How come Kobe only won 1 MVP?

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[BigTicket]

Because he only had one MVP worthy season.

[Phenith]

Because he only had one MVP worthy season.

Beat me to it. :lol

And seriously, he always had peers pushing him for it, he was always near the top of the league, but he had a real time breaking through. His attitude and problems with his team and team mates probably hurt him a lot when it came to voting too.

He could have won 1 or 2 more, but he also could have none. He will most likely be remembered as a scorer, not an all around player.

[rmt]

A lot of things are just timing and luck. Do I think that Kawhi deserves 2 DPOYs and Duncan none? No, but it is what it is.

[ScalsFan21]

Beat me to it. :lol

And seriously, he always had peers pushing him for it, he was always near the top of the league, but he had a real time breaking through. His attitude and problems with his team and team mates probably hurt him a lot when it came to voting too.

He could have won 1 or 2 more, but he also could have none. He will most likely be remembered as a scorer, not an all around player.

Exactly. Great scorer, great longevity, great work ethic. His peak was incredible too, but generally never allowed him to distance himself from his peers at the top of the league in many (if any) single seasons.

[ScalsFan21]

A lot of things are just timing and luck. Do I think that Kawhi deserves 2 DPOYs and Duncan none? No, but it is what it is.

It's tough because I think Duncan (and LeBron both) could/should have won one, but yet I can't point to a single season where either one was definitively robbed of being DPOY. It's surprising that he never got one with how big man-friendly the award has been historically, but when you play through the careers of guys like Big Ben and Mutombo I guess that happens.

The fact that Timmy was fringe DPOY level as a two-way god for so long is incredible in its own right, as the guys he was losing to every year usually were defensive specialists.

[Mr Feeny]

Because he only had one MVP worthy season.That's pretty much the thread, done:lol
So simply stated.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Because its a best player on the best regular season team award.

Kobe doesnt care about the regular and didnt play on stacked teams that racked up tons of meaningless regular season wins. :confusedshrug:

[Mr Feeny]

Because its a best player on the best regular season team award.

Kobe doesnt care about the regular and didnt play on stacked teams that racked up tons of meaningless regular season wins. :confusedshrug:sure he did :lebronamazed:

He was just never anywhere near good enough to win multiple mvps like the Lebron's of the world :lol

[Yao Ming's Foot]

sure he did :lebronamazed:

He was just never anywhere near good enough to win multiple mvps like the Lebron's of the world :lol

and Shaq was not as good as Steve Nash right? :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

Because its a best player on the best regular season team award.

Kobe doesnt care about the regular and didnt play on stacked teams that racked up tons of meaningless regular season wins. :confusedshrug:
What? Kobe definitely was on stacked team he just individually wasn't good enough to win it.

And all of Kobe's greatest moments are from the regular season, it's pretty obvious he cares:oldlol:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

What? Kobe definitely was on stacked team he just individually wasn't good enough to win it.

And all of Kobe's greatest moments are from the regular season, it's pretty obvious he cares:oldlol:

Same with Shaq right? :oldlol:

Steve Nash passed the multiple MVP award mantle to Lebron who passed it to Curry.

Great regular season players on stacked teams. :confusedshrug:

[nathanjizzle]

because kobes career started right after the shooting guard era ended and the big man era began. then when that ended the point guard era started. look at 2 of the best shooting guards in the last 15 years, d wade and kobe. both have 8 championships together, thats more than 50%, but between both of them, only 1 MVP. its all about timing in public perception. its not kobes fault he had to follow up the jordan era. its not a coincidence nash, rose, curry all won mvps in the point guard era.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He could have won 1 or 2 more, but he also could have none. He will most likely be remembered as a scorer, not an all around player.
Probably even if it isn't true. See KD is a one dimensional player, and while near Kobe's level as a scorer or roughly equal ... Isn't close to the all around player Kobe was.

While he wasn't near the peak levels of a defender on a consistent basis as say Jordan, whom he most emulated, he was a very good defender for a number of seasons.

He'll always go down in history as kid brother. Cover band MJ. Jordan Lite.

He was as dimensional as Jordan, just not to the same consistent level in all categories. Including scoring, which is his best attribute. And for my money, the best ISO one on one player since Mike. And probably the only one who can rival him in that regard.

Taking away their two worst statistical seasons, Kobe as a teenager off the bench in '97 and '98. And Yoda MJ on the Wizards as a 39 and 40 year old ... You're looking at:

28 ppg 5 apg 5 rpg w/ very good defense

vs

32 ppg 6 apg 6 rpg w/ all time great defense

The difference is both small, yet substantial at the same time if you watched both in context.

But honestly from 2001 - 2010, Kobe's prime years, either all time great teammate dominance or high individual level of competition through out the league among superstars kept more of that MVP awards out of his hands.

For my money he was easily the best in the game from 2006 to 2008. With arguments in 2003, 2009, and 2010. He should've had 2x to 3x MVPs in that span from 06 to 08.

But he was battling a bad rep following the rape case and destruction of the championship Lakers, viewed as selfish and agenda drive , while coinciding with the rise of the golden boy selfless leader in Steve Nash.

Sucks for Kobe, but his resume got a boost from rings with Shaq early in his career. So in the overall scheme of things, it's fair I guess.

[Mr Feeny]

What? Kobe definitely was on stacked team he just individually wasn't good enough to win it.

And all of Kobe's greatest moments are from the regular season, it's pretty obvious he cares:oldlol:Shaq had the 3rd highest PER in nba history. He rested during the season and dominated in the finals.

In the finals, your hero is a 41% shooter and and a 25% game 7 scorer. He's a perennial choker.
Don't insult Shaq or any top 10 player by comparing a scrub to them:lol

[imdaman99]

Shaq had the 3rd highest PER in nba history. He rested during the season and dominated in the finals.

In the finals, your hero is a 41% shooter and and a 25% game 7 scorer. He's a perennial choker.
Don't insult Shaq or any top 10 player by comparing a scrub to them:lol
Shaq was more important in beating the Pacers, Nets, and 76ers while Kobe was more important beating the Spurs. I wonder which was the tougher thing to do :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Shaq was more important in beating the Pacers, Nets, and 76ers while Kobe was more important beating the Spurs. I wonder which was the tougher thing to do :lol

You're such a troll :facepalm

[Mr. Jabbar]

3/8

#strive4greatness

[Bankaii]

Same with Shaq right? :oldlol:

Steve Nash passed the multiple MVP award mantle to Lebron who passed it to Curry.

Great regular season players on stacked teams. :confusedshrug:
Shaq took the regular season off, he even admitted it himself.

And tell me more about the 09/10 Cavs being more stacked than the 09/10 Lakers. Cut the bs excuses.

You Kobetards are hilarious:oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Better question would be: Why did Kobe even win 1 MVP?

Because it was basically an award for his career up to that point.

CP3 clearly was the MVP in 2008.

[tpols]

main reason is timing .. playing w/ shaq it's very hard to get an MVP (both ways) because it usually goes to one man army types .. or best player on best team, which was impossible for Kobe at his peak because he had all time bad support.



Shaq was more important in beating the Pacers, Nets, and 76ers while Kobe was more important beating the Spurs. I wonder which was the tougher thing to do :lol


Shaq beat up on undersized frontcourts w/ weak paints aka bottom feeder east teams that mightve been second round teams out west .. while Kobe blew his load on the tougher comp .. and led the assault against the Western giants .. and especially in crunchtime where he led league in playoff 4th Q ppg in 01 and 02.

[ArbitraryWater]

and the fact that Kobe mainly just did not play at MVP level in 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2004 :lol That probably had something to do with it as well... that he just wasnt that good.

[West-Side]

His best years were 01' - 09'.
01' - 04' - because he played with Shaq.
05' - injury riddled year
06 - 07' - garbage team

In 08' when he finally had a good team around him as #1 option, he already almost had as many minutes played as Jordan's entire career.

He was 30 entering his 12th year.
Majority of his prime years were similar to Jordan's early years. Just playing on bad teams and playing with the most dominant player from 01' - 04'.

[Keno]

Because its a best player on the best regular season team award.

Kobe doesnt care about the regular and didnt play on stacked teams that racked up tons of meaningless regular season wins. :confusedshrug:

you say kobe doesn't care about the regular season, but his numbers don't get any better in the playoffs - especially the finals. soooooo, when does kobe ever care about basketball? never? he's trash.

[Chokefree]

you say kobe doesn't care about the regular season, but his numbers don't get any better in the playoffs - especially the finals. soooooo, when does kobe ever care about basketball? never? he's trash.
but yet you fakkits keep bringing him up making him relevant.....I don't get you lebronze stans.....get over it, he will never make it to kobe's level.....got saved by kyrie lol

[Keno]

but yet you fakkits keep bringing him up making him relevant.....I don't get you lebronze stans.....get over it, he will never make it to kobe's level.....got saved by kyrie lol

because kobetards, like yourself, keep spewing this bullshit that he's top 5 all time. real basketball fans gotta put you retards in your place. reality is, he's barely top 10, top 12 at best.