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Im Still Ballin
07-15-2016, 08:41 AM
Who?

CeltsGarlic
07-15-2016, 08:50 AM
Judging from girth of those stats I think I know

TheWinningFam
07-15-2016, 09:03 AM
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Jordan's 36/7/8 on 53% (91-93 Finals) is better because he scored 16 ppg more than his 2nd option, which means he faced far greater defensive attention - nonetheless, he had greater shooting and per possession efficiency and made all the game-winning plays.. Otoh, Lebron only scored 2 ppg more than his 2nd option, yet his shooting and per possession efficiency was lower, while his 2nd option made various game-winning plays.

Also, Lebron needed 7 games because he only averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers through 4 games, before coming back by averaging 36 ppg in the last 3 games.. If he'd averaged 36 ppg for the ENTIRE series like MJ did during 91-93 playoffs, he wouldn't need a 7th game.

A team can win even if they have less rebounds or assists than the opponent, but they can never win if they score less.. Scoring is the primary objective and #1 options control the scoring and flow more than anyone else (it's their job description), which is why Jordan's scoring and per possession efficiency advantage is far more important than Lebron's replaceable defensive rebounds against small ball lineups, or 1 more assist per game achieved via Westbrook-like time (http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1&PORound=4) of possession.
-In the 1991 finals it was pippen's 32 points and key paxton jumpers in game 5 that lead the bulls over the magic

-In 1992 jordan needed his bench to bail him out down 15, then frontrunning to finish, scoring 12 of his points in the finals 6 mins of game 6.

-In 1993 In what looked like was going to go to jordan's first game 7 series took a turn for the better as jordan was bailed out by a paxton miracle 3
And this was just from the FIRST EXPANSION ERA threepeat.

After coming back from a fail collusion filled baseball career to avoid the rockets jordan then..

Needed rodman's 19 rebounds 9 points and 5 assists to close out the seattle sonics series

In 96-Ordan was bailed out ONCE AGIAN by a steve kerr three

Otoh, ANYTIME Lebron was 48 mins from a series win or championship, HE ALWAYS WON AND WAS THE UNDISPUTED BEST PLAYER OF THE GAME.. ALSO IN EVERY CHAMPIONSHIP WIN EXCEPT 2013, HE SCORED A TRIPLE DOUBLE.. And even in the 2013 he still scored 37 points..
PTS/AST/REB
2012 Finals game 5 stat line - 26-11-13
2013 Finals game 7 stat line - 37-4-12
2016 Finals game 7 stat line - 27-11-11

3ball
07-15-2016, 09:29 AM
- In 1991 Finals it was pippen's 32 points and key paxton jumpers in game 5 that lead the bulls over the magic

- In 1992 Finals jordan needed his bench to bail him out down 15, then frontrunning to finish, scoring 12 of his points in the finals 6 mins of game 6.

- In 1993 Finals In what looked like was going to go to jordan's first game 7 series took a turn for the better as jordan was bailed out by a paxton miracle 3

Jordan faced far greater attention while achieving 36/7/8 during 91-93 Finals than Lebron faced while achieving 30/11/9, because Jordan scored 16 ppg more than his 2nd option, compared to 2 ppg for Lebron.

Despite the greater defensive attention, Jordan had superior shooting and per possession efficiency and made all the game-winning plays, whereas Lebron shot worse and turned the ball over twice as much, while Kyrie made various game-winning plays.





PTS/AST/REB
2013 Finals game 7 stat line - 37-4-12
2016 Finals game 7 stat line - 27-11-11


Lebron needed 7 games because he only averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers through 4 games, before coming back by averaging 36 ppg in the last 3 games.. If he'd averaged 36 ppg for the ENTIRE series like MJ did during 91-93 playoffs, he wouldn't need a 7th game.

Btw, a team can win with less rebounds or assists than the opponent, but they can never win if they score less.. And since #1 options control the scoring and game flow more than anyone else (it's their job description), Jordan's scoring and per possession efficiency advantage is far more important than Lebron's replaceable defensive rebounds against small ball lineups, or 1 more assist achieved via Westbrook-like time (http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1&PORound=4) of possession.
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Inferno
07-15-2016, 09:50 AM
Gotta love the moderating on this site.

VengefulAngel
07-15-2016, 09:55 AM
Gotta love the moderating on this site.

I would love to be the Mod of this site, 90 percent of the posters would be banned.