dishes on the drive...but if you cant shoot, its tough to make it in the league.



Yeah man. I mean you're essentially useless if the defense knows you're going to pass the ball. He's going to have a hell of a time adjusting out there with no reliable jumper at all. Like others said he won't even attempt to shoot it.


But he can definitely dish that rock man. But as someone else said once defenses figure him out he's going to be racking up turnovers out there.

[brownmamba00]

And russell is missing EVERYTHING...

lol kid stinks.
ha

[Relinquish]

It's gonna be alright bro, it could be worse. You could of passed on Kris Dunn for Jaylen Brown.



:coleman:

Lakers also passed on Dunn for Ingram :lol :lol

Lakers :lol

[AirTupac]

Lakers also passed on Dunn for Ingram :lol :lol

Lakers :lol

You'd be a retard to pick Dunn over Ingram at 2 :oldlol:

[Sportal]

WHO DAT?? WHAT HIS NAME? :pimp:

I don't know.. I'm watching UFC.

[Relinquish]

You'd be a retard to pick Dunn over Ingram at 2 :oldlol:

Enjoy the twig :lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

Lakers also passed on Dunn for Ingram :lol :lol

Lakers :lol


Kevin Durant or Reggie Jackson?

[Relinquish]

Kevin Durant or Reggie Jackson?

MVP or twig

Lakers :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Enjoy the twig :lol


:lol :lol :lol :lol


Love you bro :lol

[Relinquish]

:lol :lol :lol :lol


Love you bro :lol

:cheers:

[AirTupac]

Enjoy the twig :lol

18 years old :lol :lol :lol

[SAKOTXA]

Holy fu.cking shit. Nance!!!!

[Bosnian Sajo]

MVP or twig

Lakers :oldlol:


:lol Got me




You're silly:lol



LARRY NANCE ****IN YO BITCH MID POST :lol


LARRY! LARRY! LARRY!:lol


**** your :lol's you ****ing ******, ****.

[Relinquish]

:lol Got me




You're silly:lol



LARRY NANCE ****IN YO BITCH MID POST :lol


LARRY! LARRY! LARRY!:lol


**** your :lol's you ****ing ******, ****.

Nothing wrong with Larry jr :cheers:

[Bosnian Sajo]

:cheers:

I don't really like you tho, you lame as fuuuck..and 99% sure you ugly af.



1 point game :applause:

[Relinquish]

I don't really like you tho, you lame as fuuuck..and 99% sure you ugly af.



1 point game :applause:

:biggums:

hating ass

btw nice rhyme

[AirTupac]

Larry Nance Jr. best player on the court

[Relinquish]

If Blake can learn to shoot, I have no doubt in my mind that Simmons will figure it out eventually.

[SAKOTXA]

I like this kid Auguste too

[Relinquish]

I like this kid Auguste too

He's nasty. Was honestly surprised he went undrafted.

Too many teams drafted trash euro players :facepalm

[Relinquish]

Twig getting open looks :rockon:

[SAKOTXA]

Ingram's form is sexy as fu.ck

[Relinquish]

I think twig won't do much until he puts on weight unless he's wide open. The potential is there though.

[oh the horror]

Ingram learning very quickly that the NBA is a man's game. However the kid will be fine. He's 18 years old or so? It's like I said these kids are going to need time to grow together

[ISHGoat]

Simmons looks really disengaged out there. Not a good sign.

[FireMcFailPlease]

Simmons, like at LSU, will probably not take a shot in the final few minutes here

[Ben Simmons]

Not watching, Is Simmons a good driver? Blake has handles but he cant attack the basket like Lebron.

[FireMcFailPlease]

Not watching, Is Simmons a good driver? Blake has handles but he cant attack the basket like Lebron.
why the hell is your handle Ben Simmons if you have no idea if hes a good driver or not?

[cranincu]

Simmons looks really terrible. He's playing like an even worse Rondo with his supposedly freak body.

[FireMcFailPlease]

lmao @ Tj Mcconnell. Dork

[ZenMaster]

Ingram learning very quickly that the NBA is a man's game. However the kid will be fine. He's 18 years old or so? It's like I said these kids are going to need time to grow together

Most importantly, he hasn't played a back to back who knows how long against this players this physical..He's looked tired from the start.

[CelticBaller]

The GOAT

[brownmamba00]

:oldlol:

[SAKOTXA]

Instead of saying you got ice in your veins you should have picked your man up Russell :facepalm

[Relinquish]

oh shit :eek:

[CelticBaller]

:oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

YEEEAA RUUSSSSS :bowdown:


ICE IN MY MUTHA FUUUUCKIN VEINS, BITCCCHHHHH

[Bobcats2013]

the snitch :bowdown:

[SAKOTXA]

Lmao nice ending to a shitty game. McConnell's face :lol :lol :lol :lol

[FireMcFailPlease]

LMFAO..Mcconnell talking trash to Russell before the inbound, came back to haunt him

[brownmamba00]

where the haters at :applause: :bowdown:

[bigkingsfan]

Championship!

[cranincu]

holy shit playoff bound baby

lakers train wassup, get on it

[FireMcFailPlease]

LMFAO!! I played like s*it!!

[Relinquish]

russell :roll:

[CelticBaller]

"I played like shit" on national TV :roll:

[Hey Yo]

Nice shot....impressive.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I PLAYED LIKE SHIT :lol



THE FRANCHISE :bowdown:

[Milbuck]

I PLAYED LIKE SHIT

lmfao

[Bobcats2013]

the espn cut audio guy gives zero phucks

[KiiiiNG]

Dude is hype over a summer league game

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[ISHGoat]

"I played like shit!"

[FireDavidKahn]

https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/751966950557757440

Louder than any Lakers game this past year.

[IGOTGAME]

that was embarrassing as a Lakers fan.

[FireDavidKahn]

https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/751967291236052992

No respect for the little kids who are watching.:facepalm

[Bosnian Sajo]

that was embarrassing as a Lakers fan.


lol, **** off.

[BallsOut]

I PLAYED LIKE SHIT

lmfao

He got ice in his veins even in interviews :bowdown:

[AirTupac]

D'Angelo shut errybody up

[RedBlackAttack]

that was embarrassing as a Lakers fan.
That bad?

I didn't get to see any of it. Anyone want to recap? How did Simmons/Ingram look? How about the other young players for each team?

[CuterThanRubio]

Simmons is going to be a turnover machine, especially without any decent teammates.

LeBron was confident that he could actually catch fire with his jumper from time to time, this guy won't even attempt to find a rhythm, bail out shots only!

There is a difference between pounding the ball with the intent of being the sole distributor and creating momentum with the pass before the pass, not saying he won't figure it out but that is what it seems like to me so far.

His rebounding could conceal a lot of his weaknesses too, definitely deserving of the top pick but I'm not crowning him until I see results in real games.

Empty stats all game long and disappearing during crunch time, not impressed!

[KiiiiNG]

that was embarrassing as a Lakers fan.
It really was. The immaturity of Russell is really sad. He wants attention and thinks he's cool, but there's nothing cool about it and it's an embarrassment to the basketball community.

Hold this L forever Lakers fans

[tpols]

McConnell talkin shit after that layup lol .. had to go toe to toe with rustle .. jimmies russell'd for real. :pimp:

[Bosnian Sajo]

That bad?

I didn't get to see any of it. Anyone want to recap? How did Simmons/Ingram look? How about the other young players for each team?


Russell hit big shots late and drained the game winning, buzzer beating 3 pointed. It was anything but embarrassing.


That dude isn't even a Lakers fan, I wouldn't take him seriously...

[cranincu]

It really was. The immaturity of Russell is really sad. He wants attention and thinks he's cool, but there's nothing cool about it and it's an embarrassment to the basketball community.

Hold this L forever Lakers fans
bruh, your a dubs fan

aka team full of dudes that hype up every shot they make

[tpols]

Simmons is going to be a turnover machine, especially without any decent teammates.

LeBron was confident that he could actually catch fire with his jumper from time to time, this guy won't even attempt to find a rhythm, bail out shots only!

There is a difference between pounding the ball with the intent of being the sole distributor and creating momentum with the pass before the pass, not saying he won't figure it out but that is what it seems like to me so far.

His rebounding could conceal a lot of his weaknesses too, definitely deserving of the top pick but I'm not crowning him until I see results in real games.

Empty stats all game long and disappearing during crunch time, not impressed!

he is a slimmer blake griffin .. not much else.

[brownmamba00]

That bad?

I didn't get to see any of it. Anyone want to recap? How did Simmons/Ingram look? How about the other young players for each team?
Ingram was quiet the first 3 quarters but had his moments in the 4th.


Nance esp was very impressive 4 blocks 7 steals absolute workhorse

[IGOTGAME]

That bad?

I didn't get to see any of it. Anyone want to recap? How did Simmons/Ingram look? How about the other young players for each team?

Simmons can pass but is afraid to shoot. Zubick would actually run away from him to under the basket and he still wouldnt shoot.

Ingram played poorly. Didn't really get many good looks as Russell dominated the ball and made no effort to get him any touches.

Russell got abused by McConnell off the dribble all game. He got hot in the second half and hit a gamewinner (this is after TJ tied the game up on a layup bc Russell was pointed to his arms in transition). He celebrated like it was the NBA Finals, throwing up some sort of signs, screaming and cursing during the interview. I'm trying to like this kid but its very hard.

Nance looks better than Randle to me.

[AirTupac]

Nance just looks like a stud. Its not a knock on Randle to say Nance should start at the 4. He's 23. He knows what hes doing. He plays like a vet. Mature, calm, hustles for everything, jumps out of the building, rebounds, defence, can shoot.

[RedBlackAttack]

Simmons is going to be a turnover machine, especially without any decent teammates.

LeBron was confident that he could actually catch fire with his jumper from time to time, this guy won't even attempt to find a rhythm, bail out shots only!

There is a difference between pounding the ball with the intent of being the sole distributor and creating momentum with the pass before the pass, not saying he won't figure it out but that is what it seems like to me so far.

His rebounding could conceal a lot of his weaknesses too, definitely deserving of the top pick but I'm not crowning him until I see results in real games.

Empty stats all game long and disappearing during crunch time, not impressed!
I'm not trying to be disparaging to Simmons' game, because I think he could be an All-Star in this league with his excellent court vision and mobility for his size .... but any comparison to a young LeBron James should be checked at the door.

He's just not that level of talent. Not particularly close, either. Sixers fans should be thinking more Blake Griffin minus some of the hops, but add in great court vision. That's a damn good player, but it isn't close to James. He was a phenom right out of the gates.

Here he is right out of the gates ... first preseason game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl0Z-6HLlw

He didn't have a particularly good night, but just watch the way he moves and his almost innate understanding of where players were on the floor. He's the greatest natural athlete I've ever seen in my lifetime. Not the greatest basketball player, mind you. He's in the Top 10 all-time, imo, with several years of great basketball left. But, the greatest talent, for sure. Any comparison to him is going to make Simmons look underwhelming. That shouldn't be what people expect.

[CelticBaller]

I'm not trying to be disparaging to Simmons' game, because I think he could be an All-Star in this league with his excellent court vision and mobility for his size .... but any comparison to a young LeBron James should be checked at the door.

He's just not that level of talent. Not particularly close, either. Sixers fans should be thinking more Blake Griffin minus some of the hops, but add in great court vision. That's a damn good player, but it isn't close to James. He was a phenom right out of the gates.

Here he is right out of the gates ... first preseason game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl0Z-6HLlw

He didn't have a particularly good night, but just watch the way he moves and his almost innate understanding of where players were on the floor. He's the greatest natural athlete I've ever seen in my lifetime. Not the greatest basketball player, mind you. The greatest talent, for sure.
Blake Griffin?

What are you talking about :roll:

[BallsOut]

Simmons can pass but is afraid to shoot. Zubick would actually run away from him to under the basket and he still wouldnt shoot.

Ingram played poorly. Didn't really get many good looks as Russell dominated the ball and made no effort to get him any touches.

Russell got abused by McConnell off the dribble all game. He got hot in the second half and hit a gamewinner (this is after TJ tied the game up on a layup bc Russell was pointed to his arms in transition). He celebrated like it was the NBA Finals, throwing up some sort of signs, screaming and cursing during the interview. I'm trying to like this kid but its very hard.

Nance looks better than Randle to me.

Ingram shot poorly. As did Russell. Russell made a huge long 2 to tie up the game. Instead of getting back to play defense, he started celebrating and McConnell ran all the way in for a layup. Sixers up 2. After that McConnell started trash talking Russell. 1.8 seconds left, Russell catches the inbound and nails the game winning 3 with McConnell draped all over him.

Ice in his veins got haters like you shook :bowdown:

[IGOTGAME]

I'm not trying to be disparaging to Simmons' game, because I think he could be an All-Star in this league with his excellent court vision and mobility for his size .... but any comparison to a young LeBron James should be checked at the door.

He's just not that level of talent. Not particularly close, either. Sixers fans should be thinking more Blake Griffin minus some of the hops, but add in great court vision. That's a damn good player, but it isn't close to James. He was a phenom right out of the gates.

Here he is right out of the gates ... first preseason game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl0Z-6HLlw

He didn't have a particularly good night, but just watch the way he moves and his almost innate understanding of where players were on the floor. He's the greatest natural athlete I've ever seen in my lifetime. Not the greatest basketball player, mind you. He's in the Top 10 all-time, imo, with several years of great basketball left. But, the greatest talent, for sure. Any comparison to him is going to make Simmons look underwhelming. That shouldn't be what people expect.

the are very similar passers, except I think Lebron had slightly better placement at 17 when he entered. But other than that Lebron was just better in every way.

Not trying to hate on Simmons, but I agree.

[BallsOut]

I'm not trying to be disparaging to Simmons' game, because I think he could be an All-Star in this league with his excellent court vision and mobility for his size .... but any comparison to a young LeBron James should be checked at the door.

He's just not that level of talent. Not particularly close, either. Sixers fans should be thinking more Blake Griffin minus some of the hops, but add in great court vision. That's a damn good player, but it isn't close to James. He was a phenom right out of the gates.

Here he is right out of the gates ... first preseason game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl0Z-6HLlw

He didn't have a particularly good night, but just watch the way he moves and his almost innate understanding of where players were on the floor. He's the greatest natural athlete I've ever seen in my lifetime. Not the greatest basketball player, mind you. He's in the Top 10 all-time, imo, with several years of great basketball left. But, the greatest talent, for sure. Any comparison to him is going to make Simmons look underwhelming. That shouldn't be what people expect.

The Lebron comparisons are fair. Even Lebron himself thinks it's a good comparison. You should've watched the game tonight. Simmons has elite passing ability. He even put up a near triple double without a jumpshot.

[CuterThanRubio]

I'm not trying to be disparaging to Simmons' game, because I think he could be an All-Star in this league with his excellent court vision and mobility for his size .... but any comparison to a young LeBron James should be checked at the door.

He's just not that level of talent. Not particularly close, either. Sixers fans should be thinking more Blake Griffin minus some of the hops, but add in great court vision. That's a damn good player, but it isn't close to James. He was a phenom right out of the gates.

Here he is right out of the gates ... first preseason game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl0Z-6HLlw

He didn't have a particularly good night, but just watch the way he moves and his almost innate understanding of where players were on the floor. He's the greatest natural athlete I've ever seen in my lifetime. Not the greatest basketball player, mind you. The greatest talent, for sure.

No doubt!

Simmons can't score the ball (in summer league against scrubs, JIMMER dropped 28 today, come on!), LeBron NEVER struggled to get buckets outside of a few famous instances of mental fragility, there isn't much to compare besides passing skills, and LeBron is the best passing big man next to Magic so its going to take a lot for me to be convinced.

[Collie]

I actually think Simmons is a more creative passer than young Lebron, if that makes sense. Not saying he's a better passer, but there's a smoothness to his passing that you mostly see on pointguards like Nash or Magic. Young Lebron reminded me more of Pippen.

Lebron is a pure point forward. He's a forward with one of the best passing skills of all time, but still obviously a forward. Same thing with Giannis, who's a forward who can play point. Simmons is like a big Rondo at this point... a PG who's 6'10.

[KingPush]

why the hell is your handle Ben Simmons if you have no idea if hes a good driver or not?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Ben Simmons]

why the hell is your handle Ben Simmons if you have no idea if hes a good driver or not?
I mean on a near nba level. He can drive because the defense is so garbage in other leagues

[FireDavidKahn]

LOL.

Russell literally was celebrating like it was the Finals.

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/751980071968075776

:facepalm

[GOBB]

he is a slimmer blake griffin .. not much else.

Ben and Blake have nothing in common besides being light skin and listed at PF.

[GOBB]

I actually think Simmons is a more creative passer than young Lebron, if that makes sense. Not saying he's a better passer, but there's a smoothness to his passing that you mostly see on pointguards like Nash or Magic. Young Lebron reminded me more of Pippen.

Lebron is a pure point forward. He's a forward with one of the best passing skills of all time, but still obviously a forward. Same thing with Giannis, who's a forward who can play point. Simmons is like a big Rondo at this point... a PG who's 6'10.

I read bold then go back to the part where you say he's not a better passer than Lebron. You compare Ben passing to the likes of Nash, Magic. And Bron of Pippen. Pippen was never as good of a passer as Nash or Magic. I'm so confused. :confusedshrug:

[tpols]

Ben and Blake have nothing in common besides being light skin and listed at PF.

yea they do.. they both cant shoot.. both got handles and feel, open court spin moves galore.. good open court feel, but again .. cant shoot, so no spacing provided, awkward halfcourt.

[Collie]

I read bold then go back to the part where you say he's not a better passer than Lebron. You compare Ben passing to the likes of Nash, Magic. And Bron of Pippen. Pippen was never as good of a passer as Nash or Magic. I'm so confused. :confusedshrug:

I'm hesistant to say he's a better passer (in terms of effectiveness, getting his teammates involved, etc.) because he hasn't played an actual game yet. That's literally it. I'm not saying he's worse, I just don't want to judge his complete package as a passer vs Lebron right now.

What I'm just saying is that his creativity (technical passing skills) is actually better than Lebron's, from what I've observed.

[CelticBaller]

yea they do.. they both cant shoot.. both got handles and feel, open court spin moves galore.. good open court feel, but again .. cant shoot, so no spacing provided, awkward halfcourt.
Except Ben has more Length, better handles, quicker and better vision

Plus Blake has more vertical and is a better dunker, these two couldn't be any more different

[GOBB]

yea they do.. they both cant shoot.. both got handles and feel, open court spin moves galore.. good open court feel, but again cant shoot, so no spacing provided.

Blake has taken jumpers since college and actually improved his mid range jumper. Ben Simmons still has a small sample size of even attempting jumpers let alone arguing FG%. Blake is not nearly as bad of a shooter as Ben is nor has he ever been. Ben handles are far superior to that of Blake. Ben can run your team in half court, full court.

So yeah not really seeing a comparison between the two at all. I mean is that all you have for comparison sake? You need more than that. Pretty lazy ass comparison brotha :confusedshrug:

[GOBB]

I'm hesistant to say he's a better passer (in terms of effectiveness, getting his teammates involved, etc.) because he hasn't played an actual game yet. That's literally it. I'm not saying he's worse, I just don't want to judge his complete package as a passer vs Lebron right now.

What I'm just saying is that his creativity (technical passing skills) is actually better than Lebron's, from what I've observed.

Gotcha. :cheers:

[tpols]

Blake has taken jumpers since college and actually improved his mid range jumper. Ben Simmons still has a small sample size of even attempting jumpers let alone arguing FG%. Blake is not nearly as bad of a shooter as Ben is nor has he ever been. Ben handles are far superior to that of Blake. Ben can run your team in half court, full court.

So yeah not really seeing a comparison between the two at all. I mean is that all you have for comparison sake? You need more than that. Pretty lazy ass comparison brotha :confusedshrug:

they move similarly .. just watchin .. unbiased towards philly.. I dont care what happens to guy or your franchise. i legit feel they move similarly, it's almost uncanny. The spin moves and open court movement.. Simmons has a great feel for the pass I guess, more than blake to compensate for the lack of above the rim explosion.. but without a jumper it's going to be moot. Just like how its been for blake. :confusedshrug:

[CelticBaller]

they move similarly .. just watchin .. unbiased towards philly.. I dont care what happens to guy or your franchise. i legit feel they move similarly, it's almost uncanny. The spin moves and open court movement.. Simmons has a great feel for the pass I guess, more than blake to compensate for the lack of above the rim explosion.. but without a jumper it's going to be moot. Just like how its been for blake. :confusedshrug:
I'm a Celtics fan and I hate the suxers. But you have to be really lazy or dumb to compare Simmons to Blake. One I would see run an offense in the NBA and handle the ball 80% of the time, and the other would run fast breaks and picks to go for dunks or inside shots

[tpols]

I'm a Celtics fan and I hate the suxers. But you have to be really lazy or dumb to compare Simmons to Blake. One I would see run an offense in the NBA and handle the ball 80% of the time, and the other would run fast breaks and picks to go for dunks or inside shots

lol.. have you ever seen healthy blake griffin play .. ? he's an absolute beast and would be able to lead charge more than anything simmons ever shown in some summerleague if it werent for a certain chris paul on his team taking up the touches (which is a good thing).

[CelticBaller]

lol.. have you ever seen healthy blake griffin play .. ? he's an absolute beast and would be able to lead charge more than anything simmon shown in some summerleague if it werent for a certain chris paul on his team.
Yeah I saw him play during the del negro years fool. Back then he couldn't average more than 4 ast per game couldn't handle the ball nearly as good as Simmons


Again you're comparing way too different players, Simmons does not play like Blake at all. The only thing they have in common is height tbh

[tpols]

Yeah I saw him play during the del negro years fool. Back then he couldn't average more than 4 ast per game couldn't handle the ball nearly as good as Simmons


Again you're comparing way too different players, Simmons does not play like Blake at all. The only thing they have in common is height tbh

alright dude .. they have similar dribble styles, and improv attacking the rim due to lack of shooting. im just callin them like I see them .. multiple other posters said the same thing .. I said same thing from the start. Blake is better finisher, simmons got some more feel for passin.. thats about it. otherwise they move about very similarly.. thats my opinion dummy.

you say you saw one or the other average certein amount of assists or whatever .. i dont care. I watch a lot of basketball, seen a lot of blake, and simmons moves like him point blank.

[Milbuck]

The Blake comparisons break apart for the simple fact that Blake is a big with some guard skills, Simmons is a guard who happens to be big.

Simmons' vision is ELITE by any standard, like his court vision is up there with pretty much anyone this side of CP3 and Rubio. Blake is a great passer for a PF but he's nothing super special. Simmons is capable of being your primary ball handler like a true point forward. Blake is just a big with some crafty dribble moves.

[tpols]

The Blake comparisons break apart for the simple fact that Blake is a big with some guard skills, Simmons is a guard who happens to be big. .

how can simmons be a guard when he's being conceded jumpers worse than evan turner? .. at a certain point .. defenders are only going to guard you at the rim if they see you cant shoot, so you're left playing with the big guys. i also think you're underrating blake griffins handling ability.. he can legit dribble circles around guys if he wants.

[AirTupac]

how can simmons be a guard when he's being conceded jumpers worse than evan turner? .. at a certain point .. defenders are only going to guard you at the rim if they see you cant shoot. i also think you're underrating blake griffins handling ability.. he can legit dribble circles around guys if he wants.

Man you are just wrong. Simmons dribbles so effortlessly and glides across the court. He's a natural at it. They are not the same at all. Milbuck hit the nail on the head.

[tpols]

Man you are just wrong. Simmons dribbles so effortlessly and glides across the court. He's a natural at it. They are not the same at all. Milbuck hit the nail on the head.

well .. i disagree. Blake griffin has shown that same ability to me .. :confusedshrug:

[tpols]

http://i.giphy.com/9EvH0GMRxVvR6.gif

http://i.giphy.com/I0zAZaEjGkbC0.gif


like blake cant make it look effortless .. a PF duping a 6'0 speed demon pg multiple times .. "gliding effortlessly" .. word. :rolleyes:

[AirTupac]

Cherry picking the same highlight eh. How many times have I seen Blake try to do the same thing and turn it over? or do something stupid? Too many times. Its cause he's not a natural at it like Simmons is. Simmons is more fluid in his handles and just has a better feel to it.

[34-24 Footwork]

Besides dunking, there is NOTHING that Blake Griffin does that looks effortless.

[tpols]

dont know how i can cherrypick something ive never posted nor seen posted here before .. but true. i think simmons and blake use similar improv attacking the rim.. w/ spins.. both can handle open court, both wide athletic builds.. better passing for ben, better dunking / finishing for blake .. intuitively.. it looks like they move similarly.. there's no wrong here dude.. you dont even know what you're arguing.

[bdreason]

Nance Jr. looked good. He could be the Lakers version of DrayGod.

Russell can't defend a light pole.

I'm not worried about Simmons or Ingram. They have a long time to develop, and all the tools are there.

[KingPush]

dont know how i can cherrypick something ive never posted nor seen posted here before .. but true. i think simmons and blake use similar improv attacking the rim.. w/ spins.. both can handle open court, both wide athletic builds.. better passing for ben, better dunking / finishing for blake .. intuitively.. it looks like they move similarly.. there's no wrong here dude.. you dont even know what you're arguing.
Shut the **** you stupid shit

[SamuraiSWISH]

The Blake comparisons break apart for the simple fact that Blake is a big with some guard skills, Simmons is a guard who happens to be big.

Simmons' vision is ELITE by any standard, like his court vision is up there with pretty much anyone this side of CP3 and Rubio. Blake is a great passer for a PF but he's nothing super special. Simmons is capable of being your primary ball handler like a true point forward. Blake is just a big with some crafty dribble moves.
Wait you got Simmons court vision higher than Bron? My how quickly they forget.

[KobeLookLike2Pac]

Reading through this thread.

DLo completely bukaked KiiiiNG and IGOTGAME (aka no ice in veins). :roll:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/169/404/OFcfXQ3qWkjl4g5iIxVwXkFpo1_500.jpg

How embarrassing for them :roll:

[BallsOut]

Nance Jr. looked good. He could be the Lakers version of DrayGod.

Russell can't defend a light pole.

I'm not worried about Simmons or Ingram. They have a long time to develop, and all the tools are there.

I'm expecting Julius Randle to be the Draymond Green of the Lakers. He has the skills. Just needs to hit the jumper reliably.

Curry can't defend a light pole either. What's your point?

[AirTupac]

Russell is a decent defender. This game didnt do him justice.