Pages of U.S. 9/11 report detailing possible Saudi ties made public

[dunksby]

The U.S. Congress on Friday released a long-classified section of the official report on the Sept. 11 attacks describing an array of potential links between some of the hijackers and officials in Saudi Arabia.

The 28 pages of the report on the 2002 investigation focus on potential Saudi government ties to the 2001 aircraft attacks on the United States, in which nearly 3,000 people died.

The report said the alleged links had not been independently verified.

The pages were released by the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee after years of wrangling in Washington between Congress and different administrations, Republicans and Democrats, and urging by families of those killed.

"The matter is now finished," Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told a news conference in Washington. Asked whether the report exonerated the kingdom, he replied: "Absolutely."

The release of the previously classified pages is unlikely to end the controversy over the role of Saudi Arabia, an important U.S. partner in the Middle East. Many U.S. officials who opposed their release had worried they would damage diplomatic relations.

Fifteen of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudi citizens.

"According to various FBI documents and CIA memorandum, some of the September 11 hijackers, while in the United States, apparently had contacts with individuals who may be connected to the Saudi Government," the report said, giving a catalog of alleged links.

They included reported contacts between Saudis in California, money possibly sent from the Saudi royal family to the hijackers and even a statement that a reported Saudi Interior Ministry official stayed at the same Virginia hotel as one hijacker in September 2001.

One section said Omar al-Bayoumi, said to be a Saudi intelligence officer, met with two hijackers at a public place after they arrived in San Diego. Citing Federal Bureau of Investigation files, it said his salary rose to $3,700 a month from $465 two months after two of the hijackers arrived in California.

Another described how two of the hijackers asked flight attendants technical questions during a trip in 1999 from Phoenix to Washington to attend a party at the Saudi embassy. One tried twice to enter the cockpit. The plane made an emergency landing and the FBI investigated, but did not prosecute.

The newly declassified pages also say a telephone number found in a telephone book of Abu Zubaydah, a Saudi-born al Qaeda operative captured in Pakistan, was for a Colorado corporation that managed the affairs of the residence of Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi ambassador to Washington.

Several members of Congress said they were pleased the pages had finally been released. Representative Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the intelligence panel, said he hoped the release would quiet rumors.

"The Intelligence Community and the 9/11 Commission, which followed the Joint Inquiry that produced these so-called 28 pages, investigated the questions they raised and was never able to find sufficient evidence to support them," he said.
Anything short of a direct quote by the Saudi king ordering the attack would be considered inadequate, that Saudi lobby :lol

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-usa-congress-idUSKCN0ZV1W0

[Nanners]

Here are some highlights from the report - TLDR saudis almost certainly did 9/11, and "bandar bush" was almost certainly involved.


A Saudi intelligence agent named Omar al-Bayoumi provided "substantial assistance" to the hijackers and met them inside of the Saudi consulate.

al-Bayoumi received payments from companies that had ties to bin Laden and al Qaeda.

Another alleged Saudi intelligence agent named Osama Bassman also gave direct aid to hijackers and worked with Bayoumi.

Bassman received money and possibly a fake passport from the Saudi government.

Bassman received assistance from the Saudi ambassador to the US.

Bassman was given a "significant amount of cash" a member of the Saudi Royal family in 2002.

Bassman is a known supporter of bin Laden, and has direct ties to other jihadist groups such as Eritrean Islamic Jihad.

An "accredited diplomat" named Shaykh al-Thumary was in contact with the hijackers. al-Thumary is a Shaykh at an anti-American mosque frequently attended by Saudi government employees at the consulate in Los Angeles.

A Saudi Interior Ministry official named Saleh Al Hussayen met with one of the hijackers in September, 2001.

One of Osama's half-brothers, a man named Abdullah Bin Laden, worked for the Saudi Embassy and has ties to Mohammad Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, two of the hijackers. Atta is considered to be the ringleader of the hijackers.

Saudi government money was funneled through a mosque in California known as the Ibn Taymiyyah Mosque. (Note that Ibn Taymiyyah is a 12th century Islamic scholar who is considered one of the forefathers of jihadist thought.) The FBI believes that money was laundered to organizations affiliated with Osama bin Laden.

A Saudi named [redacted] with close ties to the Royal Family was involved in figuring out how to infiltrate individuals into the US.

A Senior al Qaeda operative captured in Pakistan is linked to Prince Bandar, the contemporary Saudi Ambassador to the United States.

A member of the Saudi intelligence service conducted a "dry run" hijacking in 1999.

The CIA separately found that the Saudi Government was funding and aiding al Qaeda members in the United States.

The Saudi intelligence agent al-Bayoumi let the hijackers stay in his apartment and helped them find housing in the United States.

al-Bayoumi co-signed their lease and paid their rent and security deposit (reminder - Bayoumi was being paid by both Saudi Intelligence and bin Laden)

al Bayoumi threw a party for two of the hijackers, provided them with a translator, and helped them get into flight school.

al Bayoumi had "extensive ties" to the Saudi Government. He was frequently in contact with the Emir at the Saudi Ministry of Defense, received funding, had his college paid for by the government, and was paid a monthly salary by the Ministry of Defense through September 11.

al Bayoumi made over 100 phone calls to Saudi Government establishments including three frequent contacts at the Saudi Embassy in DC (remember that Ambassador Bandar had ties to that senior AQ operative in Pakistan?). He also had contacts at the Saudi consulate in London.

Two CIA agents testified that al Bayoumi was a Saudi Intelligence operative.

An FBI agent testified that Bayoumi was a Saudi Intelligence operative.

The FBI received "reliable reports" that Bayoumi was a Saudi intelligence operative and received significant sums of money from the Saudi government. The FBI knew him as a possible operative "well before" 9/11.

Bayoumi once recieved a $400,000 check from Saudi Arabia.

Bayoumi was the subject of a terrorism investigation between 1998-1999.

The FBI had noted Bayoumi's ties to AQ and other terrorist networks before 9/11.

The FBI investigation found that Bayoumi was a jihadist and attempted to turn young people into jihadists.

al Bayoumi's pay increased after the hijackers showed up in the US. He had previously recieved a monthly "allowances" pay of $475, it jumped to $3700 after the hijackers arrived **and were lowered again the same month that the hijackers left San Diego (where Bayoumi was based.)

Al Bayoumi's wife received $1,200 a month from the wife of the Saudi Ambassador.

After staying with Bayoumi, TWO OF THE HIJACKERS LIVED WITH AN FBI INFORMANT.

Bassman, al Bayoumi's fellow alleged Saudi agent friend, was also in touch with two hijackers.

Bassman met two of the hijackers through al Bayoumi.

Bassman lived directly across from two hijackers.

Bassman has been tied to [redacted] and [redacted] and [redacted] (presumably Saudi intelligence) since at least 1992.

Bassman’s wife received $2,000 a month through 2002 which totalled to over $70,000 from the wife of Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador. This money was allegedly provided for “nursing services” but she did not use any nursing services.

In 1998, Bassman received $15,000 directly from Saudi Ambassador Bandar, and his wife received an additional $10,000.

Bassman has been a known terrorist supporter since 1992, held a party for the Blind Shaykh, and was known to be a huge fan of bin Laden.

Abu Zubaida (senior al Qaeda operative in Pakistan) also had ties to one of Bandar’s bodyguards who is believed to be a member of [redacted], presumably the Saudi intelligence service.

Another number found to be linked to a senior al Qaeda operative in Pakistan belonged to someone linked to personal assistants to Bandar.

al-Thumairy (jihad imam with ties to Saudi government officials) is an accredited diplomat linked to two hijackers.

The Saudi Interior Ministry official named Saleh Al Hussayen who met with a hijacker a few days before 9/11 has family ties to other jihadists who are under investigation.

Several Saudi naval officers were in contact with 9/11 hijackers.

TWO OF THE HIJACKERS WERE “CLOSE FRIENDS” WITH FAHAD ABDULLAH SALEH BAKALA WHO WORKED AS A PILOT FOR THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AND PERSONALLY FLEW OSAMA BIN LADEN BETWEEN AFGHANISTAN AND SAUDI ARABIA.

Two of the hijackers are believed to have met with a man named Hamad Alotaibi who worked in the Saudi Embassy Military Division.

The 1999 “dry run” hijacking involved two Saudi members of the Saudi intelligence service.

One of the Saudi intelligence agents who conducted the dry run is linked to individuals who are the subject of counterrorism investigations.

One of the agents involved in the dry run has ties to people suspected of terrorist activity and is himself alleged to have been trained in Afghan terror camps.

[BoutPractice]

The best part:

"On the other hand, it is possible that further investigation of these allegations could reveal legitimate, and innocent, explanations for these associations"

If you've read the report, it's hilarious in context. I'm dying to hear what those "innocent" explanations could possibly be :D

There's always the Shaggy defense, of course. Or the Chewbacca.

That the media is reporting this story as "no smoking gun on Saudi involvement" is a disgrace. If you were investigating a crime, you wouldn't consider them proven guilty... but they'd certainly be the accused, with tons of circumstantial evidence pointing to them. So at the very least you'd have to put pressure on them to explain themselves, not back off.

The US invaded an entire country on much flimsier ground than what you've got here in this report, which is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Nanners]

This story has been kind of lost in the shuffle with the Turkey stuff today, but it should be a HUGE deal.

In my mind, this is pretty much definitive proof that 9/11 was not orchestrated by afghani cave dwelling jihadists, but saudi government officials.

This is a big deal. Hundreds of thousands of civilians have died due to our recent middle eastern wars and their chaotic aftermath. Bush officials like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz etc, these guys all knew that the Saudis did 9/11, they had access to all of this information all along, yet they decided to point the finger toward Iraq and Afghanistan.

Look how often the saudi diplomat "Bandar Bush" shows up in this report. We are really supposed to believe that the Bush admin had no idea what was going on?

[BoutPractice]

Yeah, Prince Bandar sure keeps popping up.

I've always seen him as something of a Shakespearean figure, a Iago-type villain who ventured into the real world... but this isn't fiction, and karma has yet to catch up to him. Doubt it'll ever happen, to be honest.

[iamgine]

What do you think would be the impact of the US launching a full scale invasion on Saudi Arabia instead of Afghanistan and Iraq back then?

[BoutPractice]

Here's the thing though: there was no strategic need to "invade" Saudi Arabia.

In many respects, Saudi Arabia was already a vassal state of the US. This isn't to say that the US was involved in 9/11 (most likely they were just blind to the duplicitousness of their ally), simply that destabilizing Saudi Arabia seemed very risky in terms of cost/benefit.

It's a bit like realizing your wife is cheating on you, but doing nothing because you don't see better options.

[Nanners]

In case anybody is not familiar with Bandar Bush

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan


Bandar bin Sultan (born 2 March 1949) is a member of the House of Saud and was Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States from 1983 to 2005. From 2005 to 29 January 2015 he served as secretary general of the National Security Council, and was director general of the Saudi Intelligence Agency from 2012 to 2014. On 1 July 2014 he was appointed King Abdullah's special envoy which lasted until 29 January 2015.

[iamgine]

Here's the thing though: there was no strategic need to "invade" Saudi Arabia.

In many respects, Saudi Arabia was already a vassal state of the US. This isn't to say that the US was involved in 9/11 (most likely they were just blind to the duplicitousness of their ally), simply that destabilizing Saudi Arabia seemed very risky in terms of cost/benefit.

It's a bit like realizing your wife is cheating on you, but doing nothing because you don't see better options.
I thought they have oil, lots of it?

[Dresta]

I thought they have oil, lots of it?
They also buy lots of weapons, and our governments are in tonnes of debt (and desperate to hide that fact, play it off as not being a problem).

Goes to show how indebtedness leaves you vulnerable and without the power to really act independently.

[~primetime~]

It looks to me like people that had TIES to Saudi officials and the highjackers knew. It's not like the Saudi Prime Minister knew.

[~primetime~]

This story has been kind of lost in the shuffle with the Turkey stuff today, but it should be a HUGE deal.

In my mind, this is pretty much definitive proof that 9/11 was not orchestrated by afghani cave dwelling jihadists, but saudi government officials.

This is a big deal. Hundreds of thousands of civilians have died due to our recent middle eastern wars and their chaotic aftermath. Bush officials like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz etc, these guys all knew that the Saudis did 9/11, they had access to all of this information all along, yet they decided to point the finger toward Iraq and Afghanistan.

Look how often the saudi diplomat "Bandar Bush" shows up in this report. We are really supposed to believe that the Bush admin had no idea what was going on?
They never pointed the finger at Iraq...that was all about "weapons of mass destruction"

Afghanistan sure...but that is where Bin Laden and lots of Al Qaeda were hiding out at the time.


Let me ask you, do you think Bush knew AHEAD of time?...if so, why do you think he wanted it to happen?...They didn't get rich off it (or richer)...you have to start making ties to Illuminati and devil worship for any of it to make sense, and even then it doesn't make sense, it's all preposterous.

[Nanners]

It looks to me like people that had TIES to Saudi officials and the highjackers knew. It's not like the Saudi Prime Minister knew.

obviously their prime minister had no idea, saudi arabia doesnt have a prime minister. its a monarchy (aka dictatorship)


They never pointed the finger at Iraq...that was all about "weapons of mass destruction"

Afghanistan sure...but that is where Bin Laden and lots of Al Qaeda were hiding out at the time.


nonsense. you really dont remember the media and govt constantly attempting to link 9/11 to iraq? maybe this will jog your memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda_link_allegations


Let me ask you, do you think Bush knew AHEAD of time?...if so, why do you think he wanted it to happen?...They didn't get rich off it (or richer)...you have to start making ties to Illuminati and devil worship for any of it to make sense, and even then it doesn't make sense, it's all preposterous.


i have no idea if bush knew the attacks were coming ahead of time, but you have to admit its a little suspicious that his administration had access to all of this evidence linking the saudis to 9/11, and decided to censor this information rather than investigating it further. saudi officials who were very close to the bush family had contact with the hijackers and supplied them with money and resources, thats not a conspiracy it is written in this very report.

[dunksby]

It looks to me like people that had TIES to Saudi officials and the highjackers knew. It's not like the Saudi Prime Minister knew.
Do you even know how Saudi Arabia is governed? And of course they knew, they had their intelligence agents helping hijackers find homes and enroll in a flight school for crying out loud. In one instance Saudi Arabia's ambassador directly paid one of those agents $25000 to help fund the efforts. Saudi intelligence agents lived across the street from the hijackers, what else do you need to derive your own conclusion? How about the hijackers meeting with Saudi Interior Ministry officials and Intelligence agency in public?

[Draz]

I'm a little uneducated on these topics. Someone ELI5 to me.

Saudi did 9/11 yes/no?

[dunksby]

I'm a little uneducated on these topics. Someone ELI5 to me.

Saudi did 9/11 yes/no?
Yes.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I just think it's crazy that I don't even care anymore.


I do care about the implications this may
have on the stock market,... but as far as 9/11 goes,...
ancient history to me.


If anything... I just wish you @ssholes would wake up to Sandy Hook.





Also... Russia may one day accuse the U.S. of being involved in 9/11
and until that day comes... I'm done with the subject.

I served my time in the movement.

http://www.newsfocus.org/images/911_truth_now_title.jpg

[~primetime~]

Do you even know how Saudi Arabia is governed? And of course they knew, they had their intelligence agents helping hijackers find homes and enroll in a flight school for crying out loud. In one instance Saudi Arabia's ambassador directly paid one of those agents $25000 to help fund the efforts. Saudi intelligence agents lived across the street from the hijackers, what else do you need to derive your own conclusion? How about the hijackers meeting with Saudi Interior Ministry officials and Intelligence agency in public?

So do you think the Saudi government, as a country, planned 9/11?

Or is it that just certain agents within the Saudi government were Muslims with ties to Al Qaeda?

There is a HUGE difference between the two.

[Duderonomy]

I just think it's crazy that I don't even care anymore.


I do care about the implications this may
have on the stock market,... but as far as 9/11 goes,...
ancient history to me.


If anything... I just wish you @ssholes would wake up to Sandy Hook.





Also... Russia may one day accuse the U.S. of being involved in 9/11
and until that day comes... I'm done with the subject.

I served my time in the movement.

http://www.newsfocus.org/images/911_truth_now_title.jpg
Don't worry only Don"the cuck" daddy is the only isher gullible enough to vote for Hilary. Western values will be preserved for 4 more years.