Dylan Noble being shot by police video

[97 bulls]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

This is just another glaring example as to why the BlackLivesMatter movement exists. I applaud these officers for showing restraint and giving this man every opportunity to surrender before they finally shot him. I just wish black men were afford the same patience.

[ISHGoat]

You want to know why?

It's because Black people are more likely to be thuggish gun-wielding criminals.

[Dresta]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

This is just another glaring example as to why the BlackLivesMatter movement exists. I applaud these officers for showing restraint and giving this man every opportunity to surrender before they finally shot him. I just wish black men were afford the same patience.I've never made that claim. Don't put words in my mouth please.

[NumberSix]

OP is right. Black people never resist arrest, disobey police orders, reach when they're told not to, brandish guns in public or fight the police. Police like to shoot black people who are just standing there not doing anything.

[97 bulls]

I've never made that claim. Don't put words in my mouth please.
My mistake

[DonDadda59]

Why aren't all police departments required to have bodycams for their officers? Seems like a lot of trouble and civil strife would be easily solved that way. Can't possibly cost more than cleaning up the messes in Ferguson, Dallas, etc every few months.

I'm sure a big reason for the cops' caution and them not being trigger happy in this case has to do with them knowing their every move is being recorded live.

[97 bulls]

OP is right. Black people never resist arrest, disobey police orders, reach when they're told not to, brandish guns in public or fight the police. Police like to shoot black people who are just standing there not doing anything.
Nice job deflecting. At some point your motives have to come into question. Because I know I've told you it's about the patience police show white suspects. Vs the shoot first ask later mentality when blacks are involved. What are you not getting about this?

[97 bulls]

Why aren't all police departments required to have bodycams for their officers? Seems like a lot of trouble and civil strife would be easily solved that way. Can't possibly cost more than cleaning up the messes in Ferguson, Dallas, etc every few months.

I'm sure a big reason for the cops' caution and them not being trigger happy in this case has to do with them knowing their every move is being recorded live.
And the suspect being white.

[NumberSix]

Lefties won't like this, but a big problem is the fact that police are unionized.

[97 bulls]

Oh and in case anyone is wondering. ......



The shooting prompted a protest in front of the Fresno County Jail on Wednesday by more than a hundred demonstrators, including Black Lives Matter, the activist group that has organized numerous protests in cities nationally in the wake of the police-involved killings of blacks. A larger demonstration took place on Saturday in Fresno, a city of 520,000 people.

[DonDadda59]

And the suspect being white.

Eh, maybe maybe not. But I would wager them knowing that they couldn't pull the 'he ran at me like a rhino with his head down' or 'he specifically said he was going to kill me, left no room for interpretation' angle knowing that the HD evidence would contradict them.

Even if this dude was Black and they lit him up before he even got out of the car... The tape don't lie. It would show what actually happened instead of relying on possibly self-serving hearsay.

[97 bulls]

Eh, maybe maybe not. But I would wager them knowing that they couldn't pull the 'he ran at me like a rhino with his head down' or 'he specifically said he was going to kill me, left no room for interpretation' angle knowing that the HD evidence would contradict them.

Even if this dude was Black and they lit him up before he even got out of the car... The tape don't lie. It would show what actually happened instead of relying on possibly self-serving hearsay.
True.

[TheMan]

The cops were on a roll...

Then Dallas happened :(

[NumberSix]

Nice job deflecting. At some point your motives have to come into question. Because I know I've told you it's about the patience police show white suspects. Vs the shoot first ask later mentality when blacks are involved. What are you not getting about this?
Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means?

Police don't have a "shoot first" mentality with blacks. Police have millions of interactions with blacks every year which results in about 250 deaths, the vast majority of that 250 being blatantly justified. Police killing blacks ISNT a common occurrence. If police had a "shoot first" mentality with blacks, there be millions of blacks shot by police every year. 0.0000035% of blacks getting shot isn't "shoot first". It's an incredibly rare event.

Your problem is that you simply don't understand the concept of judging each individual situation on its own merits. You legitimately believe that it's logical to think like "well, I've seen situations where X happened so it totally makes sense to assume X happens in all other situations too".

[masonanddixon]

OP, curious of what you think of this article. I know it derails your narrative by presenting facts and evidence, but curious what you think.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-36777582

[masonanddixon]

Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means?

Police don't have a "shoot first" mentality with blacks. Police have millions of interactions with blacks every year which results in about 250 deaths, the vast majority of that 250 being blatantly justified. Police killing blacks ISNT a common occurrence. If police had a "shoot first" mentality with blacks, there be millions of blacks shot by police every year. 0.0000035% of blacks getting shot isn't "shoot first". It's an incredibly rare event.

Your problem is that you simply don't understand the concept of judging each individual situation on its own merits. You legitimately believe that it's logical to think like "well, I've seen situations where X happened so it totally makes sense to assume X happens in all other situations too".

Yeah I know. It's amazing. Police shooting of blacks comprise probably less than 0.0003% of police stops but the media has managed to brainwash fools into thinking it is a common occurrence.

[Patrick Chewing]

You want to know why?

It's because Black people are more likely to be thuggish gun-wielding criminals.


Sadly, this is true. I trust White People, Asian People, Hispanic People more than I trust Black People.

[UK2K]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

This is just another glaring example as to why the BlackLivesMatter movement exists. I applaud these officers for showing restraint and giving this man every opportunity to surrender before they finally shot him. I just wish black men were afford the same patience.

So you're complaining about the number of times he was shot?

They showed restraint? What reason did they have to shoot him before they did? Because he reached behind his back? So what? Nobody said he had a gun, and you never saw it. They showed restraint because he wasn't running, they didn't know if he was armed (he wasn't), and because nobody else was around to be harmed. If they'd have shit him, people (you wouldn't cause he's white) would be calling for this officers head.

As far as I'm concered, they gave him plenty of chances to comply with lawful orders. He didn't, and he was shot twice so the threat was eliminated. They didn't continue shooting because they STILL didn't know if he was armed. When he continued reaching, they shot him again.

Good shoot IMO.

[97 bulls]

Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means?

Police don't have a "shoot first" mentality with blacks. Police have millions of interactions with blacks every year which results in about 250 deaths, the vast majority of that 250 being blatantly justified. Police killing blacks ISNT a common occurrence. If police had a "shoot first" mentality with blacks, there be millions of blacks shot by police every year. 0.0000035% of blacks getting shot isn't "shoot first". It's an incredibly rare event.

Your problem is that you simply don't understand the concept of judging each individual situation on its own merits. You legitimately believe that it's logical to think like "well, I've seen situations where X happened so it totally makes sense to assume X happens in all other situations too".
Lol. I'm cherry picking? Dude. There is NOOOOO case that I've seen where killing a suspect was the police first resort when it comes to white men. It NEVER HAPPENS. I just doesn't. I become more inflamed when I'm told that police do this with everyone. This just isn't the case. Again as has been shown with this guy Dylan Noble.

Cherry Picking would be me centering my whole argument around one particular situation. I'm tell you that in ALL situations where the police have been videology taped having to shoot a white suspect, some form of restraint is shown. Again ALL. It's been awhile now and I've continuously asked you to show me a case on video where the police shot a white suspect indiscriminantly. It does not happen. As once again this situation shows.

This is why we can't overcome this kasym between blacks and whites. Whites refuse to admit there is a problem. And that there is a difference in policing when it comes to blacks and whites. As video after video has shown.

[masonanddixon]

Lol. I'm cherry picking? Dude. There is NOOOOO case that I've seen where killing a suspect was the police first resort when it comes to white men. It NEVER HAPPENS. I just doesn't. I become more inflamed when I'm told that police do this with everyone. This just isn't the case. Again as has been shown with this guy Dylan Noble.

Cherry Picking would be me centering my whole argument around one particular situation. I'm tell you that in ALL situations where the police have been videology taped having to shoot a white suspect, some form of restraint is shown. Again ALL. It's been awhile now and I've continuously asked you to show me a case on video where the police shot a white suspect indiscriminantly. It does not happen. As once again this situation shows.

This is why we can't overcome this kasym between blacks and whites. Whites refuse to admit there is a problem. And that there is a difference in policing when it comes to blacks and whites. As video after video has shown.

Dude you're seriously mentally ill. From your fixation on blacks being killed worse than whites to your obsession with discrediting every white basketball player.

Get some fresh air or something

[97 bulls]

So you're complaining about the number of times he was shot?

They showed restraint? What reason did they have to shoot him before they did? Because he reached behind his back? So what? Nobody said he had a gun, and you never saw it. They showed restraint because he wasn't running, they didn't know if he was armed (he wasn't), and because nobody else was around to be harmed. If they'd have shit him, people (you wouldn't cause he's white) would be calling for this officers head.

As far as I'm concered, they gave him plenty of chances to comply with lawful orders. He didn't, and he was shot twice so the threat was eliminated. They didn't continue shooting because they STILL didn't know if he was armed. When he continued reaching, they shot him again.

Good shoot IMO.
They showed restraint in that they gave him the opportunity to surrender. And aren't you one of the main ones justifying the policing shooting people that reach for something? God you guys are such hypocrites.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

OP needs to stop posting on the internet and fill out a job application @ his local precinct. All this whining and moaning, but that wont change anything you feel is "wrong".

Then again you think EVERYONE is out to get the "black man", so there's that.

[97 bulls]

Dude you're seriously mentally ill. From your fixation on blacks being killed worse than whites to your obsession with discrediting every white basketball player.

Get some fresh air or something
You got me confused with someone else. I'm on record as saying I'd choose John Stockton over Magic Johnson.

And it's nit a fixation. It's me exposing a double standard that people like you refuse to acknowledge

[NumberSix]

They showed restraint in that they gave him the opportunity to surrender. And aren't you one of the main ones justifying the policing shooting people that reach for something? God you guys are such hypocrites.
Did the police show restraint on the black guy that they had to taze twice and he was still resisting then they finally shot him when he reached for the gun in his pocket? Lemme guess? That was another "shoot first" right?

[masonanddixon]

You got me confused with someone else. I'm on record as saying I'd choose John Stockton over Magic Johnson.

And it's nit a fixation. It's me exposing a double standard that people like you refuse to acknowledge

No I'm pretty sure you're the guy who enters any topic on Dirk and talks about how he's overrated and how [insert name of black player] is better, same shit you do with any other white player.

[97 bulls]

OP needs to stop posting on the internet and fill out a job application @ his local precinct. All this whining and moaning, but that wont change anything you feel is "wrong".

Then again you think EVERYONE is out to get the "black man", so there's that.
Again. Another person deflecting. Why can't you just say, "he has a point". People like you are partially liable for 5 officers being shot in Dallas

[DonDadda59]

You can get a go pro hero 4, the latest model that shoots (no pun intended) in 1080 HD or even 4K, for like $199.99 online. Can also get the battery pack that doubles the filming life for an extra $40. Getting one for each of Ferguson, MO's 54 officers would run a tab of about $11,000-$13,000.

The Ferguson riots cost St. Louis County $4.2 million.

What am I missing here? Seems like a reasonable, very cheap solution to the police/civilian interaction issue. Document every police stop in crisp HD or 4K resolution... Tape don't lie.

Why is this not a thing? :confusedshrug:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Again. Another person deflecting. Why can't you just say, "he has a point". People like you are partially liable for 5 officers being shot in Dallas

SMH. I bet you thought the shooter was a "martyr" too. You're a f*cking clown bro. :oldlol:

[masonanddixon]

Again. Another person deflecting. Why can't you just say, "he has a point". People like you are partially liable for 5 officers being shot in Dallas

Holy shit man. You honestly are deranged.

[masonanddixon]

You can get a go pro hero 4, the latest model that shoots (no pun intended) in 1080 HD or even 4K, for like $199.99 online. Can also get the battery pack that doubles the filming life for an extra $40. Getting one for each of Ferguson, MO's 54 officers would run a tab of about $11,000-$13,000.

The Ferguson riots cost St. Louis County $4.2 million.

What am I missing here? Seems like a reasonable, very cheap solution to the police/civilian interaction issue. Document every police stop in crisp HD or 4K resolution... Tape don't lie.

Why is this not a thing? :confusedshrug:

This should be a thing.

[97 bulls]

Do you understand what the phrase "cherry picking" means?

Police don't have a "shoot first" mentality with blacks. Police have millions of interactions with blacks every year which results in about 250 deaths, the vast majority of that 250 being blatantly justified. Police killing blacks ISNT a common occurrence. If police had a "shoot first" mentality with blacks, there be millions of blacks shot by police every year. 0.0000035% of blacks getting shot isn't "shoot first". It's an incredibly rare event.

Your problem is that you simply don't understand the concept of judging each individual situation on its own merits. You legitimately believe that it's logical to think like "well, I've seen situations where X happened so it totally makes sense to assume X happens in all other situations too".
Do you understand the concept of "cherry picking"? I'm not picking out one instance and centering my argument around it. How many of these conversations have we had? Far too many. And how many were "oops my bad" type shootings? Far too many. I take exception to this feeling that cops treat everyone the same. When video evidence shows otherwise.

[97 bulls]

You can get a go pro hero 4, the latest model that shoots (no pun intended) in 1080 HD or even 4K, for like $199.99 online. Can also get the battery pack that doubles the filming life for an extra $40. Getting one for each of Ferguson, MO's 54 officers would run a tab of about $11,000-$13,000.

The Ferguson riots cost St. Louis County $4.2 million.

What am I missing here? Seems like a reasonable, very cheap solution to the police/civilian interaction issue. Document every police stop in crisp HD or 4K resolution... Tape don't lie.

Why is this not a thing? :confusedshrug:
I wonder why?

[97 bulls]

Did the police show restraint on the black guy that they had to taze twice and he was still resisting then they finally shot him when he reached for the gun in his pocket? Lemme guess? That was another "shoot first" right?
Dude I've posted a video of a police officer totally giving a black man ample opportunity to surrender before funnily having to kill him. I never said that it's all police. I said it (questionable shootings) happens far too often to blacks and Latinos. And never to whites.

[plowking]

The only thing I got from that video, is how stupid some of the logic applied by the officers is after the man has been shot. I figure there was reason to shoot him since he was constantly reaching and not cooperating and it was getting to a point of danger...

But, how easy is it to put your hands up after you've been shot twice in the gut? I imagine the first thing you want to do is hold on, or curl up in the position you've been shot? They're obviously screaming at him to get his hands up once he has been shot, but, I mean, really? Did they have to keep shooting him?

[iamgine]

No one treats everyone the same. If you see a 98 years old grandma reaching for something, you're not gonna shoot her, might not even pull your pistol. But why, won't that be discrimination? Um yes, and discriminating is important survival tool. Everyone does it automatically, you can't help it. But we expect the police to be able to somehow be superhuman, and overcome one of human's most basic instinct.

Discriminating is okay, racism is not. Since racism is more about intent, it's hard to prove so we just lump it in with ALL discriminations. That's wrong.

[TheMan]

You got me confused with someone else. I'm on record as saying I'd choose John Stockton over Magic Johnson.

And it's nit a fixation. It's me exposing a double standard that people like you refuse to acknowledge
I really don't want to get into this white cops killing black guys debate but the bolded is just wrong :facepalm

Magic is the GOAT PG

[Akrazotile]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

This is just another glaring example as to why the BlackLivesMatter movement exists. I applaud these officers for showing restraint and giving this man every opportunity to surrender before they finally shot him. I just wish black men were afford the same patience.



One video is a great sample size.

I'm sure there's never been a white person prematurely killed by police. This video proves that it's never happened.

On the other hand, because it has been proven by at least one video to have happened to a black person at some point, that means it happens every time. Literally every time a black person is pulled over, they die. Makes you wonder how the prisons can remain so full of these folks, when every police interaction results in them dying.


But listen. You seem really, REALLY hung up on race. As in, paranoid. "White people are out to get black people, yadda yadda."

So, bro. Figure out which city in America has the highest black population, and MOVE THERE. Tell all your friends, to MOVE THERE. Get together, live your lives, and police each other. Move away from whitey. He is evil and he is out to get you (your words).

Just move away my dude. I don't even mean that in a malicious or condescending way. You don't seem like a mean spirited dude or anything. But race relations have got your mind rekt. You're having some issues. Just move to where you can feel comfortable, with your own people, until we figure out what the hell is going on. And encourage as many people as you can who feel the same as you to move with you.

[dude77]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

This is just another glaring example as to why the BlackLivesMatter movement exists. I applaud these officers for showing restraint and giving this man every opportunity to surrender before they finally shot him. I just wish black men were afford the same patience.

cops kill more whites than blacks


As of July 2016, the breakdown of the number of US Citizens killed by Police this year is, 238 White people killed, 123 Black people killed, 79 Hispanics, 69 other/or unknown race

they even beat them to death at times (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas)

they don't give a shit who you are when you're in a confrontation .. heck, they take down little old ladies ffs

[97 bulls]

If you see a 98 years old grandma reaching for something, you're not gonna shoot her, might not even pull your pistol.
I just had to post this......

[QUOTE]Kathryn Johnston was 92 when she was killed in a botched

[Akrazotile]

I just had to post this......



http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/24/atlanta.police/

It's also interesting to note that these officers planted drugs on her.



https://media.makeameme.org/created/sprinkle-some-crack.jpg

[97 bulls]

One video is a great sample size.

I'm sure there's never been a white person prematurely killed by police. This video proves that it's never happened.

On the other hand, because it has been proven by at least one video to have happened to a black person at some point, that means it happens every time. Literally every time a black person is pulled over, they die. Makes you wonder how the prisons can remain so full of these folks, when every police interaction results in them dying.


But listen. You seem really, REALLY hung up on race. As in, paranoid. "White people are out to get black people, yadda yadda."

So, bro. Figure out which city in America has the highest black population, and MOVE THERE. Tell all your friends, to MOVE THERE. Get together, live your lives, and police each other. Move away from whitey. He is evil and he is out to get you (your words).

Just move away my dude. I don't even mean that in a malicious or condescending way. You don't seem like a mean spirited dude or anything. But race relations have got your mind rekt. You're having some issues. Just move to where you can feel comfortable, with your own people, until we figure out what the hell is going on. And encourage as many people as you can who feel the same as you to move with you.
We had this conversation already. We tried this and racists whites burned it down. Several times.....

[NumberSix]

I just had to post this......



http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/24/atlanta.police/

It's also interesting to note that these officers planted drugs on her.
Yeah, bad cops exist. Nobody is claiming otherwise.

[DonDadda59]

https://media.makeameme.org/created/sprinkle-some-crack.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rofkX14qGUA/UB04M3NJ2wI/AAAAAAAACEk/w-BDMoI7sFU/s320/kanye-west-laugh.gif

[97 bulls]

Yeah, bad cops exist. Nobody is claiming otherwise.
I know you're not. I was jokingly serious when I posted that based on the post about a cop might treat an old lady.

[dude77]

idc, im strictly talking about after he's been shot cop asking for him to put his hands up..smh....***** im dying right now, the **** you mean do instructions

lol this is what I'm talking about .. the cop continuing giving him instructions after he's fatally wounded him .. once you're in a confrontation with police and you're wounded, you're done .. better hope it's not a serious injury because if it is you're going to die .. they're not gonna help you .. not until you're dead

[Pointguard]

Why aren't all police departments required to have bodycams for their officers? Seems like a lot of trouble and civil strife would be easily solved that way. Can't possibly cost more than cleaning up the messes in Ferguson, Dallas, etc every few months.

I'm sure a big reason for the cops' caution and them not being trigger happy in this case has to do with them knowing their every move is being recorded live.
So when they shot this guy in Walmart you think they didn't know about the camera's. Didn't even consider that there weren't more than two calls in a big Walmart?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/justice/walmart-shooting-john-crawford/

When they shot little boy in the park after two seconds they had a dash cam, right?

I think it does help but how much do you have to see to realize there are other things going on?

Would you bet your life on the dash cam. You try acting like the guy in OP.

[DonDadda59]

So when they shot this guy in Walmart you think they didn't know about the camera's. Didn't even consider that there weren't more than two calls in a big Walmart?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/justice/walmart-shooting-john-crawford/

When they shot little boy in the park after two seconds they had a dash cam, right?

I think it does help but how much do you have to see to realize there are other things going on?

Would you bet your life on the dash cam. You try acting like the guy in OP.

Why would I do that unless I was trying to commit suicide by cop? :confusedshrug:

[97 bulls]

So when they shot this guy in Walmart you think they didn't know about the camera's. Didn't even consider that there weren't more than two calls in a big Walmart?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/justice/walmart-shooting-john-crawford/

When they shot little boy in the park after two seconds they had a dash cam, right?

I think it does help but how much do you have to see to realize there are other things going on?

Would you bet your life on the dash cam. You try acting like the guy in OP.
And compare and contrast the difference in the whites getting killed or shot after an altercation with police.

The family in cottonwood that fought those cops in Walmart?

That guy in San Diego that repeatedly aimed his gun at the police.

The Ranchers in Portland.

That guy that the female officer killed after having to repeatedly plead with him to show his hands.

That man that's actually punching police in the restraunt.

That guy that the police continuously followed while asking him to show his hands.

How many examples do we have to see before we start to admit there is a double standard?

[longtime lurker]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Holy shit! What the **** is wrong with police in America. The guy was down after two shots and the police waited and shot him again. They did this twice! What is wrong with these psychos? The man is down, disarm and call him a god damn ambulance.



Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

Your first mistake is even thinking that you can reason with them. Their racial bias prevents them from admitting what's right in their face. The police were patient as hell giving him multiple opportunities to comply. Now let's see if the media brings up his past to record or traffic stops to justify his death? I doubt it.

[longtime lurker]

Oh and in case anyone is wondering. ......

Oh I wonder why AllLivesMatter wasn't protesting? :rolleyes:

Another interesting tidbit from the protest:

[QUOTE] According to the New York Daily News, some people chanted, [B]

[NumberSix]

Holy shit! What the **** is wrong with police in America. The guy was down after two shots and the police waited and shot him again. They did this twice! What is wrong with these psychos? The man is down, disarm and call him a god damn ambulance.
You seem to misunderstand. 97 Bulls is arguing that all the police's actions here were entirely appropriate.

He says there isn't a single instance of cops inappropriately shooting a white person (not hyperbole, that's his real position). I brought up this case of the cops shooting this white kid who was laying on the ground so he made this thread to counter that and argue that in this case all of the police's actions were perfectly appropriate... in order to maintain his "there's not a single case of cops inappropriately shooting a white person" narrative.

This isn't the first time I've done this dance with him. I've also showed him a video of an unarmed white guy who was walking away from a cop who the cop then tazed and while he was lying face down on the ground already being tazed a cop shot him IN THE BACK, waited about 15 seconds and then shot him in the back again while he was being tased. 97 Bulls argued that this was a totally justified use of force therefore preserving his "you can't show me a single case of police brutality against a white person" stupidity.

[iamgine]

I just had to post this......



http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/24/atlanta.police/

It's also interesting to note that these officers planted drugs on her.
Just because it happened once doesnt change the point.

[97 bulls]

You seem to misunderstand. 97 Bulls is arguing that all the police's actions here were entirely appropriate.

He says there isn't a single instance of cops inappropriately shooting a white person (not hyperbole, that's his real position). I brought up this case of the cops shooting this white kid who was laying on the ground so he made this thread to counter that and argue that in this case all of the police's actions were perfectly appropriate... in order to maintain his "there's not a single case of cops inappropriately shooting a white person" narrative.

This isn't the first time I've done this dance with him. I've also showed him a video of an unarmed white guy who was walking away from a cop who the cop then tazed and while he was lying face down on the ground already being tazed a cop shot him IN THE BACK, waited about 15 seconds and then shot him in the back again while he was being tased. 97 Bulls argued that this was a totally justified use of force therefore preserving his "you can't show me a single case of police brutality against a white person" stupidity.
Show me this video.

As far as the rest of your drivel.....you're just not getting it. Your side makes the claim that police handle everyone in basically the same fashion. And that anything otherwise is an anomaly. That what we see from police is proper and expected. The officers have no choice. So I said, show me a video where police shoot a white man in the same fashion they do blacks. Without any kind of negotiations. Just pull up and shoot. Like Tamir Rice, or the guy in Walmart. They gave Noble every opportunity to stand down. As far as shooting him after he's down. Yes. I feel it may not have not have been warranted. But again, these are your rules were going by.

[97 bulls]

Just because it happened once doesnt change the point.
Lol. How many times does the police have to falsely raid the home of a 92 year old women, shoot up the house 39 times including shooting her 5 times, and then plant cocaine and Marijuana on her?

[NumberSix]

Show me this video.

As far as the rest of your drivel.....you're just not getting it. Your side makes the claim that police handle everyone in basically the same fashion.
I'm not a "side". I only represent myself.

And I don't claim that the police treat everyone the same. The way people are treated varies from each individual cop. You're too focused on grouping people together into one uniform monolith.

I've told you countless times that most police shootings are justified. MOST. meaning that obviously, some aren't. And I'm sure some have been motivated by racial bias. Your problem is that you take what A cop does and turn it into "this is what THE police do in general". It's dumb.

[Pointguard]

Just because it happened once doesnt change the point.

after you said

No one treats everyone the same. If you see a 98 years old grandma reaching for something, you're not gonna shoot her, might not even pull your pistol. But why, won't that be discrimination?
You picked something out that you thought would be crazy ridiculous.
He pulls up an article where a 92 year old lady is shot and killed with drugs being later planted on her and now are acting like you don't see how crazy things are. Its hilarious.


He says there isn't a single instance of cops inappropriately shooting a white person (not hyperbole, that's his real position). I brought up this case of the cops shooting this white kid who was laying on the ground so he made this thread to counter that and argue that in this case all of the police's actions were perfectly appropriate... in order to maintain his "there's not a single case of cops inappropriately shooting a white person" narrative.

I notice when he shows eight or nine examples, you guys are totally unable to handle it. Will deny it to the end. He has to go extreme with you guys.

[97 bulls]

Thus is the situation Six is referencing.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-cops-high-five-tasing-psychotic-man-death-video-article-1.2644038

This is a tidbit from the report

Sherman initially resists cops’ attempts to arrest him and repeatedly grabs their Taser guns, according to the chilling video.

So once again. This is not like Rice or that guy in Walmart (I have to look up his name). He resisted. Even repeatedly tried to grab their tasers. And again. Going by the rules set here, once a man resists, all bets are off. Well, they didn't shoot him.

Again for emphasis, I have never said that police brutality doesn't happen to white people. I said the restraint, the patience, the will to allow some of these men (again even with guns aimed at them ) isn't the same for blacks.


How many times have we heard a white man say these words "if you aim a gun at a cop, he's gonna shoot you". And how many times have we seen white guys aim their guns at cops and walk away from it?

[Bankaii]

Quite a bit of deflection ITT.
Whtie people get special treatment, what's new?

[UK2K]

They showed restraint in that they gave him the opportunity to surrender. And aren't you one of the main ones justifying the policing shooting people that reach for something? God you guys are such hypocrites.
Reaching for something?

No. Reaching for a weapon which your child molester martyr had. The officers knew he had it when they arrived.

They didn't know if this guy had a gun. They were already trained in on him. Even if he did reach back and pull a gun (that he didn't have) out, he couldn't draw faster than they could pull the trigger so...

Context, kid. I told you ages ago a cops job isn't black and white. You still seem to be struggling with that concept.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-mistake-unarmed-man-hand/

Another unarmed white dude... shot within seconds of getting out of his car. Where's the outrage? Where's the protests?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That goes for whites as well as your black heroes.

[UK2K]

Show me this video.

As far as the rest of your drivel.....you're just not getting it. Your side makes the claim that police handle everyone in basically the same fashion. And that anything otherwise is an anomaly. That what we see from police is proper and expected. The officers have no choice. So I said, show me a video where police shoot a white man in the same fashion they do blacks. Without any kind of negotiations. Just pull up and shoot. Like Tamir Rice, or the guy in Walmart. They gave Noble every opportunity to stand down. As far as shooting him after he's down. Yes. I feel it may not have not have been warranted. But again, these are your rules were going by.
Nope. They dont.

When they show up on a scene to interact with someone reported to have a gun, they behave differently then if they show up at Grandma's house to chase the kids out of her backyard.

They shot him twice. He was still reaching. They shot him again. They very clearly stated if you reach again, you're going to get shot. He reached. He got shot. He was warned.

[ALBballer]

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhU5qVMfsTc4782nCC


This is the video of Dylan Noble. A white man who was killed by police during a traffic stop. I'm posting this video because I continue to preach the difference in policing when it comes to Blacks and Whites.

Noble is asked repeatedly to show his hands, he REPEATEDLY reaches behind his back as if he has a weapon, and police don't fire. And this is the problem that I have. Posters like NumberSix, Dresta, Y2K2, and a few more have made the claim that if a person resist's and reaches for something, police will shoot immediately. To kill nonetheless. Regardless of race. I believe i heard 3 shots. When its a black man they empty the clip (or magazine). That didn't happen in this case as it NEVER does when white suspects are involved.

This is just another glaring example as to why the BlackLivesMatter movement exists. I applaud these officers for showing restraint and giving this man every opportunity to surrender before they finally shot him. I just wish black men were afford the same patience.

Why are you making the assumption that all police officers are some homogenic group that think and act the same? Now if you showed the same police officer in similar circumstances giving different treatments to a white and black suspect then a case can be made. But the fact these police officers showed more restraint compared to other police officers isn't necessarily an example of "racism" but could be due to many factors. Not to mention there is confirmation bias at play since the majority of incidents between police officers and black people do not result in a police shooting. Watching a few cherry picked videos and making the assumption you made above is pretty much the prototypical example of confirmation bias.

Maybe these police officers are less trigger happy, have better training, did not feel threatened (there could be an argument made that bias plays a part) and so forth. There are many factors at play and yes some implicit biasism is part of the issue but it is not the only issue.

Basically there are better arguments to be made if you wanted to state police target disportionately black people.

[NumberSix]

Thus is the situation Six is referencing.
No, it isn't.

[97 bulls]

Reaching for something?

No. Reaching for a weapon which your child molester martyr had. The officers knew he had it when they arrived.

They didn't know if this guy had a gun. They were already trained in on him. Even if he did reach back and pull a gun (that he didn't have) out, he couldn't draw faster than they could pull the trigger so...

Context, kid. I told you ages ago a cops job isn't black and white. You still seem to be struggling with that concept.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-mistake-unarmed-man-hand/

Another unarmed white dude... shot within seconds of getting out of his car. Where's the outrage? Where's the protests?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That goes for whites as well as your black heroes.
There was a protest for Dylan Noble.

This situation is different. The man was running, the officer first began to chase him, then he turned his hand as if to aim. I don't see how anyone can show restraint in this situation. Unless you don't mind dying.

Nice try though.

And as far as him being a martyr, he does have a lengthy record. With regrads to his arrest for child molestation, it happened when he was 20, she was 14. And it was almost 20 years ago.

[97 bulls]

Why are you making the assumption that all police officers are some homogenic group that think and act the same? Now if you showed the same police officer in similar circumstances giving different treatments to a white and black suspect then a case can be made. But the fact these police officers showed more restraint compared to other police officers isn't necessarily an example of "racism" but could be due to many factors. Not to mention there is confirmation bias at play since the majority of incidents between police officers and black people do not result in a police shooting. Watching a few cherry picked videos and making the assumption you made above is pretty much the prototypical example of confirmation bias.

Maybe these police officers are less trigger happy, have better training, did not feel threatened (there could be an argument made that bias plays a part) and so forth. There are many factors at play and yes some implicit biasism is part of the issue but it is not the only issue.

Basically there are better arguments to be made if you wanted to state police target disportionately black people.
But how many times do we see these actions occurred before we come out and say that a pattern is being formed????? And mind you, this doesn't happen to white suspects. I'm net even including the times that haven't been caught on video.

[NumberSix]

But how many times do we see these actions occurred before we come out and say that a pattern is being formed????? And mind you, this doesn't happen to white suspects. I'm net even including the times that haven't been caught on video.
Over the last 3 or 4 years years, I've seen a grand total of about 3 instances of black people being shot when it wasn't reasonable to do so. The most notable being the South Carolina man who was shot multiple times in the back.

[97 bulls]

Over the last 3 or 4 years years, I've seen a grand total of about 3 instances of black people being shot when it wasn't reasonable to do so. The most notable being the South Carolina man who was shot multiple times in the back.
And we've NEVER seen them shoot a white man unreasonably. But we have seen them treat white men with kid gloves.

[NumberSix]

And we've NEVER seen them shoot a white man unreasonably. But we have seen them treat white men with kid gloves.
Lol. Sure buddy.

This is the video you previously said was a totally justified shooting. Feel free to tell us again how super justified this was.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uwvb8Ex1mwM

[97 bulls]

Lol. Sure buddy.

This is the video you previously said was a totally justified shooting. Feel free to tell us again how super justified this was.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uwvb8Ex1mwM
Dude. You guys are setting the ground rules here. And this shows how dishonest you are. Why show the last few seconds of that altercation when there is a longer version in which the officer repeatedly demands him to show his hands and he's reaching into his coat. I counted 3 times that the officer allowed him to try to reach into his jacket before she finally shot him. And that's not counting the times he probably did when the camera is not on him.

Again. These are your rules here. It's my understanding that if a suspect reaches into his jacket, waist, pocket, etc. Then the police should shoot him.

Personally, I don't see it this way if the officer already have a gun on him. But if this is the case, so be it. But be consistent. If police can give white assailants multiple chances to reach for stuff why can't they do the same for blacks?

[NumberSix]

Dude. You guys are setting the ground rules here. And this shows how dishonest you are. Why show the last few seconds of that altercation when there is a longer version in which the officer repeatedly demands him to show his hands and he's reaching into his coat. I counted 3 times that the officer allowed him to try to reach into his jacket before she finally shot him. And that's not counting the times he probably did when the camera is not on him.

Again. These are your rules here. It's my understanding that if a suspect reaches into his jacket, waist, pocket, etc. Then the police should shoot him.

Personally, I don't see it this way if the officer already have a gun on him. But if this is the case, so be it. But be consistent. If police can give white assailants multiple chances to reach for stuff why can't they do the same for blacks?
They gave that guy in Baton Rouge who they KNEW had a gun a lot of chances to stop resisting arrest. They tazed him twice and wrestled him to the ground. When the cop finally pulled his gun out and told him to stop fighting, the black dude reached for the gun in his pocket. The other cop screamed "GUN!" And then the cop shot him...

What's that a justified shooting? Was that enough chances?

[UK2K]

There was a protest for Dylan Noble.

This situation is different. The man was running, the officer first began to chase him, then he turned his hand as if to aim. I don't see how anyone can show restraint in this situation. Unless you don't mind dying.

Nice try though.

And as far as him being a martyr, he does have a lengthy record. With regrads to his arrest for child molestation, it happened when he was 20, she was 14. And it was almost 20 years ago.
He turned to aim? What was he aiming? Did you see a gun? So anyone turning, you just blast away?

The cops showed restraint because they didn't have a justifiable shoot. At least, not until it was clear beyond a reasonable doubt he had zero intention of surrendering. And as I pointed out, if my sights are zeroed in on your chest, I can pull a trigger faster than you can draw, so they weren't in any immediate danger.

Like I said, play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

[97 bulls]

They gave that guy in Baton Rouge who they KNEW had a gun a lot of chances to stop resisting arrest. They tazed him twice and wrestled him to the ground. When the cop finally pulled his gun out and told him to stop fighting, the black dude reached for the gun in his pocket. The other cop screamed "GUN!" And then the cop shot him...

What's that a justified shooting? Was that enough chances?
I don't see it like that. I see the cops pinning this man down and then shooting him for not cooperating. Then go into his pocket and pull the gun out.

[longtime lurker]

You seem to misunderstand. 97 Bulls is arguing that all the police's actions here were ent up this case of the cops shooting this white kid who was laying on the grotirely appropriate.

He says there isn't a single instance of cops inappropriately shooting a white person (not hyperbole, that's his real position). I broughund so he made this thread to counter that and argue that in this case all of the police's actions were perfectly appropriate... in order to maintain his "there's not a single case of cops inappropriately shooting a white person" narrative.

This isn't the first time I've done this dance with him. I've also showed him a video of an unarmed white guy who was walking away from a cop who the cop then tazed and while he was lying face down on the ground already being tazed a cop shot him IN THE BACK, waited about 15 seconds and then shot him in the back again while he was being tased. 97 Bulls argued that this was a totally justified use of force therefore preserving his "you can't show me a single case of police brutality against a white person" stupidity.

Lol nice attempt to try and flip positions. You act like I don't know your posting history. You are the type that always say if you resist arrest or don't comply with police demands you deserve to get shot. 97 Bulls' argument is that white people often get more leeway before police shoot them as opposed to black people. He posted this video as an example of a white guy who wasn't complying with police demands, had his hand behind his back, could have been carrying a weapon but police gave him ample opportunities to comply before they actually shot him. He's also posted numerous videos of white people pointing guns at police which hasn't resulted in them getting killed.