LeBron has always needed 2 Superstars to win, Kobe and Curry needed 0

[warriorfan]

LeBron needed two superstars to win

Kobe won back to back with 0 superstars

Curry won in 2015 with 0 superstars as well

[Springsteen]

...Shaq?

[RRR3]

Kemba Walker is a superstar by OP's logic

[CakeorDeath]

LeBron needed two superstars to win

Kobe won back to back with 0 superstars

Curry won in 2015 with 0 superstars as well

So 2016 Kevin Love was a superstar, but 2009/2010 Pau Gasol was not?

[GrapeApe]

2009 and 2010 Gasol was better than 2013 playoffs Wade and Bosh. Curry didn't even win FMVP for his title.

[Mikaiel]

LeBron needed two superstars.

Curry needed two injuries.

[warriorfan]

Kemba Walker is a superstar by OP's logic

And Kemba Walker is Kyrie Irving to your logic...

Can you take your trolling to another thread please? We are trying to discuss bball here.

[Kblaze8855]

Even ignoring that your topic is a joke when the premise is that guys playing like role players are superstars because they used to play like it and are therefore more substantial than mere all stars who at the time...outplayed the supposed superstars....

The same topic is literally the one next to this one on the first page. I realize Lebron winning again...bugs some...but you dont need to keep making stupid topics on it. And if you must...if you really reeeeeeeeeeeally must...get a stupid topic out?

Make a new stupid topic.

[warriorfan]

So 2016 Kevin Love was a superstar, but 2009/2010 Pau Gasol was not?

Pau Gasol has NEVER been a superstar.

Kevin Love was a superstar in 2014, he continued to have superstar potential in 2015 and 2016, but his production was limited through LeBron ball. Kevin Love did not stop being a superstar however.

[warriorfan]

Even ignoring that your topic is a joke when the premise is that guys playing like role players are superstars because they used to play like it and are therefore more substantial than mere all stars who at the time...outplayed the supposed superstars....

The same topic is literally the one next to this one on the first page. I realize Lebron winning again...bugs some...but you dont need to keep making stupid topics on it. And if you must...if you really reeeeeeeeeeeally must...get a stupid topic out?

Make a new stupid topic.

Let's clarify something here

Kevin Love plays like a Superstar in 2014

In 2015 Kevin Love joins LeBron and his effectiveness is reduced

So did Kevin Love just fall off a cliff in 2015 or did it have something to do with playing with LeBron? Does Love having his statistical output lowered make it so that he is still not a superstar talent?

[RRR3]

And Kemba Walker is Kyrie Irving to your logic...

Can you take your trolling to another thread please? We are trying to discuss bball here.
Kyrie is clearly better than Kemba, you moron. I said Kemba and 2014 Kyrie put up nearly identical stats. That's a goddamn fact, you can't twist that one :lol



I could easily turn your own BS around on you and claim that Kyrie wasn't a superstar (he still isn't but I'm guessing he will become one next year or the year after) until LeBron mentored him.

[Young X]

Explain why Irving and Love are superstars but not Green and Thompson.

[Ai2death]

LeBron needed two superstars to win

Kobe won back to back with 0 superstars

Curry won in 2015 with 0 superstars as well

Oh... you talking about the FMVP Curry?

[warriorfan]

Kyrie is clearly better than Kemba, you moron. I said Kemba and 2014 Kyrie put up nearly identical stats. That's a goddamn fact, you can't twist that one :lol



I could easily turn your own BS around on you and claim that Kyrie wasn't a superstar (he still isn't but I'm guessing he will become one next year or the year after) until LeBron mentored him.

Kyrie Irving was only 21 years old in 2014..

23 year old players are a lot better than 21 year old players

Kevin Love was 25 years old in 2014 and entering his prime

Kevin Love was 27 years old in 2016 and in his mid prime

Could you please stop turning this into some sort of troll thread? Thanks.

[RRR3]

Kyrie Irving was only 21 years old in 2014..

23 year old players are a lot better than 21 year old players

Kevin Love was 25 years old in 2014 and entering his prime

Kevin Love was 27 years old in 2016 and in his mid prime

Could you please stop turning this into some sort of troll thread? Thanks.
I'm not using Love for this argument, because he did in fact put up superstar numbers. Whether or not he was a superstar is debatable, but he at least has stats to make that argument. I don't care how old Kyrie was, that's irrelevant as to whether he was a superstar or not. You don't get bonus points for being younger.

[Sarcastic]

Kemba Walker getting dissed in this thread. He's actually not that far off from Kyrie.

[Kblaze8855]

What you used to be...what you might be eventually...what you could do "If" and so on....doesnt win games. Kevin Love had 34 total points over the final 6 games of the finals and only one game with more than 5 rebounds. Dont talk to me about him being a superstar years ago as if it has anything to do with his contribution. Kevin Love could be a lot of things. But he is what he is. And again...if you must discuss it...doing it in the existing topic.

[warriorfan]

I'm not using Love for this argument, because he did in fact put up superstar numbers. Whether or not he was a superstar is debatable, but he at least has stats to make that argument. I don't care how old Kyrie was, that's irrelevant as to whether he was a superstar or not. You don't get bonus points for being younger.

You are bringing up 2014 Kyrie stats into this for some reason when that is not reflective of his time playing now

2014 he was 21 years old...well before his prime

Kyrie is a whole new player than he was in 2016 compared to 2014 because the jump in play from age 21 to 23 is large

The jump is far less dramatic from age 25 to 27 as used in the Kevin Love example, that is when players are already well into their prime