Is Dwyane Wade the culprit of LeBron Ball

[JohnMax]

How do we know its not Wade making Stars worse?

-LeBron and Shaq had their worst Finals with him
-Bosh and Dragic played their best when he didn't play
-Kyrie has no problem playing well with Lebron
-Hamtaro CP3KDKG said Miami never had a top 10 offense without Lebron or Shaq






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[dubnation]

Bro I'm worried about you... Are you really this retarded?

[Nike D'Antoni]

Wade not a great shooter from 3 point line, this is why he cant play the role player role perfectly to Lebron or Shaq. He is type of player that needs ball in his hands to be effective.

He still done great job, and won 3 rings.His defence is most underrated part of his game.

[GrapeApe]

Shaq finished 2nd in MVP voting in 2005. By the 2006 finals he was in a pretty sharp decline so of course he had his worst finals. The only other star that Wade played with was Lebron and he won 2 MVP's and 2 FMVP's. Dragic was never a star to begin with, but he and Wade played very well together last season after the all-star break. Before the blood clots, in 2015 and 2016 Bosh was having his most productive seasons since 2010.

Look at the teams prime Wade had without Shaq and Lebron. It should come as no surprise that they weren't top 10 offenses.

[ScalsFan21]

Wade not a great shooter from 3 point line, this is why he cant play the role player role perfectly to Lebron or Shaq. He is type of player that needs ball in his hands to be effective.

He still done great job, and won 3 rings.His defence is most underrated part of his game.

He developed a quality off-ball cutting game when LeBron was finally (rightfully) handed the keys in Miami as he should've been from the start, but yeah that shot... not good. The 2014 Finals he essentially showed how big of a negative impact a bad shooter who isn't at their best can really have on a team, especially when they're effectively grandfathered into big minutes.

With that said, LeBron dropped the ball in 2011 and was the biggest reason for that loss. It was bad. Wade-ball isn't necessarily conducive to GREAT play by teammates, but he's far from the only superstar with that distinction. LeBron never should've been asked to play the Robin role, but he dropped the ball miserably at it which is something that is worthy of criticism.

Re: Shaq, I mean it was the only non-prime Shaq finals trip. He was still a 20 PPG 1b option, but it's expected that he would have his worst finals at that age.

[Micku]

He developed a quality off-ball cutting game when LeBron was finally (rightfully) handed the keys in Miami as he should've been from the start, but yeah that shot... not good. The 2014 Finals he essentially showed how big of a negative impact a bad shooter who isn't at their best can really have on a team, especially when they're effectively grandfathered into big minutes.

With that said, LeBron dropped the ball in 2011 and was the biggest reason for that loss. It was bad. Wade-ball isn't necessarily conducive to GREAT play by teammates, but he's far from the only superstar with that distinction. LeBron never should've been asked to play the Robin role, but he dropped the ball miserably at it which is something that is worthy of criticism.

Re: Shaq, I mean it was the only non-prime Shaq finals trip. He was still a 20 PPG 1b option, but it's expected that he would have his worst finals at that age.

It's expected for him to do worse than his years with the lakers, but not worse than his level of play throughout the season. The series prior, he averaged 22 ppg on 65% against the Pistons. They were the top 5 defensive team that year, and had Ben Wallace, who was the DPOY.

Dallas was worse defensively, but Shaq couldn't score as much against them. I would have to rewatch the series to see why, but Wade took over. Wade took over in the playoffs in general, always the leading scoring and had great efficiency. But Shaq played below expectations. He played well throughout the playoffs despite the finals.

[ScalsFan21]

It's expected for him to do worse than his years with the lakers, but not worse than his level of play throughout the season. The series prior, he averaged 22 ppg on 65% against the Pistons. They were the top 5 defensive team that year, and had Ben Wallace, who was the DPOY.

Dallas was worse defensively, but Shaq couldn't score as much against them. I would have to rewatch the series to see why, but Wade took over. Wade took over in the playoffs in general, always the leading scoring and had great efficiency. But Shaq played below expectations. He played well throughout the playoffs despite the finals.

I mean eye test-wise, yeah it's been 10 years since we all saw the series but I just remember Wade taking over and the Heat requiring a lot less from Shaq as a result of that. Looking at the numbers now, he was 6 FGA away from being 4th on the team in shot attempts behind Walker (by far) and even White Chocolate. :lol I did not recall his 13 PPG and 14-48 performance from the FT line... way worse than I remembered.

[NumberSix]

The name of the culprit OF COURSE, is not Wade Jones.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

I mean eye test-wise, yeah it's been 10 years since we all saw the series but I just remember Wade taking over and the Heat requiring a lot less from Shaq as a result of that. Looking at the numbers now, he was 6 FGA away from being 4th on the team in shot attempts behind Walker (by far) and even White Chocolate. :lol I did not recall his 13 PPG and 14-48 performance from the FT line... way worse than I remembered.

Mavs gameplanned for Shaq, taking it out of his hands a lot. It freed up Wade. Avery thought Shaq was the key. And that worked for the first two games. Miami changed their style a little bit and the Mavs couldn't adjust.

[GrapeApe]

Mavs gameplanned for Shaq, taking it out of his hands a lot. It freed up Wade. Avery thought Shaq was the key. And that worked for the first two games. Miami changed their style a little bit and the Mavs couldn't adjust.

And this was a huge mistake on his part. Starting in the 2005 playoffs it became evident that the Heat would go as far as Wade took them. The Pistons knew it, and they were the only team to beat Miami in the playoffs those years. Granted, Wade's injury played a role in that victory, but they had some success when they let Shaq get his and focused on slowing down Wade. In 2006 Wade's FGA's agsinst Detroit were lower than in any other series, but he was insanely efficient and made smart decisions with the ball.