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west_tip
07-14-2016, 05:57 PM
Apparently a truck has ploughed into a bunch of people celebrating Bastille Day in Nice. Reports of dozens dead.

France has been going through hell recently.

NumberSix
07-14-2016, 05:59 PM
#NotAll #TooMany

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 06:01 PM
What religion was the truck driver?:confusedshrug:

senelcoolidge
07-14-2016, 06:02 PM
religion? Someone doesn't like Bastille day.

LJJ
07-14-2016, 06:02 PM
A massive truck ran over a crowd of people and the driver started shooting at people.

There are also reports of multiple hostage situations in the city. Another coordinated massacre in the name of Islam. Horrible.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 06:02 PM
SHIT. According to reddit, people came out of the truck and started shooting and exchanging gunfire with police:facepalm


RIP to the victims.

Europe is in genuine trouble.


Will the shills continue to defend Islam after this? "THE ONLY WAY TO COMBAT THIS ISLAMOPHOBIA IS TO LET IN MORE UNVETTED IMMIGRANTS!"

Then you have all the shills on ISH who are going to be attacking us for spreading "hate" and "Islamophobia" by discussing the massacre of innocent civilians in France who were killed for no reason while celebrating a national holiday.


I'm so sick of this Islamist terrorist horseshit. When is someone going to do something to put an end to it?

Nash
07-14-2016, 06:07 PM
SHIT. According to reddit, people came out of the truck and started shooting and exchanging gunfire with police:facepalm


RIP to the victims.

Europe is in genuine trouble.


Will the shills continue to defend Islam after this? "THE ONLY WAY TO COMBAT THIS ISLAMOPHOBIA IS TO LET IN MORE UNVETTED IMMIGRANTS!"

Then you have all the shills on ISH who are going to be attacking us for spreading "hate" and "Islamophobia" by discussing the massacre of innocent civilians in France who were killed for no reason while celebrating a national holiday.


I'm so sick of this Islamist terrorist horseshit. When is someone going to do something to put an end to it?
Didn't these guys do this shit in a muslim country(iraq) last week?

Levity
07-14-2016, 06:09 PM
at first glance, i thought you meant "bastile day attack. nice"

that just seemed sooo ISH. but im dumb.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 06:13 PM
Didn't these guys do this shit in a muslim country(iraq) last week?
It happens a lot in Muslim countries. Of course it is horrible when it happens there.


But it is especially horrible that many of the "Syrian refugees" seem to have brought this terrorist tradition with them in to Europe, a continent that previously did not suffer from Islamic terrorism at this level of scale and regularity.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 06:36 PM
Shit. I just heard on BBC that as many as 60 have been killed.


Does anyone remember when Obama called ISIS a "JV team"?

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 06:47 PM
NSFW video of the scene after the attacks ended. WARNING-disturbing video:

https://twitter.com/Daradol1/status/753713558849019910


This is what Islamism looks like. Merkel and the EU are responsible for this bullshit.

ISHGoat
07-14-2016, 07:00 PM
NSFW video of the scene after the attacks ended. WARNING-disturbing video:

https://twitter.com/Daradol1/status/753713558849019910


This is what Islamism looks like. Merkel and the EU are responsible for this bullshit.

Holy chit. Bodies everywhere.

LikeABosh
07-14-2016, 07:02 PM
73 reported dead now...

Bourne
07-14-2016, 07:05 PM
Nick Young - how do we know they are muslim? How do we know it was jihad? the CNN article didn't elaborate on it

NumberSix
07-14-2016, 07:07 PM
Nick Young - how do we know they are muslim? How do we know it was jihad? the CNN article didn't elaborate on it
Yeah, maybe it was pissed off scientologists.

Akrazotile
07-14-2016, 07:08 PM
Waiting for a timely Hillary tweet about how the western world needs to do a better job LISTENING to what Islam is trying to tell us :facepalm

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 07:10 PM
Nick Young - how do we know they are muslim? How do we know it was jihad? the CNN article didn't elaborate on it
We don't yet. You're correct, it is wrong of us to say this was Muslim terrorists when no information is released yet. I am prematurely jumping to conclusions that possibly are false.



There are rumors of ongoing hostage situation in two clubs on the promenade. Hopefully these are only rumors.

A lady on BBC is talking about this now. I hope it isn't true.

Dresta
07-14-2016, 07:11 PM
NSFW video of the scene after the attacks ended. WARNING-disturbing video:

https://twitter.com/Daradol1/status/753713558849019910


This is what Islamism looks like. Merkel and the EU are responsible for this bullshit.
**** me, that's going to be a high body count...

I can't help but be glad that the UK isn't in the Schengen zone, because with as big a target as London is, it's almost certain there would have been a serious attack in London by now if we were not an island nation. Still amazed how willing Brits have been to throw away that natural advantage.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 07:12 PM
**** me, that's going to be a high body count...

I can't help but be glad that the UK isn't in the Schengen zone, because with as big a target as London is, it's almost certain there would have been a serious attack in London by now if we were not an island nation. Still amazed how willing Brits have been to throw away that natural advantage.
Over half the Europeans in ISIS probably come from London, I doubt they want to attack their home town.

NumberSix
07-14-2016, 07:33 PM
We don't know if it was Muslims. It might have been racist white cops or the crusades.

west_tip
07-14-2016, 07:33 PM
NSFW video of the scene after the attacks ended. WARNING-disturbing video:

https://twitter.com/Daradol1/status/753713558849019910


This is what Islamism looks like. Merkel and the EU are responsible for this bullshit.

Jesus Christ.

That this is happening in France again makes me all the more infuriated. I've been there twice, Paris and Toulouse on separate occasions back in the 90's and had a great time.

It is of course a beautiful country with great food and culture and in Toulouse in particular the locals were very hospitable and very laid back. After the bar closed that we were drinking at the proprietor drove us back to our hotel of his own accord so that we wouldn't have to pay for a taxi.

Dresta
07-14-2016, 07:36 PM
There are more Frenchmen in IS than Brits.

And France only just announced (today) the end of their "State of Emergency" that came after the previous attack:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36791666

Dresta
07-14-2016, 07:40 PM
From BBC:


Truck was 'loaded with guns and grenades'
Posted at
19:31
Christian Estrosi, president of the region, has been quoted as saying the truck used in Nice was found loaded with guns and grenades.

Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet told BFM TV: "It's going to be a very high toll."

He said no hostages had been taken and the driver of the lorry had been "neutralised", adding that authorities were investigating if he acted alone.

UK2K
07-14-2016, 07:41 PM
73 dead. 100+ wounded.

highwhey
07-14-2016, 07:54 PM
73 reported dead now...
:facepalm

masonanddixon
07-14-2016, 08:19 PM
LOVE how the media terms it an 'alleged terrorist attack' in quotes.

But if a white male committed the act the media would be all over it it like a black kid on chicken and waffles.

Dresta
07-14-2016, 08:29 PM
LOVE how the media terms it an 'alleged terrorist attack' in quotes.

But if a white male committed the act the media would be all over it it like a black kid on chicken and waffles.
BBC Headline:

"A lorry strikes a crowd after Bastille Day celebrations in the French city of Nice, with reports of 70 dead in what officials describe as an 'attack'"

:facepalm

Well, no shit.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 08:30 PM
BBC Headline:

"A lorry strikes a crowd after Bastille Day celebrations in the French city of Nice, with reports of 70 dead in what officials describe as an 'attack'"

:facepalm

Well, no shit.
Why is everyone walking on eggshells? Why is everyone afraid to call terrorist attacks terrorist attacks when they happen?

What the hell is wrong with society today.

masonanddixon
07-14-2016, 08:32 PM
BBC Headline:

"A lorry strikes a crowd after Bastille Day celebrations in the French city of Nice, with reports of 70 dead in what officials describe as an 'attack'"

:facepalm

Well, no shit.

Shit is hilarious. And the grenades too.

Cartoon world we live in these days.

BasedTom
07-14-2016, 09:09 PM
Scum of the ****ing earth that did this

People should be outraged that their supposed leaders created this situation with their weakness

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 09:11 PM
Scum of the ****ing earth that did this

People should be outraged that their supposed leaders created this situation with their weakness
The invaders knocked on the door. The leaders opened the gates and happily let them in, and gave them free houses, clothing and food to make it easier for them.


That is how history is going to look back on Merkel's reign of commie madness.

Graviton
07-14-2016, 09:35 PM
Idk if true or not...


http://i64.tinypic.com/2lu8f3b.jpg

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 09:39 PM
If true, that's pretty scary. Dude converted and in only a short amount of time was driven and inspired to help mow down 70 people in a truck full of weapons and explosives.

Graviton
07-14-2016, 09:45 PM
If true, that's pretty scary. Dude converted and in only a short amount of time was driven and inspired to help mow down 70 people in a truck full of weapons and explosives.
Honestly all the attention they get thanks to the media is one of the issues.

Like 20 years ago you still had these psychos but nobody glorified their actions, now since all the human garbage has access to Twitter you see more and more of these spineless cowards that are so far gone they want to take down as many people as possible with them. They always receive some support from other crazies.

I feel like these kinda attacks will keep escalating until something major is done.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 09:48 PM
Footage of the truck before it speeds up (SFW)

https://twitter.com/tagesschau/status/753715252559306753

Akrazotile
07-14-2016, 09:52 PM
Honestly all the attention they get thanks to the media is one of the issues.

Like 20 years ago you still had these psychos but nobody glorified their actions, now since all the human garbage has access to Twitter you see more and more of these spineless cowards that are so far gone they want to take down as many people as possible with them. They always receive some support from other crazies.

I feel like these kinda attacks will keep escalating until something major is done.


I agree, and it's a very fine line that's hard to figure out what to do about. On the one hand, as citizens, you expect the media to give you the information about important events like this. It's what they're supposed to do. If they don't do it, it could have equally disastrous results for the public.

On the other hand, this makes radical groups MUCH more visible. If they don't have a presence on major news networks every other week, they'd basically have to reach out on their own through social media etc. and it'd be a lot easier to track them down that way. The news is basically free advertising for them on a regular basis.

Really fkked up situation. The solution is not going to be cuddly and kumbaya tho, that's for sure. So, liberals would probably rather have us just continue to be attacked and killed. Anything that isn't cuddly and kumbaya requires way too much testicular fortitude than hippies and homos can muster.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 09:55 PM
Honestly all the attention they get thanks to the media is one of the issues.

Like 20 years ago you still had these psychos but nobody glorified their actions, now since all the human garbage has access to Twitter you see more and more of these spineless cowards that are so far gone they want to take down as many people as possible with them. They always receive some support from other crazies.

I feel like these kinda attacks will keep escalating until something major is done.

No. The media is not causing people to become Islamist terrorists.
The media is not the root cause here.

Terrorist recruiters have an easier time finding people with the advent of the internet and social media.

ALSO-sorry I have lived in a Muslim nation, if you haven't you will never understand. You'll probably just assume what I am about to say is ignorant racism and I am just a bigoted Islamophobic white supremacist simpleton. Whatever, I don't care.

This culture of hate is indoctrinated in to people from a young age over there. Imams in Cairo are literally screaming "death to America, death to the Jews" all over the city, every time they preach, broadcast from the top of minarets. At first when I moved there as a young innocent naive American kid raised in USA my whole life, I thought the Imam's prayers, which I could hear from my bedroom, were just normal prayers like any other religion. Just like you, I assumed that Islam was just like Christianity. I projected all of my modern American values on to these people and assumed that their preachers were just like Christians, spreading peaceful messages of encouragement. Then as the months went by, I started to learn Arabic in school, and I started to realize nearly all they would ever talk about was hatred and violence and blaming Jews and Americans for everything.


Jehudi is a common school yard insult there. They celebrate the Yom Kippur war, where Israel kicked Egypt's ass, as a great victory for Egypt over Israel, it's their biggest national holiday and they have jets (given to them by America) fly over the cities in celebration. These people are taught to hate and see the West as an enemy from a young age. Do all Muslims in Muslim countries become indoctrinated like this? Of course not. But it's no surprise that a percentage of them do grow up to become hateful little shit terrorists.


Sorry people but these societies just do not operate under Western standards of logic and rationality. If we try to project ourselves on to these societies and assume they think the same way we do, all we are doing is opening ourselves up to more terrorist attacks.



No matter how many times it is repeated, Islam is not a religion of peace. Going back to the very beginning of its history, Islam was never a religion of peace. Saying that Islam is a religion of peace over and over again while doing nothing else is not going to stop ISIS and make Islamist terrorists go away and stop killing people all over the world.





Does this mean that a majority of Muslims are not peaceful, and want peaceful lives for themselves? No. Does this mean that a majority of Muslims support violence and terrorism? Of course not.

Does this mean that it is impossible to practice in Islam in a peaceful way? Of course not.

I lived in the Middle East. It is hell. It would be a very bad thing for the world if Western societies become more like the Middle East, and that's what every new terrorist attack and influx of "Syrian" refugees is leading to.

Watch what the media narrative will be within the next three days-"The only way to combat Islamophobia is to let in more Muslim immigrants. Muslims in the West are the true victims of the Bastille Day attacks"

JtotheIzzo
07-14-2016, 10:02 PM
No. The media is not causing people to become Islamist terrorists.
The media is not the root cause here.

Terrorist recruiters have an easier time finding people with the advent of the internet and social media.

ALSO-sorry I have lived in a Muslim nation, if you haven't you will never understand. You'll probably just assume what I am about to say is ignorant racism and I am just a bigoted Islamophobic white supremacist simpleton. Whatever, I don't care.

This culture of hate is indoctrinated in to people from a young age over there. Imams in Cairo are literally screaming "death to America, death to the Jews" all over the city, every time they preach, broadcast from the top of minarets. At first I thought the Imam's prayers, which I could hear from my bedroom, were just normal prayers like any other religion. Then I started to learn Arabic and I started to realize nearly all they would ever talk about was hatred and violence and blaming Jews and Americans for everything.


Jehudi is a common insult. These people are taught to hate and see the West as an enemy from a young age. Do all Muslims in Muslim countries become indoctrinated like this? Of course not. But it's no surprise that a percentage of them do grow up to become hateful little shit terrorists.


Sorry people but these societies just do not operate under Western standards of logic and rationality. If we try to project ourselves on to these societies and assume they think the same way we do, all we are doing is opening ourselves up to more terrorist attacks.


I lived in the Middle East. It is hell. It would be a very bad thing for the world if Western societies become more like the Middle East, and that's what every new terrorist attack and influx of "Syrian" refugees is leading to.

Watch what the media narrative will be within the next three days-"The only way to combat Islamophobia is to let in more Muslim immigrants. Muslims in the West are the true victims of the Bastille Day attacks"

Never been to the hardcore muslim countries but I have been to Islam-lite countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Kenya and Sri Lanka, so I cannot discuss the hardcore intelligently.

Question though, do you think that second generation Western Muslims are just as Islamic as the ones in the f*cked up Islamic countries or has Western culture helped them evolve towards a more sane view of the world? My Muslim friends in the West are embarrassed by what they see with the middle east.

Also do you think people like Saddamn Hussein (secular tyrants who crushed Islamic militants) were a positive thing for Western values in the long term?

Graviton
07-14-2016, 10:04 PM
I agree, and it's a very fine line that's hard to figure out what to do about. On the one hand, as citizens, you expect the media to give you the information about important events like this. It's what they're supposed to do. If they don't do it, it could have equally disastrous results for the public.

On the other hand, this makes radical groups MUCH more visible. If they don't have a presence on major news networks every other week, they'd basically have to reach out on their own through social media etc. and it'd be a lot easier to track them down that way. The news is basically free advertising for them on a regular basis.

Really fkked up situation. The solution is not going to be cuddly and kumbaya tho, that's for sure. So, liberals would probably rather have us just continue to be attacked and killed. Anything that isn't cuddly and kumbaya requires way too much testicular fortitude than hippies and homos can muster.

I am still wondering why the **** ISIS has Twitter. Shouldn't terrorist organizations be purged from all social media? And everyone that supports them as well, even if they are "trolls". Time to wipe out their whole internet presence.

This isn't about winning the current battle, that's already impossible. Too many brainwashed Muslims out there, and too many crazies trying to "guide" them. The goal should be to stop the influence of radical Islam, starting from social media. Cut off their voice. We got people being fired for saying some racist/sexist shit on the internet, but those ISIS supporters that cheer for all these deaths aren't punished?

senelcoolidge
07-14-2016, 10:05 PM
Maybe this tragedy will push France to leave the EU or make big changes. I mean how many attacks and deaths does it have to take before you say enough is enough.

JtotheIzzo
07-14-2016, 10:09 PM
Maybe this tragedy will push France to leave the EU or make big changes. I mean how many attacks and deaths does it have to take before you say enough is enough.

France is not heavily Muslim because of the EU, it is heavily Muslim because of its North Africa colonies, and its language and geographic convenience to those ex-colonies.

Trollsmasher
07-14-2016, 10:10 PM
If true, that's pretty scary. Dude converted and in only a short amount of time was driven and inspired to help mow down 70 people in a truck full of weapons and explosives.
converts are the worst

often the most zealous idiots who try to prove themselves to their new comrades

heck, we still have a centuries old saying about it here - "Turkish-made worse than a Turk"

ancient lessons and we still don't learn

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 10:12 PM
Never been to the hardcore muslim countries but I have been to Islam-lite countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Kenya and Sri Lanka, so I cannot discuss the hardcore intelligently.

Question though, do you think that second generation Western Muslims are just as Islamic as the ones in the f*cked up Islamic countries or has Western culture helped them evolve towards a more sane view of the world? My Muslim friends in the West are embarrassed by what they see with the middle east.

Also do you think people like Saddamn Hussein (secular tyrants who crushed Islamic militants) were a positive thing for Western values in the long term?
I try to not judge all people in groups. Some support radicalism. Majority hate it of course, or at least I hope they do. I will tell you anecdotally that one of Osama Bin Laden's nephews went to my high school. He would make lots of jokes about Al Quaeda and his uncle killing people and bombing Americans and everyone just thought it was funny. This was a rich kid raised in Europe who moved to Egypt when he was about 10, a genuine top 1%, acting like this, none of the teachers ever told him to shut up and other kids would laugh at his jokes.

Again, anecdotal, and he was 15 so hopefully he's matured, but that's the kind of shit attitude people have there.

In East London there are many pro-Islamist protests and groups. Of course there are many anti-Islamist Muslim groups too.

I can't say what the majority of Western Muslims think about this shit, I assume that most don't like it. All I can say is that where I live, and also at my old university, I saw both normal people and terrorist justifying psychos in probably an 80/20 ratio (80% normal people, 20% who have insane terrorist violence justifying views when pushed or questioned) That is just my anecdotal evidence of people in London.

Second generation Muslims in Europe are generally more pro-radical than their parents who are actually from those countries, from what I've seen and people I've met.

The polls of Muslim Europeans suggest there are more radicals out there than my rough anecdotal estimation of 20% crazies, maybe the polls are wrong? I don't know.

What I do know is the proportion of crazies is too high, whatever it is. Time for everyone to stop pretending that Islamism isn't a problem.

JtotheIzzo
07-14-2016, 10:16 PM
I try to not judge all people in groups. Some support radicalism. Majority hate it of course. I will tell you anecdotally that one of Osama Bin Laden's nephews went to my high school. He would make lots of jokes about Al Quaeda and his uncle killing people and bombing Americans and everyone just thought it was funny. This was a rich kid raised in Europe who moved to Egypt when he was about 10, a genuine top 1%, acting like this, none of the teachers ever told him to shut up and other kids would laugh at his jokes.

Again, anecdotal, and he was 15 so hopefully he's matured, but that's the kind of shit attitude people have there.

In East London there are many pro-Islamist protests and groups. Of course there are many anti-Islamist Muslim groups too.

I can't say what the majority of Western Muslims thing about this shit, I assume that most don't like it. All I can say is that where I live, and also at my old university, I saw both normal people and terrorist justifying psychos in probably an 80/20 ratio (80% normal people, 20% who have insane terrorist violence justifying views when pushed or questioned) That is just my anecdotal evidence of people in London.

Do you think that the 'PC pendulum swing' has gone as far in the PC direction as possible?

Do you see 'calling a space a spade' gaining steam and becoming mainstream as fatigue from these attacks settle in pushing the 'PC pendulum' back to the middle?

NumberSix
07-14-2016, 10:18 PM
France is not heavily Muslim because of the EU, it is heavily Muslim because of its North Africa colonies, and its language and geographic convenience to those ex-colonies.
France's problem is that it has dumb immigration policies.

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 10:19 PM
Do you think that the 'PC pendulum swing' has gone as far in the PC direction as possible?

Do you see 'calling a space a spade' gaining steam and becoming mainstream as fatigue from these attacks settle in pushing the 'PC pendulum' back to the middle?
No, it can definitely swing farther if people let it, we're definitely moving closer and closer to 1984 society, and since the year 2000 the positions and ideals taken up by Western conservatives and liberals have nearly completely switched sides. I find that part funny. Libs today are defending to the death shit that Libs 16 years ago were fighting against XD

Yes, already people are speaking out against the PC menace. It's just like the anti-Dungeons and Dragons craze in the 80s and the PC craze of the early 90s. PCism is just a fad based on emotion and ignores logic, and will not last the test of time. It is already on the way out, thank ****.

JtotheIzzo
07-14-2016, 10:24 PM
No, it can definitely swing farther if people let it, we're definitely moving closer and closer to 1984 society, and since the year 2000 the positions and ideals taken up by Western conservatives and liberals have nearly completely switched sides. I find that part funny. Libs today are defending to the death shit that Libs 16 years ago were fighting against XD

Yes, already people are speaking out against the PC menace. It's just like the anti-Dungeons and Dragons craze in the 80s and the PC craze of the early 90s. PCism is just a fad based on emotion and ignores logic, and will not last the test of time. It is already on the way out, thank ****.

It is out of control, I really cannot see it going any further.

I see more of this going forward:

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/ujjal-dosanjh-by-silencing-white-men-canada-cant-have-an-honest-debate-about-equality-race-and-culture

Nick Young
07-14-2016, 10:29 PM
It is out of control, I really cannot see it going any further.

I see more of this going forward:

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/ujjal-dosanjh-by-silencing-white-men-canada-cant-have-an-honest-debate-about-equality-race-and-culture
Maybe. It would be nice if everyone could just talk to each other and become friends, I agree.

The problem of radical Islamists in Europe is not just going to disappear though unless dramatic actions are taken against them. I don't know what those dramatic actions will be but honest talking is not going to do shit vs Islamist radical zealots and it's not going to prevent any of them from murdering people and committing more acts of terrorism. The longer people are afraid of speaking critically against Islamists and Islam in general, the more these terrorist cells will continue to fester.

Islam should not be treated as a holy grail religion. It is just like Scientology, Christianity, Catholocism, Bahai'ism and Mormonism. We live in the west and there are no blasphemy laws making it illegal to criticize and question religious doctrine. Why is it so horrible to criticize the religion responsible for all of these mass murders but perfectly acceptable to criticize and mock Mormonism and Christianity for example?

iamgine
07-14-2016, 10:54 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/450/154/820.jpeg

moongaze
07-14-2016, 11:55 PM
Damn, this is just sick. Humans are ****ed up. What the hell is wrong with human kind.

Lakers Legend#32
07-15-2016, 02:51 AM
Trump has said he would go to war over these attacks.
Where do you send the troops? Re-invade Iraq? Syria?
If this war is so important, would his kids go fight? :roll:

poido123
07-15-2016, 03:02 AM
Another major terrorist attack, another succession of inaction to Islam in the Western/European world.


Are the governments going to do anything to protect its citizens? Perhaps ban Islam?



No, we will just continue to say 'not all muslims' and continue on like nothing happened.


I really hope France does something drastic about this.


If it's unethical to uproot the people, then ban Islam and let them follow their cult to other countries that want to support it.

dude77
07-15-2016, 03:15 AM
Obama declared today's tragedy to be "Not a terrorist attack but rather a French Monster Truck Rally gone horribly wrong

..

poido123
07-15-2016, 03:19 AM
..



Has to be trolling :oldlol:

Nick Young
07-15-2016, 03:29 AM
Trump has said he would go to war over these attacks.
Where do you send the troops? Re-invade Iraq? Syria?
If this war is so important, would his kids go fight? :roll:
obviously you start by sending them to ISIS and wipe the organization out completely with extreme prejudice.

brownmamba00
07-15-2016, 06:30 AM
84+ dead 120 injured

rip to the victims another sad day in Europe

Dresta
07-15-2016, 09:50 AM
A French/Tunisian:



Local reports have named the attacker as 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel.

Mohamed Bouhlal belongs to a family who resides in Msakin near the city of Sousse, a Tunisian security source told BBC Arabic, on condition of anonymity.

Bouhlal’s parents are divorced and they live in France.

Mohamed used to frequently visit Tunisia, the source added, saying the last time was eight months ago, before he went back to France.

The 31-year-old, said to have been married with three children, was not known by the Tunisian authorities to have been involved in any terrorism activities on Tunisian soil.

However, he was known by to the authorities in connection with drugs and alcohol-related offences.

Earlier, the Tunisian government issued a statement condemning the attack "in the strongest possible terms".

"Tunisia stands by France in its fight against terrorism and supports any measure taken by the French government to protect its territory and the security of its citizens and visitors," the statement said.

Is the bolded ever not the case with these people?

I know Tunisia pretty well: most of the fanatics there are in the South, and Sousse is a cool city; you see fewer niqabs there than you do in London (until a few years ago, you didn't see any at all--tis definitely going in the wrong direction).

pauk
07-15-2016, 10:03 AM
wow...

pauk
07-15-2016, 10:23 AM
The man suspected of being behind the attack was a 31 year old French-Tunisians resident of Nice. He was known to the police for violent crimes and thefts.

Another psycho, good riddance, just to bad he had to take that many people with him. :facepalm

pauk
07-15-2016, 05:18 PM
Another major terrorist attack, another succession of inaction to Islam in the Western/European world.


Are the governments going to do anything to protect its citizens? Perhaps ban Islam?



No, we will just continue to say 'not all muslims' and continue on like nothing happened.


I really hope France does something drastic about this.


If it's unethical to uproot the people, then ban Islam and let them follow their cult to other countries that want to support it.

Ban real muslims (who follow the commandments, principles, pillars of an Abrahamic Religion, starting with at least "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER"), meaning most peaceful people on earth... but keep atheists/ agnostics (which most of the Christians are unfortunately) and criminals / wannabe muslim psychos... sounds like a fantastic solution... :applause:

ErhnamDjinn
07-15-2016, 05:38 PM
what a world we live in here

poido123
07-15-2016, 09:19 PM
Ban real muslims (who follow the commandments, principles, pillars of an Abrahamic Religion, starting with at least "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER"), meaning most peaceful people on earth... but keep atheists/ agnostics (which most of the Christians are unfortunately) and criminals / wannabe muslim psychos... sounds like a fantastic solution... :applause:



this isn't a matter of fair.


too many lives lost on home soil at the hands of islamic terrorism and it won't stop while there's a war on the middle east between the west and islamic extremism.

so we bomb the fck out of the middle east, yet we allow the enemy to migrate ti the west in the millions?


either stop bombing them, ban islam or do nothing and allow more terrorist attacks


you can't deport all muslims but you can ban the religion and they will be left with a choice whether to stay or go.

Cali Syndicate
07-15-2016, 11:42 PM
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57889cd9e4b0f4bc5946eac5?edition=uk

Easy to brainwash someone to do dirty work when they are mentally unstable.

Nick Young
07-15-2016, 11:44 PM
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57889cd9e4b0f4bc5946eac5?edition=uk

Easy to brainwash someone to do dirty work when they are mentally unstable.
Yes. One must ask the question why Islamists are targeting mentally unstable people and convincing them to commit violent acts of terrorism. This is a big problem.