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VengefulAngel
07-16-2016, 08:14 AM
https://kingjamesgospel.com/2016/07/15/lebron-james-going-work-shooting-form/


Hopefully he fixes his shot the last two years it has been god damn ugly.

r15mohd
07-16-2016, 10:00 AM
https://kingjamesgospel.com/2016/07/15/lebron-james-going-work-shooting-form/


Hopefully he fixes his shot the last two years it has been god damn ugly.

He should have made the Cavs acquire Ray Allen - he helped lebron tremendously in Miami with his shot. Having him on the bench for the most part howeve he wily involved as a shooting coach would have been great for the Cavs - lebron specifically.

ArbitraryWater
07-16-2016, 10:03 AM
He should have made the Cavs acquire Ray Allen - he helped lebron tremendously in Miami with his shot. Having him on the bench for the most part howeve he wily involved as a shooting coach would have been great for the Cavs - lebron specifically.

Allen is a corpse and would have been detrimental as hell to the team.. stop.

AirBonner
07-16-2016, 10:03 AM
I love how he is top 2 despite his lack of shooting. LeBron with a shot=rip league

ScalsFan21
07-16-2016, 10:14 AM
I don't even want to THINK about what it would be like if this man could truly shoot the ball...

r15mohd
07-16-2016, 10:16 AM
Allen is a corpse and would have been detrimental as hell to the team.. stop.

He's not there for minutes - him being a player/trainer for the Cavs and shooting would be beneficial. His workout and shot techniques are up there with the best of players, ever, no reason not to sign him based on that alone to help someone like lebron thru the year with his jumoer

Mr Feeny
07-16-2016, 10:30 AM
That's huge. There's such a big difference between the times where his shot is on and the times it isn't.

When it's on, he's almost literally unstoppable. He's not just the best player on the planet those days, but the best player by an ENORMOUS landslide.

If he could work on his mechanics, this will do him and the Cavs good.
The points will come more easily of he doesn't have to bang inside with the bigs. Just Cao and keep taking shots.

3ball
07-16-2016, 10:34 AM
https://kingjamesgospel.com/2016/07/15/lebron-james-going-work-shooting-form/

Hopefully he fixes his shot the last two years it has been god damn ugly.



It's a lot more than 2 years - Lebron has been a horrible shooter for most of his career.. He only shoots 32% on 3-pointers for his playoff career, and his midrange percentage is really bad - it's below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389794&postcount=17).

Fortunately, good shooting isn't needed to be a top wing in today's game.. Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Wade, and Butler ALL (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) have poor 3-point and midrange efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's hands-off defense and spacing allows good athletes easier rim access.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had goat midrange shooting, better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31), which gives him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.. Jordan was a superathlete like they were, except he added goat midrange shooting.

Mr Feeny
07-16-2016, 10:36 AM
It's a lot more than 2 years - Lebron has been a horrible shooter for most of his career.. He only shoots 32% on 3-pointers for his playoff career, and his midrange percentage is really bad - it's below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389794&postcount=17).

Fortunately, good shooting isn't needed to be a top wing in today's game.. Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Wade, and Butler ALL (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) have poor 3-point and midrange efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's hands-off defense and spacing allows good athletes easier rim access.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had goat midrange shooting, better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31), which gives him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.. Jordan was a superathlete like they were, except he added goat midrange shooting.

I'm not quite sure.
He's a 34% 3 point shooter which is a LOT better than Kobe.
He's no Curry or Ray Allen or Chris Paul but he's really good from the outside I'd say. Atleast as a 3 point shooter, compared to the kobes of the world:lol

3ball
07-16-2016, 10:39 AM
Hopefully he fixes his shot the last two years it has been god damn ugly.




It's more than 2 years - Lebron only shoots 32% on 3-pointers for his playoff career, and his midrange is horrible - less than 40% for 10 of 13 seasons:


...NBA.COM'S STATS ON
"MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
..(all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)



.......................Midrange Efficiency .


Lebron.. 2004 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 33.2%.. 183/551
Lebron.. 2005 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.0%.. 217/602
Lebron.. 2006 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.4%.. 242/630
Lebron.. 2007 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 35.1%.. 204/581
Lebron.. 2008 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.4%.. 185/508
Lebron.. 2009 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.8%.. 193/525
Lebron.. 2010 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.8%.. 188/444
Lebron.. 2011 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 44.6%.. 217/487
Lebron.. 2012 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 42.3%.. 188/444
Lebron.. 2013 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 43.2%.. 174/403
Lebron.. 2014 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.5%.. 126/327
Lebron.. 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 37.0%.. 127/343
Lebron.. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 37.1%.. 96/259

M Jordan. 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 48.9%.. 588/1202
M Jordan. 1998 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 43.2%.. 476/1101



Lebron's midrange is horrible - less than 40% for 10 of 13 seasons and he only shoots 32% on 3-pointers for his playoff career.

Fortunately, good shooting isn't needed to be a top wing in today's game.. Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Wade, and Butler ALL (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) have poor 3-point and midrange efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's hands-off defense and spacing allows good athletes easier rim access.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had goat midrange shooting, better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31), which gives him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.. Jordan was a superathlete like they were, except he added goat midrange shooting.

SamuraiSWISH
07-16-2016, 11:32 AM
He's going to really need a quality, consistent mid range and long range shot next year to beat that cowardly Golden State Monstars Squad. Solid move getting in the gym to work on that now. Respect to LeBron.

3ball
07-16-2016, 11:36 AM
He's going to really need a quality, consistent mid range and long range shot next year to beat that cowardly Golden State Monstars Squad. Solid move getting in the gym to work on that now. Respect to LeBron.


You're giving Lebron props while calling the Warriors cowardly, but do you think Lebron's "decision" was any less cowardly?

His "decision" stacked the deck so much that everyone including himself thought he'd win "not 5.. not 6... not 7"...

Oh, how memories are so short, but Durant and Lebron are 2 peas in a pod - the best players in the league AND the faces of today's era of team-hopping and stacking teams.. It's fitting

tmacattack33
07-16-2016, 11:56 AM
You're giving Lebron props while calling the Warriors cowardly, but do you think Lebron's "decision" was any less cowardly?

His "decision" stacked the deck so much that everyone including himself thought he'd win "not 5.. not 6... not 7"...

Oh, how memories are so short, but Durant and Lebron are 2 peas in a pod - the best players in the league AND the faces of today's era of team-hopping and stacking teams.. It's fitting

Not even close.

Warriors without Durant = One Championship + 67 wins, One WCF Title + 73 wins

Heatles without Lebron = low seed in the East








Also, Bulls without MJ = 2nd round team in the East...which is better than the Heatles without Lebron. You mad?

TheWinningFam
07-16-2016, 12:00 PM
You're giving Lebron props while calling the Warriors cowardly, but do you think Lebron's "decision" was any less cowardly?

His "decision" stacked the deck so much that everyone including himself thought he'd win "not 5.. not 6... not 7"...

Oh, how memories are so short, but Durant and Lebron are 2 peas in a pod - the best players in the league AND the faces of today's era of team-hopping and stacking teams.. It's fitting
Jordan would be demarr derozan in todays game :facepalm

SamuraiSWISH
07-16-2016, 12:01 PM
Don't get me wrong, Bron was a coward for what he did in 2011. And he started this whole superstar team up super friends era.


You're giving Lebron props while calling the Warriors cowardly, but do you think Lebron's "decision" was any less cowardly?

His "decision" stacked the deck so much that everyone including himself thought he'd win "not 5.. not 6... not 7"...

Oh, how memories are so short, but Durant and Lebron are 2 peas in a pod - the best players in the league AND the faces of today's era of team-hopping and stacking teams.. It's fitting
LeBron's "decision" to leave his home town high and dry to go take his talents to South Beach to play with his buddy but 2nd best player in the league was cowardly. Yes. But he also went to a wasteland top heavy Miami team that only had washed up veterans.

KD's decision to literally live out the "can't beat them, join them" concept ... a team he had the chance to destroy and didn't. A team that was deepest in the league, was a play away from winning a championship, had already won a chip the season prior, concluded a 73 win season, and featured back to back MVP?

Yeah that's not cowardly. It's far worse. It's beta status bitch made. And hypocritical considering he spoke out against it as recent as 2011.

He's a cowardly bitch, and dumb. That or he's trying to really earn that "Servant" nick name when LeBron eventually has his way with him AGAIN in the Finals.

:oldlol:

G0ATbe
07-16-2016, 12:02 PM
Well into his 30s and still changing his shot regularly like a kid in high school:facepalm . He's never going to develop a consistent jumper.

J Shuttlesworth
07-16-2016, 12:38 PM
Well into his 30s and still changing his shot regularly like a kid in high school:facepalm . He's never going to develop a consistent jumper.
31 = well into 30s? :wtf: :biggums: Kobe fans :facepalm :facepalm

AirTupac
07-16-2016, 12:46 PM
LBJ has been reworking his shot for so long and hes gotten worse :roll:

3ball
07-16-2016, 04:09 PM
Don't get me wrong, Bron was a coward for what he did in 2011. And he started this whole superstar team up super friends era.


LeBron's "decision" to leave his home town high and dry to go take his talents to South Beach to play with his buddy but 2nd best player in the league was cowardly. Yes. But he also went to a wasteland top heavy Miami team that only had washed up veterans.



Factually incorrect - he teamed-up with 2 other guys with top 5 PER's, who outperformed him:



WADEUI 2011 PLAYOFFS:. 24.5 ppg.. 48.5 fg.. 57.0 ts.. 26.3 PER.. 0.216 ws/48
LEBRON 2011 PLAYOFFS:. 23.7 ppg.. 46.6 fg.. 56.3 ts.. 23.7 PER.. 0.198 ws/48


WADEUI 2011 FINALS:.: 26.5 ppg
BOSHUI 2011 FINALS:.: 18.5 ppg
LEBRON 2011 FINALS:. 17.8 ppg



If you make up another reality that is different from the facts, than your conclusions will be wrong






KD's decision to literally live out the "can't beat them, join them" concept ... a team he had the chance to destroy and didn't


Lebron started it - he couldn't win the East with his favored 1 seed, so he found a roster that had 2 extra top 5 PER's, who both outperformed him while he cost them a ring in 2011.





A team that was deepest in the league, was a play away from winning a championship, had already won a chip the season prior, concluded a 73 win season, and featured back to back MVP?


The team with the best regular season record and all the accolades frequently loses in the playoffs, so regular season accolades have always been a poor gauge of all-time greatness.





Yeah that's not cowardly. It's far worse. It's beta status bitch made. And hypocritical considering he spoke out against it as recent as 2011.


Lebron was the originator of bitchmade team-hopping, whereas Durant is just a copycat, which isn't as bad.

Durant is just doing something Lebron would do and has done.






when LeBron eventually has his way with him AGAIN in the Finals.

:oldlol:


Lebron won the 2016 Finals by one possession - that's how close it was.. The Warriors would've won if you replaced Curry with Durant, let alone have them both - so Lebron has no chance - the 1 possession went his way because Dray was suspended, among many other things..

Lebron averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers thru 4 games, which is why he needed to average 36 ppg for the last 3 games to come back.. But Jordan averaged 36/7/8 for the entire 91-93 Finals, so he didn't need a 7th game, and was therefore more dominant..

Jordan also scored 16 ppg more than his 2nd option compared to Lebron's 2 ppg, so he faced far greater defensive attention.. It's been well-documented that Lebron was barely doubled in the 2015 Finals, and it was not different this year.
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Hey Yo
07-16-2016, 04:21 PM
It's more than 2 years - Lebron only shoots 32% on 3-pointers for his playoff career, and his midrange is horrible - less than 40% for 10 of 13 seasons:


...NBA.COM'S STATS ON
"MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
..(all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)



.......................Midrange Efficiency .


Lebron.. 2004 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 33.2%.. 183/551
Lebron.. 2005 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.0%.. 217/602
Lebron.. 2006 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.4%.. 242/630
Lebron.. 2007 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 35.1%.. 204/581
Lebron.. 2008 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.4%.. 185/508
Lebron.. 2009 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.8%.. 193/525
Lebron.. 2010 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.8%.. 188/444
Lebron.. 2011 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 44.6%.. 217/487
Lebron.. 2012 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 42.3%.. 188/444
Lebron.. 2013 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 43.2%.. 174/403
Lebron.. 2014 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.5%.. 126/327
Lebron.. 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 37.0%.. 127/343
Lebron.. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 37.1%.. 96/259

M Jordan. 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 48.9%.. 588/1202
M Jordan. 1998 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 43.2%.. 476/1101



Lebron's midrange is horrible - less than 40% for 10 of 13 seasons and he only shoots 32% on 3-pointers for his playoff career.

Fortunately, good shooting isn't needed to be a top wing in today's game.. Lebron, Westbrook, Derozan, Wade, and Butler ALL (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) have poor 3-point and midrange efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's hands-off defense and spacing allows good athletes easier rim access.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had goat midrange shooting, better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31), which gives him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.. Jordan was a superathlete like they were, except he added goat midrange shooting.
NBA .com doesn't recognize "long two's" and considers them mid-range which is wrong.

True mid-range is known mostly as 12-17 feet and long 2's are 18 to just inside the 3pt line.

FashionIssues
07-16-2016, 04:31 PM
you cant just learn how to shoot on the way out

Hey Yo
07-16-2016, 05:06 PM
Factually incorrect - he teamed-up with 2 other guys with top 5 PER's, who outperformed him:
You can't use PER from the reg. season. It only matters at the end of the postseason.


WADEUI 2011 PLAYOFFS:. 24.5 ppg.. 48.5 fg.. 57.0 ts.. 26.3 PER.. 0.216 ws/48
LEBRON 2011 PLAYOFFS:. 23.7 ppg.. 46.6 fg.. 56.3 ts.. 23.7 PER.. 0.198 ws/48
James avg. more rebounds and assists than Wade


WADEUI 2011 FINALS:.: 26.5 ppg
BOSHUI 2011 FINALS:.: 18.5 ppg
LEBRON 2011 FINALS:. 17.8 ppg

Wade with 7TRB and 5.2AST
Bosh with 7.3TRB and 1AST
LeBron with 7.2TRB nd 7AST...plus add winning the postseason w/s total.

Yeah....Wade and Bosh outplayed James in the 2011 postseason....:facepalm

Smoke117
07-16-2016, 05:42 PM
I still think most of his shooting woes come from exhaustion...he hasn't exactly had much rest the last 6 years and he's by far, BY FAR played the most minutes of anyone his age.

tpols
07-16-2016, 05:54 PM
Lebron was the originator of bitchmade team-hopping, whereas Durant is just a copycat, which isn't as bad.

Durant is just doing something Lebron would do and has done.



3Ball layin down that ether :applause:

KiiiiNG
07-16-2016, 05:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, Bron was a coward for what he did in 2011. And he started this whole superstar team up super friends era.


LeBron's "decision" to leave his home town high and dry to go take his talents to South Beach to play with his buddy but 2nd best player in the league was cowardly. Yes. But he also went to a wasteland top heavy Miami team that only had washed up veterans.

KD's decision to literally live out the "can't beat them, join them" concept ... a team he had the chance to destroy and didn't. A team that was deepest in the league, was a play away from winning a championship, had already won a chip the season prior, concluded a 73 win season, and featured back to back MVP?

Yeah that's not cowardly. It's far worse. It's beta status bitch made. And hypocritical considering he spoke out against it as recent as 2011.

He's a cowardly bitch, and dumb. That or he's trying to really earn that "Servant" nick name when LeBron eventually has his way with him AGAIN in the Finals.

:oldlol:
Embarrassing.

This is why nobody takes you seriously "coach" :oldlol:

Im Still Ballin
07-16-2016, 07:08 PM
Embarrassing.

This is why nobody takes you seriously "coach" :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Keno
07-16-2016, 07:36 PM
lebron still working to improve his game 13 years in and he's already top 3 all time. god damn, goat work ethic.

Sarcastic
07-16-2016, 07:47 PM
He should honestly go to Olajuwon school, and learn real post moves. He'd be unstoppable with a real post game/foot work.

CuterThanRubio
07-16-2016, 08:05 PM
NBA .com doesn't recognize "long two's" and considers them mid-range which is wrong.

True mid-range is known mostly as 12-17 feet and long 2's are 18 to just inside the 3pt line.

It is concerning that we exposed this in a separate thread days ago and he is still insistent on copy/pasting false information without providing the proper context.

So insecure!

According to him 70% of all threes made in the NBA last year were completely uncontested as well, never trust a snake oil salesman@!

3ball
07-16-2016, 08:19 PM
According to him 70% of all threes made in the NBA last year were completely uncontested as well, never trust a snake oil salesman@!




Curry attempted 11.3 three-point attempts per game this season.. According to NBA.com, 5.2 of them were "open" (4-6 feet of room), and 2.7 were "very open" (6+ feet):


........................................0-2 ft (very tight).... 2-4 ft (tight)..... 4-6 ft (open).... 6+ ft (very open)

STEPH CURRY'S.
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME ............0.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season).................... 2.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................5.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................2.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) <-- nba.com

PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS .................0.4%................ 26.1%.............45.9%.............24.3%



Don't be surprised that most of Curry's 3-pointers are wide open - today's drive-and-kick offenses require 3-4 players standing behind the line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time.. Curry's 3-pointers are actually less open than the rest of the league - over 80% (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12316018#post12316018) of the league's 3-pointers are "open" or "very open", compared to Curry's aforementioned 70%.

Ultimately, today's teams use offensive schemes that maximize 3-point looks, so players shoot 3-pointers easier than ever before - specifically, driving and kicking for 3-pointers wasn't common or the staple of ANY team's offense until about 10 years ago.. Guys like Reggie Miller and Larry Bird had to run off screens for more of their 3-point looks - they didn't get to stand there and wait for kickouts as often as today's player.

But the MAIN takeaway from this data is that 2-pointers are more CONTESTED, so eras that shot more 2-pointers produced better players - this is why Shaq was 10th in MVP voting in 1996, compared to Kyle Lowry in 2016 - can you say "watered down"??

CuterThanRubio
07-16-2016, 08:33 PM
Curry attempted 11.3 three-point attempts per game this season.. According to NBA.com, 5.2 of them were "open" (4-6 feet of room), and 2.7 were "very open" (6+ feet):


........................................0-2 ft (very tight).... 2-4 ft (tight)..... 4-6 ft (open).... 6+ ft (very open)

STEPH CURRY'S.
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME ............0.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season).................... 2.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................5.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................2.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) <-- nba.com

PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS .................0.4%................ 26.1%.............45.9%.............24.3%



Don't be surprised that most of Curry's 3-pointers are wide open - today's drive-and-kick offenses require 3-4 players standing behind the line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time.. Curry's 3-pointers are actually less open than the rest of the league - over 80% (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12316018#post12316018) of the league's 3-pointers are "open" or "very open", compared to Curry's aforementioned 70%.

Ultimately, today's teams use offensive schemes that maximize 3-point looks, so players shoot 3-pointers easier than ever before - specifically, driving and kicking for 3-pointers wasn't common or the staple of ANY team's offense until about 10 years ago.. Guys like Reggie Miller and Larry Bird had to run off screens for more of their 3-point looks - they didn't get to stand there and wait for kickouts as often as today's player.

But the MAIN takeaway from this data is that 2-pointers are more CONTESTED, so eras that shot more 2-pointers produced better players - this is why Shaq was 10th in MVP voting in 1996, compared to Kyle Lowry in 2016 - can you say "watered down"??

NBA.com's statistics are not entirely accurate!

I already shut this copy/paste down in the original thread you made about it!

Reggie and Larry were getting even MORE open shots than players today since defenses regularly neglected the three point line in the 80s and 90s!

:hammerhead:

TheOne
07-16-2016, 10:01 PM
He got mental issue rather than shooting technique issue. The areas he should work on are footwork and pump fake. If he could master these as MJ, he could literally do layups whole game.

Hoopz2332
07-16-2016, 10:10 PM
lebron did improve his jumper in Mimai but his back started bothering him by the time he came back to the cavs and it made his shot flat




He crushed the rest of the league in PER last season with a 31.7, just shy of his career high. He shot a ridiculous 56.5 percent from the field. He scored more points in the paint per game than anybody else in the league. He dished out more assists than most point guards. He registered a higher rebound rate than Marc Gasol and Robin Lopez. Defensively, he's tall, quick and strong enough to guard just about anyone in the league, and he almost did.

And if all that wasn't enough, consider this: He now wields one of the most potent jumpers in the league. Only Jose Calderon averaged more points per spot-up play than James, according to Synergy Sports.

Most efficient spot-up players, 2012-13 regular season(Min. 100 plays)

Player Plays Points PPP

Jose Calderon 187 281 1.50

LeBron James 143 195 1.36

Kyle Korver 224 301 1.34

Steve Nash 114 153 1.32

Stephen Curry 226 294 1.30


James' name pops up near the top of all the jump-shot leaderboards for last season. And that includes the unguarded catch-and-shoot category, in which he effectively shot 73.1 percent once you account for the added value of 3s. Only five players were more lethal with open shots. While he couldn't find his shot in the Finals until the very end, he ended up converting 37.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason, which is well above average. (For perspective, Kevin Durant shot 31.3 percent from deep in the playoffs.)



http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1275853

and


http://i.imgur.com/bOzrQt2.png



https://hoopchalkdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/why-can-lebron-james-shoot-three-pointers-all-of-a-sudden/

Cone
07-17-2016, 12:48 AM
Scariest question in NBA history:

Can LeBron James get better?

Yes he can, folks. Yes. He. Can.

Rockets(T-mac)
07-17-2016, 01:50 AM
Get better at shooting later in your career is one thing, but changing your shooting mechanics? I think it might be a bit late for that. It'll be hard to make a move you've been doing for years, then just change the shoot form at the end of the move. i would think you'd eventually revert to your old form.

It's possible obviously, but the man has had 13 years to improve his shooting, it got better for a bit, but some how reverted. Every great player had some weakness, this happens to be Lebron's.

FashionIssues
07-17-2016, 01:58 AM
by changing shooting form? leave the shooting up to your team mates. too late for being that guy. you are not a shooter.

Meticode
07-17-2016, 04:37 AM
Don't know why he's getting flack for working on his shooting. Being able to knock down jumpers at least at a respectable clip is a major reason why the Cavs won the championship because the Warriors were giving him that shot and he was making it. If I remember correctly the Warriors were winning 87-86 and LeBron hit a big three to close that lead in Game 7.

https://youtu.be/xMErOxS6Pw0?t=5521

People are acting like if he works on his shooting he's totally changing his play-style. That's not the case. He's just trying to be able to knock down a jumper if the defensive gives it to him.

Flower_
07-17-2016, 05:10 AM
LeBron can't shot and still is on the same level as Jordan.

Just imagine LeBron with a shot... game over.